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Post by jelloshots4all on Jan 11, 2020 0:45:09 GMT -5
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Post by tbop77 on Jan 11, 2020 8:08:33 GMT -5
Because I have come to believe our country is done. To elect someone who cares so little about the constitution proves it. Below sums it up from 2016 and hasn't changed. It would be one thing if Trump merely displayed a lack of knowledge of the Constitution. Ignorance can be corrected. However, the problem is not just that Trump is ignorant of the Constitution; it’s that he doesn’t care. His political philosophy, to the extent that he has one, is the demagoguery that the Founders designed the Constitution to protect us against. www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 11, 2020 9:42:34 GMT -5
When Trump is re-elected where are "youall" going to move to??
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Post by tbop77 on Jan 11, 2020 10:04:37 GMT -5
When Trump is re=elected where are "youall" going to move to?? We'll all live in the United States Empire with King Trump, of course! That is after the Party of Trump stomps the constitution in the ground!
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Post by ednkris on Jan 11, 2020 14:50:27 GMT -5
When Trump is re=elected where are "youall" going to move to?? We'll all live in the United States Empire with King Trump, of course! That is after the Party of Trump stomps the constitution in the ground! Like Obama knew anything about it.
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Post by swamp on Jan 11, 2020 14:54:48 GMT -5
We'll all live in the United States Empire with King Trump, of course! That is after the Party of Trump stomps the constitution in the ground! Like Obama knew anything about it. Considering he was a professor of Constitutional Law, I'd say he was pretty well versed in it.
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Post by dondub on Jan 11, 2020 16:07:42 GMT -5
An obviously much deeper understanding than certain posters. But that darn guy kept being Black, so his accomplishments MUST be trashed at every turn.
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Post by tbop77 on Jan 11, 2020 16:13:55 GMT -5
We'll all live in the United States Empire with King Trump, of course! That is after the Party of Trump stomps the constitution in the ground! Like Obama knew anything about it. Seek help with your Trump Derangement Syndrome to try and ease the voices of Hillary and President Obama that live in your head.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 11, 2020 21:35:36 GMT -5
We'll all live in the United States Empire with King Trump, of course! That is after the Party of Trump stomps the constitution in the ground! Like Obama knew anything about it. Lol! Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).[73] During this time he taught courses in due process and equal protection, voting rights, and racism and law. -wiki This is why Trump loves the uneducated. They'll swallow anything the pathological liar dishes out. Obama taught Constitutional Law at Harvard University. Trump ran a phony university to scam people out of their money. Any questions?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 11, 2020 21:48:40 GMT -5
When Trump is re-elected where are "youall" going to move to?? Baltimore. That'll show him! Hey
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Post by dezii on Jan 12, 2020 3:01:10 GMT -5
When Trump is re-elected where are "youall" going to move to?? AZ....Hi neighbor
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Post by mroped on Jan 12, 2020 7:58:20 GMT -5
When Trump is re-elected where are "youall" going to move to?? If that were to happen-Trump re-elected- all those not agreeing with the results should move in the more “liberal”states, live there, work there, refuse fed taxes and contribution to the golf trips, and declare those states Sanctuaries of Democracy. You know, like “gun sanctuaries” with spelled out grievances etc.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 12, 2020 12:54:40 GMT -5
When Trump is re-elected where are "youall" going to move to?? If that were to happen-Trump re-elected- all those not agreeing with the results should move in the more “liberal”states, live there, work there, refuse fed taxes and contribution to the golf trips, and declare those states Sanctuaries of Democracy. You know, like “gun sanctuaries” with spelled out grievances etc.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 12, 2020 12:56:02 GMT -5
When Trump is re-elected where are "youall" going to move to?? AZ.... You would be more than welcome here. this time of the year warm also.
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Post by sesfw on Jan 12, 2020 16:55:12 GMT -5
But that darn guy kept being Black,
How conveniently you forget his white half
But that's ok ............ Obama did too
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2020 17:36:15 GMT -5
But that darn guy kept being Black,How conveniently you forget his white half But that's ok ............ Obama did too Would you think better of him as a president if he publicly identified himself as an Oreo?
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Post by dezii on Jan 12, 2020 17:38:52 GMT -5
Because I have come to believe our country is done. To elect someone who cares so little about the constitution proves it. Below sums it up from 2016 and hasn't changed. It would be one thing if Trump merely displayed a lack of knowledge of the Constitution. Ignorance can be corrected. However, the problem is not just that Trump is ignorant of the Constitution; it’s that he doesn’t care. His political philosophy, to the extent that he has one, is the demagoguery that the Founders designed the Constitution to protect us against. www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139The shame IMHO would be to reelect the man, especially after the soap opera of the past three plus years..Once? Ok, frustrations...a new face..{though there was no secret as to what we would be getting in the man}, but twice? uh uhu.
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2020 17:48:27 GMT -5
But that darn guy kept being Black,How conveniently you forget his white half But that's ok ............ Obama did too Everyone accept you is smart enough to know that mixed is Black in America. Catch up.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 12, 2020 18:27:16 GMT -5
Hey LOL- I mostly said that because the Baltimore Ravens were on the tube at the time. That, and didn't trump say something nasty about Baltimore? We enjoyed our time there when we visited. If it's a place, person or thing, Trump has said something nasty about it. If it's animal, vegetable or mineral, Trump has said something nasty about it.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 12, 2020 18:34:03 GMT -5
LOL- I mostly said that because the Baltimore Ravens were on the tube at the time. That, and didn't trump say something nasty about Baltimore? We enjoyed our time there when we visited. If it's a place, person or thing, Trump has said something nasty about it. If it's animal, vegetable or mineral, Trump has said something nasty about it. Not Putin.
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Post by dezii on Jan 13, 2020 2:15:47 GMT -5
What is it about Putin and Republicans? I read in today's paper that Maine has a new resident- Former GOP Rep Dana Rohrbaker (R-CA) Why he thought to move himself and family from California to freaking Maine in January is beyond me. He was babbling on about Maine's heritage and early pioneer spirit and freedom loving, blah, blah, blah, like it was 1776 or something. According to the paper though he is also known for his love and devotion to Putin. Bizarre! No forest fires...earthquakes...draughts.....Depending where in Maine...and is comfortable, if gets real cold in Winter...then fly south...have second home say Florida...Am sure he made a killing on his sale of California property...Maine property, unless he went crazy, more reasonable...
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Post by travelingdeb on Jan 13, 2020 12:11:32 GMT -5
No forest fires...earthquakes...draughts.....Depending where in Maine...and is comfortable, if gets real cold in Winter...then fly south...have second home say Florida...Am sure he made a killing on his sale of California property...Maine property, unless he went crazy, more reasonable... Oh, I quite agree, I love it here. But for a surfer from SoCal with no discernable ties to this region at all it is a bit of a head scratcher, especially the time of year. Granted, he is also on the ocean in the southern most corner of the state- really a milder winter compared to inland and up north. He will also find that the political climate there isn't quite what he thinks it is if he is expecting Libertarian Sons of Liberty. I just thought it was a curious thing. That is quite odd... When I moved out there from the West Coast, it was definitely for a job. Fell in love with the area! But you are right, definitely didn't see a lot of people moving out there in the middle of winter for no apparent reason. Maybe a political move?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 13:20:30 GMT -5
No, of course trump is not directly responsible. However it was an indirect result from the action that he took. Nevertheless, this may end up going wither way at this point, and it could strengthen the US position vis a vis Iran, though it has caused diplomatic ripples throughout the countries of the Middle East, none of whom are comfortable with the scenario of American forces operating in such a way in their lands. What bothers me though, regardless of how this one "incident" plays out is the reckless and dangerous path for militaristic adventurism that is being pursued. The risk of miscalculation and escalation is very high. Threatening "rocket man" with fire and brimstone was painless. The Suleimani gambit may have worked, and possibly quite well. Sooner or later however, the luck will run out. It always does with military adventurism. Well executed missions that are successful, have little luck involved. This was planned quite some time ago. One could say that luck is involved with simple appeasement also.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 13, 2020 13:33:02 GMT -5
When Trump is re-elected where are "youall" going to move to?? If that were to happen-Trump re-elected- all those not agreeing with the results should move in the more “liberal”states, live there, work there, refuse fed taxes and contribution to the golf trips, and declare those states Sanctuaries of Democracy. You know, like “gun sanctuaries” with spelled out grievances etc. Opposite. All those liberals should move to red states, especially those on the brink of purple. Texas. We should all move to Texas. 800k Democrats would change the Presidential vote, maybe flip a couple of Senators over the next decade. Pick one or two house districts near Houston and outside Dallas to flood, and get a few volunteers to live just west of San Antonio, we can flip some house seats too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 13:35:38 GMT -5
Well executed missions that are successful, have little luck involved. This was planned quite some time ago. One could say that luck is involved with simple appeasement also. You are not seeing my point. I am not referring to a specific tactical mission at hand, but to the larger effort. I don't believe this was planned some time ago, as they would not have known about his location on that date months in advance. They may have decided to take him out months ago. I believe there was political opportunism involved in the timing as well.Regarding luck and appeasement- true. But then there is an element of luck in anything, isn't there? Good leadership and management includes risk assessment and management, of which "luck" is a component. I am arguing that trump's management style is excessively risky. That is why he has been in bankruptcy 4-5 times. It was not because of prudent planning and execution. I have no answer for your beliefs.
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Post by hoops902 on Jan 13, 2020 13:44:58 GMT -5
Well executed missions that are successful, have little luck involved. This was planned quite some time ago. One could say that luck is involved with simple appeasement also. You are not seeing my point. I am not referring to a specific tactical mission at hand, but to the larger effort. I don't believe this was planned some time ago, as they would not have known about his location on that date months in advance. They may have decided to take him out months ago. I believe there was political opportunism involved in the timing as well. Regarding luck and appeasement- true. But then there is an element of luck in anything, isn't there? Good leadership and management includes risk assessment and management, of which "luck" is a component. I am arguing that trump's management style is excessively risky. That is why he has been in bankruptcy 4-5 times. It was not because of prudent planning and execution. I'm not sure you can argue that his style is excessively risky just because he has been in bankruptcy multiple times. Growing business to be very large requires lots of risk, therefore a "normal" risk aversion for someone looking to grow multiple business to be very large should be high even at a normal level. I do think he seems excessively risky, but I don't think it's because of bankruptcy or anything like that. I think it's because he comes specifically from an area which rewards a normal risk aversion which is MUCH higher than what a normal risk aversion would be in something like foreign relations. Even if he had zero bankruptcies, his risk management for growing businesses would likely be much higher naturally than what should be reasonable for government. It's the fundamental problem I have whenever someone in the private sector says something akin to "I ran a super successful business, and I'd run the government the same way". You SHOULDN'T, the government is not an individual business! People don't become successful growing businesses the same way that a government should be responsibly run.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 13, 2020 15:41:57 GMT -5
SIX! Bankrupt six times and still standing. Well, I guess that is an accomplishment of sorts! it is all part of gaming the system.
he took banks for about $1B in those six bankruptcies. which is why only Douche Bank will lend him money now.
now he is gaming the government, and his minions are cheering it.
#sick
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 13, 2020 15:43:44 GMT -5
If that were to happen-Trump re-elected- all those not agreeing with the results should move in the more “liberal”states, live there, work there, refuse fed taxes and contribution to the golf trips, and declare those states Sanctuaries of Democracy. You know, like “gun sanctuaries” with spelled out grievances etc. Opposite. All those liberals should move to red states, especially those on the brink of purple. Texas. We should all move to Texas. 800k Democrats would change the Presidential vote, maybe flip a couple of Senators over the next decade. Pick one or two house districts near Houston and outside Dallas to flood, and get a few volunteers to live just west of San Antonio, we can flip some house seats too. the best bet would be for some in NM to cross the border into Texas. that would f*&k things up royal. it will never happen, but it is fun to think about.
the other thing that might happen is Project Blue Map. watch for that.
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