TheHaitian
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Post by TheHaitian on Nov 18, 2019 19:17:56 GMT -5
This is in 2019 y’all!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 20:13:37 GMT -5
In 2019, people are still STUPID.
I’ve lived in the Memphis TN area my whole life. At my old house, I could literally walk to Mississippi. When DBF and I were looking for a house, I couldn’t bring myself to consider moving to Mississippi even though it wouldn’t have been a bad commute (it actually would’ve been a shorter commute than where we moved to) or unreasonable housing prices. Because...... it’s freaking Mississippi. The history, and the number of backwards ass people that still live there...... no thanks.
There are Memphians that don’t dare go to Mississippi even though it’s close for shopping or whatever. The northern MS county closest to Memphis thrives because of their proximity to Memphis. Many of the residents earn their money in Memphis. But a lot of Black Memphians would rather drive 20 or 30 minutes across the city to get what they need than drive 5 or 10 minutes to northern MS and risk getting caught up in some stupid shit.
One time, I was at a red light in MS and a driver (a Black man) honked to get my attention. When I rolled down my window, he said “Your brake lights are out. You know you’re in Mississippi, so be careful”. Thank you, sir.
The last encounter I personally had with a racist that had the balls to make himself known, happened at a Home Depot in Mississippi. When I lived closer, I shopped in MS because it was convenient, but I was also always wary. I have a coworker that tells the story of stopping for gas in a small town in MS, on his way further south. The white man manning the register warned him that he didn’t want to get caught in that town after nightfall. This was within the last decade. Seriously?!
All that to say, it’s no surprise to me that this happened in Mississippi in 2019.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 20:20:56 GMT -5
1 on 6 believe the earth is flat so it's not a huge surprise to me.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 18, 2019 20:36:57 GMT -5
A lot has changed in Mississippi for the good, Carl. But a lot of the old still remains. If you are unfamiliar with the name Byron De La Beckwith, give this link below a read. Some of that 'culture' still resides in Mississippi, especially in rural areas, and to be fair to Mississippi, elsewhere around the country. But Mississippi is in a class all by its self. Byron De La Beckwith
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 18, 2019 20:43:41 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 18, 2019 21:00:39 GMT -5
From Tenn’s link
“After spending hours scouring the text and sitting down with her pastor, the owner wrote that she finally concluded that the reasoning behind her decision to turn away Welch’s brother and his fiancee was “incorrect.””
”Incorrect”? WTF? She could not admit to being in the wrong?
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Post by laterbloomer on Nov 18, 2019 21:17:31 GMT -5
From Tenn’s link “After spending hours scouring the text and sitting down with her pastor, the owner wrote that she finally concluded that the reasoning behind her decision to turn away Welch’s brother and his fiancee was “incorrect.””
”Incorrect”? WTF? She could not admit to being in the wrong? That's some real careful wording right there, she doesn't think she is wrong. She just couldn't find back up.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 18, 2019 22:26:34 GMT -5
Sadly I think all kinds of people like this are coming out of the woodwork.
I lost my faith in people last week. There was going to be a story hour for children at a library I'm familiar with and it ended up being cancelled. The drag queens doing the story hour received multiple death threats. I could not believe the comments I read on Facebook from supposed good Christians in 2019.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 19, 2019 0:54:49 GMT -5
Sadly I think all kinds of people like this are coming out of the woodwork. I lost my faith in people last week. There was going to be a story hour for children at a library I'm familiar with and it ended up being cancelled. The drag queens doing the story hour received multiple death threats. I could not believe the comments I read on Facebook from supposed good Christians in 2019. Why in the world were drag queens doing story hour?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 19, 2019 7:01:46 GMT -5
Maybe they were trying to do something nice for their community. If there was such a surplus of children's programs at the library there wouldn't have been availability for them to host a story hour. They passed the same background checks as any other library volunteer.
You don't agree with it, don't take your kids. The death threats and the nasty comments I saw on Facebook are just wrong. They are part of the problem in this country. And I can't believe this is an issue in 2019.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 19, 2019 8:09:15 GMT -5
All week has been like this for me too. It is 2019 but it's not what or where I thought it would be.
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 19, 2019 9:02:40 GMT -5
Sadly I think all kinds of people like this are coming out of the woodwork. I lost my faith in people last week. There was going to be a story hour for children at a library I'm familiar with and it ended up being cancelled. The drag queens doing the story hour received multiple death threats. I could not believe the comments I read on Facebook from supposed good Christians in 2019. Why in the world were drag queens doing story hour? Why not? They're people just like you are.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 19, 2019 9:06:45 GMT -5
It's not as if the drag queens go into great detail why they are men who like to get dressed up as highly made up women and don't bother reading children's books to children.
It's not some subversive recruitment drive.
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 19, 2019 9:07:48 GMT -5
Maybe they were trying to do something nice for their community. If there was such a surplus of children's programs at the library there wouldn't have been availability for them to host a story hour. They passed the same background checks as any other library volunteer. You don't agree with it, don't take your kids. The death threats and the nasty comments I saw on Facebook are just wrong. They are part of the problem in this country. And I can't believe this is an issue in 2019. Preach! I don't understand why people (especially the supposed "Christians") don't understand that God created people of all different kinds. You may not agree with another person's choices, and that's ok. But threatening people or actually doing them harm is not ok. They are as much God's children as you.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 19, 2019 9:08:56 GMT -5
Why in the world were drag queens doing story hour? Why not? They're people just like you are. Musical performers even. They wouldn't have a sexualized show. Just singing and dancing and reading in fun outfits while adding diversity. Seems like a good option. We think of drag queens in bars but that's because bars provided safe Havens for gays, Trans, queers and just different people. Doesn't mean that is the only place they belonged.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 19, 2019 10:21:54 GMT -5
Maybe they were trying to do something nice for their community. If there was such a surplus of children's programs at the library there wouldn't have been availability for them to host a story hour. They passed the same background checks as any other library volunteer. You don't agree with it, don't take your kids. The death threats and the nasty comments I saw on Facebook are just wrong. They are part of the problem in this country. And I can't believe this is an issue in 2019. Oh I definitely wouldn't be taking my children to it. But I also would not attack them or threaten them.
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Post by teen persuasion on Nov 19, 2019 10:31:20 GMT -5
Sadly I think all kinds of people like this are coming out of the woodwork. I lost my faith in people last week. There was going to be a story hour for children at a library I'm familiar with and it ended up being cancelled. The drag queens doing the story hour received multiple death threats. I could not believe the comments I read on Facebook from supposed good Christians in 2019. My boss just got back from the NYLA conference, and was telling me about one session on dealing with controversy. The speaker was from a library in another part of our region, and the issues she'd had with a Nazi group threatening them over drag queen story time. The local police wouldn't get involved, just told her to cancel (no, then "they" win thru intimidation). Eventually the library went to the local media and shamed the police into involvement, but the media attention served to draw a spotlight to the issue, and lots of positive feedback. They were getting some horrible comments on FB ("why don't you just die/kill yourself") from the Nazis and others, and really wanted to remove that from their page, but felt it more important to leave it to show everyone exactly what the haters were saying. In the end, on the day of the program there were less than a handful of protesters, and the lead Nazi guy drove by on his motorcycle, but kept going when he saw the large positive turnout.
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Post by swamp on Nov 19, 2019 10:49:26 GMT -5
"we don't believe in mixed race?"
It's not a freakin' fairy tale, it's people. What an idiot.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 19, 2019 11:14:32 GMT -5
Pure and simple, this is hate in action. Stop using “faith” as a cover for hate. God is all about love. NOTHING about true Christian faith permits hate. She know it, and knows she’d lose if she “argued” about her faith. She’s not a Christian, she’s a hater.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 19, 2019 11:18:54 GMT -5
It is an overt reminder that racism is still alive and well today. Most people hide it better than this idiot which is scary and insidious and creates a myriad of other difficult to fix issues. But anyone who argues that racism is gone is an idiot or lying to themselves.
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Post by swamp on Nov 19, 2019 11:22:16 GMT -5
I seriously don't get it. I really can't grasp why interracial marriages are an issue, or why you can't host a black person at your business.
I sort of can understand racism as making assumptions about people of other races, or being nervous about meeting people from a different culture, but people are people. Who the fuck cares what color they are?
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Post by bean29 on Nov 19, 2019 11:25:12 GMT -5
Maybe they were trying to do something nice for their community. If there was such a surplus of children's programs at the library there wouldn't have been availability for them to host a story hour. They passed the same background checks as any other library volunteer. You don't agree with it, don't take your kids. The death threats and the nasty comments I saw on Facebook are just wrong. They are part of the problem in this country. And I can't believe this is an issue in 2019. Preach! I don't understand why people (especially the supposed "Christians") don't understand that God created people of all different kinds. You may not agree with another person's choices, and that's ok. But threatening people or actually doing them harm is not ok. They are as much God's children as you. I actually think it is good to show your children that being different is not bad - and it can be entirely normal and acceptable. When my kids were teenagers I took them to visit a cousin who is gay. Before we went there - I explained to my kids that she and her GF were a "couple". My feeling was that my kids being gay was not the worst thing that could happen to them, being gay and feeling so unaccepted that you might contemplate suicide - that is the worst thing that can happen.
I know about 2 years ago, my kids told me their younger cousin asked me what the family would do if someone came out as Gay. Fortunately it was DH's side and I responded that there were several "gay" family members and that they were "out" to the family. My DH told a story that his Grandpa once asked one of his cousins who is a lesbian, when she was going to have children. Her response was "Grandpa, you know I am a lesbian, I am never going to have children. My niece who was getting married had a shower that coincided with Pride Fest, one of the male cousins rode along with his mom to the venue dressed as a woman - and flat out told us he was headed to pride fest. He was about 18 at the time.
I also have a cousin on my Dad's side of the family that has a son who is gay, and my Aunt (the child's grandmother) once told me there were several cousins that were Gay. I did not feel it appropriate to pry - because she did not seem to be in a good place at the time, and my parent's would not be 100% comfortable with that, so I did not ask any questions. I kind of think I know, and I am not sure if she knew about her grandson at the time, b/c he would have been pretty young.
My Catholic Mother has at least 2 nieces that are Gay, and a great nephew. She has 2 close friends that have children that are Gay, I know of a third from her church, but they are friends of my Mom's friends, but not part of her social circle. My Mom's friends are accepting, not quite comfortable - they think it is wrong, but they hold these individuals close and dear - they don't want to see violence against them and they don't shun them or shut them out. If my Mom was invited to a gay wedding for a family member I actually think she would attend.
I would like to see the venue that denied the inter-racial couple's wedding sued. I don't know what can be done about the library event - unless security is provided.
I have a niece that is married to a black man and a First Cousin that has a bi-racial child and I think I have a cousin that is married to a bi-racial woman. She is a lovely person. People just need to get over themselves.
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Post by justme on Nov 19, 2019 11:27:18 GMT -5
Why not? They're people just like you are. Musical performers even. They wouldn't have a sexualized show. Just singing and dancing and reading in fun outfits while adding diversity. Seems like a good option. We think of drag queens in bars but that's because bars provided safe Havens for gays, Trans, queers and just different people. Doesn't mean that is the only place they belonged. If you'd take your kids to see Mickey Mouse or to princess story time then I don't see why you'd have a problem with drag queens. They're all just dressing up as a character they are not. I bet you most of the kids don't even realize it's men underneath there unless their parents have told them or they've watched Drag Race.
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 19, 2019 11:41:19 GMT -5
Preach! I don't understand why people (especially the supposed "Christians") don't understand that God created people of all different kinds. You may not agree with another person's choices, and that's ok. But threatening people or actually doing them harm is not ok. They are as much God's children as you. I actually think it is good to show your children that being different is not bad - and it can be entirely normal and acceptable. When my kids were teenagers I took them to visit a cousin who is gay. Before we went there - I explained to my kids that she and her GF were a "couple". My feeling was that my kids being gay was not the worst thing that could happen to them, being gay and feeling so unaccepted that you might contemplate suicide - that is the worst thing that can happen.
I know about 2 years ago, my kids told me their younger cousin asked me what the family would do if someone came out as Gay. Fortunately it was DH's side and I responded that there were several "gay" family members and that they were "out" to the family. My DH told a story that his Grandpa once asked one of his cousins who is a lesbian, when she was going to have children. Her response was "Grandpa, you know I am a lesbian, I am never going to have children. My niece who was getting married had a shower that coincided with Pride Fest, one of the male cousins rode along with his mom to the venue dressed as a woman - and flat out told us he was headed to pride fest. He was about 18 at the time.
I also have a cousin on my Dad's side of the family that has a son who is gay, and my Aunt (the child's grandmother) once told me there were several cousins that were Gay. I did not feel it appropriate to pry - because she did not seem to be in a good place at the time, and my parent's would not be 100% comfortable with that, so I did not ask any questions. I kind of think I know, and I am not sure if she knew about her grandson at the time, b/c he would have been pretty young.
My Catholic Mother has at least 2 nieces that are Gay, and a great nephew. She has 2 close friends that have children that are Gay, I know of a third from her church, but they are friends of my Mom's friends, but not part of her social circle. My Mom's friends are accepting, not quite comfortable - they think it is wrong, but they hold these individuals close and dear - they don't want to see violence against them and they don't shun them or shut them out. If my Mom was invited to a gay wedding for a family member I actually think she would attend.
I would like to see the venue that denied the inter-racial couple's wedding sued. I don't know what can be done about the library event - unless security is provided.
I have a niece that is married to a black man and a First Cousin that has a bi-racial child and I think I have a cousin that is married to a bi-racial woman. She is a lovely person. People just need to get over themselves.
I didn't mean to not point out differences in people. Maybe I worded that wrong. Just that it doesn't make one any better or worse than the other based on how they live their lives. I grew up in a traditional Mexican family of devout Catholics. We have several family members who are gay. Both my daughters have at one time dated women. They both are dating men currently, but it doesn't matter either way to any of us. Love is love. I'm straight as an arrow, but I don't think any less of those that aren't. Of my main friend group, about half of them are gay. I do feel for those who are afraid to come out to their families. I can't imagine not being allowed or being afraid to be who I am. I really hope this crap stops, but given the way things are going now, I won't hold my breath.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 11:43:34 GMT -5
Musical performers even. They wouldn't have a sexualized show. Just singing and dancing and reading in fun outfits while adding diversity. Seems like a good option. We think of drag queens in bars but that's because bars provided safe Havens for gays, Trans, queers and just different people. Doesn't mean that is the only place they belonged. If you'd take your kids to see Mickey Mouse or to princess story time then I don't see why you'd have a problem with drag queens. They're all just dressing up as a character they are not. I bet you most of the kids don't even realize it's men underneath there unless their parents have told them or they've watched Drag Race. Exactly. It's not even like they're all gay if that's what you're opposed to.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 11:50:01 GMT -5
My family has a little of everything. Adopted children of other races, interracial marriages...and then there's my black cousin that gave birth to a little blue eyed red head. LOL My uncle came out as gay 20 years ago after he raised a family of five kids and then divorced. Everyone in our family loves his partner (actually way more than we did his wife). I have a picture on my desk of my kids at older son's birthday party a few years back and he's standing next to his black cousins and his Chinese siblings. We're all family, nothing less. That people put some much negative energy into this is a bit mind boggling to me.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Nov 19, 2019 13:00:46 GMT -5
Sadly I think all kinds of people like this are coming out of the woodwork. I lost my faith in people last week. There was going to be a story hour for children at a library I'm familiar with and it ended up being cancelled. The drag queens doing the story hour received multiple death threats. I could not believe the comments I read on Facebook from supposed good Christians in 2019. My hometown library hosted a drag queen story hour a few months ago and I was so happy to see that the "wall of love" people (to shield kids from protesters' nasty signs) vastly outnumbered the few protesters, and that the library was packed with families who showed up for story hour.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 19, 2019 13:21:51 GMT -5
I really wish they hadn't cancelled. It seemed like the driving force was the police department didn't want to deal with any potential issues.
It is disheartening to see these things happening in 2019. I don't know how we make it better.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 19, 2019 13:41:26 GMT -5
Sadly I think all kinds of people like this are coming out of the woodwork. I lost my faith in people last week. There was going to be a story hour for children at a library I'm familiar with and it ended up being cancelled. The drag queens doing the story hour received multiple death threats. I could not believe the comments I read on Facebook from supposed good Christians in 2019. Why in the world were drag queens doing story hour? Why not? It's a way to teach acceptance of people who are different. We do it all the time up here and the kids have a great time. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-drag-queen-storytime-daycare-1.4927005
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 19, 2019 15:05:38 GMT -5
Preach! I don't understand why people (especially the supposed "Christians") don't understand that God created people of all different kinds. You may not agree with another person's choices, and that's ok. But threatening people or actually doing them harm is not ok. They are as much God's children as you. I actually think it is good to show your children that being different is not bad - and it can be entirely normal and acceptable. When my kids were teenagers I took them to visit a cousin who is gay. Before we went there - I explained to my kids that she and her GF were a "couple". My feeling was that my kids being gay was not the worst thing that could happen to them, being gay and feeling so unaccepted that you might contemplate suicide - that is the worst thing that can happen.
I know about 2 years ago, my kids told me their younger cousin asked me what the family would do if someone came out as Gay. Fortunately it was DH's side and I responded that there were several "gay" family members and that they were "out" to the family. My DH told a story that his Grandpa once asked one of his cousins who is a lesbian, when she was going to have children. Her response was "Grandpa, you know I am a lesbian, I am never going to have children. My niece who was getting married had a shower that coincided with Pride Fest, one of the male cousins rode along with his mom to the venue dressed as a woman - and flat out told us he was headed to pride fest. He was about 18 at the time.
I also have a cousin on my Dad's side of the family that has a son who is gay, and my Aunt (the child's grandmother) once told me there were several cousins that were Gay. I did not feel it appropriate to pry - because she did not seem to be in a good place at the time, and my parent's would not be 100% comfortable with that, so I did not ask any questions. I kind of think I know, and I am not sure if she knew about her grandson at the time, b/c he would have been pretty young.
My Catholic Mother has at least 2 nieces that are Gay, and a great nephew. She has 2 close friends that have children that are Gay, I know of a third from her church, but they are friends of my Mom's friends, but not part of her social circle. My Mom's friends are accepting, not quite comfortable - they think it is wrong, but they hold these individuals close and dear - they don't want to see violence against them and they don't shun them or shut them out. If my Mom was invited to a gay wedding for a family member I actually think she would attend.
I would like to see the venue that denied the inter-racial couple's wedding sued. I don't know what can be done about the library event - unless security is provided.
I have a niece that is married to a black man and a First Cousin that has a bi-racial child and I think I have a cousin that is married to a bi-racial woman. She is a lovely person. People just need to get over themselves.
Lesbians have children, it’s easier for them of course to have them. She must not want children which is a whole nother thing.
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