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Post by tbop77 on Dec 4, 2019 10:33:22 GMT -5
Yea, I remember when my Marine Grandson come to me needing to borrow $6000 deductible, for surgery. No deductible ,, no surgery! Finally was taken care by the VA, as it should have been since the problem was cause while in service. Under Obamacare, no deductible, no surgery! Isn't that what family is for? I'd gladly loan my granddaughter $6k if that is all she needed to have surgery. Guess you'd rather sit here and brag about all your whoo-hoo money. Typical conservative.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 4, 2019 10:38:21 GMT -5
Maybe but it's the truth. If Canada ceased to exist most Americans would not even notice as it would affect us little to none at all. You would if you’re sitting in the dark because our US generated electricity isn’t enough to meet the demand. You also will have a lumber shortage, so the cost of housing will skyrocket. Ednkris should have no problem with stopping the construction of the Keystone pipeline.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 10:50:51 GMT -5
You would if you’re sitting in the dark because our US generated electricity isn’t enough to meet the demand. You also will have a lumber shortage, so the cost of housing will skyrocket. Ednkris should have no problem with stopping the construction of the Keystone pipeline. especially in light of the "tremendous" number of permanent jobs it created in the US
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 4, 2019 15:15:08 GMT -5
Yea, I remember when my Marine Grandson come to me needing to borrow $6000 deductible, for surgery. No deductible ,, no surgery! Finally was taken care by the VA, as it should have been since the problem was cause while in service. Under Obamacare, no deductible, no surgery! Isn't that what family is for? I'd gladly loan my granddaughter $6k if that is all she needed to have surgery. Guess you'd rather sit here and brag about all your whoo-hoo money. Typical conservative. if you only knew me in person! As far as my Grandson, I told him to go back to the VA, which he did , it was taken care of! back to the point, because you have Obamacare, does not mean you get treated!
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 4, 2019 15:17:33 GMT -5
In the Real World Under Obamacare, you go to the ER with kidney failure.
You do not have the $6000 deductible, guess what happens to you!!
You don't get treated without Obamacare either. Why, I can walk in to a Dr. office say I will pay cash, They will give me a discounted treatment! That is how I go to the dentist.
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Post by swamp on Dec 4, 2019 15:27:37 GMT -5
You don't get treated without Obamacare either. Why, I can walk in to a Dr. office say I will pay cash, They will give me a discounted treatment! That is how I go to the dentist.
You're not making sense. You were complaining that if you didn't have the $6,000 deductible under an ACA policy, you can't get treated. You didn't get treated before either. You can still pay cash, just like you always did. It's how I go to the dentist too.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 4, 2019 15:42:34 GMT -5
In the Real World Under Obamacare, you go to the ER with kidney failure.
You do not have the $6000 deductible, guess what happens to you!!
You don't get treated without Obamacare either. I had to go back, look at what you had said. You don't get treated without Obamacare either.
Yes you can, you need to pay cash. Yes I know a lot of people don't have money, At least here in AZ, if you truly don't have money, we have ACCESS, which give even better treatment than ACA.
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Post by Opti on Dec 4, 2019 16:46:20 GMT -5
That's bullshit. The hospitals just stabilize you and then send you home. Try going to the ER if you have kidney failure and need dialysis. Try going to the ER for diabetes treatment. Without insurance, you're out of luck, and a LOT of people don't have insurance. You're so full of crap. You think that's what really happens....pre aca I know of 2 people who had life saving heart surgery one was jobless the other had a job no ins. She is correct. There is a law that was enacted that requires hospitals to treat certain heart conditions. The patient is not allowed to opt out. I have a friend hoping to avoid being taken to the hospital when his pacemaker battery dies. He has huge hospital debt from before due to this law. Hospitals are allowed to turn away people with other life endangering conditions.
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Post by Opti on Dec 4, 2019 16:49:40 GMT -5
He promised to establish a commission on radical Islam. There is no commission No instead he destroyed it. Something that the previous administration helped foster My guess is radical Islam is still around. The decimation of the leadership of various terrorist organizations does not mean radical Islam is gone. This issue was addressed by W's, Obama's and Trump's administration. Not being against Islam, is not the same as fostering radical Islam.
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Post by Opti on Dec 4, 2019 16:55:18 GMT -5
Damn right and all Americans ….except the skin heads and anti white, black, Jews, Latin's, brown, yellow, any who are different....know this. Four more years of the last soap opera with no constraints on him at all...Can't count on the pubs as we have seen and if he wins, Dems have shot their load...end of eight years of this narcistick one...You won't recognize America... Their standing in the world as the #1 will be overtaken by China and USA a very strong second class nation, with influence of a second rate.. Kind of like France, England, Italy and such..but a bit more because of the strong military..hugh nuclear..but realistically, all know never to be used .. {but slowly decreasing of strong military as it becomes harder and harder to financially support...our deficit and raising interest costs draining our assets, finally catching up to us and interest rates starting to climb a bit...even a slight increase, on our debt, unsustainable IMHO} We were already looked at as a second class nation since the last pity full administration you know red line in the sand with no balls to back it up. We are America tbe leader now all knows it. You want help pay for it I think this is the POV of many conservatives, but it doesn't make it true. What is true is most other countries do not see us as a leader, especially Russia. Putin sees us as a nation that can be manipulated because of our current President. As does Turkey's Erdogan. They've had notable success in doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 18:01:53 GMT -5
We were already looked at as a second class nation since the last pity full administration you know red line in the sand with no balls to back it up. We are America tbe leader now all knows it. You want help pay for it I think this is the POV of many conservatives, but it doesn't make it true. What is true is most other countries do not see us as a leader, especially Russia. Putin sees us as a nation that can be manipulated because of our current President. As does Turkey's Erdogan. They've had notable success in doing so.Spot on!
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 4, 2019 20:48:24 GMT -5
We were already looked at as a second class nation since the last pity full administration you know red line in the sand with no balls to back it up. We are America tbe leader now all knows it. You want help pay for it I think this is the POV of many conservatives, but it doesn't make it true. What is true is most other countries do not see us as a leader, especially Russia. Putin sees us as a nation that can be manipulated because of our current President. As does Turkey's Erdogan. They've had notable success in doing so. you know what hasn't changed? America is still the most FEARED nation on Earth.
but what is different now, is that we have a rather unhinged man behind the big red button.
that should really scare EVERYONE, including Americans.
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