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Post by dezii on Nov 29, 2019 16:31:52 GMT -5
For me it's Biden...I believe he will be able to get down and dirty with him if that is needed..hopefully America will want to get back to some normancy again rather then the bad soap opera we have been on for a bit over three years now.. If started earlier , possible Bloomberg too....notice how so many are seniors...Surprised there is no member of the GOP coming out to challenge Donald. Just who would that be? Romney? America already told him no. There is a guy from Illinois who is running. I think he lost his re-election to Congress a few years ago to a democrat. Value...I am a lifetime liberal, card carrying Dem...but a believer in the two party system,..easily admit the Dems at time can f things up.... However, after three plus years of the Donald...he's not a Pub...I can't believe he is in that position not a single one... just someone , .....that that grand old party has no one to mount a challenge...unimportant if they could win... Sheet...Dems seem at time all card carriers are running..u know I don't believe this putz is your messiah, standard bearer... Please don't say it's so. |
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 29, 2019 21:23:52 GMT -5
At this point there is not one that can do it. at this point there are probably 10 that can do it. you said so yourself, in post 14. From post 13! I also think all of them could lose to him.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Nov 29, 2019 21:56:14 GMT -5
Well help your country, be a patriot, step up and vote for a dem, any dem would be better then trump. Help save our country, please.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 29, 2019 22:19:49 GMT -5
Well help your country, be a patriot, step up and vote for a dem, any dem would be better then trump. Help save our country, please. Last couple of elections I did vote for a Democrat! Kyrsten Simena for Senate and Paul Penzone Maricopa County Sheriff!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 29, 2019 22:21:07 GMT -5
We might have a slight difference of opinion on who is destroying our Country!
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Post by countrygirl2 on Nov 29, 2019 22:40:32 GMT -5
I'm sorry you can't see it. I cannot figure what would attract anyone to this crass, lying, piece of whatever. I would never want anyone to think he represents anything good and honorable in this country, as he does not.
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Post by ednkris on Nov 30, 2019 0:34:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry you can't see it. I cannot figure what would attract anyone to this crass, lying, piece of whatever. I would never want anyone to think he represents anything good and honorable in this country, as he does not. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion |
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Post by dondub on Nov 30, 2019 1:22:21 GMT -5
I'm sorry you can't see it. I cannot figure what would attract anyone to this crass, lying, piece of whatever. I would never want anyone to think he represents anything good and honorable in this country, as he does not. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion Even wrong ones such as yours. |
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Post by countrygirl2 on Nov 30, 2019 18:19:34 GMT -5
And I am most certainly keeping it. Russia helps get him in again, by the end of the next 4, even you people will see what a dictator he has become. And he may even start a dynasty.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 30, 2019 20:54:15 GMT -5
I'm sorry you can't see it. I cannot figure what would attract anyone to this crass, lying, piece of whatever. I would never want anyone to think he represents anything good and honorable in this country, as he does not. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion Sure they are. You support a serial sexual assaulter who has mocked the disabled, attacked military families and who lies daily. That says a lot about you |
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 30, 2019 21:03:44 GMT -5
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion Sure they are. You support a serial sexual assaulter who has mocked the disabled, attacked military families and who lies daily. That says a lot about you He's always been a crass and loudmouthed person, and some people really like that. They love how it makes other Americans gasp and clutch their pearls - I get that, and I could live with that, if that's all this president did.
But it's worse - he actively solicited Russian foreign involvement (RUSSIAN foreign involvement - the worse) in the 2016 election, got his toady Barr to pretend that was no big thing, and immediately after the Mueller investigation was over, began soliciting both the Ukrainian and Chinese assistance to influence the 2020 election (egged on by Russia).
Trump is either a willing stodge of Putin, in exchanged for some awesome future business deal (or because Putin has something on him) or he's incredibly stupid, with a spineless staff who can't/won't tell him his foray out into the 4Chan conspiracy weeds has addled his judgment and is dangerous to us and our allies.
It's worse that Trump being a crappy loudmouthed human being. He's destroying our alliances and handing us over to Putin, and so many of the GOPers just shrug and play along, because they still enjoy watching Trump enrage other Americans.
I don't understand it, at all.
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Post by ednkris on Nov 30, 2019 21:17:36 GMT -5
Sure they are. You support a serial sexual assaulter who has mocked the disabled, attacked military families and who lies daily. That says a lot about you He's always been a crass and loudmouthed person, and some people really like that. They love how it makes other Americans gasp and clutch their pearls - I get that, and I could live with that, if that's all this president did.
But it's worse - he actively solicited Russian foreign involvement (RUSSIAN foreign involvement - the worse) in the 2016 election, got his toady Barr to pretend that was no big thing, and immediately after the Mueller investigation was over, began soliciting both the Ukrainian and Chinese assistance to influence the 2020 election (egged on by Russia).
Trump is either a willing stodge of Putin, in exchanged for some awesome future business deal (or because Putin has something on him) or he's incredibly stupid, with a spineless staff who can't/won't tell him his foray out into the 4Chan conspiracy weeds has addled his judgment and is dangerous to us and our allies.
It's worse that Trump being a crappy loudmouthed human being. He's destroying our alliances and handing us over to Putin, and so many of the GOPers just shrug and play along, because they still enjoy watching Trump enrage other Americans.
I don't understand it, at all.
Who had Russian involvement in the 2016 election...the dems....just follow the dossier. Putin was more friendly with the previous administration than the current one. Trump had every right to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden it has nothing to do with Biden running for nomination. The real issue is democrats are listening to all the noise to rile up their base. |
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 30, 2019 22:07:22 GMT -5
... Trump had every right to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden it has nothing to do with Biden running for nomination. ... The timing of when he asked would suggest otherwise. |
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Post by dondub on Dec 1, 2019 0:16:43 GMT -5
I don’t recall Obama disrespecting 17 intelligence agencies that told Trump Russia had interfered in HIS election and then stating ‘why would they do it’?
I don’t recall Obama imploring Russia to hunt down opponent emails.
I don’t recall Obama meeting in private with Putin and destroying the translaters notes to keep it secret.
I don’t recall Obama havingRussian ‘operatives’ in the Oval Office that caused us to extract our best spy from Moscow because of the worry Trump might have revealed key info that might have led to discovery.
I don’t recall Obama operatives having private Trump tower meetings with Russian operatives.
I don’t recall Obama easing sanctions on Russia.
I don’t recall Obama delaying military aid to Ukraine, favoring Russia, to invent a fake conspiracy theory and attempt to find dirt on a major political opponent.
So, in other words, any moronic claim from the right wing loon echo chamber that Obama was somehow friendlier or more supportive of Russia is complete horseshit smoke blowing nonsense.
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Post by dezii on Dec 1, 2019 0:26:32 GMT -5
I'm sorry you can't see it. I cannot figure what would attract anyone to this crass, lying, piece of whatever. I would never want anyone to think he represents anything good and honorable in this country, as he does not.  and so much more.... |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2019 1:56:49 GMT -5
at this point there are probably 10 that can do it. you said so yourself, in post 14. From post 13! I also think all of them could lose to him.
right. ALSO. also means, IN ADDITION.
in addition to what? winning.
and you agreed to that.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2019 1:58:06 GMT -5
We might have a slight difference of opinion on who is destroying our Country! no, we would only differ on what we see as "our country", I am betting. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2019 1:59:15 GMT -5
I'm sorry you can't see it. I cannot figure what would attract anyone to this crass, lying, piece of whatever. I would never want anyone to think he represents anything good and honorable in this country, as he does not. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thank goodness for that.
but it doesn't make the opinion holder look very good to support the person in question.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2019 2:01:31 GMT -5
He's always been a crass and loudmouthed person, and some people really like that. They love how it makes other Americans gasp and clutch their pearls - I get that, and I could live with that, if that's all this president did.
But it's worse - he actively solicited Russian foreign involvement (RUSSIAN foreign involvement - the worse) in the 2016 election, got his toady Barr to pretend that was no big thing, and immediately after the Mueller investigation was over, began soliciting both the Ukrainian and Chinese assistance to influence the 2020 election (egged on by Russia).
Trump is either a willing stodge of Putin, in exchanged for some awesome future business deal (or because Putin has something on him) or he's incredibly stupid, with a spineless staff who can't/won't tell him his foray out into the 4Chan conspiracy weeds has addled his judgment and is dangerous to us and our allies.
It's worse that Trump being a crappy loudmouthed human being. He's destroying our alliances and handing us over to Putin, and so many of the GOPers just shrug and play along, because they still enjoy watching Trump enrage other Americans.
I don't understand it, at all.
Who had Russian involvement in the 2016 election...the dems....just follow the dossier. Putin was more friendly with the previous administration than the current one. Trump had every right to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden it has nothing to do with Biden running for nomination. The real issue is democrats are listening to all the noise to rile up their base. there is literally not a shred of fact in your response, ed. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2019 2:02:24 GMT -5
... Trump had every right to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden it has nothing to do with Biden running for nomination. ... The timing of when he asked would suggest otherwise. moreover, asking for ONLY Biden to be investigated is very suspicious. |
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Post by tbop77 on Dec 1, 2019 7:34:31 GMT -5
The joke will truly be on President Trump if Biden doesn't win the nomination. He and all the President's men scheming for nothing.
But I'm sure not to worry, just like his kids meeting with the Russians about adoption and hold aid to investigate corruption, he'll never cease to disappoint.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 1, 2019 9:00:32 GMT -5
From post 13! I also think all of them could lose to him.
right. ALSO. also means, IN ADDITION.
in addition to what? winning.
and you agreed to that.
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 1, 2019 9:12:15 GMT -5
right. ALSO. also means, IN ADDITION.
in addition to what? winning.
and you agreed to that.
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Post by seriousthistime on Dec 1, 2019 9:54:33 GMT -5
Sure they are. You support a serial sexual assaulter who has mocked the disabled, attacked military families and who lies daily. That says a lot about you He's always been a crass and loudmouthed person, and some people really like that. They love how it makes other Americans gasp and clutch their pearls - I get that, and I could live with that, if that's all this president did.
But it's worse - he actively solicited Russian foreign involvement (RUSSIAN foreign involvement - the worse) in the 2016 election, got his toady Barr to pretend that was no big thing, and immediately after the Mueller investigation was over, began soliciting both the Ukrainian and Chinese assistance to influence the 2020 election (egged on by Russia).
Trump is either a willing stodge of Putin, in exchanged for some awesome future business deal (or because Putin has something on him) or he's incredibly stupid, with a spineless staff who can't/won't tell him his foray out into the 4Chan conspiracy weeds has addled his judgment and is dangerous to us and our allies.
It's worse that Trump being a crappy loudmouthed human being. He's destroying our alliances and handing us over to Putin, and so many of the GOPers just shrug and play along, because they still enjoy watching Trump enrage other Americans.
I don't understand it, at all.
I was born in the early 1950s. I remember in elementary school we would have air raid drills to plan for the day that Russia would invade the U.S. We never could have anticipated that one day they would invade our country without putting one Russian soldier on American soil or bombing the U.S. But, here we are. I'm surprised some people don't see what is going on as an invasion. |
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Post by ednkris on Dec 1, 2019 12:19:07 GMT -5
Who had Russian involvement in the 2016 election...the dems....just follow the dossier. Putin was more friendly with the previous administration than the current one. Trump had every right to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden it has nothing to do with Biden running for nomination. The real issue is democrats are listening to all the noise to rile up their base. there is literally not a shred of fact in your response, ed. who paid for the dossier with Russian ties, who got caught on a hot mic talking about what they can do after the re-election. Unlike the dems trying to connect the dots like a 2 year old with a crayon all over the place there are real facts on dems crap |
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Post by oped on Dec 1, 2019 12:43:58 GMT -5
Presidential elections are different. We let the kids vote absentee for non presidential. We'll each make the 6 hour round trip to pic up both kids to make sure they vote in person in their district for the presidential election next year.
Lots of kids aging up every day. In their entire lifetimes Republicans have won the popular vote exactly fucking once... and dominated representation for the majority of the time...
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2019 12:56:39 GMT -5
right. ALSO. also means, IN ADDITION.
in addition to what? winning.
and you agreed to that.
NO! yes, actually.
what I said logically follows. if you disagree, either delete post 14, or amend it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2019 13:00:10 GMT -5
who paid for the dossier with Russian ties, who got caught on a hot mic talking about what they can do after the re-election. Unlike the dems trying to connect the dots like a 2 year old with a crayon all over the place there are real facts on dems crap 1: Fusion GPS paid for it. and there is nothing wrong with that, at all. 2: I don't understand point #2. you talking about Obama there? you seriously think that the Obama administration was more cozy with Putin from a policy standpoint than Trump? because I don't have words to describe how stupid that sounds. Putin hated Obama, and hated Clinton even more. that is pretty much WHY Russia did what they did in 2016. your failure to acknowledge that is deeply disturbing to me.
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