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Post by chiver78 on Nov 14, 2019 12:21:43 GMT -5
Santa Clarita, CA school shootingSanta Clarita, California, high school shooting leaves multiple people injured, suspect located "This is an active shooter situation," said the Santa Clarita Valley sheriff's office. "If you live in neighborhoods anywhere near Saugus High, PLEASE LOCK DOORS and stay inside." Multiple people were injured, at least two of them critically, in a shooting at a Southern California high school on Thursday morning, officials said. About an hour after the shooting at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita was reported at 8 a.m., authorities said they had located the suspected shooter and that the person is "no longer a threat."
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 14, 2019 12:27:27 GMT -5
I was just about to post that.
Thoughts and prayers.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 14, 2019 12:32:08 GMT -5
Thoughts and prayers too because they stop future school shootings.
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Post by swamp on Nov 14, 2019 12:52:25 GMT -5
I'm sure thoughts and prayers will fix it.
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Post by imawino on Nov 14, 2019 13:16:53 GMT -5
I'm certain all the folks (on this board even) who recently praised trumps tweets about how we needed action in Mexico after those white children were shot in Mexico will immediately start pressing him for action to prevent children getting shot here at home.  |
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 14, 2019 13:30:23 GMT -5
I'm certain all the folks (on this board even) who recently praised trumps tweets about how we needed action in Mexico after those white children were shot in Mexico will immediately start pressing him for action to prevent children getting shot here at home. Don't hold your breath. |
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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 14, 2019 17:28:49 GMT -5
I was wondering whether this was a time for "thoughts and prayers" or if it is time to "declare war" on gun violence? Like trying to put in some common sense limitations on who can own what?
Maybe there are too many immigrant kids in this school - the names of those interviewed mentioned in the reports didn't sound like their ancestors came over with the Mayflower, in which case → who gives a flying …. among certain people here. You know the "well done" trump crowd. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 14, 2019 17:38:14 GMT -5
I'm certain all the folks (on this board even) who recently praised trumps tweets about how we needed action in Mexico after those white children were shot in Mexico will immediately start pressing him for action to prevent children getting shot here at home. |
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 14, 2019 23:53:03 GMT -5
Your solution is??
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 15, 2019 0:09:10 GMT -5
What's yours? You were freaking the fuck out over the family in Mexico, but this is worthy of a shrug and nothing more? |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 15, 2019 0:28:43 GMT -5
I don't see anyone coming up with a solution. Not at a local, state, or federal level. The powers that be say "its too soon" to talk about a solution after kids and adults are victims of a mass shooting. But kids and adults keep on being murdered. So lets just put that "it's too soon" to talk about a solution to rest and start now. Otherwise the next victims just may be yours, mine, and others family members. |
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Post by steff on Nov 15, 2019 0:37:33 GMT -5
womb to delivery room. That's all Gop'ers care about. After that, kids can die for all they care. They do love to use them as props when it suits them. Feigned outrage over kids being killed in Mexico, not a peep over kids dying in school rooms in America. THEY.DON'T.CARE.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 15, 2019 9:00:45 GMT -5
womb to delivery room. That's all Gop'ers care about. After that, kids can die for all they care. They do love to use them as props when it suits them. Feigned outrage over kids being killed in Mexico, not a peep over kids dying in school rooms in America. THEY.DON'T.CARE. Fallopian tube to vaginal canal. It is erroneous to include the entire delivery room. That would imply if something went wrong with the baby immediately after the birth, they would care. It is also incorrect to state that they start caring at the point of conception, as they work against sexeduation and birth control. I may be wrong, but it doesn't seem to be about the baby at all 🤔 |
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 15, 2019 9:20:40 GMT -5
What's yours? You were freaking the fuck out over the family in Mexico, but this is worthy of a shrug and nothing more? That was brown people shooting white people so of course it deserves more attention and action. White people shooting white people is the price we pay for our rights. I remember a certain poster who said if I see a white man in body armor with an automatic weapon walking down my street to mind my own business. But if I see a group of brown men talking in a funny language I better call the cops ASAP because clearly they are terrorists. Racism at it's finest. |
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 15, 2019 14:00:21 GMT -5
What's yours? You were freaking the fuck out over the family in Mexico, but this is worthy of a shrug and nothing more? I have great concern over this, We can argue all day over if he didn't have that gun, this would not have happened. Here are the report as I last heard, Nice kid, Kept to himself, made the Honor roll, good athlete, he was in my class, I did project with him,
I never would have thought he would do something like this. What were the warning signs? any one offer a motive? Ok, what is your solution, because I don't have one. Go out gather up all the guns??
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 15, 2019 14:18:34 GMT -5
From what I read, the killer was 16 and used a hand gun to murder the students. He is not legally allowed to have a handgun as he is only 16. There is already a law on the books that should have prevented this but someone gave him access to a handgun. Did a family member not lock it up? Did he buy it on the street?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 15, 2019 14:20:09 GMT -5
What's yours? You were freaking the fuck out over the family in Mexico, but this is worthy of a shrug and nothing more? That was brown people shooting white people so of course it deserves more attention and action. White people shooting white people is the price we pay for our rights. I remember a certain poster who said if I see a white man in body armor with an automatic weapon walking down my street to mind my own business. But if I see a group of brown men talking in a funny language I better call the cops ASAP because clearly they are terrorists. Racism at it's finest. I see it differently. How many brown kids are murdered each day in Chicago? Why are only threads started on here when it is white kids being shot up at school? Are those brown lives in Chicago not deserving of outrage...you scream racism at those of us on the right but those of you on the left aren't in an uproar until it is the little white kids getting murdered. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 14:21:06 GMT -5
Doesn't California have the strictest gun laws in the Nation ?
Like Chicago ?
So what will be the answer to this latest tragedy.
More gun laws that only law abiding citizens will follow ?
Seems effective as thoughts and prayers.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 16, 2019 9:11:42 GMT -5
Federal and State investigators are trying to determine whether the handgun used by the suspect was made from parts separately bought and the put together.
Also, OHBOY!! the authors try either because of a huge lack of knowledge, or, an effort to sensationalize the story, or both. This is even worse than an opinion piece!
These so called GHOST guns are unserialized weapons manufactured from parts that can be ordered thru the mail or machined parts acquired from underground makers!!!!
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 16, 2019 9:37:01 GMT -5
That was brown people shooting white people so of course it deserves more attention and action. White people shooting white people is the price we pay for our rights. I remember a certain poster who said if I see a white man in body armor with an automatic weapon walking down my street to mind my own business. But if I see a group of brown men talking in a funny language I better call the cops ASAP because clearly they are terrorists. Racism at it's finest. I see it differently. How many brown kids are murdered each day in Chicago? Why are only threads started on here when it is white kids being shot up at school? Are those brown lives in Chicago not deserving of outrage...you scream racism at those of us on the right but those of you on the left aren't in an uproar until it is the little white kids getting murdered. I swing pretty hard to the left and I'm probably the most vocal poster about Hispanics. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 18, 2019 0:45:41 GMT -5
the first step would be to allow the CDC to collect data again.
without it, there can be no solutions.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 18, 2019 0:49:01 GMT -5
Doesn't California have the strictest gun laws in the Nation ? Like Chicago ? no, it's 6th. Illinois is 7th.
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 18, 2019 7:51:44 GMT -5
this is a column by a reporter who was covering that game. a very good friend of mine is a sports photographer for the same newspaper. my friend was assigned a different game to cover, thankfully. I can't imagine being in that spot, although Kevin paints a very vivid picture. Gunshots and darkness under the Friday night lights |
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 18, 2019 11:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 11:55:38 GMT -5
Doesn't California have the strictest gun laws in the Nation ? Like Chicago ? no, it's 6th. Illinois is 7th.
I said Chicago because they are more restrictive than the state of Illinois. Not aware of how it stands when comparing to states. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 18, 2019 12:18:11 GMT -5
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 18, 2019 12:18:49 GMT -5
Thoughts and prayers.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 18, 2019 14:11:23 GMT -5
no, it's 6th. Illinois is 7th.
I said Chicago because they are more restrictive than the state of Illinois. Not aware of how it stands when comparing to states. It is pretty ineffective to have strict laws so very close to a location that does not have strict laws. Let's take Mexico as an example. Their guns are almost all from the USA - brought over illegally. Just like Chicago is affected by the laws of Illinois, as well Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin. A national standard would help evaluate the effectiveness of certain laws. |
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