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Post by dondub on Nov 5, 2019 18:11:53 GMT -5
. Having seen the movie I got that the Canadian ambassador and embassy were key in keeping those citizens out of the hands of the Iranians. Wasn’t that obvious?
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 5, 2019 18:15:24 GMT -5
I watch little and think even less of "Hollywood history".
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Post by dondub on Nov 5, 2019 18:19:44 GMT -5
Well if anyone seeing the movie doesn’t accept the Jimmy Carter 90/10 split they have simply succumbed to Hollywood’s dramatic license. My take was that the Canadians took a huge risk, were heroes, and were major players in the entire event. Then Mendez stepped in to get them out.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 5, 2019 18:20:10 GMT -5
. Having seen the movie I got that the Canadian ambassador and embassy were key in keeping those citizens out of the hands of the Iranians. Wasn’t that obvious? I saw the movie. The Canadians were just a footnote. Ben Affleck saved the day! His character only stayed in Iran for a day and a half, while the Canadians risked their lives. Many Canadians, including former Ambassador to Iran, Ken Taylor, who housed two of the six escapees and who was a central coordinator in the ex-filtration of the six Americans, took issue with the film, which portrayed the Canadians as a minor player in the daring escape. "Argo" would have us believe that it was almost solely an American undertaking led by CIA agent, Tony Mendez. "Tony Mendez, as courageous and ingenious as is his character, was only there for a day and a half," said Taylor. "After three months of intensive preparation for the operation…I think my role was somewhat more than just opening and closing the front door of the embassy." It was largely the Canadian Embassy who orchestrated the escape. www.ctvnews.ca/w5/argo-iran-hostage-crisis-film-fiddles-with-the-facts-1.1167994
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Post by dondub on Nov 5, 2019 18:28:02 GMT -5
. Having seen the movie I got that the Canadian ambassador and embassy were key in keeping those citizens out of the hands of the Iranians. Wasn’t that obvious? I saw the movie. The Canadians were just a footnote. Ben Affleck saved the day! His character only stayed in Iran for a day and a half, while the Canadians risked their lives. Many Canadians, including former Ambassador to Iran, Ken Taylor, who housed two of the six escapees and who was a central coordinator in the ex-filtration of the six Americans, took issue with the film, which portrayed the Canadians as a minor player in the daring escape. "Argo" would have us believe that it was almost solely an American undertaking led by CIA agent, Tony Mendez. "Tony Mendez, as courageous and ingenious as is his character, was only there for a day and a half," said Taylor. "After three months of intensive preparation for the operation…I think my role was somewhat more than just opening and closing the front door of the embassy." It was largely the Canadian Embassy who orchestrated the escape. www.ctvnews.ca/w5/argo-iran-hostage-crisis-film-fiddles-with-the-facts-1.1167994 I considered the Canadians the key to the entire rescue and hardly just a footnote. Perhaps a Canadian should have done the film.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 21:50:05 GMT -5
And not a single comment about the suvivers of the Iranian hostage lawsuit, which was the point of my post,
Not Obama's stupid move of giving money to a terrorist Country.
Personally I had no problem understanding the point of your post. That is why I commented that the article was a good one to read so people could see for themselves the point of the story. Geeees, Bills, you can be quite reasonable!
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 21:54:17 GMT -5
And not a single comment about the suvivers of the Iranian hostage lawsuit, which was the point of my post,
Not Obama's stupid move of giving money to a terrorist Country.
Personally I had no problem understanding the point of your post. That is why I commented that the article was a good one to read so people could see for themselves the point of the story. I see where several others were not as observant!
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 21:58:29 GMT -5
And not a single comment about the suvivers of the Iranian hostage lawsuit, which was the point of my post,
Not Obama's stupid move of giving money to a terrorist Country.
Thread title: Obama Can Give Billions Of Cash To Iran, Doesn't Pay Others.I thought you searched every line in my post and link's. then you would have known that this referred to the hostages. And No Obama didn't pay them, It happened on his watch, for sure!
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 22:04:48 GMT -5
Where is my title wrong, Obama did give $billions to Iran,, And did not pay the judgement for the Hostages,,
Kinda funny,, the courts said pay the money, He did even if it was wrong,, yet when the courts said pay the hostages ( U.S. citizens)
He didn't!,,, How do you like that the Great Messiah of the people ,,,, didn't pay the court judgement!!!
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 5, 2019 22:08:24 GMT -5
Personally I had no problem understanding the point of your post. That is why I commented that the article was a good one to read so people could see for themselves the point of the story. Geeees, Bills, you can be quite reasonable! Yes I can be. You might have chosen to be in regards to starting this thread.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2019 22:18:25 GMT -5
Thread title: Obama Can Give Billions Of Cash To Iran, Doesn't Pay Others.I thought you searched every line in my post and link's. then you would have known that this referred to the hostages. And No Obama didn't pay them, It happened on his watch, for sure!
Maybe you should have done a better job creating your thread title to match the contents of your link. If I remember correctly, I searched your link for Obama's name and no mention of him was found. Must be that male elephant estrus of yours muddling your brain.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 5, 2019 22:28:28 GMT -5
Where is my title wrong, Obama did give $billions to Iran,, And did not pay the judgement for the Hostages,,
Kinda funny,, the courts said pay the money, He did even if it was wrong,, yet when the courts said pay the hostages ( U.S. citizens)
He didn't!,,, How do you like that the Great Messiah of the people ,,,, didn't pay the court judgement!!!
First off, there was no court judgement to pay the hostages anything. Legislation was passed in 2015 which gave former hostages the right to compensation and established a way that moneys would go into a fund from which payments would be made. Other people were also granted the opportunity to be compensated from that pool of money. What has happened is that the money going into the fund is not enough to fully compensate all those eligible for payment.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 22:30:04 GMT -5
How many $Billions went to Iran??
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2019 22:30:59 GMT -5
We have now gone full circle.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 5, 2019 22:32:05 GMT -5
How many $Billions went to Iran?? Not relevant. It was not money that could have gone into the fund.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 6, 2019 6:40:30 GMT -5
Thanks OC for providing some cheap entertainment to wake up too....you should really see if you can gain employment writing tweets for President Trump.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 6, 2019 10:22:22 GMT -5
We have now gone full circle. When you have one foot nailed to the ground, all you can do is circle around it and end up in the exact place you started.
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Post by mroped on Nov 6, 2019 20:59:07 GMT -5
BRING BACK ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!😂 There! I voiced my problem! I didn’t want OC to feel singled out for having a dumb issue so there you go: explain to me why can’t they bring back Arrested Development?
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 6, 2019 21:03:48 GMT -5
BRING BACK ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!😂 There! I voiced my problem! I didn’t want OC to feel singled out for having a dumb issue so there you go: explain to me why can’t they bring back Arrested Development? Because the last season sucked. They are out of ideas.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 7, 2019 10:33:59 GMT -5
He’s not the only one. Personally I would have thought the treasonous Iran-Contra twins, Reagan and Bush, would have ponied up the cash. They could have tapped the skim they had in Swiss banks. Obama was in a completely different century 30 years later. BCIC
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 7, 2019 11:41:26 GMT -5
He’s not the only one. Personally I would have thought the treasonous Iran-Contra twins, Reagan and Bush, would have ponied up the cash. They could have tapped the skim they had in Swiss banks. Obama was in a completely different century 30 years later. BCIC BCIC?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 12:54:47 GMT -5
And not a single comment about the suvivers of the Iranian hostage lawsuit, which was the point of my post,
Not Obama's stupid move of giving money to a terrorist Country.
Personally I had no problem understanding the point of your post. That is why I commented that the article was a good one to read so people could see for themselves the point of the story. I read the whole article. Informative.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 7, 2019 17:07:44 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on Nov 7, 2019 17:13:53 GMT -5
How many $Billions went to Iran?? So if you buy something from me, and I fail to deliver because its determined you are a risk to national security, I should be allowed to keep your money forever? I'll tell Moon where you can send my billions.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 7, 2019 17:34:32 GMT -5
Where is my title wrong, Obama did give $billions to Iran,, And did not pay the judgement for the Hostages,,
Kinda funny,, the courts said pay the money, He did even if it was wrong,, yet when the courts said pay the hostages ( U.S. citizens)
He didn't!,,, How do you like that the Great Messiah of the people ,,,, didn't pay the court judgement!!!
He did not. He returned the money that was rightfully theirs. How many times must this be explained to you? Perhaps it's your Global Transit (sic) Amnesia. You know, the amnesia you suffer from when you're riding the bus or subway.
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Post by Opti on Nov 7, 2019 17:53:49 GMT -5
Where is my title wrong, Obama did give $billions to Iran,, And did not pay the judgement for the Hostages,,
Kinda funny,, the courts said pay the money, He did even if it was wrong,, yet when the courts said pay the hostages ( U.S. citizens)
He didn't!,,, How do you like that the Great Messiah of the people ,,,, didn't pay the court judgement!!!
You do understand that it wasn't up to Obama whether the money was paid out or not, do you? Its a fund set up by Congress, I'm not sure why you have decided to believe a President would administer this fund unless you want to explain why Trump hasn't stepped up and fixed this to your satisfaction?
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Post by ednkris on Nov 7, 2019 22:20:55 GMT -5
Where is my title wrong, Obama did give $billions to Iran,, And did not pay the judgement for the Hostages,,
Kinda funny,, the courts said pay the money, He did even if it was wrong,, yet when the courts said pay the hostages ( U.S. citizens)
He didn't!,,, How do you like that the Great Messiah of the people ,,,, didn't pay the court judgement!!!
You do understand that it wasn't up to Obama whether the money was paid out or not, do you? Its a fund set up by Congress, I'm not sure why you have decided to believe a President would administer this fund unless you want to explain why Trump hasn't stepped up and fixed this to your satisfaction? It was up to obama...he represented the usa in the Iran nuke deal and ok'd releasing the funds as part of the deal. He could have said no but like the red line he is spineless
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Post by dondub on Nov 7, 2019 22:55:34 GMT -5
You do understand that it wasn't up to Obama whether the money was paid out or not, do you? Its a fund set up by Congress, I'm not sure why you have decided to believe a President would administer this fund unless you want to explain why Trump hasn't stepped up and fixed this to your satisfaction? It was up to obama...he represented the usa in the Iran nuke deal and ok'd releasing the funds as part of the deal. He could have said no but like the red line he is spineless Your lack of knowledge about this is why you just confused 2 different funds. Your version of the UN agreed that these funds could be released back to Iran as part of the 6 nation treaty. The ‘other’ funds, subject of this thread, were not paid to the hostages over 23 years of Repo-Con presidency.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 7, 2019 23:15:12 GMT -5
It was up to obama...he represented the usa in the Iran nuke deal and ok'd releasing the funds as part of the deal. He could have said no but like the red line he is spineless Your lack of knowledge about this is why you just confused 2 different funds. Your version of the UN agreed that these funds could be released back to Iran as part of the 6 nation treaty. The ‘other’ funds, subject of this thread, were not paid to the hostages over 23 years of Repo-Con presidency. Trump loves the uneducated and uninformed. They're so malleable.
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Post by tallguy on Nov 8, 2019 1:17:24 GMT -5
Your lack of knowledge about this is why you just confused 2 different funds. Your version of the UN agreed that these funds could be released back to Iran as part of the 6 nation treaty. The ‘other’ funds, subject of this thread, were not paid to the hostages over 23 years of Repo-Con presidency. Trump loves the uneducated and uninformed. They're so malleable. But we don't. They just post stupid things and contribute nothing of value.
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