billisonboard
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 22, 2020 10:20:21 GMT -5
Actually the "real" decision on impeachment has already been made by the US House of Representatives, doing their Constitutional duty. The US Senate is now making the "real" decision on removal. The American people will make the "real" decision on how they like the job their Representatives did, some on how their Senators did, and likely on whether they wish to have President Trump continue in office. This is how our Constitutional Representative Democracy is designed to function. Yes, driven by the hatred of Trump, What Trump did probably has been done a thousand time by other Presidents, asking them to look in to something. ... It would be great if there weren't all the emotional aspects involved and previous presidents had been held to higher ethical standards. I don't find that to be a compelling reason to let this president of the hook for his behavior.
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Wisconsin Beth
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 22, 2020 10:31:53 GMT -5
I am not convinced that this outcome is absolutely certain. there are limits to what a person will stand. and I think Trump is getting dangerously close to stepping past that into oblivion.
I wish I had any hope that he'd be removed, but I just don't. And there's also the fact that I'm no keener on Pence. The Democratic Party knows how to fight a campaign involving Pence though. He's a step back to 'normal' politics, even though he's a step back in damn near everything political that I dislike.
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Post by sesfw on Jan 22, 2020 10:51:09 GMT -5
And there's also the fact that I'm no keener on Pence.
Next in line after Pence is Pelosi.
Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.
but I'm not going to waste any time trying to explain it to you either.
That's a relief ............. thank you
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Post by dondub on Jan 22, 2020 11:19:49 GMT -5
And there's also the fact that I'm no keener on Pence.Next in line after Pence is Pelosi. Be careful what you wish for, you might get it. but I'm not going to waste any time trying to explain it to you either.That's a relief ............. thank you I have already discovered your lack of desire to learn anything, so no dead horse for me.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 22, 2020 12:01:41 GMT -5
Actually the "real" decision on impeachment has already been made by the US House of Representatives, doing their Constitutional duty. The US Senate is now making the "real" decision on removal. The American people will make the "real" decision on how they like the job their Representatives did, some on how their Senators did, and likely on whether they wish to have President Trump continue in office. This is how our Constitutional Representative Democracy is designed to function. Yes, driven by the hatred of Trump, What Trump did probably has been done a thousand time by other Presidents, asking them to look in to something. If this had been anything except a kangaroo court proceeding this would have never happened. If it was not for an occasional new story about it, most are not concerned to even talk about it.
But like in a real hearing, if found innocent,,, means innocent of all charges!! except in the minds of some Democrats,, that we will hear about for the next Century,
I can hear it now, Headline: Stock Market blew thru 40,000 today,, but Trump was impeached, by the House, we will never hear that he was found innocent by the Senate!!
I'd love to see some evidence that other presidents withheld aid to get dirt on a political rival. I will accept any evidence on any president at this point.
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