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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 27, 2019 19:13:52 GMT -5
Why is it that these things only appear after,, something happening?? Whether it is Sondland or Kavanaugh,, where were these accusations long before now?? Quite frankly, given the time frame of these, I find it very hard to believe!
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 27, 2019 19:25:08 GMT -5
Why is it that these things only appear after,, something happening?? Whether it is Sondland or Kavanaugh,, where were these accusations long before now?? Quite frankly, given the time frame of these, I find it very hard to believe!
We TOLD you......over and over again. It's like Iran being "given" billions of dollars. It just doesn't sink in.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 27, 2019 19:30:30 GMT -5
Why is it that these things only appear after,, something happening?? Whether it is Sondland or Kavanaugh,, where were these accusations long before now?? Quite frankly, given the time frame of these, I find it very hard to believe!
We TOLD you......over and over again. It's like Iran being "given" billions of dollars. It just doesn't sink in. Annnnd your evidence is??
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 27, 2019 19:32:19 GMT -5
We TOLD you......over and over again. It's like Iran being "given" billions of dollars. It just doesn't sink in. Annnnd your evidence is?? Evidence of what?
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 27, 2019 19:38:27 GMT -5
of any thing except hearsay!
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Post by laterbloomer on Nov 27, 2019 19:41:53 GMT -5
Why is it that these things only appear after,, something happening?? Whether it is Sondland or Kavanaugh,, where were these accusations long before now?? Quite frankly, given the time frame of these, I find it very hard to believe!
This is a tricky one. Given Sondland's character i would be surprised if he hadn't pulled stunts like this. I have no problem beliving he did it. I also have no problem believing that Trump supporters found these women and encouraged them to come forward now in order to discredit him. Both Trump and Sondland can be guilty.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 27, 2019 20:39:19 GMT -5
From the link in the opening post:
Power players can ruin the careers of people who file complaints against them. They can also get people blackballed from ever finding a well paying job too.
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 27, 2019 21:22:26 GMT -5
The people who most need to read that -won’t.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 27, 2019 21:24:45 GMT -5
Sondland struck me as the type who would do this sort of thing (just like trump).
So I find their stories believable. It doesn’t change his testimony. I believe him.
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Post by swamp on Nov 27, 2019 22:23:13 GMT -5
Oh, another entitled rich dude feels like he can touch any woman he wants. Color me shocked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 22:32:00 GMT -5
Color me shocked that OC doesn't get it.
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Post by swamp on Nov 27, 2019 22:38:12 GMT -5
That too.
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Post by swamp on Nov 27, 2019 22:41:00 GMT -5
OC, I’ll try to explain one more time. Not that you listen or care to even try to understand.
Ive been groped by assorted men, even in a professional setting. I didn’t see the need to go to the cops at the time. It’s just crap you deal with as a woman. If one of those guys was on national TV, I might let the nation know what a pig he is. Or maybe I wouldn’t because people like you would assume I’m lying and out for his money.
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 28, 2019 9:00:43 GMT -5
I think O.C. might be asking.... So did this come out because he failed to destroy Trump and he has to be punished for failing? Or, he almost destroyed Trump and has to be destroyed? The Ambassador has been in place well before the Impeachment process and at least one incident is over 15 years old. Why does this come out now? (hope I am not saying I know what O.C. is thinking because I have been accused of this unlike my fellow posters here are doing to O.C.)
My thoughts. After the fiasco of the SC nomination process the powers that be have to be careful with the process. The accusers are not exactly shrinking violets and people who were powerless to come forward before now..... And I believe there is more than a 50% chance it happened, but the ME TOO movement did not start this week and these are strong women.......
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 28, 2019 9:11:47 GMT -5
I think O.C. might be asking.... So did this come out because he failed to destroy Trump and he has to be punished for failing? Or, he almost destroyed Trump and has to be destroyed? The Ambassador has been in place well before the Impeachment process and at least one incident is over 15 years old. Why does this come out now? (hope I am not saying I know what O.C. is thinking because I have been accused of this unlike my fellow posters here are doing to O.C.)My thoughts. After the fiasco of the SC nomination process the powers that be have to be careful with the process. The accusers are not exactly shrinking violets and people who were powerless to come forward before now..... And I believe there is more than a 50% chance it happened, but the ME TOO movement did not start this week and these are strong women.......
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 28, 2019 9:13:43 GMT -5
I think O.C. might be asking.... So did this come out because he failed to destroy Trump and he has to be punished for failing? Or, he almost destroyed Trump and has to be destroyed? The Ambassador has been in place well before the Impeachment process and at least one incident is over 15 years old. Why does this come out now? (hope I am not saying I know what O.C. is thinking because I have been accused of this unlike my fellow posters here are doing to O.C.)My thoughts. After the fiasco of the SC nomination process the powers that be have to be careful with the process. The accusers are not exactly shrinking violets and people who were powerless to come forward before now..... And I believe there is more than a 50% chance it happened, but the ME TOO movement did not start this week and these are strong women....... Tennesseer, Happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy the day!
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 28, 2019 20:48:37 GMT -5
Color me shocked that OC doesn't get it. Maybe O.C. has never done anything like that!
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 28, 2019 20:52:41 GMT -5
OC, I’ll try to explain one more time. Not that you listen or care to even try to understand. Ive been groped by assorted men, even in a professional setting. I didn’t see the need to go to the cops at the time. It’s just crap you deal with as a woman. If one of those guys was on national TV, I might let the nation know what a pig he is. Or maybe I wouldn’t because people like you would assume I’m lying and out for his money. Annnnd how many time is the so call perpetrator, approached by ,,, say a lawyer that explains "This can all go away for XXXXXXXX#of$?? Bunches and heaps, even if there is no evidence at all!!
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 28, 2019 23:17:20 GMT -5
Color me shocked that OC doesn't get it. Maybe O.C. has never done anything like that! Maybe OC isn't every man, and a bunch of the 100 million white guys in America did something he didn't.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 29, 2019 0:42:26 GMT -5
Color me shocked that OC doesn't get it. Maybe O.C. has never done anything like that! Perhaps OC has been living in a cave, and not cognizant of everything women go through.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 29, 2019 8:56:42 GMT -5
Maybe I remember too many cases of crying rape, like the Duke Lacrosse athlete's false rape charge! Or as my own experience of a co worker who was arrested put in jail for six weeks, before the parents of the girl got her to confess the charge was false after she did it again!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 9:07:49 GMT -5
Sondland struck me as the type who would do this sort of thing (just like trump). So I find their stories believable. It doesn’t change his testimony. I believe him. "Struck me as the type". !!! Thank God it's innocent till proven guilty in this country. The framers of our country were on to something with that.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 29, 2019 9:10:16 GMT -5
Maybe O.C. has never done anything like that! Maybe OC isn't every man, and a bunch of the 100 million white guys in America did something he didn't. White Guys??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 9:13:50 GMT -5
I'm noticing a bit of double standard on certain things here. Little bit of a Freudian slip-up going on ?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 29, 2019 11:49:43 GMT -5
Sondland struck me as the type who would do this sort of thing (just like trump). So I find their stories believable. It doesn’t change his testimony. I believe him. "Struck me as the type". !!! Thank God it's innocent till proven guilty in this country. The framers of our country were on to something with that. Have I said "Lock him up"?. Apparently I'm not entitled to an opinion. OK, got it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 29, 2019 13:52:16 GMT -5
I think O.C. might be asking.... So did this come out because he failed to destroy Trump had to stop you right there.
Trump could be impeached on what Sondland has testified alone.
and yeah, he is a very flawed witness. so that is saying something.
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 29, 2019 13:53:16 GMT -5
I think O.C. might be asking.... So did this come out because he failed to destroy Trump had to stop you right there.
Trump could be impeached on what Sondland testified alone.
Impeached in the House? Of course. And he will, but we know Schiff is not about truth or Justice. And he would be Impeached whether the Embassador appeared if front of them or not.
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