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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 10:48:25 GMT -5
Check out New Zealand, how fast thing happened there,,
They were quite moderate compared to the gun grabbers here!!
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 5, 2019 12:04:22 GMT -5
Check out New Zealand, how fast thing happened there,,
They were quite moderate compared to the gun grabbers here!!
Please quote the part of the New Zealand Constitution that affirms the right to own guns. Last I checked, New Zealand laws were not subject to the USA constitution. So, their gun control process is completely irrelevant.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Dec 5, 2019 12:54:46 GMT -5
All I know is here in my state, back in 2013, we successfully recalled two senators who supported new gun legislation: The Democrats made it abundantly clear as to their stance on gun control. Whether or not that includes eventually taking them away entirely, as they nibbled at size of magazines, etc. who knows. It sure opened my eyes as to the fact Dems won't stop when it come to my freedoms. What I do know is because of this legislature, I came out of the activist closet. And for that I am thankful.
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 5, 2019 12:55:48 GMT -5
First, only a paranoid owner would believe the government is going to take your guns away. Stop listening to the NRA's fear tactics. You missed my point. I'm not scared of someone carrying a pistol for their protection, seen or concealed. It's the showoff carrying a long gun over their shoulder in inappropriate places. Like anywhere that isn't a shooting range or hunting area. The new face of the DNC, Beto, outright says it, Every member of the DNC Presidential candidates want to, but tippy toe around it, trying to act a little less aggressive! Meaning gun reforms = DNC confiscation!! On Monday’s episode of The View, while the cast was doing a postmortem on O’Rourke’s failed campaign, host Joy Behar chastised the former Texas Representative for revealing exactly what NRA has been saying for years is the ultimate goal of anti-gun extremists.
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’
Those aren't your words. No way are those your words. Are you going to provide a link as per the CoC?
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Dec 5, 2019 12:57:02 GMT -5
It doesn't much matter what the presidential candidates say. They can't take your guns without a shit ton of legislation, which has to get through the House and the Senate. Then it will have to get through the Supreme Court. Even moderate democrats won't support it, nor will a single republican, not to mention the conservative court. It just wont happen. So, maybe we should stop sounding the imaginary alarm. We will once politicians leave it alone. Maybe.
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 5, 2019 12:58:08 GMT -5
If you want an AR-15 then join the military. It's not for hunting or protection. It's just for the ego of pro gun people, to walk into fast food places and show off. Mine's bigger then yours. No AR 15's in the military, M16's, M4's maybe. If I walk in to a fast food place, you would never know I was carrying! What scares you the most? one you can not see or one you can?
What kind of hell-hole do you live in, where you need to be armed to buy a cheeseburger?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 5, 2019 14:59:45 GMT -5
No AR 15's in the military, M16's, M4's maybe. If I walk in to a fast food place, you would never know I was carrying! What scares you the most? one you can not see or one you can?
What kind of hell-hole do you live in, where you need to be armed to buy a cheeseburger? the kind that lies south of Canada.
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Post by mroped on Dec 5, 2019 15:03:36 GMT -5
Packing anything bigger than a pistol or revolver is noticeable so yeah, I for one would know! Unless Ofcourse you carry around a guitar case or cello!😂
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 22:10:39 GMT -5
The new face of the DNC, Beto, outright says it, Every member of the DNC Presidential candidates want to, but tippy toe around it, trying to act a little less aggressive! Meaning gun reforms = DNC confiscation!! On Monday’s episode of The View, while the cast was doing a postmortem on O’Rourke’s failed campaign, host Joy Behar chastised the former Texas Representative for revealing exactly what NRA has been saying for years is the ultimate goal of anti-gun extremists.
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’
Those aren't your words. No way are those your words. Are you going to provide a link as per the CoC? Here you go welts,, My pleasure to present this to you!!
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 5, 2019 22:33:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure anyone doubted she said it. I did, however, indicate she doesn't matter.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 6, 2019 11:19:01 GMT -5
Stop listening to them and educate yourself on what legislative changes would have to be made to take your guns away. It will never happen. These renegade armed citizen groups worry me more. View host Joy Behar,, broadcasting to America, this is not the NRA, It is Liberal America!! that has a platform to reach millions!! Telling the candidates to lie about their agenda!
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’ Aww, OC, please. Joy Behar is a comedienne. That's all she is. We've certainly got some yahoos in congress but I don't think any of them, liberal or conservative, are going to take their marching orders from a virtual unknown from a television show. She's certainly not worth 4 exclamation points. Most folks I know, from both sides of the aisle, have no interest in eliminating gun ownership by citizens. Most folks I know have at least one gun, as do I. Over-dramatizing the situation doesn't help. It does more harm than good.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 6, 2019 11:34:53 GMT -5
Behar said that because she understands that a subject such as “gun control” if addressed with the wrong words or to the wrong crowd is political suicide. I believe that Beto did that in a moment of anger and then refused to back on his word. He also knew that he stands little chance of wining the nomination. His background, his position and the fact that he lives in a border state would make him a prime candidate for Homeland Security. He’s playing the long game! Yes, we know that the AR15 is not being used in the military but was created for that purpose. At least that’s what all the paperwork of the designer/creator is saying. Armalite was suppose to replace the M16 but it failed because it doesn’t fare well in harsh conditions. in any event, AR15 it’s something that I see as property of a gun range/club where people go, check one out, shoot it under close supervision and then deposit it back in the safe. By no stretch of imagination belongs in the corner of the room of a guy that sees dead people or thinks the dogs were sent by aliens to spy on us. By all means lie to your constituency so you can do your actual agenda. That is what is great about Trump. You get exactly what he said he is. That is why he will win again.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 6, 2019 11:37:08 GMT -5
View host Joy Behar,, broadcasting to America, this is not the NRA, It is Liberal America!! that has a platform to reach millions!! Telling the candidates to lie about their agenda!
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’ Aww, OC, please. Joy Behar is a comedienne. That's all she is. We've certainly got some yahoos in congress but I don't think any of them, liberal or conservative, are going to take their marching orders from a virtual unknown from a television show. She's certainly not worth 4 exclamation points. Most folks I know, from both sides of the aisle, have no interest in eliminating gun ownership by citizens. Most folks I know have at least one gun, as do I. Over-dramatizing the situation doesn't help. It does more harm than good. She basically stoped being funny after appearing on "The Apprentice". She is still pissed Donald did not let her win. A woman scorned.........
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 6, 2019 11:41:23 GMT -5
Aww, OC, please. Joy Behar is a comedienne. That's all she is. We've certainly got some yahoos in congress but I don't think any of them, liberal or conservative, are going to take their marching orders from a virtual unknown from a television show. She's certainly not worth 4 exclamation points. Most folks I know, from both sides of the aisle, have no interest in eliminating gun ownership by citizens. Most folks I know have at least one gun, as do I. Over-dramatizing the situation doesn't help. It does more harm than good. She basically stoped being funny after appearing on "The Apprentice". She is still pissed Donald did not let her win. A woman scorned......... I don't care for her either, VB; however, I don't know what motivates her and won't claim to do so. My point is simply that her political viewpoint is of absolutely no importance overall, whether couched in comedy, or not.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 6, 2019 11:43:45 GMT -5
Behar said that because she understands that a subject such as “gun control” if addressed with the wrong words or to the wrong crowd is political suicide. I believe that Beto did that in a moment of anger and then refused to back on his word. He also knew that he stands little chance of wining the nomination. His background, his position and the fact that he lives in a border state would make him a prime candidate for Homeland Security. He’s playing the long game! Yes, we know that the AR15 is not being used in the military but was created for that purpose. At least that’s what all the paperwork of the designer/creator is saying. Armalite was suppose to replace the M16 but it failed because it doesn’t fare well in harsh conditions. in any event, AR15 it’s something that I see as property of a gun range/club where people go, check one out, shoot it under close supervision and then deposit it back in the safe. By no stretch of imagination belongs in the corner of the room of a guy that sees dead people or thinks the dogs were sent by aliens to spy on us. By all means lie to your constituency so you can do your actual agenda. That is what is great about Trump. You get exactly what he said he is. That is why he will win again. You get what Trump says... Like repealing Obamacare and giving us beautiful new healthcare that is cheap - yet the only policy even suggested is to import Canadian drugs. Did that even happen? Is the wall built? Did Mexico pay for it?
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 6, 2019 11:45:22 GMT -5
Behar said that because she understands that a subject such as “gun control” if addressed with the wrong words or to the wrong crowd is political suicide. I believe that Beto did that in a moment of anger and then refused to back on his word. He also knew that he stands little chance of wining the nomination. His background, his position and the fact that he lives in a border state would make him a prime candidate for Homeland Security. He’s playing the long game! Yes, we know that the AR15 is not being used in the military but was created for that purpose. At least that’s what all the paperwork of the designer/creator is saying. Armalite was suppose to replace the M16 but it failed because it doesn’t fare well in harsh conditions. in any event, AR15 it’s something that I see as property of a gun range/club where people go, check one out, shoot it under close supervision and then deposit it back in the safe. By no stretch of imagination belongs in the corner of the room of a guy that sees dead people or thinks the dogs were sent by aliens to spy on us. By all means lie to your constituency so you can do your actual agenda. That is what is great about Trump. You get exactly what he said he is.That is why he will win again. A liar? Just some of trump's lies: All False statements involving Donald Trump
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Post by mroped on Dec 6, 2019 12:22:53 GMT -5
By all means lie to your constituency so you can do your actual agenda. That is what is great about Trump. You get exactly what he said he is. That is why he will win again. It would be great if at least I’d understand what he’s saying but 99.9% of the time he’s not even speaking English or any legible language. There is no beginning or end to his sentences so practically just a word scramble. I’m not good with that so no, I do not get what he’s saying figuratively or otherwise!
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 6, 2019 13:01:39 GMT -5
Behar said that because she understands that a subject such as “gun control” if addressed with the wrong words or to the wrong crowd is political suicide. I believe that Beto did that in a moment of anger and then refused to back on his word. He also knew that he stands little chance of wining the nomination. His background, his position and the fact that he lives in a border state would make him a prime candidate for Homeland Security. He’s playing the long game! Yes, we know that the AR15 is not being used in the military but was created for that purpose. At least that’s what all the paperwork of the designer/creator is saying. Armalite was suppose to replace the M16 but it failed because it doesn’t fare well in harsh conditions. in any event, AR15 it’s something that I see as property of a gun range/club where people go, check one out, shoot it under close supervision and then deposit it back in the safe. By no stretch of imagination belongs in the corner of the room of a guy that sees dead people or thinks the dogs were sent by aliens to spy on us. By all means lie to your constituency so you can do your actual agenda. That is what is great about Trump. You get exactly what he said he is.That is why he will win again. Lol! So, he finally got Mexico to pay for the wall, like he promised? Is Hillary locked up, like he promised? How's that great new healthcare, where everyone is covered, coming along? Didn't he also promise to release his taxes once he's elected? Now he's hanging on to them like grim death and screaming bloody murder. He also said he wouldn't play golf. How many millions of taxpayers dollars have gone to paying for his golf trips?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 14:44:22 GMT -5
It doesn't much matter what the presidential candidates say. They can't take your guns without a shit ton of legislation, which has to get through the House and the Senate. Then it will have to get through the Supreme Court. Even moderate democrats won't support it, nor will a single republican, not to mention the conservative court. It just wont happen. So, maybe we should stop sounding the imaginary alarm. Exactly ! If it's not a Constitutional Amendment, over ruling the Second Amendment, guns aren't going anywhere.
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Post by dondub on Dec 6, 2019 14:59:03 GMT -5
It doesn't much matter what the presidential candidates say. They can't take your guns without a shit ton of legislation, which has to get through the House and the Senate. Then it will have to get through the Supreme Court. Even moderate democrats won't support it, nor will a single republican, not to mention the conservative court. It just wont happen. So, maybe we should stop sounding the imaginary alarm. Exactly ! If it's not a Constitutional Amendment, over ruling the Second Amendment, guns aren't going anywhere. Thank you. Now please help all the gun nutters get a handle on that.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 6, 2019 20:55:54 GMT -5
She basically stoped being funny after appearing on "The Apprentice". She is still pissed Donald did not let her win. A woman scorned......... I don't care for her either, VB; however, I don't know what motivates her and won't claim to do so. My point is simply that her political viewpoint is of absolutely no importance overall, whether couched in comedy, or not. I would say the "View" is a strong following over politics,, Politics gets heavily debated there, Lot of vocal Liberals, and McCain!
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 17, 2019 20:54:13 GMT -5
Here I am pretty sure that no one has any idea how many guns are out there. Here is another number thrown out there.
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