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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 10, 2020 10:50:24 GMT -5
Actually it's progressive. You can start off not an alcoholic but drink enough to make yourself dependent. And get progressively more dependent as time and drinking goes on. Eventually over time you no longer get a buzz from whatever substance you are using because you've become tolerant. So you start using more. Meanwhile while all this is going on your brain is saying "Whoa, that's too much X, time to produce an equal amount of Y to compensate!" Your body will do whatever it takes to preserve itself. Now you need whatever it is just to feel normal. You can easily end up there if you do something long enough and consistent enough. Not everyone is going to end up dead in a ditch or struggling well into their 40's like my husband is, but we can all become addicts if we do something long enough. Coffee is a good example of that. We don't tend to think of coffee that way but caffine is a mind altering substance. If you find you can't function until you've had your morning cup (or more) of coffee technically speaking you've achieved addiction. It just doesn't carry the same weight and connotation as someone addicted to alcohol or opiates does.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Jan 10, 2020 10:59:41 GMT -5
Ms. Dinero you said: Don’t think we’re alcoholics but I’m not opposed to hearing why we could be.
There is a very simple statement that is frequently used by those in AA. " If you think you might have a problem with drinking, you probably do".
Best of luck.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Jan 10, 2020 11:07:32 GMT -5
Beth: Before I forget, make sure there is no mouthwash or cough syrup with alcohol in the house. Hell, check the vanilla extract too. Hard-core alcoholics like your BIL will find them and drink them. Sad but true. According to my mother, her grandparents or parents, used to drink cough syrup for the alcohol. The maternal line is a long string of drunks. I ran that by DH a couple of days ago. It never crossed his mind. And he doesn't think it crossed his Mom's mind either. I'll bring it up again. Thanks!
I've read that people did drink extracts back during Prohibition since it was one way to get alcohol.
Or hairspray. Maybe not found in your BIL's home, but for others who might be reading this.
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Post by justme on Jan 10, 2020 11:40:25 GMT -5
So I definitely think it can be a habit without needing to drink. Though I definitely think that can be an excuse. I found myself drinking home more than I had and I asked myself a few times why that was and it took me a while to figure out why. I could go without drinking for a while no problem, sometimes drank more sometimes less. I can go out with friends are drinking and don't drink if I don't want to. For me, personally, I came to the conclusion I was drinking wine because I wanted something else to drink and my options are limited. I'm a water, strawberry milk, juice, juice with liquor, smoothies, or wine drinker. That's it. Don't like soda, tea, coffee, regular or chocolate milk, energy drinks, beer, if there's anything I'm missing I probably don't like that either. I drink a lot of water at work - like a slow day is still close to 60z for me and a high day is easily double that. I do not want to drink anymore water when I get home (unless I'm working out). I don't want strawberry milk all the time (because it's all sugar). I've tried flavored waters but I don't like the ones that don't add sugar too. And it's really freaking hard to find 100% juice without added sugar and other crap in the states that's not apple juice or cranberry (which I don't really care for). So my options once I got home were apple juice or wine. I finally found some 100% juices that I like. Ironically they're not much cheaper than the wine, and I'm kinda bummed they're in single serving containers so more trash (especially since my condo no longer recycles). But having them in my fridge gives me more options to drink and more options directly led to choosing wine less. In fact when I drank wine earlier this week it was when I ran out of cold juice boxes in the fridge.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on Jan 10, 2020 11:41:10 GMT -5
I ran that by DH a couple of days ago. It never crossed his mind. And he doesn't think it crossed his Mom's mind either. I'll bring it up again. Thanks!
I've read that people did drink extracts back during Prohibition since it was one way to get alcohol.
Or hairspray. Maybe not found in your BIL's home, but for others who might be reading this. I prefer to set my hairspray on fire, you know, the flamethrower trick, than to drink it. Hell, some people will drink rubbing alcohol. Which just sounds absolutely disgusting.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Jan 10, 2020 11:44:08 GMT -5
Or hairspray. Maybe not found in your BIL's home, but for others who might be reading this. I prefer to set my hairspray on fire, you know, the flamethrower trick, than to drink it. Hell, some people will drink rubbing alcohol. Which just sounds absolutely disgusting. Agreed, to all of the above.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 11:59:11 GMT -5
Or hairspray. Maybe not found in your BIL's home, but for others who might be reading this. I prefer to set my hairspray on fire, you know, the flamethrower trick, than to drink it. Hell, some people will drink rubbing alcohol. Which just sounds absolutely disgusting. Many years ago when my first husband was just my boyfriend, he got in a car accident in an uncontrolled intersection driving to class. The woman was in a big old station wagon (circa National Lampoon's Vacation), full of kids not in seat belts and he was driving a little car. The car had some good dents in the passenger side door, station wagon seemed ok. A while later we get served with a law suit for a fortune, like a million or something (he's a college kid making maybe 12K/year). Apparently the woman is now suffering all these debilitating neck and back injuries that are going to prevent her "from pursuing her dream of becoming a bush pilot". This law suit seemed to have go on forever mostly because we were in the process of planning on building our house and this was putting everything on hold. Anyhow, during all this it came out that when she went into the ER later that night (she refused medical treatment on the scene), the ER docs noted she smelled strongly of alcohol. My boyfriend's attorney demanded all her past medical records and she had a slew of trips to the ER, including one just a few weeks before the car accident where, as it was stated in the medical report, she "fell down a flight of stairs after consuming a large amount of rubbing alcohol". Needless to say, she never got a dime, but that was my first foray into people pulling this kind of stuff and I was so furious our lives were being upended by this woman for over a year. There was even a long postponement of the case because she moved to FL in the winters. This is a woman with no job and a slew of kids, but she was a snowbird apparently.
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 10, 2020 12:03:26 GMT -5
So I definitely think it can be a habit without needing to drink. Though I definitely think that can be an excuse. I found myself drinking home more than I had and I asked myself a few times why that was and it took me a while to figure out why. I could go without drinking for a while no problem, sometimes drank more sometimes less. I can go out with friends are drinking and don't drink if I don't want to. For me, personally, I came to the conclusion I was drinking wine because I wanted something else to drink and my options are limited. I'm a water, strawberry milk, juice, juice with liquor, smoothies, or wine drinker. That's it. Don't like soda, tea, coffee, regular or chocolate milk, energy drinks, beer, if there's anything I'm missing I probably don't like that either. I drink a lot of water at work - like a slow day is still close to 60z for me and a high day is easily double that. I do not want to drink anymore water when I get home (unless I'm working out). I don't want strawberry milk all the time (because it's all sugar). I've tried flavored waters but I don't like the ones that don't add sugar too. And it's really freaking hard to find 100% juice without added sugar and other crap in the states that's not apple juice or cranberry (which I don't really care for). So my options once I got home were apple juice or wine. I finally found some 100% juices that I like. Ironically they're not much cheaper than the wine, and I'm kinda bummed they're in single serving containers so more trash (especially since my condo no longer recycles). But having them in my fridge gives me more options to drink and more options directly led to choosing wine less. In fact when I drank wine earlier this week it was when I ran out of cold juice boxes in the fridge. all of this. I found my tolerance has increased a ton since moving to this house and spending my first summer fully embracing the "Cape Cod lifestyle" and that just continued as I was going out more to avoid the roommate that finally just moved out. definitely an excuse, and it got used a lot. this first week that he's been gone, I've gone out exactly once - to grab lunch on my way home from work. I had a glass of wine, b/c I was at the bar at an Italian restaurant. did I need it? no. was it habit? absolutely. as far as what I choose to drink and when - I drink a ton of water during the day at work (close to 2L most days) and don't drink enough of it at home (not enough liquid in general, honestly). there have been WFH days that I found myself pouring a glass of wine with lunch b/c it was chilled in the wine fridge and there was nothing in the actual fridge except roommate's nasty Diet Coke. the first thing I did after clearing his crap out of the fridge was to load up the shelf he used to use for tonic and loaded it up with various flavors of seltzers. I'm WFH today, and I've got a can of mandarin orange Polar on the table next to me. I think it's all about breaking the habits I have developed in my 5y here. the next one to go needs to be the cocktail or glass of wine as I cook dinner. that almost always turns into another later on.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jan 10, 2020 12:54:22 GMT -5
Think about your children. My ex neighbor, the one who left the water running when evicted, used to sit outside on Saturday afternoons and drink beers while his two young kids were playing near him. Great role model, right? Good for you that you are recognizing the problem and looking for a way to deal with it. I do this all the time (drink beers while the kids play). I think I'm a good mother. But thanks for throwing shade.
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Post by hoops902 on Jan 10, 2020 12:56:58 GMT -5
Think about your children. My ex neighbor, the one who left the water running when evicted, used to sit outside on Saturday afternoons and drink beers while his two young kids were playing near him. Great role model, right? Good for you that you are recognizing the problem and looking for a way to deal with it. I do this all the time (drink beers while the kids play). I think I'm a good mother. But thanks for throwing shade. Terrible role modeling, your kids might drink beers one day!
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jan 10, 2020 13:01:02 GMT -5
I do this all the time (drink beers while the kids play). I think I'm a good mother. But thanks for throwing shade. Terrible role modeling, your kids might drink beers one day! Oh god how horrible! In honesty, I don't drink soda, so sometimes I get bored with sparkling water and coffee.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 13:04:38 GMT -5
I better not talk about all the alcohol I buy for the kid's summer birthday parties. It's about the only time I stock the beer fridge in the garage since I don't drink much myself, but get 20-30 midwestern adults over for a barbecue/birthday party and I go through a lot.
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Post by souldoubt on Jan 10, 2020 13:09:00 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with drinking in front of or around your kids it's all about moderation and being responsible. Same thing applies to eating habits and everything else people teach or don't teach their kids through their actions. How many kids do you see that are overweight or obese just like their parents and when you see them out they're eating a meal that's probably 1,200+ calories while drinking soda? You can drink responsibly while still being healthy whereas someone with terrible eating habits that's overweight is in for a slew of problems long term if they don't change their habits.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 10, 2020 13:15:29 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with drinking in front of or around your kids it's all about moderation and being responsible. Same thing applies to eating habits and everything else people teach or don't teach their kids through their actions. How many kids do you see that are overweight or obese just like their parents and when you see them out they're eating a meal that's probably 1,200+ calories while drinking soda? You can drink responsibly while still being healthy whereas someone with terrible eating habits that's overweight is in for a slew of problems long term if they don't change their habits. Do you feel the same about parents smoking a joint around their kids?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 13:19:18 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with drinking in front of or around your kids it's all about moderation and being responsible. Same thing applies to eating habits and everything else people teach or don't teach their kids through their actions. How many kids do you see that are overweight or obese just like their parents and when you see them out they're eating a meal that's probably 1,200+ calories while drinking soda? You can drink responsibly while still being healthy whereas someone with terrible eating habits that's overweight is in for a slew of problems long term if they don't change their habits. Do you feel the same about parents smoking a joint around their kids? I don't, because it's illegal where I live. That would be me saying to them that it's ok to break laws you don't agree with.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 10, 2020 13:21:05 GMT -5
Do you feel the same about parents smoking a joint around their kids? I don't, because it's illegal where I live. That would be me saying to them that it's ok to break laws you don't agree with.
Ditto.
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Post by souldoubt on Jan 10, 2020 13:28:26 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with drinking in front of or around your kids it's all about moderation and being responsible. Same thing applies to eating habits and everything else people teach or don't teach their kids through their actions. How many kids do you see that are overweight or obese just like their parents and when you see them out they're eating a meal that's probably 1,200+ calories while drinking soda? You can drink responsibly while still being healthy whereas someone with terrible eating habits that's overweight is in for a slew of problems long term if they don't change their habits. Do you feel the same about parents smoking a joint around their kids? Yes but that would be up to the parent to decide. I should note it's legal where I live but I don't partake because my wife isn't a fan. She has no problem when we go to family functions and people drink (maybe a bit too much sometimes) but she's never smoked pot and has the hang up on it that quite a few people do because it was once illegal. For me between taking a hit or two or drinking a few drinks to relax I'll take the former for multiple reasons.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Jan 10, 2020 14:10:18 GMT -5
I don't, because it's illegal where I live. That would be me saying to them that it's ok to break laws you don't agree with.
Ditto. It's legal here, too. Though I'm not a parent, my neighbor friend who is told me while at a fellow neighbor's birthday party last month (I was holiday baking and didn't attend, though DH did), the grandparents would come in from smoking it outside and of course brought the smell in with them. As the mom, she didn't mind, but took issue with the fact her children (and others) were present.
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Post by giramomma on Jan 10, 2020 15:22:53 GMT -5
Actually it's progressive. You can start off not an alcoholic but drink enough to make yourself dependent. And get progressively more dependent as time and drinking goes on. I agree it's progressive. All addictions are, even behavioral addictions. Trust me, I know where my husband's behaviors will end up if his chosen ones now stop getting him high eventually.
But, I also think that there is a biological component to addiction. IOW, addiction is a brain disease. I would be hard pressed to believe that folks become addicts even when their brains are not wired to be susceptible to addiction. Otherwise, how do you explain that I engage in some of the same addictive behaviors my husband does, as often as he did...and he's the addict and I'm not.
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Post by souldoubt on Jan 10, 2020 15:24:48 GMT -5
To me the issue with that scenario is smoking around other people's kids. The concern as unlikely as it may be is a contact high. I wouldn't want my kids around someone smoking cigarettes because of the damage that it can do to their lungs and as a non-smoker I don't even want to be around it. If someone else wants to smoke cigarettes around their kids that's on them. As a kid a friends dad used to smoke all the time in his sun room. Even though he kept the door closed except for when he was going in/out anytime I went over there I reeked of cigarettes as did anything I took with me when I spent the night. One of the kids living there seemed to always have a cough or phlegm issues. Thankfully that guy quit cold turkey after decades of smoking going back to his days serving in Vietnam but the damage was done to his kids lungs.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 10, 2020 15:58:39 GMT -5
Actually it's progressive. You can start off not an alcoholic but drink enough to make yourself dependent. And get progressively more dependent as time and drinking goes on. I agree it's progressive. All addictions are, even behavioral addictions. Trust me, I know where my husband's behaviors will end up if his chosen ones now stop getting him high eventually.
But, I also think that there is a biological component to addiction. IOW, addiction is a brain disease. I would be hard pressed to believe that folks become addicts even when their brains are not wired to be susceptible to addiction. Otherwise, how do you explain that I engage in some of the same addictive behaviors my husband does, as often as he did...and he's the addict and I'm not. Read that book Never Enough I've been talking about. Emerging neuroscience into addiction is really interesting. There is a biological component but it's also been shown that even a lot of people who are up addicts eventually end up deciding to quit with no problems never to return. This is even for hard core drugs like heroin which I was surprised to read. Then there are people like my DH and your DH. What makes DH different from people who can experiment in their 20's then never pick it up again science hasn't figured out yet.
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Post by souldoubt on Jan 10, 2020 16:08:26 GMT -5
I agree it's progressive. All addictions are, even behavioral addictions. Trust me, I know where my husband's behaviors will end up if his chosen ones now stop getting him high eventually.
But, I also think that there is a biological component to addiction. IOW, addiction is a brain disease. I would be hard pressed to believe that folks become addicts even when their brains are not wired to be susceptible to addiction. Otherwise, how do you explain that I engage in some of the same addictive behaviors my husband does, as often as he did...and he's the addict and I'm not. Read that book Never Enough I've been talking about. Emerging neuroscience into addiction is really interesting. There is a biological component but it's also been shown that even a lot of people who are up addicts eventually end up deciding to quit with no problems never to return. This is even for hard core drugs like heroin which I was surprised to read. Then there are people like my DH and your DH. What makes DH different from people who can experiment in their 20's then never pick it up again science hasn't figured out yet.This is something that I try to keep in mind because of my own experiences where I quit things cold turkey without issue. I haven't seen my dad in years but when I last did he was a functioning alcoholic who would get off work and drink ~6 beers then be back at work no problems the next day. I'm sure I could do that too assuming I built up that tolerance but I just don't have the desire or see the point and consider it wasted calories. Most the people I partied with got away from it but some didn't. Whether it's nature, nurture or both we'll never know for sure but in some cases I'm talking about siblings who ended up going in opposite directions.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jan 10, 2020 17:34:14 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with drinking in front of or around your kids it's all about moderation and being responsible. Same thing applies to eating habits and everything else people teach or don't teach their kids through their actions. How many kids do you see that are overweight or obese just like their parents and when you see them out they're eating a meal that's probably 1,200+ calories while drinking soda? You can drink responsibly while still being healthy whereas someone with terrible eating habits that's overweight is in for a slew of problems long term if they don't change their habits. Do you feel the same about parents smoking a joint around their kids? No, because I don't like the smell and I don't want my daughter inhaling my second hand smoke. Beer doesn't have that problem; I rarely spill and if I do she doesn't lap up the dregs.
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Post by Pants on Jan 10, 2020 17:45:11 GMT -5
I agree it's progressive. All addictions are, even behavioral addictions. Trust me, I know where my husband's behaviors will end up if his chosen ones now stop getting him high eventually.
But, I also think that there is a biological component to addiction. IOW, addiction is a brain disease. I would be hard pressed to believe that folks become addicts even when their brains are not wired to be susceptible to addiction. Otherwise, how do you explain that I engage in some of the same addictive behaviors my husband does, as often as he did...and he's the addict and I'm not. Read that book Never Enough I've been talking about. Emerging neuroscience into addiction is really interesting. There is a biological component but it's also been shown that even a lot of people who are up addicts eventually end up deciding to quit with no problems never to return. This is even for hard core drugs like heroin which I was surprised to read. Then there are people like my DH and your DH. What makes DH different from people who can experiment in their 20's then never pick it up again science hasn't figured out yet. I think there’s a “yes and” issue here. Like if person A and person B both do any given drug on a casual basis, one, or both, or neither might end up addicts. But, if you lock person A and person B up and forcibly inject them with (heroin, morphine, delaudid, cocaine, nicotine, WHATEVER) for, let’s say 6 months before releasing them into the wild - there’s like a zero percent chance they aren’t BOTH addicted. (Also heavily traumatized.) So it’s BOTH the substance and the brain.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 10, 2020 17:47:14 GMT -5
Read that book Never Enough I've been talking about. Emerging neuroscience into addiction is really interesting. There is a biological component but it's also been shown that even a lot of people who are up addicts eventually end up deciding to quit with no problems never to return. This is even for hard core drugs like heroin which I was surprised to read. Then there are people like my DH and your DH. What makes DH different from people who can experiment in their 20's then never pick it up again science hasn't figured out yet. I think there’s a “yes and” issue here. Like if person A and person B both do any given drug on a casual basis, one, or both, or neither might end up addicts. But, if you lock person A and person B up and forcibly inject them with (heroin, morphine, delaudid, cocaine, nicotine, WHATEVER) for, let’s say 6 months before releasing them into the wild - there’s like a zero percent chance they aren’t BOTH addicted. (Also heavily traumatized.) So it’s BOTH the substance and the brain. Pretty much.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 11, 2020 8:14:58 GMT -5
Read that book Never Enough I've been talking about. Emerging neuroscience into addiction is really interesting. There is a biological component but it's also been shown that even a lot of people who are up addicts eventually end up deciding to quit with no problems never to return. This is even for hard core drugs like heroin which I was surprised to read. Then there are people like my DH and your DH. What makes DH different from people who can experiment in their 20's then never pick it up again science hasn't figured out yet. I think there’s a “yes and” issue here. Like if person A and person B both do any given drug on a casual basis, one, or both, or neither might end up addicts. But, if you lock person A and person B up and forcibly inject them with (heroin, morphine, delaudid, cocaine, nicotine, WHATEVER) for, let’s say 6 months before releasing them into the wild - there’s like a zero percent chance they aren’t BOTH addicted. (Also heavily traumatized.) So it’s BOTH the substance and the brain. Interesting..... I was on some heavy duty narcotics for over a year. When the pain went away, I stopped the drugs....no big deal. But I know this is different for everyone. I never craved them. I had 4 surgeries in 11 months. I went back for post op prescriptions, and asked for smaller doses of the same drug, I did not need the massive doses I did at the beginning, and was tapering off. About the time I had stopped using, I had another surgery. During this time, I never had any withdrawal symptoms. Not a single one. Both of my parents smoked. Mom tried several times to stop, and she went crazy with cravings. She got lung cancer and died. The day she died, my dad stopped smoking. Never had the urge to go back. It was not a big deal for him. Seeing 2 very disparate responses to the addictive effects of nicotine was pretty interesting from the outside looking in. Genetics plays so much into addiction. How much? Clueless.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 8:31:39 GMT -5
I have a hard time imagining myself becoming addicted to narcotics either. They do nothing pleasurable for me and usually they just make me sick. When I had my kidney stones they sent me home with a bunch of vicodin. I took one or two and said screw this, I'd rather have the pain.
Meanwhile a guy I worked with was stealing them out of my toolbox.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 11, 2020 8:34:57 GMT -5
Think about your children. My ex neighbor, the one who left the water running when evicted, used to sit outside on Saturday afternoons and drink beers while his two young kids were playing near him. Great role model, right? Good for you that you are recognizing the problem and looking for a way to deal with it. My parents drank around us all the time. They drank in moderation. When we were older (12 or so) we were offered wine if they had wine with dinner. I grabbed slugs of my dad’s beer from the time I could toddle to his can. Asa result, while all of my friends went out to get drunk, I drank to a point and stopped. I had access at home, if I wanted so it was stupid to go out and pay to get drunk if I wanted to get drunk at home for free. That took the mystique out of alcohol, because it was not banned at home.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 11, 2020 8:36:55 GMT -5
I have a hard time imagining myself becoming addicted to narcotics either. They do nothing pleasurable for me and usually they just make me sick. When I had my kidney stones they sent me home with a bunch of vicodin. I took one or two and said screw this, I'd rather have the pain. Meanwhile a guy I worked with was stealing them out of my toolbox. I had few side effects, other than I could not concentrate on them. I didn’t feel any euphoria, all they did was screw up my sleep patterns and I was having a hard enough time trying to sleep as it was. When I was waiting for surgery, my doctor wrote me a prescription for narcotics to use as needed. I think I had 30 tablets and had taken a few. I had work done on my apartment and the maintenance man rifled through my medicine cabinet and emptied the bottle. I discovered it because the idiot left the aspirin container on my vanity. I had not used either recently.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jan 11, 2020 9:47:37 GMT -5
When I had my gall bladder surgery, I never used a single does of the prescribed opiate. I had taken it in the hospital.
I decided that since I was going to be home alone most of the time, I needed to be somewhat functional.
About 6 months after surgery, I disposed of the opiates.
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