If you buy pork products at Walmart...

[kadee79]

You NEED to read this...


www.newsweek.com/walmart-pork-products-superbugs-resistant-critically-important-antibiotics-1473867

[gambler]

I go to ask why oh why does any one but meat at Wal-Mart. I know there are cheap but you only get that you pay for especially food. clarify fresh food.

[Gardening Grandma]

I do not buy meat at W'mart.  I also do not buy produce or dairy there.  In fact I avoid shopping for any food there - except maybe junk food.  They have plenty of that.

[weltschmerz]

You can always come up to Canada to buy your pork and beef. That includes pork and beef sold at Walmart.

Stacey Ash of Ontario Pork said growth hormones and steroids are not used in the production of Canadian pork at all. “This is a common misconception among consumers,” she said.



With regard to antibiotics, they are used for individual animals when they are sick or at risk of infection. “Farmers work with their veterinarians to treat and prevent illness, but must follow strict antibiotic withdrawal periods before hogs are sent to market to ensure no antibiotic residue remains,” she said.

www.simcoe.com/news-story/8864170-hormones-allowed-in-beef-in-canada-but-not-in-pork-or-chicken/

[dannylion]

As far as I can tell, the article cites one study, done by an organization that could be said to have an agenda to promote.  That doesn't mean they cannot be objective, but it would have more impact if their study was supported by other studies.

Also, there was this: "There has not been a great progress in the development of new antibiotics over the last 50 years," she said. "So we are not keeping up with the new bugs that keep cropping up, such as swine flu, etcetera." Swine flu is caused by the H1N1 virus. Viruses are not treated with antibiotics. This kind of thing sort of undermine one's confidence in the position it us apparently meant to support. 

This may turn out to be an issue of concern, but I would like to see something in a more reputable publication than the current iteration of Newsweek before becoming overly alarmed. All that remains of what used to be a reliable source of information is the Newsweek name, which was apparently sold to an organization that is little more than a purveyor of clickbait and tabloid-style sensationalism.

This is interesting and might warrant consideration in making decisions on future food purchases, but I'd like to see some more context (other studies, retailers other than Walmart included in the studies, things like that).



(Please disregard the quote box below.  I couldn't get it to cooperate, and then I couldn't make it go away.  Sorry.)

[weltschmerz]

Nov 26, 2019 18:04:26 GMT -5 dannylion said:

As far as I can tell, the article cites one study, done by an organization that could be said to have an agenda to promote.  That doesn't mean they cannot be objective, but it would have more impact if their study was supported by other studies.

Also, there was this: "There has not been a great progress in the development of new antibiotics over the last 50 years," she said. "So we are not keeping up with the new bugs that keep cropping up, such as swine flu, etcetera." Swine flu is caused by the H1N1 virus. Viruses are not treated with antibiotics. This kind of thing sort of undermine one's confidence in the position it us apparently meant to support. 

This may turn out to be an issue of concern, but I would like to see something in a more reputable publication than the current iteration of Newsweek before becoming overly alarmed. All that remains of what used to be a reliable source of information is the Newsweek name, which was apparently sold to an organization that is little more than a purveyor of clickbait and tabloid-style sensationalism.

This is interesting and might warrant consideration in making decisions on future food purchases, but I'd like to see some more context (other studies, retailers other than Walmart included in the studies, things like that).



(Please disregard the quote box below.  I couldn't get it to cooperate, and then I couldn't make it go away.  Sorry.)

Overuse of antibiotics leads to the creation of antibiotic resistant Superbugs. FACT. If the pigs are regularly fed antibiotics as a prophylactic measure, it won't end well.

[thyme4change]

Nov 26, 2019 17:35:03 GMT -5 gambler said:

I go to ask why oh why does any one but meat at Wal-Mart. I know there are cheap but you only get that you pay for especially food. clarify fresh food.

When WM began doing groceries, they used the same suppliers as the grocery chains. Maybe not anymore. But if you are shopping at any regular or discount grocery store, it may be the exact same meat. Whole foods and "fine foods" stores probably have better quality, but at much higher prices.

[dannylion]

Nov 26, 2019 18:13:08 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Nov 26, 2019 18:04:26 GMT -5 dannylion said:

As far as I can tell, the article cites one study, done by an organization that could be said to have an agenda to promote.  That doesn't mean they cannot be objective, but it would have more impact if their study was supported by other studies.

Also, there was this: "There has not been a great progress in the development of new antibiotics over the last 50 years," she said. "So we are not keeping up with the new bugs that keep cropping up, such as swine flu, etcetera." Swine flu is caused by the H1N1 virus. Viruses are not treated with antibiotics. This kind of thing sort of undermine one's confidence in the position it us apparently meant to support. 

This may turn out to be an issue of concern, but I would like to see something in a more reputable publication than the current iteration of Newsweek before becoming overly alarmed. All that remains of what used to be a reliable source of information is the Newsweek name, which was apparently sold to an organization that is little more than a purveyor of clickbait and tabloid-style sensationalism.

This is interesting and might warrant consideration in making decisions on future food purchases, but I'd like to see some more context (other studies, retailers other than Walmart included in the studies, things like that).



(Please disregard the quote box below.  I couldn't get it to cooperate, and then I couldn't make it go away.  Sorry.)

Overuse of antibiotics leads to the creation of antibiotic resistant Superbugs. FACT. If the pigs are regularly fed antibiotics as a prophylactic measure, it won't end well.

I'm not arguing with that.  Did I say I was arguing with that?  Where did I deny that was a FACT?  

On the other hand, there's the "not enough antibiotics being developed" seemingly tied to failure to address "new bugs," with the example given being a virus, so I reserve the right to remain somewhat calm about this particular study until there is some corroboration from another source.  

[gambler]

I am not a great cook but believe in starting with good ingredients. Do not buy at discount store either stick with higher end store s for meat  and produce. Fresh seafood here is not a issue.

[thyme4change]

Nov 26, 2019 20:27:28 GMT -5 gambler said:

I am not a great cook but believe in starting with good ingredients. Do not buy at discount store either stick with higher end store s for meat  and produce. Fresh seafood here is not a issue.

I also start with quality ingredients, but I didn't always. Because I spend more for groceries for a single meal than some people spend for a week of groceries. I try not to fault people who have little means for making decisions that are different than mine.

[Tiny]

Doesn't all raw animal products (meat and fish) have bad for you bacteria on it/in it? Isn't that why you are suppose to cook the meat/fish (to minimum specific temperatures)?

I don't think giving the animals antibiotics would remove the bacteria that thrives on the final packaged products. I suspect some of the bad for you bacteria is introduced during the actual processing of the critters.

That said... having watch a couple of bored children (maybe with poor impulse control? Or perhaps their parents never bothered to correct their bad behavior at home?) running amok in WalMart and touching/sticking their hands into/opening up packages of food and then making it look un-tampered with as best they could and putting it back on the shelf/in the food case OR leaving food that needed to be cold on a shelf somewhere else in the store (which I'm sure eventually found it's way back to the cold case after sitting out and getting warm)... I never bought another food product at Walmart. I'm a little leary of food at any sort of big box store (big enough so that when the store isn't crowded - one feels they are all alone and can do questionable stuff).