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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 23, 2019 10:26:07 GMT -5
I see McConnell more like Judas; betraying the American people.
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Post by oped on Oct 23, 2019 10:51:43 GMT -5
GOP members not on the committee just stormed the testimony room to halt testimony.
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 23, 2019 10:51:44 GMT -5
I still say he is the anti-christ So do I, but my husband told me not to say that in front of my Mother. I dunno. I thought the antichrist was supposed to be slick, smooth, well-polished and highly manipulative. Trump on the other hand, is brutish, boorish, and works his "magic" with all of the tact of a hormonal, angsty middle-schooler. I'd expect more from the antichrist, TBH.
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Post by oped on Oct 23, 2019 10:56:54 GMT -5
And they stormed a secure area with their electronic devices... it’s going to have to be swept apparently?
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Post by kadee79 on Oct 23, 2019 12:02:41 GMT -5
And they stormed a secure area with their electronic devices... it’s going to have to be swept apparently? I haven't seen/heard anything about this....I'm only hearing about DT's news conference where he lifted all sanctions against Turkey. Said they would have to fight it out...that they have been fighting there for centuries (true)(but he didn't know that until someone told him). Now it's coming on CNN!
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 23, 2019 12:09:36 GMT -5
GOP members not on the committee just stormed the testimony room to halt testimony. Stupid move. But trump supporters will eat it right up.
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Post by oped on Oct 23, 2019 12:10:26 GMT -5
As read on Twitter... ‘Matt Gaetz storming a SCIF to shut down an investigation, Matt Whitaker stating abuse of power is not a crime, and Trump’s lawyer arguing he can’t even be investigated for shooting someone really is the perfect encapsulation of the GOP’s current attitude towards the rule of law.’
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 12:10:53 GMT -5
As in; Here we go...it hits the fan....Cohen testimony ? Mueller ?
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 23, 2019 12:13:32 GMT -5
I still say he is the anti-christ There you go making it all about religion.........
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 23, 2019 12:18:40 GMT -5
They are also saying that "hearsay" can't be used. I didn't know court rules were followed in an inquiry? They keep trying to quote court rules that do NOT apply in impeachment. They all need to go read how it is conducted. Yes, I think they are doing that intentionally- to create the impression that it is fundamentally unfair. The reason I say intentionally is because they- or at least the key players- know full well how it is conducted. They are trying to deceive the American people. There are other examples too. In an inquiry a lot of testimony is given "in secret", for instance. This is to protect everyone involved, including those being investigated, because it is only an inquiry at this point. It will all come out should they actually consider and vote on impeachment. Even at that point, it is not a trial in the House. The trial will be in the Senate. THEN Lindsey can explain how it is all a big witch hunt, and that it is perfectly OK for the President to break the law. Right now the House is doing an investigation. If you liken it to a criminal process, during the investigation police talk to anyone who might have any information, and then determine which info is true. Police can interrogate suspects and witnesses by lying to them, manipulating them and all kinds of bullying. A person of interest does not get a chance to face the witnesses or anyone giving a statement, nor do they get access to information the police have gathered. When the investigation is complete, I guess we go to a pre-trial mode, where all the official depositions, under oath, begin. And then it goes to trial. And then we can say it isn't a criminal trial, so some rules don't apply. But for right now, let's not confuse the investigation for a criminal trial.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 23, 2019 12:21:36 GMT -5
As in; Here we go...it hits the fan....Cohen testimony ? Mueller ? Ask yourself this question. If the testimony is so damning for Trump, why keep the proceedings in the Star Chamber sequestered from the American public, and come out and drop supposed Presidential wrong doing statements being told to them? Why secret testimony and the panel daily or even twice daily come out and tell America you have to see and hear what we see and hear in terstimony? If there was anything even hinting at Presidential mistakes Schiff would open the meetings up to hear this testimony. He has not and he will not. Label this stuff under "I have seen actual documents showing Trump colluded with the Russians" made by Shifty, err I mean Schiff. Never knew Congress had the ability to put proof of infractions in a box, seal it up and ship it off to Area 51 warehouses to never be seen again
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Post by kadee79 on Oct 23, 2019 12:26:48 GMT -5
GOP are making fools of themselves by storming the secure room!
What happened to the rule of law? This is an investigation,,,not a trial or anything else.
Do the police conduct their investigations in public?
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 23, 2019 12:33:10 GMT -5
As in; Here we go...it hits the fan....Cohen testimony ? Mueller ? Ask yourself this question. If the testimony is so damning for Trump, why keep the proceedings in the Star Chamber sequestered from the American public, and come out and drop supposed Presidential wrong doing statements being told to them? Why secret testimony and the panel daily or even twice daily come out and tell America you have to see and hear what we see and hear in terstimony? If there was anything even hinting at Presidential mistakes Schiff would open the meetings up to hear this testimony. He has not and he will not. Label this stuff under "I have seen actual documents showing Trump colluded with the Russians" made by Shifty, err I mean Schiff. Never knew Congress had the ability to put proof of infractions in a box, seal it up and ship it off to Area 51 warehouses to never be seen again It is common during an investigation to keep witnesses statements separate and secret. That way, one witness's statement does (intentionally or unintentionally) sway/change another's. It is well proven that human memory is a tricky thing. As soon as one witness says something, others sometimes change their story to agree. I hope that, in this case, people are coming in with notes and facts, but still, no one wants one person's memory tainted.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 23, 2019 12:35:57 GMT -5
I still say he is the anti-christ There you go making it all about religion.........
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 12:39:03 GMT -5
GOP are making fools of themselves by storming the secure room! What happened to the rule of law? This is an investigation,,,not a trial or anything else. Do the police conduct their investigations in public? They aren't the police.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 23, 2019 12:39:36 GMT -5
There you go making it all about religion......... What does that have to do with me? Am I in the picture?
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 23, 2019 12:40:41 GMT -5
As in; Here we go...it hits the fan....Cohen testimony ? Mueller ? Ask yourself this question. If the testimony is so damning for Trump, why keep the proceedings in the Star Chamber sequestered from the American public, and come out and drop supposed Presidential wrong doing statements being told to them? Why secret testimony and the panel daily or even twice daily come out and tell America you have to see and hear what we see and hear in terstimony? If there was anything even hinting at Presidential mistakes Schiff would open the meetings up to hear this testimony. He has not and he will not. Label this stuff under "I have seen actual documents showing Trump colluded with the Russians" made by Shifty, err I mean Schiff. Never knew Congress had the ability to put proof of infractions in a box, seal it up and ship it off to Area 51 warehouses to never be seen again So you must be of the opinion while during the Mueller investigation, Mueller himself should have updated the press and the American people what was discovered during the previous 24 hours, instead of keeping the investigation under wraps until it was all completed, yes?
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 23, 2019 12:41:29 GMT -5
What does that have to do with me? Am I in the picture? Republicans making politics all about religion.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 23, 2019 12:55:21 GMT -5
As read on Twitter... ‘Matt Gaetz storming a SCIF to shut down an investigation, Matt Whitaker stating abuse of power is not a crime, and Trump’s lawyer arguing he can’t even be investigated for shooting someone really is the perfect encapsulation of the GOP’s current attitude towards the rule of law.’
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 23, 2019 13:21:00 GMT -5
So let me get this straight. There are already the many Repubs that are members of the three committees conducting the inquiries who are rightfully sitting in on them, but these other Repubs who aren't on the committees claim they should be allowed to as well, since otherwise everything is being "hidden" from the GOP?
Madness!
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 23, 2019 13:42:20 GMT -5
GOP are making fools of themselves by storming the secure room! What happened to the rule of law? This is an investigation,,,not a trial or anything else. Do the police conduct their investigations in public? They aren't the police. Nor are they a criminal court proceeding. We can either respect that this is a unique process and stop pulling out random rules that don't apply, or we can liken this to the criminal process and name where we are in that process. The investigation stage. No one has been charged. No one has been arrested. No one is on trial.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 23, 2019 13:45:19 GMT -5
So let me get this straight. There are already the many Repubs that are members of the three committees conducting the inquiries who are rightfully sitting in on them, but these other Repubs who aren't on the committees claim they should be allowed to as well, since otherwise everything is being "hidden" from the GOP? Madness!
Also, these idiots should be grateful there is no "stand your ground" right in the House or there could have been a lot of emergency elections since they stormed the secure facility inside the Capitol!
Hey, if we want to arm teachers, pilots, etc. at their place of work why not members of Congress? Just sayin'
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Post by oped on Oct 23, 2019 13:53:22 GMT -5
Lindsay graham just said any impeachment based on this process is illegitimate and unconstitutional... couldn’t say how...
I swear they must have footage of him deep in some farm animal... no other explanation for his behavior I can fathom...
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Post by oped on Oct 23, 2019 13:54:20 GMT -5
One of the GOP stormers posted audio recording from the secure room...
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 23, 2019 13:59:41 GMT -5
One of the GOP stormers posted audio recording from the secure room... I have always said "at least they aren't beating each other bloody on the floor of the house" ala Preston Brooks. However, at this point, relations between the two parties are in such a shambles, maybe a beating or two is in order.
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Post by swamp on Oct 23, 2019 14:06:37 GMT -5
Lindsay graham just said any impeachment based on this process is illegitimate and unconstitutional... couldn’t say how... I swear they must have footage of him deep in some farm animal... no other explanation for his behavior I can fathom... He and Trump get it on? Threesome with Ivanka?
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Post by swamp on Oct 23, 2019 14:07:15 GMT -5
One of the GOP stormers posted audio recording from the secure room... I have always said "at least they aren't beating each other bloody on the floor of the house" ala Preston Brooks. However, at this point, relations between the two parties are in such a shambles, maybe a beating or two is in order. I hope Matt Goetz gets his ass kicked.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 23, 2019 14:08:06 GMT -5
One of the GOP stormers posted audio recording from the secure room... Wouldn't that be illegal, posting audio from a secure location?
Or have we moved completely away from reality and entered Trumpian legal waters were anything he wants to do is legal, and whatever he doesn't want to do is not?
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 23, 2019 14:10:27 GMT -5
As read on Twitter... ‘Matt Gaetz storming a SCIF to shut down an investigation, Matt Whitaker stating abuse of power is not a crime, and Trump’s lawyer arguing he can’t even be investigated for shooting someone really is the perfect encapsulation of the GOP’s current attitude towards the rule of law.’ Hey guys, let's all gather together in a big grab for publicity to try to distract attention from the shit storm that's engulfing our party!
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Post by dondub on Oct 23, 2019 14:11:14 GMT -5
GOP Stormtroopers preparing to get rid of the Demos "by any means necessary".
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