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Post by ripvanwinkle on May 16, 2023 20:21:31 GMT -5
I saw this on the news yesterday. I''m sure you all did also. Does this mean the Hunter probe is being swept under the rug? This smells like a coverup to me.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 16, 2023 20:41:32 GMT -5
the justice department is not commenting, and i am not inclined to comment, other than the following.
this is what the attorney said:
One of the attorneys, Mark Lytle, met May 5 with members of the House Ways and Means and Senate Finance Committees to discuss what the whistleblower could tell investigators and how he could do so without running afoul of taxpayer privacy laws. Lytle wrote in an April letter to Congress that the unnamed IRS criminal supervisory special agent could shed light on how the years-long, high-profile investigation had been hindered by "preferential treatment and politics."
that statement is highly subjective, and the kind of thing we would expect from an attorney protecting his client. but it could be something as simple as the client unable to provide actionable accusations, and being partisan himself.
but then again, i have been following this case for years and never really seen much to it. so, yes, i am extremely biased.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 16, 2023 20:42:01 GMT -5
Why do you care about hunter Biden m. He is a private citizen. And did you care this much about the corrupt trump gods, and the main criminal in chief, Donald himself.
Seems like Biden took a page out of trump and the Republican playbook. I’ll care about Biden when you admit trump should be in jail over 1/6
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Post by djAdvocate on May 16, 2023 20:42:40 GMT -5
PS- i am confused why this matter was even under the purview of the IRS. can someone shed light on that, please?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 16, 2023 21:44:19 GMT -5
PS- i am confused why this matter was even under the purview of the IRS. can someone shed light on that, please? I'm sure ripvanwinkle has been following this for case for years. He should be able to give you great detail about the case.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on May 16, 2023 23:58:57 GMT -5
Why do you care about hunter Biden m. He is a private citizen. And did you care this much about the corrupt trump gods, and the main criminal in chief, Donald himself. Seems like Biden took a page out of trump and the Republican playbook. I’ll care about Biden when you admit trump should be in jail over 1/6 Oh come on. They found him not guilty. You sound like my ex wife. 25yrs ago we were downtown at a New Years Eve party and at midnight we kissed and hugged and I turned and then drunk 25ish lady in a satin dress planted a big kiss on me. Wife got mad at me and for yrs after it would come up. Build a bridge and get over it.
Hmmm...Where does he get his money? Foreign countries?? Was he a unregistered lobbyist for foreign countries? Sounds like a audit is in order. Find out where all the money came from and where did it go. Maybe to "The big guy"??
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2023 0:11:57 GMT -5
Why do you care about hunter Biden m. He is a private citizen. And did you care this much about the corrupt trump gods, and the main criminal in chief, Donald himself. Seems like Biden took a page out of trump and the Republican playbook. I’ll care about Biden when you admit trump should be in jail over 1/6 Oh come on. They found him not guilty. what? no. the House convicts. the Senate sentences.he was found guilty, rip. but i think that congress is incapable of prosecuting in an nonprejudicial way. so, i prefer that he has a real civilian trial. which, i think, is coming. hopefully i don't sound like your ex-wife.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2023 0:14:49 GMT -5
Hmmm...Where does he get his money? Foreign countries?? Was he a unregistered lobbyist for foreign countries? Sounds like a audit is in order. Find out where all the money came from and where did it go. Maybe to "The big guy"??
certainly not from Biden. so, next question: who is responsible for that? i think Hunter Biden is responsible for that. i don't want my adult son blaming ME for his woes. you probably don't want your adult children blaming YOU for theirs. they are adults. they make their own decisions. don't blame Biden The Elder for the indiscretions of the son. is there ANYTHING about Joe Biden that seems crooked to you? really? i would be absolutely shocked to find out he even had an unpaid parking ticket.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2023 0:16:21 GMT -5
PS- i have no problem with investigating Hunter Biden. i have a huge problem with investigating Joe Biden. leave the man alone, unless you have probable cause.
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2023 3:10:52 GMT -5
Correct. And I believe his taxes were audited and he had to pay the government money. From what I remember his tax evasions were nowhere near the scale of DJT. And he has paid or done a payment plan. So for now a non story unless I guess you listen and watch Faux news. They have to fill the airtime with something if they are avoiding reporting on Trump's legal cases, Rudy's legal cases, Lindell being Lindell, etc.
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2023 3:19:13 GMT -5
FWIW I think the opinion of the guy in the OP's URL is incorrect, probably intentionally so. Whistleblower's jobs are protected. They are not however afforded any protection for continuing to investigate whatever target they are bringing to light. They would be considered biased so I thought standard operating procedure is removing them from any official ongoing investigation, handing that off, while protecting them from retaliation and protecting their job. Cops, investigators and IRS agents get reassigned cases all the time. That's normal. That's expected. The below is not true. From the OP's URL- Tom Devine, a lawyer who has represented thousands of whistleblowers during the last 40 years, said it would violate the federal Whistleblower Protection Act if the agent were to be removed from the investigation because of his disclosures.
"That's considered a significant change in duties and working conditions to remove you from a case, and if it's because of your whistleblowing, that would make it a violation of the law," said Devine, who is the legal director for the nonprofit Government Accountability Project, a whistleblower protection and advocacy organization.
The bolded is false and a talking point. Devine is not a unbiased advocate. His nonprofit organization is likely funded by GOP dollars.
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Why do you care about hunter Biden m. He is a private citizen. And did you care this much about the corrupt trump gods, and the main criminal in chief, Donald himself. Seems like Biden took a page out of trump and the Republican playbook. I’ll care about Biden when you admit trump should be in jail over 1/6 Oh come on. They found him not guilty. You sound like my ex wife. 25yrs ago we were downtown at a New Years Eve party and at midnight we kissed and hugged and I turned and then drunk 25ish lady in a satin dress planted a big kiss on me. Wife got mad at me and for yrs after it would come up. Build a bridge and get over it.
Hmmm...Where does he get his money? Foreign countries?? Was he a unregistered lobbyist for foreign countries? Sounds like a audit is in order. Find out where all the money came from and where did it go. Maybe to "The big guy"??
Yes, really. Trump was and remains a clear and present danger to the country. He has admitted to multiple felonies, and refuses to accept he lost the 2020 election, and millions of Americans believed him. He incited a riot over that exact point. The trump children grift at a level few have achieved, and were and remain part of trumps team. Hunter bidrn is a private citizen, and has no part of the administration Republicans are telling us how awful the country is right now. This is the most important issue to focus on? The hypocrisy is stunning.
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2023 7:18:35 GMT -5
Oh come on. They found him not guilty. You sound like my ex wife. 25yrs ago we were downtown at a New Years Eve party and at midnight we kissed and hugged and I turned and then drunk 25ish lady in a satin dress planted a big kiss on me. Wife got mad at me and for yrs after it would come up. Build a bridge and get over it.
Hmmm...Where does he get his money? Foreign countries?? Was he a unregistered lobbyist for foreign countries? Sounds like a audit is in order. Find out where all the money came from and where did it go. Maybe to "The big guy"??
Yes, really. Trump was and remains a clear and present danger to the country. He has admitted to multiple felonies, and refuses to accept he lost the 2020 election, and millions of Americans believed him. He incited a riot over that exact point. The trump children grift at a level few have achieved, and were and remain part of trumps team. Hunter bidrn is a private citizen, and has no part of the administration Republicans are telling us how awful the country is right now. This is the most important issue to focus on? The hypocrisy is stunning. Hunter Biden offenses compared to Trump are like a molehill is to the Alps And as I predicted would happen, Hillary's mistakes with classified info pale to the sweeping mistakes made by Trump in Mar Lago and elsewhere when it came to classified info. Don't think some Trumpers are ever going to pull that log out of their eye. They remain fixated on any perceived sliver in a non Trumper's eye. And usually that's not enough so they have to write their own QAnon fantasy fiction where they are the good guys. Wouldn't it just be simpler and saner to become good people?
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Why do you care about hunter Biden m. He is a private citizen. And did you care this much about the corrupt trump gods, and the main criminal in chief, Donald himself. Seems like Biden took a page out of trump and the Republican playbook. I’ll care about Biden when you admit trump should be in jail over 1/6 Oh come on. They found him not guilty. You sound like my ex wife. 25yrs ago we were downtown at a New Years Eve party and at midnight we kissed and hugged and I turned and then drunk 25ish lady in a satin dress planted a big kiss on me. Wife got mad at me and for yrs after it would come up. Build a bridge and get over it.
Hmmm...Where does he get his money? Foreign countries?? Was he a unregistered lobbyist for foreign countries? Sounds like a audit is in order. Find out where all the money came from and where did it go. Maybe to "The big guy"??
You and those drugged and drunk women again.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 17, 2023 10:17:46 GMT -5
Oh come on. They found him not guilty. You sound like my ex wife. 25yrs ago we were downtown at a New Years Eve party and at midnight we kissed and hugged and I turned and then drunk 25ish lady in a satin dress planted a big kiss on me. Wife got mad at me and for yrs after it would come up. Build a bridge and get over it.
Hmmm...Where does he get his money? Foreign countries?? Was he a unregistered lobbyist for foreign countries? Sounds like a audit is in order. Find out where all the money came from and where did it go. Maybe to "The big guy"??
Yes, really. Trump was and remains a clear and present danger to the country. He has admitted to multiple felonies, and refuses to accept he lost the 2020 election, and millions of Americans believed him. He incited a riot over that exact point. The trump children grift at a level few have achieved, and were and remain part of trumps team. Hunter bidrn is a private citizen, and has no part of the administration Republicans are telling us how awful the country is right now. This is the most important issue to focus on? The hypocrisy is stunning. And so trump's 2020 election loss begins again. ‘ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024!’ Trump Pivots from Stolen 2020 Election Claims — to Suggesting 2024 Election is Being RiggedFormer President Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to claim a rigged 2024 election by accusing the DOJ of “ELECTION INTERFERENCE.” In a Wednesday morning all-caps post to Truth Social, Trump railed against the DOJ over the various investigations into his actions and the criminal indictment against him in New York. “I WAS BEING FRAMED BY THE FBI AND THE DOJ,” Trump wrote. NOW IT CONTINUES WITH THE BOXES HOAX, THE ‘PERFECT’ PHONE CALL IN ATLANTA, THE MANHATTAN D.A., AND THE NEW YORK STATE A.G. SCAM. WHAT A GROUP, BUT ALL REPORT TO THE DOJ IN WASHINGTON. IT’S JAMES COMEY AND THE SLEAZEBAGS ALL OVER AGAIN.” Trump went on to argue that the actions of the various investigators and prosecutors constitute “ELECTION INTERFERENCE” and went on to denounce those responsible as “CHEATING LOWLIFES.” “THEY ARE PLAYING ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024 THROUGH ILLEGAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGAINST REPUBLICANS, IN PARTICULAR YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT, ME,” Trump wrote. “THESE ARE CHEATING LOWLIFES, BUT WE WILL WIN. OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL!” With his post, the former president is following up on claims he first made hours after being indicted. In a speech from his Mar-a-Lago estate on April 4, Trump argued the U.S. justice system is being weaponized for political purposes. “Our justice system has become lawless,” Trump said. “They’re using it now, in addition to everything else, to win elections. ‘ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024!’ Trump Pivots from Stolen 2020 Election Claims — to Suggesting 2024 Election is Being Rigged
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2023 10:19:49 GMT -5
Yes, really. Trump was and remains a clear and present danger to the country. He has admitted to multiple felonies, and refuses to accept he lost the 2020 election, and millions of Americans believed him. He incited a riot over that exact point. The trump children grift at a level few have achieved, and were and remain part of trumps team. Hunter bidrn is a private citizen, and has no part of the administration Republicans are telling us how awful the country is right now. This is the most important issue to focus on? The hypocrisy is stunning. And so trump's 2020 election loss begins again. ‘ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024!’ Trump Pivots from Stolen 2020 Election Claims — to Suggesting 2024 Election is Being RiggedFormer President Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to claim a rigged 2024 election by accusing the DOJ of “ELECTION INTERFERENCE.” In a Wednesday morning all-caps post to Truth Social, Trump railed against the DOJ over the various investigations into his actions and the criminal indictment against him in New York. “I WAS BEING FRAMED BY THE FBI AND THE DOJ,” Trump wrote. NOW IT CONTINUES WITH THE BOXES HOAX, THE ‘PERFECT’ PHONE CALL IN ATLANTA, THE MANHATTAN D.A., AND THE NEW YORK STATE A.G. SCAM. WHAT A GROUP, BUT ALL REPORT TO THE DOJ IN WASHINGTON. IT’S JAMES COMEY AND THE SLEAZEBAGS ALL OVER AGAIN.” Trump went on to argue that the actions of the various investigators and prosecutors constitute “ELECTION INTERFERENCE” and went on to denounce those responsible as “CHEATING LOWLIFES.” “THEY ARE PLAYING ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024 THROUGH ILLEGAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGAINST REPUBLICANS, IN PARTICULAR YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT, ME,” Trump wrote. “THESE ARE CHEATING LOWLIFES, BUT WE WILL WIN. OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL!” With his post, the former president is following up on claims he first made hours after being indicted. In a speech from his Mar-a-Lago estate on April 4, Trump argued the U.S. justice system is being weaponized for political purposes. “Our justice system has become lawless,” Trump said. “They’re using it now, in addition to everything else, to win elections. ‘ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024!’ Trump Pivots from Stolen 2020 Election Claims — to Suggesting 2024 Election is Being RiggedSo when is a brave reporter or three going to ask how he is rigging it, and why did he need to start so early?
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2023 10:22:55 GMT -5
I suppose its good he keeps reminding people of his greatest scandals? I really need to start selling against this silliness. I could make a fortune. Now to find an errant Ipad and learn how to design printable jpegs or whatever else they use.
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And so trump's 2020 election loss begins again. ‘ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024!’ Trump Pivots from Stolen 2020 Election Claims — to Suggesting 2024 Election is Being RiggedFormer President Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to claim a rigged 2024 election by accusing the DOJ of “ELECTION INTERFERENCE.” In a Wednesday morning all-caps post to Truth Social, Trump railed against the DOJ over the various investigations into his actions and the criminal indictment against him in New York. “I WAS BEING FRAMED BY THE FBI AND THE DOJ,” Trump wrote. NOW IT CONTINUES WITH THE BOXES HOAX, THE ‘PERFECT’ PHONE CALL IN ATLANTA, THE MANHATTAN D.A., AND THE NEW YORK STATE A.G. SCAM. WHAT A GROUP, BUT ALL REPORT TO THE DOJ IN WASHINGTON. IT’S JAMES COMEY AND THE SLEAZEBAGS ALL OVER AGAIN.” Trump went on to argue that the actions of the various investigators and prosecutors constitute “ELECTION INTERFERENCE” and went on to denounce those responsible as “CHEATING LOWLIFES.” “THEY ARE PLAYING ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024 THROUGH ILLEGAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGAINST REPUBLICANS, IN PARTICULAR YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT, ME,” Trump wrote. “THESE ARE CHEATING LOWLIFES, BUT WE WILL WIN. OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL!” With his post, the former president is following up on claims he first made hours after being indicted. In a speech from his Mar-a-Lago estate on April 4, Trump argued the U.S. justice system is being weaponized for political purposes. “Our justice system has become lawless,” Trump said. “They’re using it now, in addition to everything else, to win elections. ‘ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN 2024!’ Trump Pivots from Stolen 2020 Election Claims — to Suggesting 2024 Election is Being RiggedSo when is a brave reporter or three going to ask how he is rigging it, and why did he need to start so early? Trump is starting early with his lies after lies because without lying, he would have even a lesser chance of being reelected.
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Hmmm...Where does he get his money? Foreign countries?? Was he an unregistered lobbyist for foreign countries? Sounds like an audit is in order. Find out where all the money came from and where did it go. Maybe to "The big guy"??
certainly not from Biden. so, next question: who is responsible for that? i think Hunter Biden is responsible for that. i don't want my adult son blaming ME for his woes. you probably don't want your adult children blaming YOU for theirs. they are adults. they make their own decisions. don't blame Biden The Elder for the indiscretions of the son. is there ANYTHING about Joe Biden that seems crooked to you? really? i would be absolutely shocked to find out he even had an unpaid parking ticket. GOP is desperate to paint this as a Biden family crime syndicate. Which is laughable when you consider all the Trump family grifting, fake business and tax fraud schemes that have been going on since grandpa Trump first got into rental property. Sure Hunter was a drug addict and bad dad and probably a tax cheat- but he never held elected office. And just because Biden has a son who was a screw up doesn’t mean Biden is himself some kind of mob boss of a criminal syndicate. Lately there’s been a lot of moaning about Biden earning a lot of money on the side while a politician- what politician doesn’t? At least he didn’t earn money making foreign nationals pay crazy high prices for floors of hotel rooms at his DC hotel. Or by overcharging SS for rooms and golf carts at Trumps cheesy golf clubs.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2023 14:22:52 GMT -5
Wizard Of Oz. Curtain Scene.
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Correct. And I believe his taxes were audited and he had to pay the government money. From what I remember his tax evasions were nowhere near the scale of DJT. And he has paid or done a payment plan. So for now a non story unless I guess you listen and watch Faux news. They have to fill the airtime with something if they are avoiding reporting on Trump's legal cases, Rudy's legal cases, Lindell being Lindell, etc. ok. well i can KINDA see the point here. but many of these indescretions predate the Biden presidency. so, what are we really talking about here? Hunter is a fuckup? fine. he is a fuckup. so was Billy Carter. so were the Bush Twins. who cares?
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2023 14:57:13 GMT -5
certainly not from Biden. so, next question: who is responsible for that? i think Hunter Biden is responsible for that. i don't want my adult son blaming ME for his woes. you probably don't want your adult children blaming YOU for theirs. they are adults. they make their own decisions. don't blame Biden The Elder for the indiscretions of the son. is there ANYTHING about Joe Biden that seems crooked to you? really? i would be absolutely shocked to find out he even had an unpaid parking ticket. GOP is desperate to paint this as a Biden family crime syndicate. Which is laughable when you consider all the Trump family grifting, fake business and tax fraud schemes that have been going on since grandpa Trump first got into rental property. Sure Hunter was a drug addict and bad dad and probably a tax cheat- but he never held elected office. And just because Biden has a son who was a screw up doesn’t mean Biden is himself some kind of mob boss of a criminal syndicate. Lately there’s been a lot of moaning about Biden earning a lot of money on the side while a politician- what politician doesn’t? At least he didn’t earn money making foreign nationals pay crazy high prices for floors of hotel rooms at his DC hotel. Or by overcharging SS for rooms and golf carts at Trumps cheesy golf clubs. Has Biden the President earned anything near what Trump did while in office? Did he buy a DC landmark and make people go there and spend money to curry favor? Is he hosting dinners and golf tourneys wherever he lives? I know the answer is no. This crap only works because the RW media has intentionally done a media blackout on all Trump's scandals etc. They are complicit in propping up a bad President. Maybe I should write some laws while I can't sleep, send them to my lawmakers, and maybe they can turn them into something useful that might get passed. (So nice to hear Chicago on the radio now. )
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2023 15:22:40 GMT -5
if they get started on investigating Hunter, Trump can keep his bed warm waiting for him.
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Post by billisonboard on May 17, 2023 18:33:58 GMT -5
Correct. And I believe his taxes were audited and he had to pay the government money. From what I remember his tax evasions were nowhere near the scale of DJT. And he has paid or done a payment plan. So for now a non story unless I guess you listen and watch Faux news. They have to fill the airtime with something if they are avoiding reporting on Trump's legal cases, Rudy's legal cases, Lindell being Lindell, etc. ok. well i can KINDA see the point here. but many of these indescretions predate the Biden presidency. so, what are we really talking about here? Hunter is a fuckup? fine. he is a fuckup. so was Billy Carter. so were the Bush Twins. who cares? What I see is an individual who has a history of not paying taxes as required and thus has earned the heightened attention of the IRS. (He just so happens to be the son of the POTUS.)
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2023 18:37:17 GMT -5
www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/federal-prosecutors-hunter-biden-taxes-gun-charge-rcna80692April 20, 2023, 6:36 PM EDT By Sarah Fitzpatrick, Tom Winter, Ken Dilanian and Michael Kosnar Federal prosecutors have considered charging Hunter Biden with three tax crimes and a charge related to a gun purchase, said two sources familiar with the matter. The possible charges are two misdemeanor counts for failure to file taxes, a single felony count of tax evasion related to a business expense for one year of taxes, and the gun charge, also a potential felony. Two senior law enforcement sources told NBC News about "growing frustration" inside the FBI because investigators finished the bulk of their work on the case about a year ago. A senior law enforcement source said the IRS finished its investigation more than a year ago.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2023 19:05:34 GMT -5
given the nature of the crimes, according to that article, why would the FBI be interested in Hunter Biden?
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Post by happyhoix on May 17, 2023 20:19:40 GMT -5
Saw an article today where some scandalized RW talking heads were screaming about Biden’s family making money from foreign sources. Almost treasonous!
Unless your name is Kushner and some nice Saudis give you a shit ton of money so you can start your own company just after your FIL finally leaves the Oval Office- then it’s just smart business.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 18, 2023 0:27:27 GMT -5
Saw an article today where some scandalized RW talking heads were screaming about Biden’s family making money from foreign sources. Almost treasonous! Unless your name is Kushner and some nice Saudis give you a shit ton of money so you can start your own company just after your FIL finally leaves the Oval Office- then it’s just smart business. the human family makes money off foreign sources, too. we are all related. how dumb do we want this argument to get? question: is it against the law for Ivanka, Hunter, or any other number of kids of politicians to make money from foreign sources? because, if so, we have a lot of arresting to do.
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2023 0:44:55 GMT -5
Saw an article today where some scandalized RW talking heads were screaming about Biden’s family making money from foreign sources. Almost treasonous! Unless your name is Kushner and some nice Saudis give you a shit ton of money so you can start your own company just after your FIL finally leaves the Oval Office- then it’s just smart business. That was what a 2 Billion hedge fund started with some Saudi's because Kushner had developed a relationship with them through his work as a WH advisor, correct? That amount is way in excess of anything Hunter did with that NGO - Non governmental organization.
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