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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 8:53:54 GMT -5
Of course every expert is wrong. Everybody is wrong. We're all out of step except Trump.
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Post by dezii on Dec 6, 2019 9:43:50 GMT -5
I have a question...I thought I heard that Trump commentated under his breath when he found out that he was being mocked by some EU Presidents and he didn't know the mike on him or near him was live...this was before he flew home early from the meetings.. I did google trying to find that report...I understand he was really P off and said/muttered some cryptic thoughts but google didn't show such a event. Anyone familier with the story or did I just mishear... {I was just curiouse to see his remarks when off the record...gives more insight into the man...actually just being nosy ... }
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Post by swamp on Dec 6, 2019 9:49:38 GMT -5
I have been worried about Trump's mental state, and he seems to be declining. I youtubed some clips of him speaking the other night, and it's clear his ability to speak clearly has declined. He doesn't finish sentences, he goes back to key phrases, he slurs his words, he can't come up with the right word (oranges instead of origins, said multiple times), and he's going off on more tangents.
I also found some clips of him speaking in the 80's and 90s. He used to be fairly articulate.
His tweeting is also becoming more frantic and I think it's more frequent.
The language decline is a sign of alzheimer's. My mom has it. She does the same thing.
He is also a narcissist who is dealing with a reality that he can no longer control.
I'm not saying this because I don't like Trump, I don't, but I also want a President who represents America at its best. This guy is mentally ill, failing, and it can be dangerous. I'm starting to get really scared about what he may do, and the people that continue to support him no matter what gibberish he spews.
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Post by dezii on Dec 6, 2019 10:06:44 GMT -5
I have been worried about Trump's mental state, and he seems to be declining. I youtubed some clips of him speaking the other night, and it's clear his ability to speak clearly has declined. He doesn't finish sentences, he goes back to key phrases, he slurs his words, he can't come up with the right word (oranges instead of origins, said multiple times), and he's going off on more tangents. I also found some clips of him speaking in the 80's and 90s. He used to be fairly articulate. His tweeting is also becoming more frantic and I think it's more frequent. The language decline is a sign of alzheimer's. My mom has it. She does the same thing. He is also a narcissist who is dealing with a reality that he can no longer control. I'm not saying this because I don't like Trump, I don't, but I also want a President who represents America at its best. This guy is mentally ill, failing, and it can be dangerous. I'm starting to get really scared about what he may do, and the people that continue to support him no matter what gibberish he spews. " I'm starting to get really scared about what he may do, and the people that continue to support him no matter what gibberish he spews. " ...Proof in point...have u seen how he is reverting to the playground language of a year ago when referring to North Korean leader.. They mentioned him in a derogatory name and instead of ignoring it... {it really wasn't that bad and it was a commentator who said it, not the leader} he , the Donald, immediately went on the attack....getting personal....This after his renarks on how great a guy and great friends they both are have been playing out for over a year.... It could be hilereouse except that this leader is as mental as our man is and both are armed to the teeth...both conventional and nuclear and both have threatened use of... Soviets and we never got that personal during the cold war. Both subscribed and believed in MAD.....Not sure the Donald and Supreme Leader do. {MAD....Mutual Assured Destruction...results of exchange of nuclear weapons}
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Dec 6, 2019 10:51:38 GMT -5
DH commented the other night that he thinks Trump is done and wants out and that's why he is getting more erractic.
I disagree I think it's he is realizing the situation is out of his control and nothing will drive a narcissist more insane than knowing they aren't controlling the show. It's probably the first time in his life he's being truly held accountable.
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Post by laterbloomer on Dec 6, 2019 10:58:41 GMT -5
DH commented the other night that he thinks Trump is done and wants out and that's why he is getting more erractic.I disagree I think it's he is realizing the situation is out of his control and nothing will drive a narcissist more insane than knowing they aren't controlling the show. It's probably the first time in his life he's being truly held accountable. But he's in danger of going to prison without the protection of the office.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 6, 2019 11:03:49 GMT -5
I have a question...I thought I heard that Trump commentated under his breath when he found out that he was being mocked by some EU Presidents and he didn't know the mike on him or near him was live...this was before he flew home early from the meetings.. I did google trying to find that report...I understand he was really P off and said/muttered some cryptic thoughts but google didn't show such a event. Anyone familier with the story or did I just mishear... {I was just curiouse to see his remarks when off the record...gives more insight into the man...actually just being nosy ... } I think I heard that he thought he was off mic when he said something lole 'That was funny when I called him two-faced'.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 6, 2019 11:11:56 GMT -5
In other news today......the President knocked Impeachment off the front page, for a few minutes, on the jobs report this morning. Even his critics are saying this was hhuuugge Lower tier workers, non management, are almost to a 4% pay increase on the year. I cannot remember how many years ago I received anything close to a 4% wage increase.......
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 6, 2019 11:13:36 GMT -5
Of course every expert is wrong. Everybody is wrong. We're all out of step except Trump. Well everyone is allowed to have an opinion. I thought they were not ever to suppose to say these things unless they actually had him under their care......or their foot on his throat
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Post by Bob Ross on Dec 6, 2019 11:49:27 GMT -5
In other news today......the President knocked Impeachment off the front page, for a few minutes, on the jobs report this morning. Even his critics are saying this was hhuuugge Lower tier workers, non management, are almost to a 4% pay increase on the year. I cannot remember how many years ago I received anything close to a 4% wage increase....... Every time someone posts something like this, I ask the same question: What did Trump do to cause this...i.e why should he get the credit? ...and so far no one has ever answered. One of my co-workers is retiring at the end of this month because he won $4 million on a scratcher ticket. I guess he should thank Trump for that, since Trump was in office when it happened.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 6, 2019 11:53:18 GMT -5
In other news today......the President knocked Impeachment off the front page, for a few minutes, on the jobs report this morning. Even his critics are saying this was hhuuugge Lower tier workers, non management, are almost to a 4% pay increase on the year. I cannot remember how many years ago I received anything close to a 4% wage increase....... Every time someone posts something like this, I ask the same question: What did Trump do to cause this...i.e why should he get the credit? ...and so far no one has ever answered. One of my co-workers is retiring at the end of this month because he won $4 million on a scratcher ticket. I guess he should thank Trump for that, since Trump was in office when it happened. Less regulation Lower business taxes Equals more production due to increased business investment, increased sales and more workers hired. Wish democrats understood simple economics. Why would anyone hate to see the lower economic strata class get jobs and earn a living? Should be happy about it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 6, 2019 11:59:48 GMT -5
In other news today......the President knocked Impeachment off the front page, for a few minutes, on the jobs report this morning. Even his critics are saying this was hhuuugge Lower tier workers, non management, are almost to a 4% pay increase on the year. I cannot remember how many years ago I received anything close to a 4% wage increase....... Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000How many of those 'new' jobs will be lost once the holiday season is over?
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Post by Bob Ross on Dec 6, 2019 12:10:26 GMT -5
Every time someone posts something like this, I ask the same question: What did Trump do to cause this...i.e why should he get the credit? ...and so far no one has ever answered. One of my co-workers is retiring at the end of this month because he won $4 million on a scratcher ticket. I guess he should thank Trump for that, since Trump was in office when it happened. Less regulation Lower business taxes Equals more production due to increased business investment, increased sales and more workers hired. Wish democrats understood simple economics. Why would anyone hate to see the lower economic strata class get jobs and earn a living? Should be happy about it. Or the bulk of the tax cut going to stock buybacks, executive compensation, etc. www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/what-did-corporate-america-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621And as far as the jobs growth goes, man look at the impact he's had on the trajectory It's almost like he's riding the coattails of someone else. www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/07/05/trump-is-falling-almost-1-million-jobs-short-vs-obama/#429c37fd8caaBut I will give him credit that at least he didn't do anything to screw it all up (yet).
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Post by dondub on Dec 6, 2019 12:15:46 GMT -5
Nice try, Bob, but no Repo-Con will even mention Obama. Gosh, I sure wish the Repo-Cons understood simple economics. If they did perhaps we wouldn't have had the debilitating BushCo. Crash that screwed up so many Americans lives.
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Post by kadee79 on Dec 6, 2019 12:39:47 GMT -5
Gee, a whooping 4% increase...when you are making $10 an hour comes out to a fantastic $208 a year. That might buy a house or a car, right? If you make $15 an hr. that goes up to $312 a year. Yippee...now you can afford to remodel that house you bought when you were only making $10 an hour. Sooooooooooo, it depends on how much you make in the first place whether or not a 4% increase is anything to crow about. And wasn't it you that was just saying that those looking for jobs are mostly over age 50 or under age 25 & all will either need training or retraining? Putting the 2 together....welcome to the REAL world, the world of the majority of Americans! And I don't want to hear about they should have done this or that...you don't know every situation (generic you) whether personal or community....not everyone is able to change where they live nor are they all able to increase their education level(s)...it all depends! All those things take money...that they don't have to begin with due to corporations having such low pay scales!...and other businesses too.
A bunch of numbers don't tell the whole story!
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 7, 2019 2:00:54 GMT -5
job growth under Trump has been slowing down. you can actually see that the slop of the curve is lower.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 7, 2019 9:34:02 GMT -5
Someone said that when you remove the returning strike workers, it was below expectations?
As always, conflicting info is making this hard to put in a sound byte and have the common lay person understand the full picture.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 7, 2019 10:02:32 GMT -5
Someone said that when you remove the returning strike workers, it was below expectations? As always, conflicting info is making this hard to put in a sound byte and have the common lay person understand the full picture. Last week talking heads were saying it would be under 100,000.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 7, 2019 10:28:16 GMT -5
Gee, a whooping 4% increase...when you are making $10 an hour comes out to a fantastic $208 a year. That might buy a house or a car, right? If you make $15 an hr. that goes up to $312 a year. Yippee...now you can afford to remodel that house you bought when you were only making $10 an hour. Sooooooooooo, it depends on how much you make in the first place whether or not a 4% increase is anything to crow about. And wasn't it you that was just saying that those looking for jobs are mostly over age 50 or under age 25 & all will either need training or retraining? Putting the 2 together....welcome to the REAL world, the world of the majority of Americans! And I don't want to hear about they should have done this or that...you don't know every situation (generic you) whether personal or community....not everyone is able to change where they live nor are they all able to increase their education level(s)...it all depends! All those things take money...that they don't have to begin with due to corporations having such low pay scales!...and other businesses too. A bunch of numbers don't tell the whole story! Kadee, like me you have been around a while. How many decades has it been when you saw hourly rates increasing in a year when you worked? Unless you had a great union negotiating an new contract, even then a 4% first year jump was pretty strong. Back in the 60's my dad made the same argument about higher paid people getting more money at a 4% increase than entry level people making much less per hour (4% at $10ph versus 4% at $6ph, etc. That is part of life. Your correct a bunch of numbers do not tell the whole story. How many people are graduating basically illiterate from the public school systems in the major cities? How can anyone expect to land a good paying job without a decent eucation? And we have not discussed work ethic where the workers show up five days a week every week rather than missing a day every week and wondering why they make so little money.....
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Post by dondub on Dec 12, 2019 13:34:48 GMT -5
Of course every expert is wrong. Everybody is wrong. We're all out of step except Trump. Well everyone is allowed to have an opinion. I thought they were not ever to suppose to say these things unless they actually had him under their care......or their foot on his throat Like Trump mentioning Greta’s “anger management”? I’m sure you’ll be condemning that soon.
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Post by hurley1980 on Dec 12, 2019 15:34:54 GMT -5
Of course every expert is wrong. Everybody is wrong. We're all out of step except Trump. I'm convinced Jesus himself could return and tell everyone that Trump is the antichrist, and his cultists would still all love Trump! There is just nothing that can be said or done at this point, they are all lost causes.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 12, 2019 17:11:24 GMT -5
Of course every expert is wrong. Everybody is wrong. We're all out of step except Trump. Well everyone is allowed to have an opinion. I thought they were not ever to suppose to say these things unless they actually had him under their care......or their foot on his throat Harvard psychiatrist Lance Dodes: Donald Trump is a "sociopath" and "a very sick individual"Harvard professor and psychoanalyst on the "antiquated" Goldwater rule and our president's "serious mental illness" The president of the United States is a global celebrity whose every action is endlessly commented upon and dissected for meaning by the news media, foreign powers (both friends and foes alike) and the public. In the age of television and now the internet, there are hundreds of thousands of hours of video and audio footage of every president widely available. There are also rumors and leaks from within the White House and other branches of government that can help paint a picture of a given president's moods, desires, thoughts and other behavior. What is to be done if this evidence collectively suggests that the president of the United States is mentally ill? Unfortunately, with Donald Trump this is not the stuff of a political thriller. It is painfully plausible and all too real. The evidence suggesting that Donald Trump may have serious mental health problems is overwhelming. Why are so many psychiatrists and other clinicians afraid to comment about Donald Trump's mental health? What is the role of the "Goldwater rule" -- which holds that mental health professionals should not attempt to diagnose public figures they have not personally treated -- in their relative silence? Is Donald Trump suffering from symptoms of mental illness? If so, what type of disorder does he exhibit, and what are the consequences for America and the world? Complete article here: Harvard psychiatrist Lance Dodes: Donald Trump is a "sociopath" and "a very sick individual"
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Every time someone posts something like this, I ask the same question: What did Trump do to cause this...i.e why should he get the credit? ...and so far no one has ever answered. One of my co-workers is retiring at the end of this month because he won $4 million on a scratcher ticket. I guess he should thank Trump for that, since Trump was in office when it happened. Less regulationLower business taxes Equals more production due to increased business investment, increased sales and more workers hired. Wish democrats understood simple economics. Why would anyone hate to see the lower economic strata class get jobs and earn a living? Should be happy about it. Yes, I should be happy about businesses now being allowed to their toxic waste into rivers and streams. It's a Good Thing.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 12, 2019 19:37:18 GMT -5
Every time someone posts something like this, I ask the same question: What did Trump do to cause this...i.e why should he get the credit? ...and so far no one has ever answered. One of my co-workers is retiring at the end of this month because he won $4 million on a scratcher ticket. I guess he should thank Trump for that, since Trump was in office when it happened. Less regulation Lower business taxes Equals more production due to increased business investment, increased sales and more workers hired. Wish democrats understood simple economics. Why would anyone hate to see the lower economic strata class get jobs and earn a living? Should be happy about it. Because that isn't what has happened the last few times we tried it.
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Every time someone posts something like this, I ask the same question: What did Trump do to cause this...i.e why should he get the credit? ...and so far no one has ever answered. One of my co-workers is retiring at the end of this month because he won $4 million on a scratcher ticket. I guess he should thank Trump for that, since Trump was in office when it happened. Less regulation Lower business taxes Equals more production due to increased business investment, increased sales and more workers hired. Wish democrats understood simple economics. Why would anyone hate to see the lower economic strata class get jobs and earn a living? Should be happy about it. Since you're the economic expert explain to me why it's ok to have the deficit we have right now? Back when Obama was president, the only thing I ever heard was bitching about how much he raised it. Trump raised it by 68%, and you still think he's a business genius? Raising the deficit in good economic times?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 20:43:58 GMT -5
Less regulation Lower business taxes Equals more production due to increased business investment, increased sales and more workers hired. Wish democrats understood simple economics. Why would anyone hate to see the lower economic strata class get jobs and earn a living? Should be happy about it. Since you're the economic expert explain to me why it's ok to have the deficit we have right now? Back when Obama was president, the only thing I ever heard was bitching about how much he raised it. Trump raised it by 68%, and you still think he's a business genius? Raising the deficit in good economic times? Ahhh the kryptonite to the current crop of GOP. Prepare for: Deflect to something about the poor or totally unrelated. Congress wouldn’t support it even if a President wanted to do something about it. No other candidate is talking about cutting it. Our parents didn’t do anything about it so we don’t have to either. The deficit to them was horrible when Obama was in power but the thing the cool kids are into with Trump. Despicable.
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Post by kadee79 on Dec 12, 2019 21:37:41 GMT -5
Gee, a whooping 4% increase...when you are making $10 an hour comes out to a fantastic $208 a year. That might buy a house or a car, right? If you make $15 an hr. that goes up to $312 a year. Yippee...now you can afford to remodel that house you bought when you were only making $10 an hour. Sooooooooooo, it depends on how much you make in the first place whether or not a 4% increase is anything to crow about. And wasn't it you that was just saying that those looking for jobs are mostly over age 50 or under age 25 & all will either need training or retraining? Putting the 2 together....welcome to the REAL world, the world of the majority of Americans! And I don't want to hear about they should have done this or that...you don't know every situation (generic you) whether personal or community....not everyone is able to change where they live nor are they all able to increase their education level(s)...it all depends! All those things take money...that they don't have to begin with due to corporations having such low pay scales!...and other businesses too. A bunch of numbers don't tell the whole story! Kadee, like me you have been around a while. How many decades has it been when you saw hourly rates increasing in a year when you worked? Unless you had a great union negotiating an new contract, even then a 4% first year jump was pretty strong. Back in the 60's my dad made the same argument about higher paid people getting more money at a 4% increase than entry level people making much less per hour (4% at $10ph versus 4% at $6ph, etc. That is part of life. Your correct a bunch of numbers do not tell the whole story. How many people are graduating basically illiterate from the public school systems in the major cities? How can anyone expect to land a good paying job without a decent eucation? And we have not discussed work ethic where the workers show up five days a week every week rather than missing a day every week and wondering why they make so little money..... Sorry, but back in the 60's & 70's I was either working where I got good raises or I was in a union shop & got good raises there too. Most of my raises back in those days were from $0.25 to $0.50 per hr. which was MUCH more than a tiny 3%-4% raise. See if you can find out the average raise that Walmart gives to the regular employees...not dept. heads, but the stockers & cashiers. They weren't doing very good about 10 yrs. ago...some only go $0.05 per hr. raise. But at the same time, how much did the Walton family drag in?
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