Gardening Grandma
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jul 2, 2011 12:11:56 GMT -5
It was Geo HW Bush who sneered "liberal" as an insult. But I'm still inspired by the words of JFK: A Liberal Definition by John F. Kennedy: www.liberalparty.org/JFKLPAcceptance.html For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.
I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind
Our responsibility is not discharged by announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons that liberalism is our best and only hope in the world today. For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies.
Our liberalism has its roots in our diverse origins. Most of us are descended from that segment of the American population which was once called an immigrant minority. Today, along with our children and grandchildren, we do not feel minor. We feel proud of our origins and we are not second to any group in our sense of national purpose
Many of these same immigrant families produced the pioneers and builders of the American labor movement. They are the men who sweated in our shops, who struggled to create a union, and who were driven by longing for education for their children and for the children's development. They went to night schools; they built their own future, their union's future, and their country's future, brick by brick, block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, and now in their children's time, suburb by suburb.
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Agatha
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Post by Agatha on Jul 2, 2011 13:35:35 GMT -5
Go. . .Go, grandma! [/b]
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2011 13:58:31 GMT -5
I gave you some Karma too GG
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Gardening Grandma
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jul 2, 2011 14:49:39 GMT -5
Horato, Do you REALLY believe that "conservative" politicans don't spend tax dollars? I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 2, 2011 14:51:56 GMT -5
Pacific Northwest, mmm, enough said. I have family in that area as well. I totally understand where you are coming from now.
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Firebird
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Post by Firebird on Jul 6, 2011 15:19:49 GMT -5
So, ah, staying well out of the political discussion... did Dark and Loop leave officially? I hope not :-(
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Firebird
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Post by Firebird on Jul 6, 2011 15:46:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw that. I was just wondering if they'd posted since Dark's last one on this thread to say they're taking a break or something, or if it was just assumed since their accounts are gone?
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ontrack
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Post by ontrack on Jul 6, 2011 15:46:50 GMT -5
Yes, I would like to point out that it was under our illustrious 43rd president (George W. Bush) that our deficit exploded, we got mired in 2 wars we couldn't pay for, and the worst recession since the great depression started. So please quit it with the "liberals are ruining the country" garbage.
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Firebird
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Post by Firebird on Jul 6, 2011 15:59:40 GMT -5
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ontrack
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Post by ontrack on Jul 6, 2011 16:02:15 GMT -5
Dark Honor was writing some posts as a guest for a little while after he closed his account, but I haven't seen him since last week sometime.
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Wisconsin Beth
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 7, 2011 14:46:34 GMT -5
Firebird, to my knowledge, no one has heard anything from them.... Did anyone have them on FB or email? I'd like to know they're ok.
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Cookies Galore
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jul 7, 2011 18:02:56 GMT -5
Firebird, to my knowledge, no one has heard anything from them.... Did anyone have them on FB or email? I'd like to know they're ok. I can contact loop.
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Post by pig on Jul 8, 2011 7:20:29 GMT -5
The best part of this thread is pg 1 where Moon totally tears Rob a new ass LOL
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