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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 4, 2019 12:23:07 GMT -5
Snippets from article. ‘Seven whistleblowers’And a story that — if true — could be deadly for Jared Kushner Cockburn Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. The Magnificent Seven. Seven Samurai. The Seven Year Itch. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Hollywood loves stories and film titles with seven in them. So how about Seven Whistleblowers? It has a nice ring to it. Because a source tells Cockburn that House Democrats trying to impeach Donald Trump have no less than seven intelligence whistleblowers willing to give evidence, or who have already given evidence, about President Trump’s dealings with foreign governments. That’s three whistleblowers. What about the other four? Cockburn’s source says that at least one is nothing to do with Ukraine but instead was reporting a call between Trump and the Saudi ruler, Mohammed bin Salman. Specifically, the whistleblower is said to have ‘concerns’ about what was said on the call about the president’s son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner. Kushner himself is known to have a very close relationship with MBS. Cockburn has previously written that Kushner may have been what Cosmo would call an ‘oversharer’ when it came to MBS. Unfortunately, it’s claimed that what he was sharing was American secrets: information Kushner had requested from the CIA would (allegedly) be echoed back in US intercepts of calls between members of the Saudi royal family. One source said this was why Kushner lost his intelligence clearances for a while. According to Cockburn’s source about the seven whistleblowers, there’s more. It is that Kushner (allegedly) gave the green light to MBS to arrest the dissident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, who was later murdered and dismembered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. A second source tells Cockburn that this is true and adds a crucial twist to the story. This source claims that Turkish intelligence obtained an intercept of the call between Kushner and MBS. And President Erdogan used it to get Trump to roll over and pull American troops out of northern Syria before the Turks invaded. Cockburn hears that investigators for the House Intelligence Committee know this whole tale and the identities of some of the people telling it. Whether any of is true is another matter but Adam Schiff certainly seems to be smiling a lot these days. Complete article here: ‘Seven whistleblowers’
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2019 14:30:23 GMT -5
you know what? this sort of thing is starting to make me deeply suspicious of business in general.
there have been so many underhanded dealings going on that it makes me wonder if we are merely corrupt or utterly corrupt as a national government.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 4, 2019 14:58:04 GMT -5
Hmmm. I remember back with the whole MBS thing happened reading an article about how Jared's family business wasn't able to get a loan from anyone but the Saudis, at some point in time. They bought that mammoth property in Manhattan that's been an albatross for them, and the Saudis bought out a part of it, if I remember right. It's been a while and I can't remember where I read the article.
I also recall confusion on why Trump backed down so quickly from Erdogon - this would explain that. Any why Trump is focusing all his tweet time and energy on trying to derail the impeachment inquiry, even considering shutting down the government if the Dems don't stop. Since the Senate won't vote him out of office, you would think he'd be less worried about impeachment.
I'm not familiar with the Spectator, what is their reputation? Journalism or biased?
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 4, 2019 15:32:40 GMT -5
Hmmm. I remember back with the whole MBS thing happened reading an article about how Jared's family business wasn't able to get a loan from anyone but the Saudis, at some point in time. They bought that mammoth property in Manhattan that's been an albatross for them, and the Saudis bought out a part of it, if I remember right. It's been a while and I can't remember where I read the article.
I also recall confusion on why Trump backed down so quickly from Erdogon - this would explain that. Any why Trump is focusing all his tweet time and energy on trying to derail the impeachment inquiry, even considering shutting down the government if the Dems don't stop. Since the Senate won't vote him out of office, you would think he'd be less worried about impeachment.
I'm not familiar with the Spectator, what is their reputation? Journalism or biased? British magazine with a U.S. edition. Conservative in nature. The Spectator
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2019 15:49:17 GMT -5
you know what? this sort of thing is starting to make me deeply suspicious of business in general. there have been so many underhanded dealings going on that it makes me wonder if we are merely corrupt or utterly corrupt as a national government. Maybe I am just naïve, but I don't think so. I honestly do not believe any of this sort of shit went on when Obama was President. If it did, he was a metric shit-ton more clever about it. I hope I live long enough to see our citizens hear all of these stories, in a less flammable political climate and a more complete manner. Then they will be able to see Trump for who he is, and this can be a low-point in our history.
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Post by steff on Nov 4, 2019 15:59:28 GMT -5
So the resident in the white house may have been blackmailed into turning his backs on our allies, humiliating & demoralizing our military, and opened the door for genocide because the Kushner family are so indebted to the Saudi royal family & lil Jared gave the green light to arrest & execute a journalist.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2019 16:08:02 GMT -5
you know what? this sort of thing is starting to make me deeply suspicious of business in general. there have been so many underhanded dealings going on that it makes me wonder if we are merely corrupt or utterly corrupt as a national government. Maybe I am just naïve, but I don't think so. I honestly do not believe any of this sort of shit went on when Obama was President. I wasn't thinking of the presidency when I wrote that (necessarily).
I was thinking of the inordinate interest of the monied elite over our government.
standing pat?
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 5, 2019 8:26:14 GMT -5
Hmmm. I remember back with the whole MBS thing happened reading an article about how Jared's family business wasn't able to get a loan from anyone but the Saudis, at some point in time. They bought that mammoth property in Manhattan that's been an albatross for them, and the Saudis bought out a part of it, if I remember right. It's been a while and I can't remember where I read the article.
I also recall confusion on why Trump backed down so quickly from Erdogon - this would explain that. Any why Trump is focusing all his tweet time and energy on trying to derail the impeachment inquiry, even considering shutting down the government if the Dems don't stop. Since the Senate won't vote him out of office, you would think he'd be less worried about impeachment.
I'm not familiar with the Spectator, what is their reputation? Journalism or biased? British magazine with a U.S. edition. Conservative in nature. The SpectatorSo a more conservative journalistic source published this? Interesting.
I remember when Trump was running for office and there was some indication Trump might be getting campaign info from the Russians. There was one source that published that information and it was quickly poo-pooed by nearly everyone, because what presidential candidate would ever collude with our long standing enemy?
Then we got the Mueller report that outlined all the contacts between the Russians and Trump's staff, and that idea didn't seem so crazy.
Maybe this Spectator report will be a one-off and nothing more will come of it. But if there are actually seven whistleblowers, and any of them have proof of this? Wow.
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