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Post by hoops902 on Nov 20, 2019 16:21:29 GMT -5
I'll be interested to see reactions to this. I read a few studies a few weeks back (maybe related to this one as well I don't know) talking about this. As generations go on, men have less testosterone, and directly related to that is that men become better and better fathers (or more engaged fathers, I would say that classifies as "better"). So is it terrible that guys are having less and less testosterone? Or is it great that they're becoming better, more engaged fathers and partners?
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 20, 2019 16:21:43 GMT -5
I understand. A person who kisses his wife in public is some kind of pervert, but a man who cheated on all three of his wives is someone to vote for. Since he’s not your president, he’s not your problem. He's my problem and I didn't vote for him. I have an issue with that.
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 20, 2019 16:25:34 GMT -5
So I think maybe you are confusing transgender with drag queens. Drag queens are very much men outside of the character they play. If they truly thought that they were women, they would dress as women all the time and conduct themselves as women. That is not the case with queens. You may not have known any queens personally, but I have known plenty. They do not believe that they are women. You don't think being transgender is normal. I disagree, which is fine. To each their own. My suspicion is that you don't know anyone that is transgender either. Perhaps you should get to know some of these people before you pass judgment. And I've already admitted several times that I have no way of knowing the difference. it wouldn't matter if I knew a transgender person or not. I would still think they needed help. I think it is terrible that someone is that confused and I feel bad for them. that doesn't mean that I think they are actually a woman and belong in the women's locker room or beating women in sports. Yet you have still not answered the question. How is someone dressed in drag any different than anyone else dressed as any other character and why is it less acceptable? Just admit you're imposing a double standard. It would still be crappy of you, but at least you would be owning it instead of throwing out random examples which aren't even remotely the same thing.
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 20, 2019 16:29:43 GMT -5
And I've already admitted several times that I have no way of knowing the difference. it wouldn't matter if I knew a transgender person or not. I would still think they needed help. I think it is terrible that someone is that confused and I feel bad for them. that doesn't mean that I think they are actually a woman and belong in the women's locker room or beating women in sports. Yet you have still not answered the question. How is someone dressed in drag any different than anyone else dressed as any other character and why is it less acceptable? Just admit you're imposing a double standard. It would still be crappy of you, but at least you would be owning it instead of throwing out random examples which aren't even remotely the same thing. I'll give what I think the clear answer from her is. If someone is dressed as Superman, she feels fairly confident that the person doesn't think they are Superman. If someone biologically male is dressed as a female, she isn't fairly confident that the person doesn't honestly believe they are female. My takeaway is that she's fine with drag queens...other than the idea she cannot distinguish drag queens from transgendered individuals visually. My real question at that point becomes, how are you distinguishing between transgendered and non-transgendered individuals visually?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 16:33:47 GMT -5
And I've already admitted several times that I have no way of knowing the difference. it wouldn't matter if I knew a transgender person or not. I would still think they needed help. I think it is terrible that someone is that confused and I feel bad for them. that doesn't mean that I think they are actually a woman and belong in the women's locker room or beating women in sports. Yet you have still not answered the question. How is someone dressed in drag any different than anyone else dressed as any other character and why is it less acceptable? Just admit you're imposing a double standard. It would still be crappy of you, but at least you would be owning it instead of throwing out random examples which aren't even remotely the same thing. for the 10th and last time, I'm not sure how I am supposed to know when someone is dressed in character versus some guy who truly believes he is a woman. When I see a guy dressed as a woman at a Halloween party I know that is a costume and all in fun. When I watch a comedy where the guy dressing as a woman is a joke, I know it is fun. When I see someone outside dressed as a woman, especially in today's world, there is no way to know. I have never been to a drag queen show. But from what I've seen, it seems more geared towards adults. I'm not sure why a 3 year old would have to be read to by a guy in a dress. That isn't a double standard. That is me not understanding why? Is it so the little kids laugh and think it's funny? That is an actual question. I don't get the point of it.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 16:35:46 GMT -5
I'll be interested to see reactions to this. I read a few studies a few weeks back (maybe related to this one as well I don't know) talking about this. As generations go on, men have less testosterone, and directly related to that is that men become better and better fathers (or more engaged fathers, I would say that classifies as "better"). So is it terrible that guys are having less and less testosterone? Or is it great that they're becoming better, more engaged fathers and partners? Interesting. Maybe that is why the millennials seem to have so many beta males. I don't remember that being the case when I was growing up.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 16:36:40 GMT -5
So now I should assume someone's gender? You get slaughtered for that these days! Aren't you assuming that someone you think looks like a man and is wearing jeans and a t-shirt reading books to the kids at the library is a man? If you aren't already assuming someone's gender, then anyone might be transgender to you right? Someone born a woman might be wearing a glitzy dress and identify as a man. Someone born a male might be wearing a tuxedo and identify as a female. You may never have a clue who is transgender or not. That's part of the struggle to understand your point of view, you seem to hinge everything on "I can tell by the clothes" even though we seem to agree that women can pretty much get away with wearing anything. I was actually joking about assuming someone's gender. I forgot to put
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 20, 2019 16:50:09 GMT -5
I understand. A person who kisses his wife in public is some kind of pervert, but a man who cheated on all three of his wives is someone to vote for. Since he’s not your president, he’s not your problem. Now you're "skirting" the issue. (see what I did there?)
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 20, 2019 16:58:39 GMT -5
Yet you have still not answered the question. How is someone dressed in drag any different than anyone else dressed as any other character and why is it less acceptable? Just admit you're imposing a double standard. It would still be crappy of you, but at least you would be owning it instead of throwing out random examples which aren't even remotely the same thing. for the 10th and last time, I'm not sure how I am supposed to know when someone is dressed in character versus some guy who truly believes he is a woman. When I see a guy dressed as a woman at a Halloween party I know that is a costume and all in fun. When I watch a comedy where the guy dressing as a woman is a joke, I know it is fun. When I see someone outside dressed as a woman, especially in today's world, there is no way to know. I have never been to a drag queen show. But from what I've seen, it seems more geared towards adults. I'm not sure why a 3 year old would have to be read to by a guy in a dress. That isn't a double standard. That is me not understanding why? Is it so the little kids laugh and think it's funny? That is an actual question. I don't get the point of it. I didn't ask you whether they think they're women or not. I asked you why is it unacceptable when them dressing as any other character is not. That is all it is, a character. They are entertaining. If they were dressed as Mickey Mouse (heaven forbid they should dress as Minnie) they would be dressing in a costume and entertaining. What's the difference? This is the question you refuse to answer. I suspect that you just don't know but don't want to admit it, it's more important that you be right.
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 20, 2019 17:02:31 GMT -5
for the 10th and last time, I'm not sure how I am supposed to know when someone is dressed in character versus some guy who truly believes he is a woman. When I see a guy dressed as a woman at a Halloween party I know that is a costume and all in fun. When I watch a comedy where the guy dressing as a woman is a joke, I know it is fun. When I see someone outside dressed as a woman, especially in today's world, there is no way to know. I have never been to a drag queen show. But from what I've seen, it seems more geared towards adults. I'm not sure why a 3 year old would have to be read to by a guy in a dress. That isn't a double standard. That is me not understanding why? Is it so the little kids laugh and think it's funny? That is an actual question. I don't get the point of it. I didn't ask you whether they think they're women or not. I asked you why is it unacceptable when them dressing as any other character is not. That is all it is, a character. They are entertaining. If they were dressed as Mickey Mouse (heaven forbid they should dress as Minnie) they would be dressing in a costume and entertaining. What's the difference? This is the question you refuse to answer. I suspect that you just don't know but don't want to admit it, it's more important that you be right. To be fair, I think she has answered (in bold). It's that the costume isn't a problem either way, it's her ability to decipher whether the person is indeed wearing a costume or simply believes they are the thing/gender/etc they are dressed as.
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 20, 2019 17:07:55 GMT -5
I didn't ask you whether they think they're women or not. I asked you why is it unacceptable when them dressing as any other character is not. That is all it is, a character. They are entertaining. If they were dressed as Mickey Mouse (heaven forbid they should dress as Minnie) they would be dressing in a costume and entertaining. What's the difference? This is the question you refuse to answer. I suspect that you just don't know but don't want to admit it, it's more important that you be right. To be fair, I think she has answered (in bold). It's that the costume isn't a problem either way, it's her ability to decipher whether the person is indeed wearing a costume or simply believes they are the thing/gender/etc they are dressed as. If that were the case then she would have a problem with all people in costume. Perhaps the person wearing the princess costume actually believes they are a princess. Why on earth would she expose her child to someone like that then? So I don't really believe that is the case.
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 20, 2019 17:11:29 GMT -5
I kind of liken this to a stance of "I don't like gay men, therefore I avoid flamboyant men" which ignores the idea that not all flamboyant men are gay, not all gay men are flamboyant, and all you're really doing is avoiding the stereotype in your mind of what that kind of person is/looks like/acts like. It probably makes you FEEL better, because you're still around gay men but you don't know they're gay...but you manage to actively avoid the people who fit into the stereotype of what you think that kind of person would look like to you.
It makes me think a lot about the old-school things athletes would say. Before we had more people coming out in sports it was a lot of "Nope, I never played with anyone gay"...as if the way you'd know someone was gay was they'd take their uniform off and have a sequined jock strap on.
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 20, 2019 17:17:42 GMT -5
To be fair, I think she has answered (in bold). It's that the costume isn't a problem either way, it's her ability to decipher whether the person is indeed wearing a costume or simply believes they are the thing/gender/etc they are dressed as. If that were the case then she would have a problem with all people in costume. Perhaps the person wearing the princess costume actually believes they are a princess. Why on earth would she expose her child to someone like that then? So I don't really believe that is the case. Because there aren't a string of people growing in society to a relatively large grouping that believe they are literal fairy tale princesses, or believe they are actually Mickey Mouse, etc. I fully believe her in this instance. She has a picture in her head of what a transgender person looks like. She can't distinguish visually between a transgender person and a drag queen. In her mind she has a reasonable belief that most people who dress up as Mickey Mouse to read to kids are doing so as a costume, rather than a genuine belief that they are actually Mickey Mouse. And honestly, whether you agree with her or not...that's probably a pretty legitimate belief in comparison of those 2 things. Out of 100 biological men dressed as women going to read books to kids at a library, there is a FAR greater chance that those individuals are actually transgendered than the chances of 100 biological men dressed as Mickey Mouse doing the same who actually believe they are Mickey Mouse.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 17:26:56 GMT -5
She would probably also be shocked to find out that many people mentioned in her favorite bible stories were not white... Like Jesus! Wait, what?! How dare you! All the “pictures” of him show that he had fair skin, blond hair and blue eyes!!! You speak pure blasphemy! J/k. Off to finish the thread.....
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 20, 2019 18:01:19 GMT -5
I'm not Catholic or Mexican. I'm also Agnostic. I was taught to love the mentally ill but not accept their illness as the norm. I can respect someone as a person but still think they need help. If my daughter was anorexic, I would still love her but I would get her help. I would not buy into her illness that made her think she was fat. I wouldn't take her shopping in the fat section as stores just because that is what she believed. If she thought she was a man, I would still love her but I would not humor her and tell her that she was suddenly a man. You mistake loving someone with buying into their delusions. I do not. So drag queens are mentally ill? Says who? You? And there is a huge difference between actually being sick such as your example of anorexia and liking to entertain and wear dresses. Drag queens can choose not to dress in drag and usually do when they're not entertaining. An anorexic person is not able to just shut the anorexia off. You're grasping at straws and comparing apples and oranges to try and defend the foolishness you are spewing. Typical. Clothing and makeup isn't a natural part of human nature. There is no reason why women should love skirts, but men shouldn't. Except society. Men used to be the only ones to wear heel. Now if a man wears heels, he's the weird one. Honestly, our society doesn't make any sense. So - whatevs...you do you.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 18:13:00 GMT -5
for the 10th and last time, I'm not sure how I am supposed to know when someone is dressed in character versus some guy who truly believes he is a woman. When I see a guy dressed as a woman at a Halloween party I know that is a costume and all in fun. When I watch a comedy where the guy dressing as a woman is a joke, I know it is fun. When I see someone outside dressed as a woman, especially in today's world, there is no way to know. I have never been to a drag queen show. But from what I've seen, it seems more geared towards adults. I'm not sure why a 3 year old would have to be read to by a guy in a dress. That isn't a double standard. That is me not understanding why? Is it so the little kids laugh and think it's funny? That is an actual question. I don't get the point of it. I didn't ask you whether they think they're women or not. I asked you why is it unacceptable when them dressing as any other character is not. That is all it is, a character. They are entertaining. If they were dressed as Mickey Mouse (heaven forbid they should dress as Minnie) they would be dressing in a costume and entertaining. What's the difference? This is the question you refuse to answer. I suspect that you just don't know but don't want to admit it, it's more important that you be right. You just won’t accept my answer. I think you are one of these people that just argues in hopes of wearing the other person down so they stop. For the last time, there is zero way for me to know if someone is just in character or a transgender. Not to mention, I don’t understand why a man dressed as a woman would be a character appropriate for a child’s story hour. That seems very weird to me. You don’t like my answer and I really don’t care. There is literally nothing else I can say to explain my point.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 20, 2019 18:15:02 GMT -5
I'll be interested to see reactions to this. I read a few studies a few weeks back (maybe related to this one as well I don't know) talking about this. As generations go on, men have less testosterone, and directly related to that is that men become better and better fathers (or more engaged fathers, I would say that classifies as "better"). So is it terrible that guys are having less and less testosterone? Or is it great that they're becoming better, more engaged fathers and partners? I haven't read this, but when my DH and I were trying to get pregnant, it was brought up by his doctor that modern day men and much fewer swimmers than they used to. Could be because of all the medications in the water supply these days.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 18:16:00 GMT -5
To be fair, I think she has answered (in bold). It's that the costume isn't a problem either way, it's her ability to decipher whether the person is indeed wearing a costume or simply believes they are the thing/gender/etc they are dressed as. If that were the case then she would have a problem with all people in costume. Perhaps the person wearing the princess costume actually believes they are a princess. Why on earth would she expose her child to someone like that then? So I don't really believe that is the case. That is ludicrous. How many people dress up as Superman actually believe they are Superman? Counter that with % of men dressed as women that think they are women. You just like to argue.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 18:22:16 GMT -5
She doesn't like that we treat transgendered people with hormones and surgery. She wants them to be treated for mental health issues as being delusional. Regardless if chromosomes match their body or not. This horse was dead long ago. As long as they are messing with children, I don’t care what grown adults do to themselves. That doesn’t mean I actually believe a biological male is a female. It means as long as it doesn’t impact my life, I don’t care. When they insisnt on coming in the female locker room or ruining female sports, then I care And believe it or not, I would be nice in person and call someone by whatever name they want. No different than a person that wants to be called a nickname. I would do it to be nice, not because I believe suddenly they are the opposite sex just because they say they are
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 18:23:24 GMT -5
If that were the case then she would have a problem with all people in costume. Perhaps the person wearing the princess costume actually believes they are a princess. Why on earth would she expose her child to someone like that then? So I don't really believe that is the case. That is ludicrous. How many people dress up as Superman actually believe they are Superman? Counter that with % of men dressed as women that think they are women. You just like to argue. A lot of drag queens don't believe they're women. They just like to dress like them and go all out with the makeup and hair. Many dress "normally" most of the time. Then you have me on the other end that despises wearing skirts and dresses and Andi spends more on one makeup buying trip to the mall than I have my entire life.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 20, 2019 18:29:56 GMT -5
She doesn't like that we treat transgendered people with hormones and surgery. She wants them to be treated for mental health issues as being delusional. Regardless if chromosomes match their body or not. This horse was dead long ago. As long as they are messing with children, I don’t care what grown adults do to themselves. That doesn’t mean I actually believe a biological male is a female. It means as long as it doesn’t impact my life, I don’t care. When they insisnt on coming in the female locker room or ruining female sports, then I care And believe it or not, I would be nice in person and call someone by whatever name they want. No different than a person that wants to be called a nickname. I would do it to be nice, not because I believe suddenly they are the opposite sex just because they say they are I know you would. And I've said it before, but that's the worst part. I wonder all the time how many "friends" we have that are only polite and kind to our faces and believe and say a completely different truth when we aren't around. Don't lie to me. Own it and help me know where and with who my family is safe. And you definitely don't want my husband in a bathroom or locker room. He was harassed for not fitting in in women's bath and changing rooms long before he took his first shot of T.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 18:38:01 GMT -5
As long as they are messing with children, I don’t care what grown adults do to themselves. That doesn’t mean I actually believe a biological male is a female. It means as long as it doesn’t impact my life, I don’t care. When they insisnt on coming in the female locker room or ruining female sports, then I care And believe it or not, I would be nice in person and call someone by whatever name they want. No different than a person that wants to be called a nickname. I would do it to be nice, not because I believe suddenly they are the opposite sex just because they say they are I know you would. And I've said it before, but that's the worst part. I wonder all the time how many "friends" we have that are only polite and kind to our faces and believe and say a completely different truth when we aren't around. Don't lie to me. Own it and help me know where and with who my family is safe. And you definitely don't want my husband in a bathroom or locker room. He was harassed for not fitting in in women's bath and changing rooms long before he took his first shot of T. And honestly, that has to be hard not knowing who is just being nice. I’m just being honest with how I would behave. Although I’m very free on here with my own thoughts (not because I’m trying to be mean but there is no point being someone your not on a board). On the other hand, I don’t think people just being polite or nice would really be close friends with you. I can fake my thoughts in quick passings but not long term. Not sure if that makes sense. But if you have friends that seem to accept that your DJ is a man, I would believe then to be sincere. And I don’t mean to say that I wouldn’t be friends with you in real life. Just eventually you would realize I don’t believe your DJ is a man and that would probably be the end of the friendship
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Post by spartyparty on Nov 20, 2019 18:58:01 GMT -5
This is for you Miss T: www.herroom.com/blog/best-panties-for-men/?utm_source=pepperjam&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=43737&affiliate_id=43737&click_id=2898388643&clickId=2898388643"Although it’s not a topic that’s often discussed in the mainstream, many men prefer to wear women’s panties over traditional men’s underwear. Today, women’s panties aren’t only worn by cross dressers and transgender women, but they’re also growing in popularity among everyday heterosexual men. This is often because they find panties more comfortable than boxers, boxer briefs, trunks, and other men’s underwear styles. Many straight men are finding that they simply prefer the soft and silky fabrics, skin-hugging comfort and less bulky cuts that women’s panties offer." Every man you look at now, you're going to be wondering whether or not they are wearing panties.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 19:00:52 GMT -5
This is for you Miss T: www.herroom.com/blog/best-panties-for-men/?utm_source=pepperjam&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=43737&affiliate_id=43737&click_id=2898388643&clickId=2898388643"Although it’s not a topic that’s often discussed in the mainstream, many men prefer to wear women’s panties over traditional men’s underwear. Today, women’s panties aren’t only worn by cross dressers and transgender women, but they’re also growing in popularity among everyday heterosexual men. This is often because they find panties more comfortable than boxers, boxer briefs, trunks, and other men’s underwear styles. Many straight men are finding that they simply prefer the soft and silky fabrics, skin-hugging comfort and less bulky cuts that women’s panties offer." Every man you look at now, you're going to be wondering whether or not they are wearing panties. Meh, I just assume the manly men go commando and assume the beta males wear women’s panties :-p
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 19:02:49 GMT -5
We definitely got off on a tangent. I can say I’m 48 years old and I honestly don’t remember bi-racial marriages being an issue. On the other hand, I lived in a pretty white area growing up (I only remember 2 black families and one of the two was raised by her single, white mom) so maybe I’m clueless?
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 20, 2019 19:14:13 GMT -5
Since he’s not your president, he’s not your problem. Now you're "skirting" the issue. (see what I did there?) I’m not skirting the issue. I don’t give a shit what you canadiens deal with. It’s your problem. You like to make our problems yours for some bizarre reason.
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 20, 2019 19:16:29 GMT -5
I didn't ask you whether they think they're women or not. I asked you why is it unacceptable when them dressing as any other character is not. That is all it is, a character. They are entertaining. If they were dressed as Mickey Mouse (heaven forbid they should dress as Minnie) they would be dressing in a costume and entertaining. What's the difference? This is the question you refuse to answer. I suspect that you just don't know but don't want to admit it, it's more important that you be right. You just won’t accept my answer. I think you are one of these people that just argues in hopes of wearing the other person down so they stop. For the last time, there is zero way for me to know if someone is just in character or a transgender. Not to mention, I don’t understand why a man dressed as a woman would be a character appropriate for a child’s story hour. That seems very weird to me. You don’t like my answer and I really don’t care. There is literally nothing else I can say to explain my point. You never answered, so how can accept your answer or not? A drag queen does not mean they are transgender and vice versa. It isn't the same as them being anorexic or any of the other ridiculous things you have tried to compare it to. My conclusion since you refuse to answer is that your bigotry is not limited to drag queens but rather those you deem too vastly different than you. And why do I need to wear any one down? You probably have absolutely no idea why a man dressed as a masculine character is more suitable to read a book to a child than one dressed as a feminine character other than because you said so. If there is more, I'll get to it later. It's taken me a while to type this between super sets at the gym.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 20, 2019 19:18:13 GMT -5
You just won’t accept my answer. I think you are one of these people that just argues in hopes of wearing the other person down so they stop. For the last time, there is zero way for me to know if someone is just in character or a transgender. Not to mention, I don’t understand why a man dressed as a woman would be a character appropriate for a child’s story hour. That seems very weird to me. You don’t like my answer and I really don’t care. There is literally nothing else I can say to explain my point. You never answered, so how can accept your answer or not? A drag queen does not mean they are transgender and vice versa. It isn't the same as them being anorexic or any of the other ridiculous things you have tried to compare it to. My conclusion since you refuse to answer is that your bigotry is not limited to drag queens but rather those you deem too vastly different than you. And why do I need to wear any one down? You probably have absolutely no idea why a man dressed as a masculine character is more suitable to read a book to a child than one dressed as a feminine character other than because you said so. If there is more, I'll get to it later. It's taken me a while to type this between super sets at the gym. I am going to just agree to disagree with you. I’ve answered several times. Other posters have explained to you and you are still insisting I’m not answering. You don’t like my answer. My answer isn’t going to change so to continue this dialogue is waste of time.
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spartyparty
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Post by spartyparty on Nov 20, 2019 19:20:06 GMT -5
This is for you Miss T: www.herroom.com/blog/best-panties-for-men/?utm_source=pepperjam&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=43737&affiliate_id=43737&click_id=2898388643&clickId=2898388643"Although it’s not a topic that’s often discussed in the mainstream, many men prefer to wear women’s panties over traditional men’s underwear. Today, women’s panties aren’t only worn by cross dressers and transgender women, but they’re also growing in popularity among everyday heterosexual men. This is often because they find panties more comfortable than boxers, boxer briefs, trunks, and other men’s underwear styles. Many straight men are finding that they simply prefer the soft and silky fabrics, skin-hugging comfort and less bulky cuts that women’s panties offer." Every man you look at now, you're going to be wondering whether or not they are wearing panties. Meh, I just assume the manly men go commando and assume the beta males wear women’s panties :-p I wouldn't be too sure about that...usually the "manly men" are compensating for something. Also, going commando just means the dude is going to have shit stains in his pants rather than his drawers.
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