hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 27, 2019 8:37:48 GMT -5
Or what if regardless of how you feel about the parents, you just make it a personal rule not to abuse children? Telling s child the truth about their parents is not abuse. Abuse would be hitting back if they hit me. I would never hit a child but i have no problem telling them their parents are awful. 1. Yes, you can be telling the truth and still being abusive. If you know the father didn't want the child and wanted them aborted, it would still be absolutely abusive to walk up to a 5 year old and say "your daddy didn't want you, he wanted your mommy to kill you". I'm not sure why you think "truth" is the hurdle for what is or isn't emotional abuse. 2. Your idea of "the truth" seems warped. You think telling kids that because their parents aren't sitting next to them that they're hoping you will abduct them is "the truth". 3. I highly doubt you would be ok with people walking up to your special needs child and telling them what they think "the truth" is. Because you should absolutely know better that what some people think is true is nowhere close to it...particularly as it relates to people with special needs. 4. It's pretty clearly you simply wanting to abuse children since you'll only "tell them the truth" if they're being annoying. If you think telling kids that their parents don't love them and are hoping they will be abducted isn't abusive...is there anything you think can be said to a child that would constitute abuse? Or do you think the only abuse is physical? That's not rhetorical, I think the idea of "abuse is only physical" isn't uncommon...I'm curious if you think that or you just think emotional abuse has to be untrue, or beyond "your parent's done love you and want you abducted" (which would be hard to imagine beyond that since I can't think of much you could say worse).
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Miss Tequila
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 27, 2019 9:33:12 GMT -5
Telling s child the truth about their parents is not abuse. Abuse would be hitting back if they hit me. I would never hit a child but i have no problem telling them their parents are awful. 1. Yes, you can be telling the truth and still being abusive. If you know the father didn't want the child and wanted them aborted, it would still be absolutely abusive to walk up to a 5 year old and say "your daddy didn't want you, he wanted your mommy to kill you". I'm not sure why you think "truth" is the hurdle for what is or isn't emotional abuse. 2. Your idea of "the truth" seems warped. You think telling kids that because their parents aren't sitting next to them that they're hoping you will abduct them is "the truth". 3. I highly doubt you would be ok with people walking up to your special needs child and telling them what they think "the truth" is. Because you should absolutely know better that what some people think is true is nowhere close to it...particularly as it relates to people with special needs. 4. It's pretty clearly you simply wanting to abuse children since you'll only "tell them the truth" if they're being annoying. If you think telling kids that their parents don't love them and are hoping they will be abducted isn't abusive...is there anything you think can be said to a child that would constitute abuse? Or do you think the only abuse is physical? That's not rhetorical, I think the idea of "abuse is only physical" isn't uncommon...I'm curious if you think that or you just think emotional abuse has to be untrue, or beyond "your parent's done love you and want you abducted" (which would be hard to imagine beyond that since I can't think of much you could say worse). I actually wouldn’t tell them they wanted them abdicated. I’m an asshole but not that much. But I would tell them that mommy and daddy decided they weren’t worth the $100 to sit by them. It’s the truth. Carl made it very clear that he wasn’t spending the money to ensure the safety of his child. His attitude was “I will just let her ruin your flight then” - traumatizing his child rather than coughing up the money to make sure his wife got to sit by her. Sorry, but that is being an asshole and his kid should know it. You can disagree with me all you want but I absolutely hate entitled people. Let his kid know so maybe he wouldn’t be such an asshole on the next flight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 10:48:50 GMT -5
Another article on this claims that there's already a law requiring airlines to seat small children near parents but it's not enforced. www.msn.com/en-us/travel/voices/why-is-it-so-hard-for-airlines-to-seat-families-together/ar-BBXk9ku?li=BBnbklEAnd I LOVE her whiny claim that it's "discrimination" to require parents to pay extra for seat selection so their kids are sitting with them. No, discrimination is when the surcharge is waived for parents with small kids and not for other people who want to sit next to each other. As a parent who traveled with a small child and now a grandparent traveling with one, I would NEVER gamble on flight crew or fellow passengers making up for my negligence in not paying to make sure the child and I were seated together. That cost is just part of the trip for me.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 27, 2019 11:11:47 GMT -5
1. Yes, you can be telling the truth and still being abusive. If you know the father didn't want the child and wanted them aborted, it would still be absolutely abusive to walk up to a 5 year old and say "your daddy didn't want you, he wanted your mommy to kill you". I'm not sure why you think "truth" is the hurdle for what is or isn't emotional abuse. 2. Your idea of "the truth" seems warped. You think telling kids that because their parents aren't sitting next to them that they're hoping you will abduct them is "the truth". 3. I highly doubt you would be ok with people walking up to your special needs child and telling them what they think "the truth" is. Because you should absolutely know better that what some people think is true is nowhere close to it...particularly as it relates to people with special needs. 4. It's pretty clearly you simply wanting to abuse children since you'll only "tell them the truth" if they're being annoying. If you think telling kids that their parents don't love them and are hoping they will be abducted isn't abusive...is there anything you think can be said to a child that would constitute abuse? Or do you think the only abuse is physical? That's not rhetorical, I think the idea of "abuse is only physical" isn't uncommon...I'm curious if you think that or you just think emotional abuse has to be untrue, or beyond "your parent's done love you and want you abducted" (which would be hard to imagine beyond that since I can't think of much you could say worse). I actually wouldn’t tell them they wanted them abdicated. I’m an asshole but not that much. But I would tell them that mommy and daddy decided they weren’t worth the $100 to sit by them. It’s the truth. Carl made it very clear that he wasn’t spending the money to ensure the safety of his child. His attitude was “I will just let her ruin your flight then” - traumatizing his child rather than coughing up the money to make sure his wife got to sit by her. Sorry, but that is being an asshole and his kid should know it. You can disagree with me all you want but I absolutely hate entitled people. Let his kid know so maybe he wouldn’t be such an asshole on the next flight. Well, if I'm ever seated next to your child, I'll be sure and tell them "your mother is an asshole". After all, it's the truth.
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Miss Tequila
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 27, 2019 17:31:42 GMT -5
I actually wouldn’t tell them they wanted them abdicated. I’m an asshole but not that much. But I would tell them that mommy and daddy decided they weren’t worth the $100 to sit by them. It’s the truth. Carl made it very clear that he wasn’t spending the money to ensure the safety of his child. His attitude was “I will just let her ruin your flight then” - traumatizing his child rather than coughing up the money to make sure his wife got to sit by her. Sorry, but that is being an asshole and his kid should know it. You can disagree with me all you want but I absolutely hate entitled people. Let his kid know so maybe he wouldn’t be such an asshole on the next flight. Well, if I'm ever seated next to your child, I'll be sure and tell them "your mother is an asshole". After all, it's the truth. Lol! Go for it. My kids would laugh. I’ve called them my little assholes for most of their lives
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 27, 2019 18:07:26 GMT -5
1. Yes, you can be telling the truth and still being abusive. If you know the father didn't want the child and wanted them aborted, it would still be absolutely abusive to walk up to a 5 year old and say "your daddy didn't want you, he wanted your mommy to kill you". I'm not sure why you think "truth" is the hurdle for what is or isn't emotional abuse. 2. Your idea of "the truth" seems warped. You think telling kids that because their parents aren't sitting next to them that they're hoping you will abduct them is "the truth". 3. I highly doubt you would be ok with people walking up to your special needs child and telling them what they think "the truth" is. Because you should absolutely know better that what some people think is true is nowhere close to it...particularly as it relates to people with special needs. 4. It's pretty clearly you simply wanting to abuse children since you'll only "tell them the truth" if they're being annoying. If you think telling kids that their parents don't love them and are hoping they will be abducted isn't abusive...is there anything you think can be said to a child that would constitute abuse? Or do you think the only abuse is physical? That's not rhetorical, I think the idea of "abuse is only physical" isn't uncommon...I'm curious if you think that or you just think emotional abuse has to be untrue, or beyond "your parent's done love you and want you abducted" (which would be hard to imagine beyond that since I can't think of much you could say worse). I actually wouldn’t tell them they wanted them abdicated. I’m an asshole but not that much. But I would tell them that mommy and daddy decided they weren’t worth the $100 to sit by them. It’s the truth. Carl made it very clear that he wasn’t spending the money to ensure the safety of his child. His attitude was “I will just let her ruin your flight then” - traumatizing his child rather than coughing up the money to make sure his wife got to sit by her. Sorry, but that is being an asshole and his kid should know it. You can disagree with me all you want but I absolutely hate entitled people. Let his kid know so maybe he wouldn’t be such an asshole on the next flight. What the hell is WRONG with you?
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Post by obelisk on Nov 27, 2019 18:20:39 GMT -5
I actually wouldn’t tell them they wanted them abdicated. I’m an asshole but not that much. But I would tell them that mommy and daddy decided they weren’t worth the $100 to sit by them. It’s the truth. Carl made it very clear that he wasn’t spending the money to ensure the safety of his child. His attitude was “I will just let her ruin your flight then” - traumatizing his child rather than coughing up the money to make sure his wife got to sit by her. Sorry, but that is being an asshole and his kid should know it. You can disagree with me all you want but I absolutely hate entitled people. Let his kid know so maybe he wouldn’t be such an asshole on the next flight. What the hell is WRONG with you? For someone that doesn't travel for their son's medical emergency locally. What is wrong with you !!!! Let alone all the pics that you post that are pics from the e-net Shame on you
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 27, 2019 18:24:57 GMT -5
What the hell is WRONG with you? For someone that doesn't travel for their son's medical emergency locally. What is wrong with you !!!! Let alone all the pics that you post that are pics from the e-net Shame on you
What the fuck are you talking about? My son is 35 years old, not 6. He had his SO there. He told me not to come. I respect an adult's wishes, even though I offered to come a dozen times. And pics? I post pics from the "e-net"? So what?
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Post by obelisk on Nov 27, 2019 18:32:13 GMT -5
For someone that doesn't travel for their son's medical emergency locally. What is wrong with you !!!! Let alone all the pics that you post that are pics from the e-net Shame on you
What the fuck are you talking about? My son is 35 years old, not 6. He had his SO there. He told me not to come. I respect an adult's wishes, even though I offered to come a dozen times. And pics? I post pics from the "e-net"? So what? Vous avez fait mon point madame.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 27, 2019 18:39:37 GMT -5
What the fuck are you talking about? My son is 35 years old, not 6. He had his SO there. He told me not to come. I respect an adult's wishes, even though I offered to come a dozen times. And pics? I post pics from the "e-net"? So what? Vous avez fait mon point madame. What's your problem with me? I don't even know you.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 27, 2019 19:25:30 GMT -5
I actually wouldn’t tell them they wanted them abdicated. I’m an asshole but not that much. But I would tell them that mommy and daddy decided they weren’t worth the $100 to sit by them. It’s the truth. Carl made it very clear that he wasn’t spending the money to ensure the safety of his child. His attitude was “I will just let her ruin your flight then” - traumatizing his child rather than coughing up the money to make sure his wife got to sit by her. Sorry, but that is being an asshole and his kid should know it. You can disagree with me all you want but I absolutely hate entitled people. Let his kid know so maybe he wouldn’t be such an asshole on the next flight. What the hell is WRONG with you? I hate entitled people. If they cared about their child they would pay the $100 to make sure they sat together, rather than expecting that those of us that paid the money to cave and give up our seats. Their kids should know what type of parent they have. You can disagree with me but I don’t really care.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 27, 2019 19:27:59 GMT -5
What the hell is WRONG with you? I hate entitled people. If they cared about their child they would pay the $100 to make sure they sat together, rather than expecting that those of us that paid the money to cave and give up our seats. Their kids should know what type of parent they have. You can disagree with me but I don’t really care. I get it. You would deliberately traumatize a small child.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 27, 2019 20:16:21 GMT -5
What the hell is WRONG with you? I hate entitled people. If they cared about their child they would pay the $100 to make sure they sat together, rather than expecting that those of us that paid the money to cave and give up our seats. Their kids should know what type of parent they have. You can disagree with me but I don’t really care. If you hate entitled people, why not speak to the parents, instead of this? "But I would tell them that mommy and daddy decided they weren’t worth the $100 to sit by them."Why scar the child emotionally? The child had nothing to do with it.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 27, 2019 20:36:16 GMT -5
I hate entitled people. If they cared about their child they would pay the $100 to make sure they sat together, rather than expecting that those of us that paid the money to cave and give up our seats. Their kids should know what type of parent they have. You can disagree with me but I don’t really care. If you hate entitled people, why not speak to the parents, instead of this? "But I would tell them that mommy and daddy decided they weren’t worth the $100 to sit by them."Why scar the child emotionally? The child had nothing to do with it. I would also tell the parents. I love my children enough not to put them at risk (whether emotionally or actual physical harm). If another parent doesn’t that is on them. I would also file a complaint to the airlines for allowing parents to do this. If there is a few to sit together, parents should not be allowed to board with a child under 12 (or a reasonable age) without paying that fee and sitting by their child. Airlines are encouraging parents to be entitled assholes. And an asshole like me is the least of their worries. I will only tell the kid what I think of the parent. Someone else might physically touch the child.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 28, 2019 9:51:14 GMT -5
Another article on this claims that there's already a law requiring airlines to seat small children near parents but it's not enforced. www.msn.com/en-us/travel/voices/why-is-it-so-hard-for-airlines-to-seat-families-together/ar-BBXk9ku?li=BBnbklEAnd I LOVE her whiny claim that it's "discrimination" to require parents to pay extra for seat selection so their kids are sitting with them. No, discrimination is when the surcharge is waived for parents with small kids and not for other people who want to sit next to each other. As a parent who traveled with a small child and now a grandparent traveling with one, I would NEVER gamble on flight crew or fellow passengers making up for my negligence in not paying to make sure the child and I were seated together. That cost is just part of the trip for me. Great. Put them in the very back row, next to the bathrooms. Those seats don't recline either. Remember when people could smoke in the back of the plane? Now we will have a crying section.
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