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Post by dondub on Jan 9, 2020 14:10:32 GMT -5
It's not that 737.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 9, 2020 14:14:42 GMT -5
Not a joke. Following the logic. No not really, you're being a bit of an ass. If one kicks a hornets nest, not only the one who kicked might get stung. Follow the logic....try again. My old co-worker would say 'When shit hits the fan, innocent people get splattered' 😢
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 9, 2020 14:15:54 GMT -5
Whoa! It isn’t clear yet WHO shot it down. And I mourn every one on that plane It doesn't really matter who did it, it was a result of your (as in all Americans) military action. And if it had been 67 Americans it would at least be making the news in the States. Not disagreeing with you sbout military action; It’s all over the news today And the American people do not support this action. Your news may not be reporting the anti war demonstrations that are happening all over the country. Yesterday I joined several hundred in my little town to protest
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 9, 2020 14:16:45 GMT -5
The 737-800 has been involved in a number of fatal accidents over its long period of service. One of the most recent fatal incidents involving a 737-800 occurred in September 2018, when a flight by the Papua New Guinea airline Air Niugini undershot the runway at Chuuk airport in Micronesia and landed in a lagoon. One of the 47 occupants died. In March 2016 a FlyDubai flight from Dubai to the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don crashed while attempting to land. All 62 people on board died. In January 2010 an Ethiopian Airlines flight to the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa crashed into the Mediterranean Sea shortly after takeoff from Beirut Rafic Hariri airport, killing 90. In 2007 a Kenya Airways flight carrying 115 people crashed shortly after takeoff from Douala, Cameroon, on a flight to the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, with no survivors. The Ukraine crash comes during a crisis period for Boeing. The 737 Max has been grounded worldwide since March after two crashes in which everyone onboard died. The UIA crash comes less than a year after the second of those, Ethiopian Airlines flight 302. www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/08/boeing-737-800-that-crashed-in-tehran-most-popular-model-in-skies
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dondub
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Post by dondub on Jan 9, 2020 14:24:59 GMT -5
It is accepted local knowledge that once Boeing moved it's HQ to Chicago and started plants in SC with much cheaper labor for jacking the bottom line, that shit was going to happen. I prefer Airbus now, especially as the restrooms accommodate my 6'4" height with ease.
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dondub
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Post by dondub on Jan 9, 2020 14:28:17 GMT -5
Yes, we shot down that Iranian passenger liner and 200+ were killed.
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Post by haapai on Jan 9, 2020 14:47:29 GMT -5
You are conflating two very different posters, one of which is "a bit of an <deleted>"
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 9, 2020 14:55:14 GMT -5
I think that you are being unnecessarily harsh on this poster. There's definitely a history of commercial aircraft being misidentified as possibly military targets in this part of the world. There's also KAL 007 to consider. That happened in another part of the world, but it definitely supports the thesis that commercial passenger aircraft have a history of being shot down by trigger-happy military folks when tensions are high.
You also might be transferring a bit of your anger at another poster toward billisonboard.
No, I'm mad at bills for calling 176 people dead "Shit happens" Would you like to classify Columbine as "shit happens"? Not that I would like doing it, but I do think it fits the category of shit that happened.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 9, 2020 15:04:19 GMT -5
Hey, watch who you are calling an asshole. You are quoting me so I am the one that you should be call an asshole. The human condition sucks. We die. If we are fortunate it is peacefully after a long time on the planet. But that certainly isn't always the case. It is sad when death is untimely or thought to be avoidable. But it is reality. No, I responded to your statement and then I responded to jma's whole attitude. I will call you an asshole when it's appropriate and I will admit we are getting close. Seriously? This is how you respond about other people's losses? You really are fulfilling the ugly American stereotype, it didn't happen to Americans it doesn't matter. It is actually how I respond to losses when asked "Why?". Accidents happen. Miscalculations happen. Evil happens. Shit happens. An Eschatological Laundry list: By Sheldon Kopp (1974) And, FWIW, I don't differentiate for nationality.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 15:34:25 GMT -5
Curious how their radar would potentially see it as a missile when the plane was departing Tehran.
If it was taken out by a missile no flipping way it was intentional, they would have nothing to gain by it.
Also just curious is going through Tehran a common route for Canadians to get to the Ukraine?
I think it’s horrible so many civilians were killed, I don’t care what nationality they are.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 9, 2020 15:40:51 GMT -5
Curious how their radar would potentially see it as a missile when the plane was departing Tehran. If it was taken out by a missile no flipping way it was intentional, they would have nothing to gain by it. Also just curious is going through Tehran a common route for Canadians to get to the Ukraine?
I think it’s horrible so many civilians were killed, I don’t care what nationality they are. Yes. All 176 people aboard Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752 were killed early Wednesday morning, including 138 passengers travelling to Canada, many of whom were students, researchers or lecturers with ties to schools across the country. "Unfortunately, because of sanctions, there are not many options available to the Iranian-Canadian community to travel to Iran, and the ones that are available are not very affordable," said Younes Zangiabadi, research director and board member of the ICC. Sixty-three of the dead were Canadian citizens. Canada broke off diplomatic relations with Iran in 2012. There are no direct flights between Canada and Iran, which means passengers have to use connecting flights. They would have had no choice but to take the longer but most affordable route through Kyiv, Zangiabadi said. www.cbc.ca/news/world/canadians-plane-crash-iran-1.5419076
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 10, 2020 9:27:46 GMT -5
Thanks dem
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 13:18:23 GMT -5
Curious how their radar would potentially see it as a missile when the plane was departing Tehran. If it was taken out by a missile no flipping way it was intentional, they would have nothing to gain by it. Also just curious is going through Tehran a common route for Canadians to get to the Ukraine? I think it’s horrible so many civilians were killed, I don’t care what nationality they are. I've heard a report that it was mistaken for a fighter plane, as it was just a couple hours after their missile attack against the Iraqi base, and they were at high alert expecting an attack from the air. The last I heard on the news, is that they still deny shooting it down.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 11, 2020 13:30:25 GMT -5
Curious how their radar would potentially see it as a missile when the plane was departing Tehran. If it was taken out by a missile no flipping way it was intentional, they would have nothing to gain by it. Also just curious is going through Tehran a common route for Canadians to get to the Ukraine? I think it’s horrible so many civilians were killed, I don’t care what nationality they are. I've heard a report that it was mistaken for a fighter plane, as it was just a couple hours after their missile attack against the Iraqi base, and they were at high alert expecting an attack from the air. The last I heard on the news, is that they still deny shooting it down. Iran is now stating they unintentionally shot the plane down. Iran Says It Unintentionally Shot Down Ukrainian Airliner
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 11, 2020 13:38:18 GMT -5
60 people dead from trampling at the Soleimani funeral and 176 dead from unintentional downing of plane due to increased tensions. 236 deaths because of that ignorant and odious bastard, Trump. Their blood is on his hands.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 11, 2020 14:03:19 GMT -5
So many dead Canadians. Thanks a lot, you fat fuck!
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 11, 2020 16:21:55 GMT -5
Iran admitted they accidentally shot it down.
Good for them, admitting they fucked up. I'm assuming they'll make some kind of restitution.
Can you imagine trump ever admitting he did anything wrong? It was probably bad judgment on the airline's part to let their airplane take off just 2 hours after Iran had bombed the American bases.
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Post by Opti on Jan 11, 2020 16:33:18 GMT -5
60 people dead from trampling at the Soleimani funeral and 176 dead from unintentional downing of plane due to increased tensions. 236 deaths because of that ignorant and odious bastard, Trump. Their blood is on his hands. I think Trump is a contributing factor, but I won't put all the blame on him. It appears Iran shot that plane down, hopefully by mistake. Which is still awful as are the people who got trampled at the funeral. There was a high risk for Iran doing something stupid militarily. On the other hand, how does any President of any country cause a deadly stampede in another country, when they aren't there and didn't plan the funeral?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 11, 2020 16:57:46 GMT -5
Iran admitted they accidentally shot it down. Good for them, admitting they fucked up. I'm assuming they'll make some kind of restitution. Can you imagine trump ever admitting he did anything wrong? It was probably bad judgment on the airline's part to let their airplane take off just 2 hours after Iran had bombed the American bases. But all of the deaths ARE consequences of the actions of The Impeached One. Even if the consequences are unexpected, the deaths are still consequences.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 11, 2020 18:10:48 GMT -5
60 people dead from trampling at the Soleimani funeral and 176 dead from unintentional downing of plane due to increased tensions. 236 deaths because of that ignorant and odious bastard, Trump. Their blood is on his hands. I think Trump is a contributing factor, but I won't put all the blame on him. It appears Iran shot that plane down, hopefully by mistake. Which is still awful as are the people who got trampled at the funeral. There was a high risk for Iran doing something stupid militarily. On the other hand, how does any President of any country cause a deadly stampede in another country, when they aren't there and didn't plan the funeral? Iran is not claiming to be an ally. All the blame is on Trump for putting allies and civilians at risk for nothing but his own ego. And then not making any effort to protect them.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 11, 2020 18:27:18 GMT -5
60 people dead from trampling at the Soleimani funeral and 176 dead from unintentional downing of plane due to increased tensions. 236 deaths because of that ignorant and odious bastard, Trump. Their blood is on his hands. I think Trump is a contributing factor, but I won't put all the blame on him. It appears Iran shot that plane down, hopefully by mistake. Which is still awful as are the people who got trampled at the funeral. There was a high risk for Iran doing something stupid militarily. On the other hand, how does any President of any country cause a deadly stampede in another country, when they aren't there and didn't plan the funeral? Trump is Ground Zero. If he hadn't killed Iran's second in command, people wouldn't have been trampled. If he hadn't stirred up tensions in Iran, 176 people would still be alive. And for what? No proof of ANY imminent threat, as Trump claims. He did it because there's an election coming up and to distract us from his impeachment.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 11, 2020 18:40:06 GMT -5
Iran admitted they accidentally shot it down. Good for them, admitting they fucked up. I'm assuming they'll make some kind of restitution. Can you imagine trump ever admitting he did anything wrong? It was probably bad judgment on the airline's part to let their airplane take off just 2 hours after Iran had bombed the American bases. Holy cow, trying to blame every one except the one that did it!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 11, 2020 18:41:32 GMT -5
Once again, attacks will not be tolerated, even clever ones. deminmaine, Moderator Clever ones??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 19:57:02 GMT -5
Iran admitted they accidentally shot it down. Good for them, admitting they fucked up. I'm assuming they'll make some kind of restitution. Can you imagine trump ever admitting he did anything wrong? It was probably bad judgment on the airline's part to let their airplane take off just 2 hours after Iran had bombed the American bases. Holy cow, trying to blame every one except the one that did it!! It's still Hillary's fault. Deaths always leads back to a Clinton. If she didn't screw up her campaign with mismanagement, Trump would of never been president. Let the blame lie where it belongs. It can't possibly be the Iranians pulling the trigger.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 12, 2020 13:26:04 GMT -5
It's still Hillary's fault. Deaths always leads back to a Clinton. If she didn't screw up her campaign with mismanagement, Trump would of never been president. Let the blame lie where it belongs. It can't possibly be the Iranians pulling the trigger. Yup, she forced you, physically forced you to vote for the thuggish criminal con man, right? Uhhhh, yes!!, Like I said before the election even happened, my vote was against Hillary not for Trump.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 12, 2020 13:28:31 GMT -5
Since Hillary came up, If she had been President,,, Soleimani would have suicided,, long before now!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 12:15:11 GMT -5
It's still Hillary's fault. Deaths always leads back to a Clinton. If she didn't screw up her campaign with mismanagement, Trump would of never been president. Let the blame lie where it belongs. It can't possibly be the Iranians pulling the trigger. Yup, she forced you, physically forced you to vote for the thuggish criminal con man, right? As much as Trump was pressing that firing button over in Iran, for that surface to air missile.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 13, 2020 15:41:21 GMT -5
Since Hillary came up, If she had been President,,, Soleimani would have suicided,, long before now!! Accusing people of murder with absolutely no basis is so hilarious.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 13, 2020 16:13:25 GMT -5
Since Hillary came up, If she had been President,,, Soleimani would have suicided,, long before now!! Accusing people of murder with absolutely no basis is so hilarious. the other funny aspect of this post is that it appears to be a clear admission of her superiority.
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