Georgia...purging more voter rolls.

[kadee79]

About 330,000 voter registrations in Georgia could soon be canceled because registrants haven’t participated in elections for several years.



The purge comes after Georgia canceled 534,119 registrations in July 2017, the largest single removal of voters in U.S. history.



Under a new state law, election officials will notify voters before canceling their registrations, a step that didn’t exist two years ago.



The voter list cleanup, announced Monday by the secretary of state’s office, reinforces Georgia’s role as a voting rights and political battleground ahead of next year’s elections for president and two U.S. Senate seats. Last year, voting rights helped define the race for governor between Democrat Stacey Abrams and Republican Brian Kemp, who won by 1.4 percentage points.

www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/purge-about-300-000-voter-registrations-planned-georgia/qfxvTqS7KenXjvKN208yII/

You Ga. folks...spread the word any way you can.  If someone hasn't voted lately, they better check to make sure they are still registered.
I voted in all but one local election...only one person running, not really a reason for voting, but for some reason they had to hold the vote.

[thyme4change]

The Republicans were quite clever by doing all the could to get state elections skew red. What a great way to implement all their nasty little agenda items.

- Don't expand Medicare so Obamacare looks like a failure
- Pass abortion laws and other religious laws that challenge the constitution
- Gerrymander to gain seats in the house
- Purge democratic voters to lock down Senate and Peesidential races

Not to mention keeping the Republican rhetoric front and center. Ya gotta give em props for the vision and execution.

[kadee79]

Oct 28, 2019 20:20:35 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

The Republicans were quite clever by doing all the could to get state elections skew red. What a great way to implement all their nasty little agenda items.

- Don't expand Medicare so Obamacare looks like a failure
- Pass abortion laws and other religious laws that challenge the constitution
- Gerrymander to gain seats in the house
- Purge democratic voters to lock down Senate and Peesidential races

Not to mention keeping the Republican rhetoric front and center. Ya gotta give em props for the vision and execution.

This is what the Koch bros. have been working on for years.  They just didn't know that they were going to end up with DT in the WH & nearly crapped their pants when that happened.  They have been pretty quiet lately...wonder what they are up to now?

[tallguy]

Well, one died a couple months ago, so he has an excuse for not being particularly active....

[kadee79]

Oct 28, 2019 22:02:54 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Well, one died a couple months ago, so he has an excuse for not being particularly active....

Yes, but that "group" that they have...the name escapes me....has been really quiet.

[alabamagal]

If you don’t like the process, ehat would you suggest the process be to remove inactive voters? How hard is it to either vote every 5 years or return a pre-paid postcard saying you are still living at the address of record?

I may be one of those being removed since I have not lived in GA in 5 years. When I registered in AL, I had to list what county and address I had my previous voter reg and they were supposed to contact and have me removed. May or may not have happened. I just registered in KY when I got driver license, super easy, but probably still registered in AL, didn’t ask about previous registration, but they took my old DL.

[Value Buy]

Oct 29, 2019 6:02:32 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

If you don’t like the process, ehat would you suggest the process be to remove inactive voters? How hard is it to either vote every 5 years or return a pre-paid postcard saying you are still living at the address of record?

I may be one of those being removed since I have not lived in GA in 5 years. When I registered in AL, I had to list what county and address I had my previous voter reg and they were supposed to contact and have me removed. May or may not have happened. I just registered in KY when I got driver license, super easy, but probably still registered in AL, didn’t ask about previous registration, but they took my old DL.

Indiana has a regularly scheduled time frame where they contact voters by postcard asking if they are still in the same voting district and are a voter, etc. All they do is return the postcard. This is not rocket science, and unfortunately many citizens move out of a city or county to an adjoining voting district, and then register in their new area without letting the other district  know this. I believe Gary Indiana at one time had more voters registered than actual 18 years or older residents living in the city. Many elderly died, or others moved to the suburbs......

[steff]

Oct 29, 2019 6:02:32 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

If you don’t like the process, ehat would you suggest the process be to remove inactive voters? How hard is it to either vote every 5 years or return a pre-paid postcard saying you are still living at the address of record?

I may be one of those being removed since I have not lived in GA in 5 years. When I registered in AL, I had to list what county and address I had my previous voter reg and they were supposed to contact and have me removed. May or may not have happened. I just registered in KY when I got driver license, super easy, but probably still registered in AL, didn’t ask about previous registration, but they took my old DL.

Certain Republicans would claim that you are committing voter fraud by simply being registered in more than one state, even if you went thru the correct process to remove yourself from the voter rolls in the states you no longer reside in.  Heck, they believe dead people vote simply because the deceased name is still on a voter roll. 

[djAdvocate]

Oct 29, 2019 10:19:25 GMT -5 steff said:

Oct 29, 2019 6:02:32 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

If you don’t like the process, ehat would you suggest the process be to remove inactive voters? How hard is it to either vote every 5 years or return a pre-paid postcard saying you are still living at the address of record?

I may be one of those being removed since I have not lived in GA in 5 years. When I registered in AL, I had to list what county and address I had my previous voter reg and they were supposed to contact and have me removed. May or may not have happened. I just registered in KY when I got driver license, super easy, but probably still registered in AL, didn’t ask about previous registration, but they took my old DL.

Certain Republicans would claim that you are committing voter fraud by simply being registered in more than one state, even if you went thru the correct process to remove yourself from the voter rolls in the states you no longer reside in.  Heck, they believe dead people vote simply because the deceased name is still on a voter roll. 

curiously, they don't seem to understand that the worst voter fraud is from absentee ballots.

probably because more Republicans use them than Democrats.

how clever of them.

[steff]

Oct 29, 2019 10:36:01 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 29, 2019 10:19:25 GMT -5 steff said:

Certain Republicans would claim that you are committing voter fraud by simply being registered in more than one state, even if you went thru the correct process to remove yourself from the voter rolls in the states you no longer reside in.  Heck, they believe dead people vote simply because the deceased name is still on a voter roll. 

curiously, they don't seem to understand that the worst voter fraud is from absentee ballots.

probably because more Republicans use them than Democrats.

how clever of them.

One only need to look to North Carolina & how they had voter fraud by a GOP candidate using absentee ballots.   But that would require reading facts that they don't want to hear.  It's easier to fear monger against Democrats than admit the fraud was from their side. 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

They made a big to do about voter fraud in Iowa.   Out of all the in person votes in the state there were only 5 cases and out of that ONE ended up being actual in person fraud.  She was so terrified of illegals voting she voted for Trump in her county then drove 2 hours to the next one to vote again to balance the scales.  I laughed my ass off at the irony.

Meanwhile all the rest of it has been like you said. .. absentee ballots but nobody want to talk about those.  It's still bus loads of brown people being driven county to county.

[happyhoix]

Oct 29, 2019 6:02:32 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

If you don’t like the process, ehat would you suggest the process be to remove inactive voters? How hard is it to either vote every 5 years or return a pre-paid postcard saying you are still living at the address of record?

I may be one of those being removed since I have not lived in GA in 5 years. When I registered in AL, I had to list what county and address I had my previous voter reg and they were supposed to contact and have me removed. May or may not have happened. I just registered in KY when I got driver license, super easy, but probably still registered in AL, didn’t ask about previous registration, but they took my old DL.

Why does there need to be a process to remove them?

Is there some size limit on the number of registered voters you're allowed to have?

I assume there is some system to cross check the voter registrations in a state to make sure the same person isn't registered in two places. Use the same computer program to remove voters who have died. Anyone who moved away without notifying them - they just won't show up to vote, will they?

Purging the voter rolls means people who do show up to vote might be turned away on voting day. I think disenfranchising someone is worse than having a lot of extra people on the voting rolls.

The GOP is already working on ways to suppress the youth vote, too, since they tend to not vote GOP.

[dondub]

There needs to be a process to remove them so the un-American and anti-Democratic forces on the right can win bigly.

 And yes, there is a system actually called crosscheck: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Voter_Registration_Crosscheck_Program  The intent is more evil than you might have hoped for in your post.

 The trial run on voter purging, which turned away as many as 95,000 minority voters in Florida, was referred to as Hi-Tech Jim Crow by Greg Palast, the investigative reporter that uncovered the nefarious scheme purped by Jeb Bush and Kathryn Harris. No Repo-Con cares that this stole the election for W.

[Wisconsin Beth]

Oct 29, 2019 11:23:27 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Oct 29, 2019 6:02:32 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

If you don’t like the process, ehat would you suggest the process be to remove inactive voters? How hard is it to either vote every 5 years or return a pre-paid postcard saying you are still living at the address of record?

I may be one of those being removed since I have not lived in GA in 5 years. When I registered in AL, I had to list what county and address I had my previous voter reg and they were supposed to contact and have me removed. May or may not have happened. I just registered in KY when I got driver license, super easy, but probably still registered in AL, didn’t ask about previous registration, but they took my old DL.

Why does there need to be a process to remove them?

Is there some size limit on the number of registered voters you're allowed to have?

I assume there is some system to cross check the voter registrations in a state to make sure the same person isn't registered in two places. Use the same computer program to remove voters who have died. Anyone who moved away without notifying them - they just won't show up to vote, will they?

Purging the voter rolls means people who do show up to vote might be turned away on voting day. I think disenfranchising someone is worse than having a lot of extra people on the voting rolls.

The GOP is already working on ways to suppress the youth vote, too, since they tend to not vote GOP.

The databases holding the voter information may get too big.  I am not a DB person but the size of DBs I've worked on is sometimes problematic for backups and searching.  Esp. if they were poorly designed in the first place. 

[Deleted]

Oct 28, 2019 20:20:35 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

The Republicans were quite clever by doing all the could to get state elections skew red. What a great way to implement all their nasty little agenda items.

- Don't expand Medicare so Obamacare looks like a failure
- Pass abortion laws and other religious laws that challenge the constitution
- Gerrymander to gain seats in the house
- Purge democratic voters to lock down Senate and Peesidential races

Not to mention keeping the Republican rhetoric front and center. Ya gotta give em props for the vision and execution.

Successful politics in action.  

We need a strong federal voter ID law. 

To prevent illegal voting. 


It can be sold as a 'Voter Safety' issue.  

Nobody would want their vote negated by an illegal vote. 

Keep your vote safe !

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Good.

[dondub]

Unfortunately for all the smoke screeners on the right, the Trump-Kobach voter fraud hunt (scam) didn’t find anything. Perhaps if they had examined the other side they would have found the real voter fraud in America that is regularly perpetrated by the un-American and anti-democratic Repo-Cons.

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2019 12:04:12 GMT -5 @x said:

...

We need a strong federal voter ID law.

...

The is always in the details of such ideas. This one is particularly difficult since all elections are operated by local entities governed by the laws of individual states. My state does all elections by mail. How would that law deal with this situation? Details.

[NastyWoman]

Oct 29, 2019 6:02:32 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

If you don’t like the process, ehat would you suggest the process be to remove inactive voters? How hard is it to either vote every 5 years or return a pre-paid postcard saying you are still living at the address of record?

I may be one of those being removed since I have not lived in GA in 5 years. When I registered in AL, I had to list what county and address I had my previous voter reg and they were supposed to contact and have me removed. May or may not have happened. I just registered in KY when I got driver license, super easy, but probably still registered in AL, didn’t ask about previous registration, but they took my old DL.

Why should they be removed at all if they are still alive and elible to vote? I didn't know there was a law that mandated voting in the US. People may just not be all that interested in voting in specific years. Yet there may be something that incites them to vote in others: think never Hillary/Trump voters or whatever.

[thyme4change]

5 years doesn't seem like enough time. Many people only vote on presidential election years, and if they skip just one - maybe they were sick - they are kicked off the roles. I would like more participation in voting, but not doing it every year (or every other year or whatever) isn't a valid reason to revoke their constitutional right to vote.

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2019 15:48:10 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

5 years doesn't seem like enough time. Many people only vote on presidential election years, and if they skip just one - maybe they were sick - they are kicked off the roles. I would like more participation in voting, but not doing it every year (or every other year or whatever) isn't a valid reason to revoke their constitutional right to vote.

From the link in the OP:

Georgia Elections Director Chris Harvey said notifications will be sent in early November to the last known addresses of each of the inactive voters. If they don’t respond within 30 days, their names will be removed from the voter rolls in December.

Voters who return a postage-paid form will remain registered. They can also change their addresses or re-register online, mail a paper registration form or vote on Nov. 5.

Does not seem unreasonable to me.

[dondub]

It should. Taking the franchise away from eligible voters is NEVER ok and this is just another nefarious Repo-Con scam.

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2019 19:54:10 GMT -5 dondub said:

It should. Taking the franchise away from eligible voters is NEVER ok and this is just another nefarious Repo-Con scam.

There is a name on a list that might correspond to an actual eligible voter or it might no longer. Asking the person to do something once every five years as a minimum to confirm that they are an eligible voter should not be too much to ask. If you are too lazy or so unaware to be scammed by this scheme, I have no sympathy.

[dondub]

Oct 29, 2019 20:24:29 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 29, 2019 19:54:10 GMT -5 dondub said:

It should. Taking the franchise away from eligible voters is NEVER ok and this is just another nefarious Repo-Con scam.

There is a name on a list that might correspond to an actual eligible voter or it might no longer. Asking the person to do something once every five years as a minimum to confirm that they are an eligible voter should not be too much to ask. If you are too lazy or so unaware to be scammed by this scheme, I have no sympathy.

Sent to their last known address. This, of course, will really impact those folks that have moved a lot. Think renters versus good old white Georgia homeowners. It’s a plan just rife with the potential to screw people out of their right to vote.

Is M-R rubbing off on you?😎

[dondub]

Oct 29, 2019 20:24:29 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 29, 2019 19:54:10 GMT -5 dondub said:

It should. Taking the franchise away from eligible voters is NEVER ok and this is just another nefarious Repo-Con scam.

There is a name on a list that might correspond to an actual eligible voter or it might no longer. Asking the person to do something once every five years as a minimum to confirm that they are an eligible voter should not be too much to ask. If you are too lazy or so unaware to be scammed by this scheme, I have no sympathy.

Sent to their last known address. This, of course, will really impact those folks that have moved a lot. Think renters versus good old white Georgia homeowners. It’s a plan just rife with the potential to screw people out of their right to vote.

Is M-R rubbing off on you?😎

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2019 20:45:13 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oct 29, 2019 20:24:29 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

There is a name on a list that might correspond to an actual eligible voter or it might no longer. Asking the person to do something once every five years as a minimum to confirm that they are an eligible voter should not be too much to ask. If you are too lazy or so unaware to be scammed by this scheme, I have no sympathy.

Sent to their last known address. This, of course, will really impact those folks that have moved a lot. Think renters versus good old white Georgia homeowners. It’s a plan just rife with the potential to screw people out of their right to vote.

Is M-R rubbing off on you?😎

If they have moved, they need to update their registration. People need to make sure they are properly registered so they aren't screwed out of voting.

[kadee79]

What some of you are not taking into consideration is the logistics down here...especially in the more rural areas like where I live.  Many people of color down in this area have no transportation of their own & must depend on friends or relatives & times those people are available to get to a place to register to vote or to check on their registration.
On election days, many of the black churches run their buses to get people to the polls...but that is generally only those in town or very close to town.  You get out here in the boonies and many may not be able to make it if no one is available to transport them.
This is the same problem I've tried to explain to those that  say everyone has an ID and/or an ID is easy to get...not so in this area...a 30 min. drive one way to the nearest DMV and then you may end up waiting nearly all day since they start lining up well before the DMVs open.  They closed the one we used to have in our town...took it to 2 times a month and then they quit that too...a different way of voter suppression!    We are required to show either a state issued or federal ID to vote.

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2019 21:36:56 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

What some of you are not taking into consideration is the logistics down here...especially in the more rural areas like where I live.  Many people of color down in this area have no transportation of their own & must depend on friends or relatives & times those people are available to get to a place to register to vote or to check on their registration.
On election days, many of the black churches run their buses to get people to the polls...but that is generally only those in town or very close to town.  You get out here in the boonies and many may not be able to make it if no one is available to transport them.
This is the same problem I've tried to explain to those that  say everyone has an ID and/or an ID is easy to get...not so in this area...a 30 min. drive one way to the nearest DMV and then you may end up waiting nearly all day since they start lining up well before the DMVs open.  They closed the one we used to have in our town...took it to 2 times a month and then they quit that too...a different way of voter suppression!    We are required to show either a state issued or federal ID to vote.

How often do these people move?

[kadee79]

Oct 29, 2019 23:11:17 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 29, 2019 21:36:56 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

What some of you are not taking into consideration is the logistics down here...especially in the more rural areas like where I live.  Many people of color down in this area have no transportation of their own & must depend on friends or relatives & times those people are available to get to a place to register to vote or to check on their registration.
On election days, many of the black churches run their buses to get people to the polls...but that is generally only those in town or very close to town.  You get out here in the boonies and many may not be able to make it if no one is available to transport them.
This is the same problem I've tried to explain to those that  say everyone has an ID and/or an ID is easy to get...not so in this area...a 30 min. drive one way to the nearest DMV and then you may end up waiting nearly all day since they start lining up well before the DMVs open.  They closed the one we used to have in our town...took it to 2 times a month and then they quit that too...a different way of voter suppression!    We are required to show either a state issued or federal ID to vote.

How often do these people move?

Some not often, some maybe a couple times a year.  And there are some that are moving 3-4 times a year...it all depends on each individual & their particular circumstances.
Stacey Abrams is working on getting more & more registered...I just wish she could come down this way more often.

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2019 23:45:58 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Oct 29, 2019 23:11:17 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

How often do these people move?

Some not often, some maybe a couple times a year.  And there are some that are moving 3-4 times a year...it all depends on each individual & their particular circumstances.
Stacey Abrams is working on getting more & more registered...I just wish she could come down this way more often.

More getting registered now is a good thing. Bet they will be voters over the years so they won't have to worry about not voting for five years and being purged.