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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 3, 2019 23:46:40 GMT -5
I guess the question is, should you be buying a gun at this point? If a Democrat gets elected, they have all and I mean all have said, the will take your guns!! First will be the AR 15s, then when that works the semiautomatic hand guns,
levie super taxes on ammo, Storage taxes, storage inspections! Maybe it is a good time to sell all of the "Registered" guns! A note to Dezii,a while back you asked about what military weapons I had, I
missed one, It is a Chinese military SKS, which is really rare, not the current
Chinese knockoffs,,, complete with a composite folding stock, flash suspressor,
bypod, sniper scope, 30 round mag.
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Post by dondub on Dec 4, 2019 1:13:51 GMT -5
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 4, 2019 8:48:04 GMT -5
Every one of them said that any thing to do with an AR15 will be gone!! front and center,
Beto said was not coy about it, he was shouting it from the highest mountain, the others a little more under their breath! Once it starts with the AR15, the rest will go down like domino's!!!
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 4, 2019 8:56:19 GMT -5
Wasn't Beto one of the first to drop out because of lack of support?
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Post by busymom on Dec 4, 2019 8:59:00 GMT -5
The murder rate is also up in the large city near to us. It's nothing to be happy about. It's not just "threatening" people who are getting shot. Even the elderly are being targeted now.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Dec 4, 2019 11:46:42 GMT -5
If you want an AR-15 then join the military. It's not for hunting or protection. It's just for the ego of pro gun people, to walk into fast food places and show off. Mine's bigger then yours.
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Post by mroped on Dec 4, 2019 12:05:32 GMT -5
OC a Chinese SKS regardless knock off or what not it’s still a piece of crap! The bipod and so on are just to make it look fancy and the scope is useless on an 18” barrel especially when the weapon is highly imprecise. Now, if you’d want a good Chinese made weapon you should be looking for an RPK 7.62! It comes with a bipod and flash suppressor and you can install a scope. All in all, you didn’t miss out on anything! What would you do with that weapon anyways? Me think that a hunting rifle tuned properly and with the right person on a trigger can produce just as much damage as anything automatic when it comes to a confrontation. Just spreading bullets around it might be enough to piss of someone that can shoot a rifle!😂
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Dec 4, 2019 12:33:34 GMT -5
Wasn't Beto one of the first to drop out because of lack of support? Yes. Proud to say this is a friend and fellow business owner: To be fair, he does hush the crowd several times in order to let her be heard.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Dec 4, 2019 12:34:46 GMT -5
OC a Chinese SKS regardless knock off or what not it’s still a piece of crap! The bipod and so on are just to make it look fancy and the scope is useless on an 18” barrel especially when the weapon is highly imprecise. Now, if you’d want a good Chinese made weapon you should be looking for an RPK 7.62! It comes with a bipod and flash suppressor and you can install a scope. All in all, you didn’t miss out on anything! What would you do with that weapon anyways? Me think that a hunting rifle tuned properly and with the right person on a trigger can produce just as much damage as anything automatic when it comes to a confrontation. Just spreading bullets around it might be enough to piss of someone that can shoot a rifle!😂 Agreed, but it still fires nicely.
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Post by mroped on Dec 4, 2019 16:29:44 GMT -5
Iggy a Tokarev 8mm pistol shoots nicer than a 9mm Parrabellum Berreta. A Tokarev rarely hits the target and sprays the shells while a Berretta is always on point and ejects in an area of 6-8” overall. Shooting nice and being a good weapon have nothing to do with each other. I would never buy something like that if it is not useful! If I wanna collect junk I could talk to the junkyard!
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Dec 4, 2019 17:05:42 GMT -5
mroped, good to know about the Tokarev. In the past I've been known to appreciate the Barreta 9mm, and will check out the Tokarev if given the opportunity.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 4, 2019 23:55:13 GMT -5
It doesn't much matter what the presidential candidates say. They can't take your guns without a shit ton of legislation, which has to get through the House and the Senate. Then it will have to get through the Supreme Court. Even moderate democrats won't support it, nor will a single republican, not to mention the conservative court. It just wont happen. So, maybe we should stop sounding the imaginary alarm.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 0:50:27 GMT -5
OC a Chinese SKS regardless knock off or what not it’s still a piece of crap! The bipod and so on are just to make it look fancy and the scope is useless on an 18” barrel especially when the weapon is highly imprecise. Now, if you’d want a good Chinese made weapon you should be looking for an RPK 7.62! It comes with a bipod and flash suppressor and you can install a scope. All in all, you didn’t miss out on anything! What would you do with that weapon anyways? Me think that a hunting rifle tuned properly and with the right person on a trigger can produce just as much damage as anything automatic when it comes to a confrontation. Just spreading bullets around it might be enough to piss of someone that can shoot a rifle!😂 This SKS is a much older model, It was machined not stamped, I had to measure the length of the barrel, 20 1/2 " the original stock is gone replaced with a folding synthetic stock,
The scope (a piece of junk) and bipod, were added, before I picked it up. The gun itself is much nicer that the Century Arms "Parachute model" i also have,, that has a much shorter barrel. Afar as accuracy is involved, I have several others that far more accurate, they are not SKS's. If you were here you would laugh at me, The SKS was buried way in the back, now I have all these guns to put back in there, Each one has to sit in a spot so they all fit in!
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 0:55:22 GMT -5
If you want an AR-15 then join the military. It's not for hunting or protection. It's just for the ego of pro gun people, to walk into fast food places and show off. Mine's bigger then yours. No AR 15's in the military, M16's, M4's maybe. If I walk in to a fast food place, you would never know I was carrying! What scares you the most? one you can not see or one you can?
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 1:00:49 GMT -5
It doesn't much matter what the presidential candidates say. They can't take your guns without a shit ton of legislation, which has to get through the House and the Senate. Then it will have to get through the Supreme Court. Even moderate democrats won't support it, nor will a single republican, not to mention the conservative court. It just wont happen. So, maybe we should stop sounding the imaginary alarm. They have all said it they all mean it, That said, who is going to win between Kelly and McSally? Kelly is a strong candidate, Here in AZ the only thing that may not get him elected is his rightfull stance on guns!
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 1:18:00 GMT -5
Here it is right on day time TV!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! don't say this out loud!!
On Monday’s episode of The View, while the cast was doing a postmortem on O’Rourke’s failed campaign, host Joy Behar chastised the former Texas Representative for revealing exactly what NRA has been saying for years is the ultimate goal of anti-gun extremists. Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’
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Post by mroped on Dec 5, 2019 8:06:54 GMT -5
Behar said that because she understands that a subject such as “gun control” if addressed with the wrong words or to the wrong crowd is political suicide. I believe that Beto did that in a moment of anger and then refused to back on his word. He also knew that he stands little chance of wining the nomination. His background, his position and the fact that he lives in a border state would make him a prime candidate for Homeland Security. He’s playing the long game!
Yes, we know that the AR15 is not being used in the military but was created for that purpose. At least that’s what all the paperwork of the designer/creator is saying. Armalite was suppose to replace the M16 but it failed because it doesn’t fare well in harsh conditions. in any event, AR15 it’s something that I see as property of a gun range/club where people go, check one out, shoot it under close supervision and then deposit it back in the safe. By no stretch of imagination belongs in the corner of the room of a guy that sees dead people or thinks the dogs were sent by aliens to spy on us.
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Post by swamp on Dec 5, 2019 8:58:39 GMT -5
I have one gun. That's enough. I don't want anymore.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Dec 5, 2019 9:46:12 GMT -5
If you want an AR-15 then join the military. It's not for hunting or protection. It's just for the ego of pro gun people, to walk into fast food places and show off. Mine's bigger then yours. No AR 15's in the military, M16's, M4's maybe. If I walk in to a fast food place, you would never know I was carrying! What scares you the most? one you can not see or one you can?
First, only a paranoid owner would believe the government is going to take your guns away. Stop listening to the NRA's fear tactics. You missed my point. I'm not scared of someone carrying a pistol for their protection, seen or concealed. It's the showoff carrying a long gun over their shoulder in inappropriate places. Like anywhere that isn't a shooting range or hunting area.
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Post by dezii on Dec 5, 2019 10:06:38 GMT -5
I have one gun. That's enough. I don't want anymore. Got u one better...two...smuggled back... {let them catch me..} Colt 1911 .45 Service Weapon..…..carried years back when I was into over night hikes Appalachia trail in New England....mostly for protection wild dogs..but never otherwise beyond firing at outdoor range a few times a year in Wallingford...... Now buried somewhere in closet..offered to Son and Daughter but not interested..Possible when I am gone... {Actually Daughter and Son in Law visiting me for a couple days on 19th and 20th...will offer again.} Today it's too much weapon for me, not that I need a weapon, or ever did beyond service time...Now there a weapon was needed sorry to say.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 10:07:18 GMT -5
No AR 15's in the military, M16's, M4's maybe. If I walk in to a fast food place, you would never know I was carrying! What scares you the most? one you can not see or one you can?
First, only a paranoid owner would believe the government is going to take your guns away. Stop listening to the NRA's fear tactics. You missed my point. I'm not scared of someone carrying a pistol for their protection, seen or concealed. It's the showoff carrying a long gun over their shoulder in inappropriate places. Like anywhere that isn't a shooting range or hunting area. The new face of the DNC, Beto, outright says it, Every member of the DNC Presidential candidates want to, but tippy toe around it, trying to act a little less aggressive! Meaning gun reforms = DNC confiscation!! On Monday’s episode of The View, while the cast was doing a postmortem on O’Rourke’s failed campaign, host Joy Behar chastised the former Texas Representative for revealing exactly what NRA has been saying for years is the ultimate goal of anti-gun extremists.
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 10:08:29 GMT -5
I don't know how you can make it any clearer than that!!
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Post by dezii on Dec 5, 2019 10:09:03 GMT -5
I guess if more weapons being sold the following stats will just grow higher...Something to be proud of...another stat that shows how USA is superior to all others.. A bit over 36 thousand deaths...lots of wounded too...kids too...believe a few bad guys too plus suicides...kind of runs the gauntlet... ================================ www.gunviolencearchive.org/
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Post by dezii on Dec 5, 2019 10:18:57 GMT -5
First, only a paranoid owner would believe the government is going to take your guns away. Stop listening to the NRA's fear tactics. You missed my point. I'm not scared of someone carrying a pistol for their protection, seen or concealed. It's the showoff carrying a long gun over their shoulder in inappropriate places. Like anywhere that isn't a shooting range or hunting area. The new face of the DNC, Beto, outright says it, Every member of the DNC Presidential candidates want to, but tippy toe around it, trying to act a little less aggressive! Meaning gun reforms = DNC confiscation!! On Monday’s episode of The View, while the cast was doing a postmortem on O’Rourke’s failed campaign, host Joy Behar chastised the former Texas Representative for revealing exactly what NRA has been saying for years is the ultimate goal of anti-gun extremists.
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’
If so afraid of Beto just don't vote for him or any others who come out and say they favor confiscation...but it seems the majority of Americans {liberals and conservatives} are in favor of some rules..back ground checks, waiting periods, certain types of weapons...etc, etc...NRA seem to be against any and all those type rules...Just saying.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Dec 5, 2019 10:21:17 GMT -5
I don't know how you can make it any clearer than that!! Stop listening to them and educate yourself on what legislative changes would have to be made to take your guns away. It will never happen. These renegade armed citizen groups worry me more.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 5, 2019 10:25:52 GMT -5
It doesn't much matter what the presidential candidates say. They can't take your guns without a shit ton of legislation, which has to get through the House and the Senate. Then it will have to get through the Supreme Court. Even moderate democrats won't support it, nor will a single republican, not to mention the conservative court. It just wont happen. So, maybe we should stop sounding the imaginary alarm. They have all said it they all mean it, That said, who is going to win between Kelly and McSally? Kelly is a strong candidate, Here in AZ the only thing that may not get him elected is his rightfull stance on guns!
So what if they mean it. That isn't how our government works. Even if they put in am executive order, the courts would throw it out. There will probably be some legislation. Stronger background checks, or whatever- but there will NOT be a gun seizure.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 5, 2019 10:29:00 GMT -5
First, only a paranoid owner would believe the government is going to take your guns away. Stop listening to the NRA's fear tactics. You missed my point. I'm not scared of someone carrying a pistol for their protection, seen or concealed. It's the showoff carrying a long gun over their shoulder in inappropriate places. Like anywhere that isn't a shooting range or hunting area. The new face of the DNC, Beto, outright says it, Every member of the DNC Presidential candidates want to, but tippy toe around it, trying to act a little less aggressive! Meaning gun reforms = DNC confiscation!! On Monday’s episode of The View, while the cast was doing a postmortem on O’Rourke’s failed campaign, host Joy Behar chastised the former Texas Representative for revealing exactly what NRA has been saying for years is the ultimate goal of anti-gun extremists.
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’
🤣🤣 New face of the DNC = Beto. He was the very first candidate to drop out. He is not even close to being party leadership, much less the policy maker.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 5, 2019 10:30:20 GMT -5
I don't know how you can make it any clearer than that!! Stop listening to them and educate yourself on what legislative changes would have to be made to take your guns away. It will never happen. These renegade armed citizen groups worry me more. View host Joy Behar,, broadcasting to America, this is not the NRA, It is Liberal America!! that has a platform to reach millions!! Telling the candidates to lie about their agenda!
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’
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Post by dezii on Dec 5, 2019 10:35:30 GMT -5
I don't know how you can make it any clearer than that!! Stop listening to them and educate yourself on what legislative changes would have to be made to take your guns away. It will never happen. These renegade armed citizen groups worry me more.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 5, 2019 10:39:18 GMT -5
Stop listening to them and educate yourself on what legislative changes would have to be made to take your guns away. It will never happen. These renegade armed citizen groups worry me more. View host Joy Behar,, broadcasting to America, this is not the NRA, It is Liberal America!! that has a platform to reach millions!! Telling the candidates to lie about their agenda!
Perhaps as a warning to the remaining Democrat candidates, Behar stated, ‘They should not tell everything they’re going to do. If you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take them away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.’ When did Joy Behr become President, or a Senator or a judge? She is just some dolt who gets paid to say unfounded opinions on television. She says what she thinks will improve ratings. Stop using her as a clear example of what the elected officials will be able to constitutionally accomplish. There will not be a government seizure of guns in your lifetime.
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