Lev Parnas' Instagram account

[swamp]

Shows a pretty cozy relationship with the Trump family and Guiliani. 


www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/10/21/wsj-lev-parnas-trump-private-instagram-page-lead-vpx.cnn


I agree, one picture doesn't say much, but this is pretty damning. 

[Bob Ross]

Pfft...you can do anything with Photoshop nowadays.

Here's John Cena as a cat.

[thyme4change]

Oct 23, 2019 15:52:58 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

Pfft...you can do anything with Photoshop nowadays.

Here's John Cena as a cat.

🤣🤣

[happyhoix]

OMG.

[kadee79]

But....how can one of them claim possible executive privilege? 

One of the two indicted associates of President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, on Wednesday tied the case to the president himself, saying that some of the evidence gathered in the campaign-finance investigation could be subject to executive privilege.



The unusual argument was raised by a defense lawyer in federal court in Manhattan as the two associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, pleaded not guilty to federal charges that they had made illegal campaign contributions to political candidates in the United States in exchange for potential influence.



Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman have become unexpected figures in the events at the heart of the House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry, having played a role in helping Mr. Giuliani’s efforts on behalf of President Trump to dig up information in Ukraine that could damage former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., a prospective Democratic challenger.



Mr. Giuliani has denied wrongdoing but has acknowledged that he and the two men worked with officials in Ukraine to collect damaging information about the American ambassador to Ukraine and other targets of Mr. Trump and his allies, including Mr. Biden and his younger son, Hunter.



Edward B. MacMahon Jr., a lawyer for Mr. Parnas, told the judge in the case that the potential for the White House to invoke executive privilege stemmed from the fact that Mr. Parnas had used Mr. Giuliani as his own lawyer at the same time Mr. Giuliani was working as Mr. Trump’s lawyer.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/indicted-giuliani-associate-ties-case-to-trump/ar-AAJezJw?li=BBnb7Kz 

[happyhoix]

Oct 23, 2019 17:37:55 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

But....how can one of them claim possible executive privilege? 

One of the two indicted associates of President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, on Wednesday tied the case to the president himself, saying that some of the evidence gathered in the campaign-finance investigation could be subject to executive privilege.



The unusual argument was raised by a defense lawyer in federal court in Manhattan as the two associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, pleaded not guilty to federal charges that they had made illegal campaign contributions to political candidates in the United States in exchange for potential influence.



Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman have become unexpected figures in the events at the heart of the House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry, having played a role in helping Mr. Giuliani’s efforts on behalf of President Trump to dig up information in Ukraine that could damage former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., a prospective Democratic challenger.



Mr. Giuliani has denied wrongdoing but has acknowledged that he and the two men worked with officials in Ukraine to collect damaging information about the American ambassador to Ukraine and other targets of Mr. Trump and his allies, including Mr. Biden and his younger son, Hunter.



Edward B. MacMahon Jr., a lawyer for Mr. Parnas, told the judge in the case that the potential for the White House to invoke executive privilege stemmed from the fact that Mr. Parnas had used Mr. Giuliani as his own lawyer at the same time Mr. Giuliani was working as Mr. Trump’s lawyer.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/indicted-giuliani-associate-ties-case-to-trump/ar-AAJezJw?li=BBnb7Kz 

So now, executive privilege applies not just to people outside the administration (Like Giuliani) who do work for Trump, it even applies to people who work with those people who work with Trump?

Is this like the seven degrees of separation game? With not much effort, Trump could invoke 'executive privilege' for most of the east coast, if he wanted to.

Good thing his definition of executive privilege is fucked up.  Now we just need a few law courts to inform him about that.

[Wisconsin Beth]

Oct 23, 2019 15:52:58 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

Pfft...you can do anything with Photoshop nowadays.

Here's John Cena as a cat.

I must remember to show this to my 10 year old.  He's a huge John Cena fan. 

[thyme4change]

Oct 24, 2019 7:04:08 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Oct 23, 2019 17:37:55 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

But....how can one of them claim possible executive privilege? 


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/indicted-giuliani-associate-ties-case-to-trump/ar-AAJezJw?li=BBnb7Kz 

So now, executive privilege applies not just to people outside the administration (Like Giuliani) who do work for Trump, it even applies to people who work with those people who work with Trump?

Is this like the seven degrees of separation game? With not much effort, Trump could invoke 'executive privilege' for most of the east coast, if he wanted to.

Good thing his definition of executive privilege is fucked up.  Now we just need a few law courts to inform him about that.

He kinda already has invoked exec privilege for just about anyone that has ever been in contact with him. He has forbidden testimony. The only people who appear are the ones who want to. I don't believe they have his "permission".

[OldCoyote]

Hmmmm, didn't Obama use this to stop the investigation Fast and Furious, protecting a bunch of ATF people and members of his Cabinet??

At least 2 Americans, 350 Mexicans,, a one European have died, because of their action, 

By Obama stopping this investigation,, Why is he not Guilty of obstruction, and because it was headed his way,, collusion and cover up??

[kadee79]

Oct 24, 2019 10:20:08 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Hmmmm, didn't Obama use this to stop the investigation Fast and Furious, protecting a bunch of ATF people and members of his Cabinet??

At least 2 Americans, 350 Mexicans,, a one European have died, because of their action, 

By Obama stopping this investigation,, Why is he not Guilty of obstruction, and because it was headed his way,, collusion and cover up??

^OT....this isn't about Obama.  It's about some Russian born guy who broke the law...please try to keep up!

[OldCoyote]

Did this not drift to Executive Privilege??

[djAdvocate]

Oct 24, 2019 10:20:08 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Hmmmm, didn't Obama use this to stop the investigation Fast and Furious, protecting a bunch of ATF people and members of his Cabinet??

At least 2 Americans, 350 Mexicans,, a one European have died, because of their action, 

By Obama stopping this investigation,, Why is he not Guilty of obstruction, and because it was headed his way,, collusion and cover up??

there is a long interesting article on this:

www.rcfp.org/journals/fast-furious-and-executive-pr/

if Obama were subject to a congressional investigation, it is doubtful that executive privilege would have held up.

this is how the article was summarized:

“On numerous occasions, a president has claimed executive privilege or threatened to do so and then has backed down after White House and congressional staffs worked out accommodations,” Rozell said. “I would define these as instances of the system working successfully, even though the presidents may have failed to withhold all information through the use of executive privilege.”

this president is testing the limits of that idea by doubling down and refusing to accommodate.

[kadee79]

Oct 24, 2019 11:18:51 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Did this not drift to Executive Privilege??

It didn't "drift"....it's what one of those crook's lawyers is trying to use to cover said crook's tracks!  So still on subject, not about Obama or any other administration.

[kadee79]

I'm hoping Swamp will chime in here on how this lawyer is trying to push EP as a possible defense & how it could come to that thru Rudy.

[swamp]

He’s full of shit

[kadee79]

Thank you Swamp!  Good to know!

[thyme4change]

Oct 24, 2019 12:52:51 GMT -5 swamp said:

He’s full of shit

Lol. Great in depth analysis. I'd love to see your bar exam answers. 😂😂😂

[swamp]

Oct 28, 2019 13:56:28 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Oct 24, 2019 12:52:51 GMT -5 swamp said:

He’s full of shit

Lol. Great in depth analysis. I'd love to see your bar exam answers. 😂😂😂

when I need to, I can take a full page to say he's full of shit