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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 8, 2019 13:08:54 GMT -5
Okay, so we all know Trump doesn't care about anything that doesn't personally affect him. What kind of dumps is he taking that he needs to flush 15 times? Mind you, he is full of shit... With Trump's diet of well-done steaks and hamberders, he's not taking ANY dumps. He's probably backed up as far as his throat.
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Post by tallguy on Dec 8, 2019 13:17:55 GMT -5
Okay, so we all know Trump doesn't care about anything that doesn't personally affect him. What kind of dumps is he taking that he needs to flush 15 times? Mind you, he is full of shit... With Trump's diet of well-done steaks and hamberders, he's not taking ANY dumps. He's probably backed up as far as his throat. Is that why so much comes out his mouth?
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 8, 2019 13:30:09 GMT -5
With Trump's diet of well-done steaks and hamberders, he's not taking ANY dumps. He's probably backed up as far as his throat. Is that why so much comes out his mouth? No. That was and still is a pre-existing condition.
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 9, 2019 9:14:17 GMT -5
Really? California's legislature is the obstacle that would make this "great idea" not happen? How often is there "excessive floodwater"? How many different locations would you have to have catch basins? How much infrastructure would be involved to get the water west? How would California farmers plan for the "perhaps maybe" having the irrigation water in a given year? I am not the civil enginear here. I know it would be difficult. Maybe take baby steps, say, by Houston area running pipes to only western Texas which is very dry, and irrigate 100's of thousands of acres there. We all know the Oklahoma aquifier is going dry. Forget the name, but it covers several states. Pipe it there, and just like shale oil injection, pump onder pressure into the sand aquifier being pumped from. Do not forget the outlandish idea a few decades ago of hauling icebergs into the Mediteranean to the ME states for drinking water purposes. Now they would say this is killing the planet by melting the ice flows But that was plan that was considered back then! I think there are still iceberg theories floating around - I heard of one where they would float icebergs from the north pole down the coast of California, to melt them and pump them inland. I think the cheaper option, first, is to regulate things like golf courses and large fountains in dry areas (and even remove grass lawns, which are a total water suck). Some parts of the country can't support those kinds of water hogging things. Cheaper to reduce use than come up with more water, usually.
One issue that comes up around water is the reluctance of states and municipalities to share it. Atlanta doesn't have an adequate water supply and has been trying for decades to slip a pipe over their border into Tennessee to link up to the TN river. There is plenty of water in the TN river, but TN refuses to share it. Atlanta even dangled the possibility of paying for a high speed rail between Chattanooga and Atlanta if Chattanooga would allow a water pipe to run under the train tracks. Then Georgia started a law suit to expand their state just enough to butt up against Nickajack lake, an artificial lake on the TN. That case is still in the courts. People never like to share water, it seems.
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 9, 2019 9:48:01 GMT -5
I am not the civil enginear here. I know it would be difficult. Maybe take baby steps, say, by Houston area running pipes to only western Texas which is very dry, and irrigate 100's of thousands of acres there. We all know the Oklahoma aquifier is going dry. Forget the name, but it covers several states. Pipe it there, and just like shale oil injection, pump onder pressure into the sand aquifier being pumped from. Do not forget the outlandish idea a few decades ago of hauling icebergs into the Mediteranean to the ME states for drinking water purposes. Now they would say this is killing the planet by melting the ice flows But that was plan that was considered back then! I think there are still iceberg theories floating around - I heard of one where they would float icebergs from the north pole down the coast of California, to melt them and pump them inland. I think the cheaper option, first, is to regulate things like golf courses and large fountains in dry areas (and even remove grass lawns, which are a total water suck). Some parts of the country can't support those kinds of water hogging things. Cheaper to reduce use than come up with more water, usually.
One issue that comes up around water is the reluctance of states and municipalities to share it. Atlanta doesn't have an adequate water supply and has been trying for decades to slip a pipe over their border into Tennessee to link up to the TN river. There is plenty of water in the TN river, but TN refuses to share it. Atlanta even dangled the possibility of paying for a high speed rail between Chattanooga and Atlanta if Chattanooga would allow a water pipe to run under the train tracks. Then Georgia started a law suit to expand their state just enough to butt up against Nickajack lake, an artificial lake on the TN. That case is still in the courts. People never like to share water, it seems.
Water Rights are one of those things that having no detailed knowledge about them is dangerous. I am involved marginally in an effort to move from a Water Permit to being granted a Water Right. Our location, near the top of a drainage, means that what we are working to be granted for use by a few thousand impacts millions of people. And if we get the Right, it will exist forever.
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Post by kadee79 on Dec 9, 2019 10:34:48 GMT -5
I think there are still iceberg theories floating around - I heard of one where they would float icebergs from the north pole down the coast of California, to melt them and pump them inland. I think the cheaper option, first, is to regulate things like golf courses and large fountains in dry areas (and even remove grass lawns, which are a total water suck). Some parts of the country can't support those kinds of water hogging things. Cheaper to reduce use than come up with more water, usually.
One issue that comes up around water is the reluctance of states and municipalities to share it. Atlanta doesn't have an adequate water supply and has been trying for decades to slip a pipe over their border into Tennessee to link up to the TN river. There is plenty of water in the TN river, but TN refuses to share it. Atlanta even dangled the possibility of paying for a high speed rail between Chattanooga and Atlanta if Chattanooga would allow a water pipe to run under the train tracks. Then Georgia started a law suit to expand their state just enough to butt up against Nickajack lake, an artificial lake on the TN. That case is still in the courts. People never like to share water, it seems.
Water Rights are one of those things that having no detailed knowledge about them is dangerous. I am involved marginally in an effort to move from a Water Permit to being granted a Water Right. Our location, near the top of a drainage, means that what we are working to be granted for use by a few thousand impacts millions of people. And if we get the Right, it will exist forever. Water availability will be the cause of the next world war. Fracking is a horribly wasteful use of potable water!...check how much is used in the process! We have already screwed up many areas of our environment by regulating where water can flow. It is harmful to the entire planet to change these things...in the long term. In other words, it will be our grand & great-grand children that will suffer for the choices we make in this decade. Is that what you want? As HH said....reduce usage. Watering lawns is a waste!
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Post by mollyanna58 on Dec 9, 2019 10:46:11 GMT -5
Lest we forget, Trump also said he is bringing back the electric light bulb too! Can't believe you guys did not jump all over this! I think he was referring to incandescent light bulbs. Most light bulbs including compact fluorescents and LEDs are electric.
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Post by kadee79 on Dec 9, 2019 10:58:03 GMT -5
If Ca. would break up and get rid of all the concrete they put in many river beds...they wouldn't have a lot of the problems they have now. Never did understand the idea of concreting river beds to send all that water to the ocean when it does rain there...instead of letting it soak into the ground! I'm sure no one there realizes that it is a bad idea. Please share your expertise in water resources management and let them know. Just catching up from yesterday...I was busy most of the day. My, my aren't you informative...I have never claimed to be an expert in water resources management, however, I do have some common sense which I often use. Can't vouch for whether or not others use any common sense they may or may not have. Anyone who has not been to Ca. may not be aware that many of the river beds have been concreted....and now that those concrete river beds have been built around...it would be a major undertaking to do away with them...but then you likely knew that already in your great knowledge!
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 9, 2019 11:06:49 GMT -5
Is that why so much comes out his mouth? No. That was and still is a pre-existing condition. lucky he can get ObamaCare.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 9, 2019 11:08:51 GMT -5
I am not the civil enginear here. I know it would be difficult. Maybe take baby steps, say, by Houston area running pipes to only western Texas which is very dry, and irrigate 100's of thousands of acres there. We all know the Oklahoma aquifier is going dry. Forget the name, but it covers several states. Pipe it there, and just like shale oil injection, pump onder pressure into the sand aquifier being pumped from. Do not forget the outlandish idea a few decades ago of hauling icebergs into the Mediteranean to the ME states for drinking water purposes. Now they would say this is killing the planet by melting the ice flows But that was plan that was considered back then! I think there are still iceberg theories floating around - I heard of one where they would float icebergs from the north pole down the coast of California, to melt them and pump them inland. I think the cheaper option, first, is to regulate things like golf courses and large fountains in dry areas (and even remove grass lawns, which are a total water suck). Some parts of the country can't support those kinds of water hogging things. Cheaper to reduce use than come up with more water, usually.
One issue that comes up around water is the reluctance of states and municipalities to share it. Atlanta doesn't have an adequate water supply and has been trying for decades to slip a pipe over their border into Tennessee to link up to the TN river. There is plenty of water in the TN river, but TN refuses to share it. Atlanta even dangled the possibility of paying for a high speed rail between Chattanooga and Atlanta if Chattanooga would allow a water pipe to run under the train tracks. Then Georgia started a law suit to expand their state just enough to butt up against Nickajack lake, an artificial lake on the TN. That case is still in the courts. People never like to share water, it seems.
I think they should be regulated out of existence, except in cases where they can be naturally irrigated through rainfall.
(sorry, dem)
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 9, 2019 12:59:24 GMT -5
I'm sure no one there realizes that it is a bad idea. Please share your expertise in water resources management and let them know. Just catching up from yesterday...I was busy most of the day. My, my aren't you informative...I have never claimed to be an expert in water resources management, however, I do have some common sense which I often use. Can't vouch for whether or not others use any common sense they may or may not have. Anyone who has not been to Ca. may not be aware that many of the river beds have been concreted....and now that those concrete river beds have been built around...it would be a major undertaking to do away with them...but then you likely knew that already in your great knowledge! Actually I have no knowledge nor information on the topic and therefore wouldn't dream of proclaiming that most of the problems California is experiencing would be solved by anything that I would suggest. I do tend to think little of "common sense" on topics which have a scientific basis.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 10, 2019 7:24:50 GMT -5
I am not the civil enginear here. I know it would be difficult. Maybe take baby steps, say, by Houston area running pipes to only western Texas which is very dry, and irrigate 100's of thousands of acres there. We all know the Oklahoma aquifier is going dry. Forget the name, but it covers several states. Pipe it there, and just like shale oil injection, pump onder pressure into the sand aquifier being pumped from. Do not forget the outlandish idea a few decades ago of hauling icebergs into the Mediteranean to the ME states for drinking water purposes. Now they would say this is killing the planet by melting the ice flows But that was plan that was considered back then! I think there are still iceberg theories floating around - I heard of one where they would float icebergs from the north pole down the coast of California, to melt them and pump them inland. I think the cheaper option, first, is to regulate things like golf courses and large fountains in dry areas (and even remove grass lawns, which are a total water suck). Some parts of the country can't support those kinds of water hogging things. Cheaper to reduce use than come up with more water, usually.
One issue that comes up around water is the reluctance of states and municipalities to share it. Atlanta doesn't have an adequate water supply and has been trying for decades to slip a pipe over their border into Tennessee to link up to the TN river. There is plenty of water in the TN river, but TN refuses to share it. Atlanta even dangled the possibility of paying for a high speed rail between Chattanooga and Atlanta if Chattanooga would allow a water pipe to run under the train tracks. Then Georgia started a law suit to expand their state just enough to butt up against Nickajack lake, an artificial lake on the TN. That case is still in the courts. People never like to share water, it seems.
Some of the dry plains states are still trying to take water from the great lakes regions. Why not pump water from all the rain in Louisiana and Alabama and use that? The water pumps in NO start pumping immediately when heavy rain is forecast. Maybe they could send it to the lakes for storage in Georgia.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 10, 2019 8:20:20 GMT -5
Arizona doesn't let a drop of water leave the state unless legally necessary. Real deserts are good at this stuff. 😎
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 10, 2019 19:03:32 GMT -5
Lest we forget, Trump also said he is bringing back the electric light bulb too! Can't believe you guys did not jump all over this! Well, he says so much ignorant and stupid shit, that we can't be on top of EVERYTHING! We would have forego sleep and work.
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Post by dondub on Dec 10, 2019 19:21:21 GMT -5
Lest we forget, Trump also said he is bringing back the electric light bulb too! Can't believe you guys did not jump all over this! Well, he says so much ignorant and stupid shit, that we can't be on top of EVERYTHING! We would have forego sleep and work. I don't know about everyone else, but all of our light bulbs run on electricity now.
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 10, 2019 20:07:14 GMT -5
Well, he says so much ignorant and stupid shit, that we can't be on top of EVERYTHING! We would have forego sleep and work. I don't know about everyone else, but all of our light bulbs run on electricity now. The President also added that he intends to weaken standards of electricity usage in light bulbs. The new, efficient bulb “doesn’t make you look as good. … It gives you an orange look. I don’t want an orange look.” nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/trump-toilets-flush10-15-times-light-bulbs-orange.html
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