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Post by mmhmm on Jan 11, 2020 9:32:50 GMT -5
Do you think Iran would have given us money if directed by the World Courts?? Yes. Agreed. Especially if the money they were "giving" us was our money to begin with.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 11, 2020 9:36:35 GMT -5
Driving home to day, have a wreck,, it will be Trump fault!! cause his name keeps popping in the media that you listen to. Do you honestly, in your deepest parts, with all your intelligence and all your heart believe that Trump's foreign policy decisions did not play a role in this? Some trigger happy Iranian private ranked solider pushes a button, on a missile launcher, Trumps fault! I bet all those soldier were dancing around the street yodeling until some said "OooPPPPPS"!
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 11, 2020 9:38:23 GMT -5
Do you think Iran would have given us money if directed by the World Courts?? Yes. The only thing Iran would give us if it could is death, that is it,, They have said it many times!!
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Post by dondub on Jan 11, 2020 10:49:31 GMT -5
Do you honestly, in your deepest parts, with all your intelligence and all your heart believe that Trump's foreign policy decisions did not play a role in this? Some trigger happy Iranian private ranked solider pushes a button, on a missile launcher, Trumps fault! I bet all those soldier were dancing around the street yodeling until some said "OooPPPPPS"!
Gosh OC, why would you think that’s Trump’s fault? Weird.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 11, 2020 11:05:04 GMT -5
Do you honestly, in your deepest parts, with all your intelligence and all your heart believe that Trump's foreign policy decisions did not play a role in this? Some trigger happy Iranian private ranked solider pushes a button, on a missile launcher, Trumps fault! I bet all those soldier were dancing around the street yodeling until some said "OooPPPPPS"!
What do you think made the Iranian private trigger happy?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 11, 2020 12:09:15 GMT -5
Extremism is extremism, and fundamentalism is fundamentalism is fundamentalism, whether it is in Tehran or Liberty University. not to belabor the point, but in terms of Fundamentalism, the US and Iran are approximately equal, according to the Chicago center of Religious Studies report on religion in the World.
I am not making that up, if anyone is wondering. the US is more fundamentalist than any other Western power. for example, 64% of US citizens believe in a tangible hell, overseen by the horned one. that is approximately the same number in Iran.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 11, 2020 12:10:41 GMT -5
Agreed. Especially if the money they were "giving" us was our money to begin with. it is only rogue states like the US that defy court orders.
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Post by dondub on Jan 11, 2020 15:49:55 GMT -5
The only thing Iran would give us if it could is death, that is it,, They have said it many times!! Well if someone wants to educate themselves versus continued stooping to rightwing talking points creating a false narrative, it's actually quite easy. I would use reading for starters. Then, perhaps, some grasp of the political reality of Iran and the US starting with us murdering their democratically elected leader over O.I.L.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_America
Clause 3 on meaning and interpretation might help. Then again...
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Post by dezii on Jan 11, 2020 16:42:31 GMT -5
Driving home to day, have a wreck,, it will be Trump fault!! cause his name keeps popping in the media that you listen to. hmmm....now that is a possibility...
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Post by tallguy on Jan 11, 2020 16:53:00 GMT -5
The only thing Iran would give us if it could is death, that is it,, They have said it many times!! Well if someone wants to educate themselves versus continued stooping to rightwing talking points creating a false narrative, it's actually quite easy. I would use reading for starters. Then, perhaps, some grasp of the political reality of Iran and the US starting with us murdering their democratically elected leader over O.I.L.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_America
Clause 3 on meaning and interpretation might help. Then again...
You assume much....
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 11, 2020 16:54:42 GMT -5
Extremism is extremism, and fundamentalism is fundamentalism is fundamentalism, whether it is in Tehran or Liberty University. not to belabor the point, but in terms of Fundamentalism, the US and Iran are approximately equal, according to the Chicago center of Religious Studies report on religion in the World.
I am not making that up, if anyone is wondering. the US is more fundamentalist than any other Western power. for example, 64% of US citizens believe in a tangible hell, overseen by the horned one. that is approximately the same number in Iran.
I've noticed this for a while. Christian fundamentalists scare me as much as (if not more) than Muslim fundamentalists.
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Post by dondub on Jan 11, 2020 17:24:23 GMT -5
Well if someone wants to educate themselves versus continued stooping to rightwing talking points creating a false narrative, it's actually quite easy. I would use reading for starters. Then, perhaps, some grasp of the political reality of Iran and the US starting with us murdering their democratically elected leader over O.I.L.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_America
Clause 3 on meaning and interpretation might help. Then again...
You assume much.... Did you miss the ‘then again’?😎
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Post by tallguy on Jan 11, 2020 17:33:12 GMT -5
Did you miss the ‘then again’?😎 No, but that still leaves the matter open to question. There is none.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 11, 2020 18:34:00 GMT -5
Some trigger happy Iranian private ranked solider pushes a button, on a missile launcher, Trumps fault! I bet all those soldier were dancing around the street yodeling until some said "OooPPPPPS"!
What do you think made the Iranian private trigger happy? 14 y.o. soldier?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 11, 2020 18:45:29 GMT -5
The problem with ANY religious fanatic is that not only are they convinced that they are right, they are also convinced that the divine and supreme being is also with them, and counting on them to take whatever action, no matter how fanatic it need be, to further the agenda. Extremism in the cause of------------is no vice.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 11, 2020 18:46:02 GMT -5
not to belabor the point, but in terms of Fundamentalism, the US and Iran are approximately equal, according to the Chicago center of Religious Studies report on religion in the World.
I am not making that up, if anyone is wondering. the US is more fundamentalist than any other Western power. for example, 64% of US citizens believe in a tangible hell, overseen by the horned one. that is approximately the same number in Iran.
I've noticed this for a while. Christian fundamentalists scare me as much as (if not more) than Muslim fundamentalists.
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Post by steff on Jan 11, 2020 19:01:00 GMT -5
Evangelicals are all in for him because they are anxiously awaiting the end of times. They believe he will/is helping speed that up for them. He takes advantage of it because he doesn't believe the same that they do. Why do you think they got little evangelical woodies over moving the embassy to Jerusalem? They believe he will create the destruction & chaos needed to proceed the return of Jesus. It's also the ONLY reason they support Israel. They don't give two shits about Jews, but Israel is necessary for the rapture/end of times. It's also why they support him so blindly. He hates all the same people they do, he creates the chaos necessary for end of times, he gives them the "power" to create the narrative/actions necessary for end of times.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 11, 2020 19:23:20 GMT -5
The only thing Iran would give us if it could is death, that is it,, They have said it many times!! You aren't correct.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 11, 2020 22:04:32 GMT -5
So when they say "death to America", we are not suppose to believe them?
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 11, 2020 22:16:39 GMT -5
Get off your kick blaming Trump, put the blame where squarely belongs, with the Iranians!! I firmly believe the Donald was offered by his military people while at his resort in Florida that there was a good chance US forces could take out the Iranian General and possible other like folks... With out going to his top military and State Dept advisers for their feelings, possible problems arising from such action, he just gave order to carry out the attack. I understand he was upset because a American contractor was killed when Iranian surrogates attacked a area in Iraq. I am sorry that happened but to be honest, as one in charge of fellow grunts who had to police battle areas and put together the remains of fellow grunts...the loss of one contractor, while regrettable...this was a decision the contractor made...earned great deal of $...and yes there are risks for those who are doing that work. I would have known that we would have a problem with Iraq...attacking anyone with no consultation, heads up on their soil...Remember how Pakistan was so upset with us when we took out Ben Laden...How we would react if allies did anything similar on our soil with out any consultation. Our leaders would go ape shit....u know it. So now their PM under great pressure to do what their elected congressional people have unofficially voted to have the US AND Iranian folks to leave the country....and our President threatens this supposedly ally with great terrible sanctions, the country where over 4000 Americans died...we spent almost a TRILLION $ on... and no , I don't believe there was any intelligence of the Iranian General in deep new talks about planning special attacks...beyond the SOP of planning negative what ever against US interests when ever he was in company of his people... Trump pulls out of nuclear deal that all our allies where on board with...stopped Iranian work on a nuclear weapon for 10 years...at least...Allies who were monitoring Iran compliance of the treaty, all say, Iranians were in compliance...Trump put sanctions on the country...not being a international lawyer but I am thinking that is illegal...a war crime because of the hurt on civilians in Iran...and strong armed our allies to go along with his actions, on sanctions, basically go along with us or suffer the consequences...Great way to make, keep friends and influence people. To put it all on the Iranians as u seem to want to do...and none on the Donald..{no surprise there } does not register with me...in fact as usual ...your wrong.....again. Most of the Democratic leaders can not be trusted! you wonder why Trump did not inform them.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 11, 2020 22:40:07 GMT -5
Most of the Democratic leaders can not be trusted! you wonder why Trump did not inform them. The actions you are accusing them of would be treason. And the only one it has been proven blabbed security secrets to foreign governments is Trump. The Democrat Leaders are duly elected representatives of the people. He doesn't have the choice of not informing Congress.
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Post by dondub on Jan 11, 2020 22:44:03 GMT -5
So when they say "death to America", we are not suppose to believe them? If you would simply read the link I have now provided you twice you wouldn’t keep making a fool out of yourself. I’m simply trying to help tallguy be wrong.😎
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Post by dondub on Jan 11, 2020 22:45:48 GMT -5
I firmly believe the Donald was offered by his military people while at his resort in Florida that there was a good chance US forces could take out the Iranian General and possible other like folks... With out going to his top military and State Dept advisers for their feelings, possible problems arising from such action, he just gave order to carry out the attack. I understand he was upset because a American contractor was killed when Iranian surrogates attacked a area in Iraq. I am sorry that happened but to be honest, as one in charge of fellow grunts who had to police battle areas and put together the remains of fellow grunts...the loss of one contractor, while regrettable...this was a decision the contractor made...earned great deal of $...and yes there are risks for those who are doing that work. I would have known that we would have a problem with Iraq...attacking anyone with no consultation, heads up on their soil...Remember how Pakistan was so upset with us when we took out Ben Laden...How we would react if allies did anything similar on our soil with out any consultation. Our leaders would go ape shit....u know it. So now their PM under great pressure to do what their elected congressional people have unofficially voted to have the US AND Iranian folks to leave the country....and our President threatens this supposedly ally with great terrible sanctions, the country where over 4000 Americans died...we spent almost a TRILLION $ on... and no , I don't believe there was any intelligence of the Iranian General in deep new talks about planning special attacks...beyond the SOP of planning negative what ever against US interests when ever he was in company of his people... Trump pulls out of nuclear deal that all our allies where on board with...stopped Iranian work on a nuclear weapon for 10 years...at least...Allies who were monitoring Iran compliance of the treaty, all say, Iranians were in compliance...Trump put sanctions on the country...not being a international lawyer but I am thinking that is illegal...a war crime because of the hurt on civilians in Iran...and strong armed our allies to go along with his actions, on sanctions, basically go along with us or suffer the consequences...Great way to make, keep friends and influence people. To put it all on the Iranians as u seem to want to do...and none on the Donald..{no surprise there } does not register with me...in fact as usual ...your wrong.....again. Most of the Democratic leaders can not be trusted! you wonder why Trump did not inform them. Bunch of Iranian spies. Put ‘em on the frog march list!
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Post by tallguy on Jan 11, 2020 23:40:52 GMT -5
So when they say "death to America", we are not suppose to believe them? If you would simply read the link I have now provided you twice you wouldn’t keep making a fool out of yourself. I’m simply trying to help tallguy be wrong.😎You of course realize what an exceedingly rare occurrence that is.... NO chance of it here.
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Post by dezii on Jan 12, 2020 0:30:16 GMT -5
I firmly believe the Donald was offered by his military people while at his resort in Florida that there was a good chance US forces could take out the Iranian General and possible other like folks... With out going to his top military and State Dept advisers for their feelings, possible problems arising from such action, he just gave order to carry out the attack. I understand he was upset because a American contractor was killed when Iranian surrogates attacked a area in Iraq. I am sorry that happened but to be honest, as one in charge of fellow grunts who had to police battle areas and put together the remains of fellow grunts...the loss of one contractor, while regrettable...this was a decision the contractor made...earned great deal of $...and yes there are risks for those who are doing that work. I would have known that we would have a problem with Iraq...attacking anyone with no consultation, heads up on their soil...Remember how Pakistan was so upset with us when we took out Ben Laden...How we would react if allies did anything similar on our soil with out any consultation. Our leaders would go ape shit....u know it. So now their PM under great pressure to do what their elected congressional people have unofficially voted to have the US AND Iranian folks to leave the country....and our President threatens this supposedly ally with great terrible sanctions, the country where over 4000 Americans died...we spent almost a TRILLION $ on... and no , I don't believe there was any intelligence of the Iranian General in deep new talks about planning special attacks...beyond the SOP of planning negative what ever against US interests when ever he was in company of his people... Trump pulls out of nuclear deal that all our allies where on board with...stopped Iranian work on a nuclear weapon for 10 years...at least...Allies who were monitoring Iran compliance of the treaty, all say, Iranians were in compliance...Trump put sanctions on the country...not being a international lawyer but I am thinking that is illegal...a war crime because of the hurt on civilians in Iran...and strong armed our allies to go along with his actions, on sanctions, basically go along with us or suffer the consequences...Great way to make, keep friends and influence people. To put it all on the Iranians as u seem to want to do...and none on the Donald..{no surprise there } does not register with me...in fact as usual ...your wrong.....again. Most of the Democratic leaders can not be trusted! you wonder why Trump did not inform them. Another untruthful statement...have any links that prove the "Most"..or just more goblegoop aka the Donald Trump? Just wondering and asking.
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2020 1:12:39 GMT -5
If you would simply read the link I have now provided you twice you wouldn’t keep making a fool out of yourself. I’m simply trying to help tallguy be wrong.😎You of course realize what an exceedingly rare occurrence that is.... NO chance of it here. 😎
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Post by dezii on Jan 12, 2020 2:46:35 GMT -5
Evangelicals are all in for him because they are anxiously awaiting the end of times. They believe he will/is helping speed that up for them. He takes advantage of it because he doesn't believe the same that they do. Why do you think they got little evangelical woodies over moving the embassy to Jerusalem? They believe he will create the destruction & chaos needed to proceed the return of Jesus. It's also the ONLY reason they support Israel. They don't give two shits about Jews, but Israel is necessary for the rapture/end of times. It's also why they support him so blindly. He hates all the same people they do, he creates the chaos necessary for end of times, he gives them the "power" to create the narrative/actions necessary for end of times. For what ever reason..."end of times" or what ever..this Jewish guy is ok for their support for what ever reason...better that then the opposite...If they don't give two s***s about us...thats fine...To be honest...we don't believe in the raptures , end of times either..so I guess it's a wash...
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 12, 2020 13:13:04 GMT -5
Most of the Democratic leaders can not be trusted! you wonder why Trump did not inform them. Another untruthful statement...have any links that prove the "Most"..or just more goblegoop aka the Donald Trump? Just wondering and asking. Who can you trust in Washington?? Terry James Albury, James Comey, James McCabe, and others. These people are suppose to be Honest,, That is how far down the politicians are,
Who again are we suppose to TRUST??
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 12, 2020 13:15:22 GMT -5
So when they say "death to America", we are not suppose to believe them? If you would simply read the link I have now provided you twice you wouldn’t keep making a fool out of yourself. I’m simply trying to help tallguy be wrong.😎 WHAT?? I will read it right away!!
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2020 14:49:58 GMT -5
So when they say "death to America", we are not suppose to believe them? Yes, to the same degree of believing Merican's threatening to turn Iran into a parking lot.
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