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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2019 16:15:34 GMT -5
I'd like to submit the second piece of evidence to their hypocrisy: I wonder if Don jr. had a special copy made for his dad. There might be multiple syllable words in the book so cartoons might be needed for don sr. to understand it.
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Post by justme on Nov 5, 2019 16:34:18 GMT -5
I'd like to submit the second piece of evidence to their hypocrisy: I wonder if Don jr. had a special copy made for his dad. There might be multiple syllable words in the book so cartoons might be needed for don sr. to understand it. Wrong trump
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 5, 2019 17:26:35 GMT -5
I'd like to submit the second piece of evidence to their hypocrisy: Wonder who ghost wrote it.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 20:45:50 GMT -5
I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. Pretty sure there are laws against that!
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 20:49:36 GMT -5
I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
They are protected from legal ramifications from their employers - like being fired or demoted for whistleblowing.
They are not protected from every loon with a gun. Remember the guy who showed up at the pizza parlor in DC with a gun to liberate all the small children being held captive in the basement as part of Clinton's child sex ring?
The world is full of nut jobs, of any political stripe, left or right. Anti abortion people who will murder doctors who do abortions. Green activist who will blow up excavation equipment to prevent earth moving activities. It's always a good idea to try to not become a target of the nut jobs. That's what this whistleblower is trying to do, and the law allows him that protection.
You would most certainly not be concerned if some one in Trumps side was in hiding,, you would out them in a second!!
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Post by dondub on Nov 5, 2019 20:53:51 GMT -5
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. Pretty sure there are laws against that! . Well there should be.😎
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Post by laterbloomer on Nov 5, 2019 21:15:43 GMT -5
I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
They are protected from legal ramifications from their employers - like being fired or demoted for whistleblowing.
They are not protected from every loon with a gun. Remember the guy who showed up at the pizza parlor in DC with a gun to liberate all the small children being held captive in the basement as part of Clinton's child sex ring?
The world is full of nut jobs, of any political stripe, left or right. Anti abortion people who will murder doctors who do abortions. Green activist who will blow up excavation equipment to prevent earth moving activities. It's always a good idea to try to not become a target of the nut jobs. That's what this whistleblower is trying to do, and the law allows him that protection.
Not to.mention Trump pretty much put a hit out on them.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 21:42:36 GMT -5
I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. You know,,, I get all kinds of grief, name calling, time outs, and threats of banishment, for using Wooooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again,
When I don't agree with something that has been posted
Instead of calling someone, dense, stupid, moron, racist, and several others that I have been called when they don't agree with something I posted. Must be a liberal thing, throwing out personal insults like that, Cause, I don't think I have ever seen a post by jma23, Value Buy, Jkapp, Miss Tequila, Phil5185, or sesfw. ever call some stupid, dense, moron, racist, and several other personal insults. God hep us if I Woooo Hooooo!!
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Post by steff on Nov 5, 2019 22:01:55 GMT -5
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 5, 2019 22:04:50 GMT -5
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. Pretty sure there are laws against that! Yes. If he gets killed, or beat into a coma, the person who had done it would have done something illegal.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 22:09:07 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, of all those lining up to tell their Ukraine stories,, how many were not appointed by a Democrat?
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Post by kadee79 on Nov 5, 2019 22:32:44 GMT -5
And Rand Paul is saying he will like make the whistle blower's name public. If he does, he should be arrested & prosecuted!
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 5, 2019 23:17:40 GMT -5
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. You know,,, I get all kinds of grief, name calling, time outs, and threats of banishment, for using Wooooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again,
When I don't agree with something that has been posted
Instead of calling someone, dense, stupid, moron, racist, and several others that I have been called when they don't agree with something I posted. Must be a liberal thing, throwing out personal insults like that, Cause, I don't think I have ever seen a post by jma23, Value Buy, Jkapp, Miss Tequila, Phil5185, or sesfw. ever call some stupid, dense, moron, racist, and several other personal insults. God hep us if I Woooo Hooooo!!
Need a safe space? Perhaps an Emotional Support Animal?
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2019 23:51:30 GMT -5
I wonder if Don jr. had a special copy made for his dad. There might be multiple syllable words in the book so cartoons might be needed for don sr. to understand it. Wrong trump Make that two special copies.
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Post by steff on Nov 6, 2019 0:01:42 GMT -5
Kurt Volker appointed by Rex Tillerson (Republican) Gordon Sonderland donated $1 million to the resident in the white house's inauguration fund & was appointed by the resident (Republican) Fiona Hill worked under George W & Obama, but appointed to her position by the resident (Republican)
William Taylor worked under George W & Obama, but appointed to current position by the resident (Republican)
Laura Cooper Civil servant
Maria Yovanovitch joined the Foreign Service in 1986. Nominated for ambassador positions by both George W & Obama. Nominated for Ambassador to Ukraine in August 2016 by Obama (Dem) George Kent joined the State Department Foreign Service in 1992. Appointed to current position in 2018 by the resident (Republican) Michael McKinley joined Foreign Service in 1982. Served under multiple Presidents in State Department/Ambassador appointed to Senior Advisor to Secretary of State in 2018 (Republican)
Alexander Vindman joined military in 1998. Served in the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs of Staff under Obama (Dem). Accepted assignment to the National Security Council in 2018.
Potential witnesses to testify:
John Eisenberg Appointed by Michael Flynn (Republican) Michael Ellis Senior Associate Counsel to the President and Deputy Legal Advisor to the NSC (Republican)
John Bolton appointed by the resident (Republican)
Russel Vought appointed to current position by the resident (Republican)
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Post by tallguy on Nov 6, 2019 0:23:06 GMT -5
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. You know,,, I get all kinds of grief, name calling, time outs, and threats of banishment, for using Wooooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again,
When I don't agree with something that has been posted
Instead of calling someone, dense, stupid, moron, racist, and several others that I have been called when they don't agree with something I posted. Must be a liberal thing, throwing out personal insults like that, Cause, I don't think I have ever seen a post by jma23, Value Buy, Jkapp, Miss Tequila, Phil5185, or sesfw. ever call some stupid, dense, moron, racist, and several other personal insults. God hep us if I Woooo Hooooo!!
That's obviously not true, since the most insulting person on this board is a beyond-radical, far-right conservative. But even if it were, who would those posters say such things to? There are only three (to the best of my recollection) posters here who consistently say stupid things, and all three are regurgitating the Trump party line much or most of the time, un-American as it is.
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Post by dondub on Nov 6, 2019 0:27:35 GMT -5
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. You know,,, I get all kinds of grief, name calling, time outs, and threats of banishment, for using Wooooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again,
When I don't agree with something that has been posted
Instead of calling someone, dense, stupid, moron, racist, and several others that I have been called when they don't agree with something I posted. Must be a liberal thing, throwing out personal insults like that, Cause, I don't think I have ever seen a post by jma23, Value Buy, Jkapp, Miss Tequila, Phil5185, or sesfw. ever call some stupid, dense, moron, racist, and several other personal insults. God hep us if I Woooo Hooooo!!
Well OC first off you are trolling well over 50% of the time. Trolls don’t need to be treated with any kind of respect. Secondly, when you seem like you are serious you tend to bail in crunch time...not answering direct questions, avoiding debate, not acknowledging when you are wrong, not proving links to back Up your ‘stuff’. Not a good strategy. So whoooo hoooo all you want but that last post was a huge booooo hoooo.😢😰 I keep hoping you’ll do better and return to your old self but now that you have had TDS for 3 years you may be too far gone.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 6, 2019 8:04:42 GMT -5
They are protected from legal ramifications from their employers - like being fired or demoted for whistleblowing.
They are not protected from every loon with a gun. Remember the guy who showed up at the pizza parlor in DC with a gun to liberate all the small children being held captive in the basement as part of Clinton's child sex ring?
The world is full of nut jobs, of any political stripe, left or right. Anti abortion people who will murder doctors who do abortions. Green activist who will blow up excavation equipment to prevent earth moving activities. It's always a good idea to try to not become a target of the nut jobs. That's what this whistleblower is trying to do, and the law allows him that protection.
You would most certainly not be concerned if some one in Trumps side was in hiding,, you would out them in a second!! Nope.
I might question their credibility and want some validation the whistleblower was correct. In this case, we've had six witnesses testify what the whistleblower said was 100% right.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 6, 2019 8:23:05 GMT -5
They are protected from legal ramifications from their employers - like being fired or demoted for whistleblowing.
They are not protected from every loon with a gun. Remember the guy who showed up at the pizza parlor in DC with a gun to liberate all the small children being held captive in the basement as part of Clinton's child sex ring?
The world is full of nut jobs, of any political stripe, left or right. Anti abortion people who will murder doctors who do abortions. Green activist who will blow up excavation equipment to prevent earth moving activities. It's always a good idea to try to not become a target of the nut jobs. That's what this whistleblower is trying to do, and the law allows him that protection.
You would most certainly not be concerned if some one in Trumps side was in hiding,, you would out them in a second!! Nope because unlike Trump & Co and many of his supporters I have a set of ethics and understand how whistle blower laws work. . Whistle blowers get protecting to keep the system honest otherwise nobody would report, I don't care who you are if you see something you think is unethical report it.
It is not my job to determine the truth of the matter. It's Congress's job to investigate the claim and decide to pursue charges or not, which is exactly what they are doingI know it's fun to generate deep state conspiracy theories but the law is working exactly as it is supposed to.
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 6, 2019 15:40:11 GMT -5
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. You know,,, I get all kinds of grief, name calling, time outs, and threats of banishment, for using Wooooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again,
When I don't agree with something that has been posted
Instead of calling someone, dense, stupid, moron, racist, and several others that I have been called when they don't agree with something I posted. Must be a liberal thing, throwing out personal insults like that, Cause, I don't think I have ever seen a post by jma23, Value Buy, Jkapp, Miss Tequila, Phil5185, or sesfw. ever call some stupid, dense, moron, racist, and several other personal insults. God hep us if I Woooo Hooooo!!
The bolded is patently untrue, OC. You have never been given a time out or threatened with banishment for using Woooooo Hoooooo. While that little bit of rhetoric might have been in a post of yours that resulted in a time out, or threat of banishment, it wasn't the reason for either. You should know this perfectly well as your censures have been explained to you. You tend to bait posters you don't care for, then whine when they bite back. Stop baiting and there won't be problems. You've been told that, as well. Wooooo Hooooo, while silly, has nothing to do with it and is certainly not indicative of disagreement with a post. If you don't agree with a post, explain why. Everyone who doesn't see things your way is not the bad guy. As to the name-calling, if you see it, report it. If I see it, I remove the post. I can't, however, see everything. Nobody can. I can tell you I've removed posts that call names that were created by posters of either party - in about equal numbers.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 6, 2019 15:45:30 GMT -5
John Bolton appointed by the resident (Republican)
Russel Vought appointed to current position by the resident (Republican)
John Bolton, the UN hater, was appointed by W to be UN Embassador. this is like appointing Jeff Dahmer to supervise the boyscouts of America. there have been few appointments in my life that caused me to laugh outloud, but this was one.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 6, 2019 15:47:34 GMT -5
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. You know,,, I get all kinds of grief, name calling, time outs, and threats of banishment, for using Wooooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again,
When I don't agree with something that has been posted
Instead of calling someone, dense, stupid, moron, racist, and several others that I have been called when they don't agree with something I posted. Must be a liberal thing, throwing out personal insults like that, Cause, I don't think I have ever seen a post by jma23, Value Buy, Jkapp, Miss Tequila, Phil5185, or sesfw. ever call some stupid, dense, moron, racist, and several other personal insults. God hep us if I Woooo Hooooo!!
I don't do name calling, and I am as liberal a person as you are likely to find.
remember that Libertarian test you took? I was way in the lower left hand corner (liberal/libertarian).
so, yeah, you can't make that blanket statement about liberals, because I am included in that group.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 6, 2019 16:08:19 GMT -5
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid. Pretty sure there are laws against that! There are laws against throwing acid in a person's face if you think they're illegal, issuing death threats and burning down synagogues. That doesn't seem to stop people. You know damn well that if the whistle blower was outed, Trump's moronic minions would harm him and his family. Stop acting stupid.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 6, 2019 21:26:19 GMT -5
Pretty sure there are laws against that! There are laws against throwing acid in a person's face if you think they're illegal, issuing death threats and burning down synagogues. That doesn't seem to stop people. You know damn well that if the whistle blower was outed, Trump's moronic minions would harm him and his family. Stop acting stupid. Telling stories,, have consequences.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 6, 2019 21:28:50 GMT -5
There are laws against throwing acid in a person's face if you think they're illegal, issuing death threats and burning down synagogues. That doesn't seem to stop people. You know damn well that if the whistle blower was outed, Trump's moronic minions would harm him and his family. Stop acting stupid. Telling stories,, have consequences. Again, stop acting stupid. It was confirmed by multiple individuals.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 6, 2019 21:36:03 GMT -5
The bolded is patently untrue, OC. You have never been given a time out or threatened with banishment for using Woooooo Hoooooo. While that little bit of rhetoric might have been in a post of yours that resulted in a time out, or threat of banishment, it wasn't the reason for either. You should know this perfectly well as your censures have been explained to you. You tend to bait posters you don't care for, then whine when they bite back. Stop baiting and there won't be problems. You've been told that, as well. Wooooo Hooooo, while silly, has nothing to do with it and is certainly not indicative of disagreement with a post. If you don't agree with a post, explain why. Everyone who doesn't see things your way is not the bad guy. As to the name-calling, if you see it, report it. If I see it, I remove the post. I can't, however, see everything. Nobody can. I can tell you I've removed posts that call names that were created by posters of either party - in about equal numbers. what was the time out for? Trolling and baiting, no doubt.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 7, 2019 8:20:01 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, of all those lining up to tell their Ukraine stories,, how many were not appointed by a Democrat? Out of the seven so far confirming the quid pro quo, most are career military and/or diplomats, which means they worked for each successive president, either Dem or GOP. Most government bureaucrats are like that, when a president comes to office, he does not replace every single government employee with a new one that is 'pro' himself, the bulk of the government employees are lifetime bureaucrats with a ton of job experience and who are required to work in a non-partisan way, meaning they aren't GOP or Dem or pro/con the president, they are 100% working for America. Period. The idea that someone who has worked a job for 30 years, done a good job, gotten promoted, has the support of his colleagues, and yet is somehow a Dem or a Deep State Plant is ludicrous, because 30 years ago, when these people were starting their careers, how would they know to plot a career path that would bring them to the Ukraine in 2018/2019 so they would bring about the downfall of a president elected in 2016?
There is one person so far who is a big Trump pal - Sonderland - who went on record this week saying he knew what was happening was a quid pro quo. This guy was a hotel magnate, friend of Trump, and made a 1 million dollar donation to Trump's campaign in 2016, which granted him the EU ambassador job. Hard to spin that guy as a hidden Dem or Deep State plant, right?
Next week, Bolton might testify. Bolton, a hard right GOP war hawk, was selected by Trump to work for him. He has been quoted by the others who have already testified that he thought Giuliani was a 'grenade' and he refused to participate in pushing the quid pro quo deal on the Ukrainians, calling it a 'drug deal.' If Bolton gets on the stand, in public, and confirms that he knew Trump was pushing for a quid pro quo in the Ukraine, is he enough of a solid GOPer, pro Trumper, for you to believe there might actually have been a quid pro quo deal going on, where Trump was using tax payer money to coerce our ally to provide damaging information to use against his most likely 2020 opponent?
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 7, 2019 10:08:13 GMT -5
OK if this is even true, what makes it worse than Biden blackmailing the Ukraine officials??
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 7, 2019 10:13:11 GMT -5
OK if this is even true, what makes it worse than Biden blackmailing the Ukraine officials?? Reason for doing so, national v. personal political interest.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 7, 2019 10:16:03 GMT -5
Pretty sure there are laws against that! . Well there should be.😎 The grifter family sneers at laws. 2635.702 Use of public office for private gain. An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity, including nonprofit organizations of which the employee is an officer or member, and persons with whom the employee has or seeks employment or business relations. www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/2635.702
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