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Post by happyhoix on Nov 30, 2019 21:11:58 GMT -5
Prior to the 2020 election, and he's been talking to other WH staffers who might do the same thing - tell Americans what a shitty job their president is doing running the country, and what a toxic place the WH is right now.
www.cbsnews.com/news/anonymous-book-warning-reddit-ama-op-ed-author-pledges-to-reveal-identity-2019-11-26/
If this happens, what impact do you think it will it have on the 2020 election?
I'm not sure what I think - I think it depends on whether it's a stellar GOP workhorse with an excellent background vs the guy who fetches the diet coke to the oval office.
Also depends on what evidence he brings and if any other WH aides stick with him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 21:46:30 GMT -5
There have been other stellar GOP workhorse appointees whose praises were sung by 45 and who had excellent backgrounds. They've since resigned. It hasn't made a difference.
There have been senators and congressmen who've been GOP voices of reason who've not run for re-election. It hasn't made a difference.
The ones who are hanging on? Let's give it a name and call it the Hindenburg Syndrome. When that airship caught fire, there were passengers who jumped ship and died.
There were others who figured they could hang on until they were closer to the ground, then jump and hope to escape even though they'd suffer injuries.
Then there were those who figured they'd hang on until the very end just in case they could survive, then run like hell to safety. After all, it was the Hindenburg. The cache of being a survivor of the Hindenburg!
That list pretty much takes care of those in his administration and those elected officials who decline to make any waves. They died; they're dying and on life support; or they survived, singed, burned, and forevermore disfigured, but they survived
And there never was another Hindenburg.
ETA: And a haha...we can refer to 45's reign as the Reign of the Hindenburg.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 30, 2019 21:54:46 GMT -5
There have been other stellar GOP workhorse appointees whose praises were sung by 45 and who had excellent backgrounds. They've since resigned. It hasn't made a difference. There have been senators and congressmen who've been GOP voices of reason who've not run for re-election. It hasn't made a difference. The ones who are hanging on? Let's give it a name and call it the Hindenburg Syndrome. When that airship caught fire, there were passengers who jumped ship and died. There were others who figured they could hang on until they were closer to the ground, then jump and hope to escape even though they'd suffer injuries. Then there were those who figured they'd hang on until the very end just in case they could survive, then run like hell to safety. After all, it was the Hindenburg. The cache of being a survivor of the Hindenburg! That list pretty much takes care of those in his administration and those elected officials who decline to make any waves. They died; they're dying and on life support; or they survived, singed, burned, and forevermore disfigured, but they survived And there never was another Hindenburg. ETA: And a haha...we can refer to 45's reign as the Reign of the Hindenburg. I wish I had some argument that things aren’t that bad, but I very much fear you are right...
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Post by dezii on Nov 30, 2019 23:43:06 GMT -5
Prior to the 2020 election, and he's been talking to other WH staffers who might do the same thing - tell Americans what a shitty job their president is doing running the country, and what a toxic place the WH is right now.
www.cbsnews.com/news/anonymous-book-warning-reddit-ama-op-ed-author-pledges-to-reveal-identity-2019-11-26/
If this happens, what impact do you think it will it have on the 2020 election?
I'm not sure what I think - I think it depends on whether it's a stellar GOP workhorse with an excellent background vs the guy who fetches the diet coke to the oval office.
Also depends on what evidence he brings and if any other WH aides stick with him.
I think just about all know he's doing a S****y job...just doesn't make any difference to them... Thus it means Dems have to turn out and vote in record #'s...independent, unregistered by party have to decide in big #'s that enough is enough...and in some of those Red States...get a little lucky...possible Florida...a State or two down in Dixie land...Maine and New Hampshire come back to the fold...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 7:28:37 GMT -5
"I wish I had some argument that things aren’t that bad, but I very much fear you are right..." Gardening Grandma, it depends on whether those who were with him in the beginning (not many of the originals left!) but have changed their minds are willing to revoke their Faustian bargains and step forward. There really won't be any distinction in being one of fewer and fewer sycophants, but there's still that Hindenburg effect...those who stay "just in case..." It's easier to research how many or the originals are gone than how many are left. At last count, I've found about 40 who have either jumped ship or been shoved overboard, 34 of the former, six of the latter.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 1, 2019 9:22:23 GMT -5
Prior to the 2020 election, and he's been talking to other WH staffers who might do the same thing - tell Americans what a shitty job their president is doing running the country, and what a toxic place the WH is right now.
www.cbsnews.com/news/anonymous-book-warning-reddit-ama-op-ed-author-pledges-to-reveal-identity-2019-11-26/
If this happens, what impact do you think it will it have on the 2020 election?
I'm not sure what I think - I think it depends on whether it's a stellar GOP workhorse with an excellent background vs the guy who fetches the diet coke to the oval office.
Also depends on what evidence he brings and if any other WH aides stick with him.
What do you think is going to be different about this book, than the 40 some books before it? Only the fact that thru marketing that the use of "Anonymous" was only to get more people buying the book!! that's all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 10:54:05 GMT -5
OldCoyote, surely you're old enough to remember Deep Throat?
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 1, 2019 11:13:18 GMT -5
Prior to the 2020 election, and he's been talking to other WH staffers who might do the same thing - tell Americans what a shitty job their president is doing running the country, and what a toxic place the WH is right now.
www.cbsnews.com/news/anonymous-book-warning-reddit-ama-op-ed-author-pledges-to-reveal-identity-2019-11-26/
If this happens, what impact do you think it will it have on the 2020 election?
I'm not sure what I think - I think it depends on whether it's a stellar GOP workhorse with an excellent background vs the guy who fetches the diet coke to the oval office.
Also depends on what evidence he brings and if any other WH aides stick with him.
What do you think is going to be different about this book, than the 40 some books before it? Only the fact that thru marketing that the use of "Anonymous" was only to get more people buying the book!! that's all.
There will be no way to know the true impact of any of the events surrounding this Presidency until the votes are counted next November. But continuing to speak truth is all that can be done.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 12:19:11 GMT -5
billisonboard, this: continuing to speak truth is all that can be done.
OldCoyote, along with Deep Throat, we had Martha Mitchell, John Dean, the victims of the Saturday Night Massacre. People will walk in lock step with trump for just so long...
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Post by dezii on Dec 1, 2019 12:26:03 GMT -5
Prior to the 2020 election, and he's been talking to other WH staffers who might do the same thing - tell Americans what a shitty job their president is doing running the country, and what a toxic place the WH is right now.
www.cbsnews.com/news/anonymous-book-warning-reddit-ama-op-ed-author-pledges-to-reveal-identity-2019-11-26/
If this happens, what impact do you think it will it have on the 2020 election?
I'm not sure what I think - I think it depends on whether it's a stellar GOP workhorse with an excellent background vs the guy who fetches the diet coke to the oval office.
Also depends on what evidence he brings and if any other WH aides stick with him.
What do you think is going to be different about this book, than the 40 some books before it? Only the fact that thru marketing that the use of "Anonymous" was only to get more people buying the book!! that's all.
What is with your worship of this guy...Seems almost...hey, I said ALMOST , sexual in a way...You know it is more then just a few warts...yet your slobbering over him and defense of any and all transgressions is really scary...{really sad to see...also unnatural}
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 1, 2019 18:37:12 GMT -5
Prior to the 2020 election, and he's been talking to other WH staffers who might do the same thing - tell Americans what a shitty job their president is doing running the country, and what a toxic place the WH is right now.
www.cbsnews.com/news/anonymous-book-warning-reddit-ama-op-ed-author-pledges-to-reveal-identity-2019-11-26/
If this happens, what impact do you think it will it have on the 2020 election?
I'm not sure what I think - I think it depends on whether it's a stellar GOP workhorse with an excellent background vs the guy who fetches the diet coke to the oval office.
Also depends on what evidence he brings and if any other WH aides stick with him.
What do you think is going to be different about this book, than the 40 some books before it? Only the fact that thru marketing that the use of "Anonymous" was only to get more people buying the book!! that's all.
I'm not talking about his book. (Although it did knock Trump Jrs book off the NYT best seller list).
The person who wrote the book stated he would not remain anonymous much longer. He/she says he/she will openly and publicly confront Trump prior to the election. So instead of having the Trumpettes talking about how you can't ever believe someone who won't come forward in public, you'd have one of the WH aids step forward and start bashing Trump in public.
And he claims some other WH admin people might come with him.
All that may be nothing - this guy could be some crazy person in a basement somewhere, or his WH job might be polishing shoes in the Capital building, but say he IS a respected GOPer currently in Trump's close circles, and he shows his face in public about what he claims he saw in the book, what would be Trump's base's response then?
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 1, 2019 18:39:46 GMT -5
What do you think is going to be different about this book, than the 40 some books before it? Only the fact that thru marketing that the use of "Anonymous" was only to get more people buying the book!! that's all.
There will be no way to know the true impact of any of the events surrounding this Presidency until the votes are counted next November. But continuing to speak truth is all that can be done. The truth dictated by the DNC?? I wonder if it were possible for a third party candidate to emerge.. Holy crap, I am getting tired of the politics as we see today! Who's throat can we cut today politics??
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 1, 2019 18:47:40 GMT -5
What do you think is going to be different about this book, than the 40 some books before it? Only the fact that thru marketing that the use of "Anonymous" was only to get more people buying the book!! that's all.
I'm not talking about his book. (Although it did knock Trump Jrs book off the NYT best seller list).
The person who wrote the book stated he would not remain anonymous much longer. He/she says he/she will openly and publicly confront Trump prior to the election. So instead of having the Trumpettes talking about how you can't ever believe someone who won't come forward in public, you'd have one of the WH aids step forward and start bashing Trump in public.
And he claims some other WH admin people might come with him.
All that may be nothing - this guy could be some crazy person in a basement somewhere, or his WH job might be polishing shoes in the Capital building, but say he IS a respected GOPer currently in Trump's close circles, and he shows his face in public about what he claims he saw in the book, what would be Trump's base's response then?
Probably won't change anything, What part of Trump has not been exposed?? Let me say that again, What part of Trump have WE not heard about??
So suddenly,, an unknown if there was one in the first place, and an anonymous writer are all that you have?? and of course believe every word from every one but them,
if they actually exist. I mean the writer never has to come out , only collect money from book sales disappear!! wouldn't that be funny!!
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 1, 2019 18:54:56 GMT -5
Holly crap, I am getting tired of the politics as we see today! ... Good. May I suggest you stop supporting the man who has brought us here.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 1, 2019 19:13:34 GMT -5
As soon as you stop supporting your side in the discussion!
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 1, 2019 19:45:43 GMT -5
As soon as you stop supporting your side in the discussion! There is no discussion. There are lies, nane calling, and mockery from the President.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2019 20:39:12 GMT -5
billisonboard , this: continuing to speak truth is all that can be done.
OldCoyote , along with Deep Throat, we had Martha Mitchell, John Dean, the victims of the Saturday Night Massacre. People will walk in lock step with trump for just so long...
I think one of the great surprises of the impeachment hearings is that people have crossed the red line which Trump drew.
it is one of the things that has given me hope for the US in the last 2 years.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 1, 2019 21:18:21 GMT -5
Hey what is there not to like about Trump Presidency? All you need to do is ignore his tweeter fingers. Good things, I got a nice tax cut! My mutual funds are doing great! Price of fuel is not outrageous. My home is worth more every day! Business is really good! He got out of the terrible Global Warming money sucking pit!! Unemployment is so low, right now , if you do have a job , you don't want one.
Even my oldest grandson now have jobs, Holy Crap. If you don't thinks unemployment is low,,,, Even Colin Kaepernick got a job interview!!! But he blew it!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 21:24:04 GMT -5
SMH. In other words, it's all about the Benjamins. Not anything about respect, truth, tolerance, decency, compassion, so-called "Christian" values or even human values. Just the Benjamins
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Dec 1, 2019 21:26:06 GMT -5
I don't think the actual person who wrote the article is the same person who posted on Reddit. I think someone is trolling on Reddit.
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 1, 2019 21:31:09 GMT -5
Hey what is there not to like about Trump Presidency? All you need to do is ignore his tweeter fingers. Good things, I got a nice tax cut! My mutual funds are doing great! Price of fuel is not outrageous. My home is worth more every day! Business is really good! He got out of the terrible Global Warming money sucking pit!! Unemployment is so low, right now , if you do have a job , you don't want one.
Even my oldest grandson now have jobs, Holy Crap. If you don't thinks unemployment is low,,,, Even Colin Kaepernick got a job interview!!! But he blew it!!
"My husband provides me with a very comfortable lifestyle. I am happy as long as I ignore the beatings."
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Dec 1, 2019 21:35:22 GMT -5
Hey what is there not to like about Trump Presidency? All you need to do is ignore his tweeter fingers. Good things, I got a nice tax cut! My mutual funds are doing great! Price of fuel is not outrageous. My home is worth more every day! Business is really good! He got out of the terrible Global Warming money sucking pit!! Unemployment is so low, right now , if you do have a job , you don't want one.
Even my oldest grandson now have jobs, Holy Crap. If you don't thinks unemployment is low,,,, Even Colin Kaepernick got a job interview!!! But he blew it!!
I have a problem with making lying, name calling, objectification of women, and harassing anyone who isn't a white male part of our social mores. I don't think people in general should behave that way much less the POTUS. It's honestly made working with teenagers even harder than normal.
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Post by dondub on Dec 2, 2019 0:14:23 GMT -5
Hey what is there not to like about Trump Presidency? All you need to do is ignore his tweeter fingers. Good things, I got a nice tax cut! My mutual funds are doing great! Price of fuel is not outrageous. My home is worth more every day! Business is really good! He got out of the terrible Global Warming money sucking pit!! Unemployment is so low, right now , if you do have a job , you don't want one.
Even my oldest grandson now have jobs, Holy Crap. If you don't thinks unemployment is low,,,, Even Colin Kaepernick got a job interview!!! But he blew it!!
That amazing Obama recovery just keeps on ticking. What a fantastic steering of the economy he did for eight years that it continues. All after the Repo-Cons took the entire world’s economy to the edge of a financial abyss. Wow!
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 2, 2019 8:10:31 GMT -5
SMH. In other words, it's all about the Benjamins. Not anything about respect, truth, tolerance, decency, compassion, so-called "Christian" values or even human values. Just the Benjamins
So what if the president is forcing a foreign government into interfering in our election process, which is a violation of our Constitution? I have a job, I have a nice 401K, the fact that Putin is running our country through Trump and his minions is unimportant, as long as Putin doesn't mess with my net worth.
Speaking of Trump's minions, Louisiana's John Kennedy went on Meet the Press this weekend and claimed Hillary Clinton was directing the Ukraine's efforts to meddle in the 2016 election, despite the US intelligence community recently briefing lawmakers that attempts to frame Ukraine for Russian election meddling was a Russian propaganda campaign.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chuck-todd-to-gop-senator-youre-selling-the-same-argument-as-putin/ar-BBXBslq
But, I'm sure the fine people of Louisiana are pleased with their paychecks and new cars so they won't care that their representative is parroting Putin's propaganda...
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 2, 2019 8:37:08 GMT -5
Hey what is there not to like about Trump Presidency? All you need to do is ignore his tweeter fingers. Good things, I got a nice tax cut! My mutual funds are doing great! Price of fuel is not outrageous. My home is worth more every day! Business is really good! He got out of the terrible Global Warming money sucking pit!! Unemployment is so low, right now , if you do have a job , you don't want one.
Even my oldest grandson now have jobs, Holy Crap. If you don't thinks unemployment is low,,,, Even Colin Kaepernick got a job interview!!! But he blew it!!
That amazing Obama recovery just keeps on ticking. What a fantastic steering of the economy he did for eight years that it continues. All after the Repo-Cons took the entire world’s economy to the edge of a financial abyss. Wow!
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 2, 2019 8:42:06 GMT -5
Hey what is there not to like about Trump Presidency? All you need to do is ignore his tweeter fingers. Good things, I got a nice tax cut! My mutual funds are doing great! Price of fuel is not outrageous. My home is worth more every day! Business is really good! He got out of the terrible Global Warming money sucking pit!! Unemployment is so low, right now , if you do have a job , you don't want one.
Even my oldest grandson now have jobs, Holy Crap. If you don't thinks unemployment is low,,,, Even Colin Kaepernick got a job interview!!! But he blew it!!
I have a problem with making lying, name calling, objectification of women, and harassing anyone who isn't a white male part of our social mores. I don't think people in general should behave that way much less the POTUS. It's honestly made working with teenagers even harder than normal. It's honestly made working with teenagers even harder than normal.
Why is that Chloe?
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 2, 2019 8:59:01 GMT -5
Hey what is there not to like about Trump Presidency? All you need to do is ignore his tweeter fingers. Good things, I got a nice tax cut! My mutual funds are doing great! Price of fuel is not outrageous. My home is worth more every day! Business is really good! He got out of the terrible Global Warming money sucking pit!! Unemployment is so low, right now , if you do have a job , you don't want one.
Even my oldest grandson now have jobs, Holy Crap. If you don't thinks unemployment is low,,,, Even Colin Kaepernick got a job interview!!! But he blew it!!
"My husband provides me with a very comfortable lifestyle. I am happy as long as I ignore the beatings." I am sorry bills, that your husband beats you!! Truly sorry!! Here is how you handle that,, wait till he falls asleep from drinking too much,, Take a large needle and heavy thread, sew the blanket that you so carefully place over him, to the mattress,,
Sew it good, now that he is secure in that bed well sewed in!! take a ball pein hammer to the more sensitive parts of his body,, careful not to hit his head, you want to keep him conscience for this!! A few shots to the ribs, taking care to miss the heart,, move up and down making nice shots to the arms and legs, oh!!! don't forget a couple of particularly hard shots to the testicles!! There now let know that you are now leaving,, if he ever touches you again, you will be real hard on him next time.
It is called motivation!!
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 2, 2019 9:20:10 GMT -5
"My husband provides me with a very comfortable lifestyle. I am happy as long as I ignore the beatings." I am sorry bills, that your husband beats you!! Truly sorry!! Here is how you handle that,, wait till he falls asleep from drinking too much,, Take a large needle and heavy thread, sew the blanket that you so carefully place over him, to the mattress,,
Sew it good, now that he is secure in that bed well sewed in!! take a ball pein hammer to the more sensitive parts of his body,, careful not to hit his head, you want to keep him conscience for this!! A few shots to the ribs, taking care to miss the heart,, move up and down making nice shots to the arms and legs, oh!!! don't forget a couple of particularly hard shots to the testicles!! There now let know that you are now leaving,, if he ever touches you again, you will be real hard on him next time.
It is called motivation!!
I appreciate that response to my comment. Your need to put that much effort into it clearly indicates the depth under your skin my comment dug into your soul. Perhaps by next November you will be motivated enough to not vote for our abusive president.
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Post by Bob Ross on Dec 2, 2019 9:22:29 GMT -5
Hey what is there not to like about Trump Presidency? All you need to do is ignore his tweeter fingers. Good things, I got a nice tax cut! My mutual funds are doing great! Price of fuel is not outrageous. My home is worth more every day! Business is really good! He got out of the terrible Global Warming money sucking pit!! Unemployment is so low, right now , if you do have a job , you don't want one.
Even my oldest grandson now have jobs, Holy Crap. If you don't thinks unemployment is low,,,, Even Colin Kaepernick got a job interview!!! But he blew it!!
And aside from the tax cut, which can be argued may be good for the individual but bad for the country and also more than offset by the tariffs of his trade war, and the exit from the "Global Warming money pit" which may have dire consequences for the future, why do you think Donald Trump is responsible for any of the above?
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 2, 2019 9:42:56 GMT -5
Bills, If Trump get beat in the next election, So Be It, It will make very little change to my life. Do I see the flaws in Trump, we all do. I don't let the little things and I do mean little things bother me. let me point out, when I put out the "Wooooo Hoooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again" Would come after some one bad mouthing Trump. Rather than me saying something like,,,
You dumb uneducated SOB, how can you fail to see the light?? in defending something Trump did ,, good or bad.
My Wooooo Hooooo was better than the "You dumb SOB! So, if you would like to see me mellow out a little,,, my fellow posters might try doing the same.
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