The Donald has no problem useing the word "lynching" in

[dezii]

suggesting that the House looking into whether it should bring up the possibility of impeaching the POTUS to the Senate for a vote ...thus upsetting millions of Americans, not all of color either, who many stillhave memories of lynchings of their race in the 20's and 30's...{even later , Till in Mississippi }….comparing the house investigation and deliberation of him to a lynching...Even members of the GOP coming out against his rhetoric...Personally I am sure many of his base are cheering on his words in support..{oh well..sigh}
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Some reactions..:

"You think this impeachment is a LYNCHING? What the hell is wrong with you?" Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., tweeted. "Do you know how many people who look like me have been lynched, since the inception of this country, by people who look like you. Delete this tweet."

From a member of the GOP:

""We can all disagree on the process, and argue merits," Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., tweeted. "But never should we use terms like 'lynching' here. The painful scourge in our history has no comparison to politics, and @realdonaldtrump should retract this immediately. May God help us to return to a better way."
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www.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-lynching-125828301.html

[Tennesseer]

Trump using the word 'lynching' is right up there with trump's use of "You people".  Nothing endears black voters more to a white politician tban one using those words.

  (Sarcasm emoji.)

[deadeyedick]

The word may have historical connotations but it is still a word which is used outside of that context.

lynch
/lɪn(t)ʃ/
verb
(of a group of people) kill (someone) for an alleged offence without a legal trial, especially by hanging.

He has already used ‘witch hunt’, lynching seems to be another apt description. I think this criticism of Trump’s word choice is weak.

[Bob Ross]

Every day there's something new!

[Tennesseer]

Oct 22, 2019 12:08:28 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

The word may have historical connotations but it is still a word which is used outside of that context.

lynch
/lɪn(t)ʃ/
verb
(of a group of people) kill (someone) for an alleged offence without a legal trial, especially by hanging.

He has already used ‘witch hunt’, lynching seems to be another apt description. I think this criticism of Trump’s word choice is weak.

The word does, not may, have historical connotations here in the United States.  No ifs, ands, or buts abut it.

trump's use of the word is a dog whistle to his racist supporters.  Again, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

He didn't mean that kind of lynching!  Come on people don't you know the most honest and straightforward president we've ever had doesn't actually mean what he says!?   

Gosh people get with the program.

[dondub]

Oct 22, 2019 12:08:28 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

The word may have historical connotations but it is still a word which is used outside of that context.

lynch
/lɪn(t)ʃ/
verb
(of a group of people) kill (someone) for an alleged offence without a legal trial, especially by hanging.

He has already used ‘witch hunt’, lynching seems to be another apt description. I think this criticism of Trump’s word choice is weak.

  I guess it could be construed as "another apt description" if he was being hung from a tree in a public square with a cheering crowd of onlookers.

  Instead it's just more whining narcissistic victimhood from the most despicable president ever.

 

  What's next...'Oh I feel like Nancy is dragging me through the Beltway with a pickup truck'.

[NastyWoman]

And the "great *ss-licker" Lindsey Graham to the defense for dt:

"...Graham told a gaggle of reporters on Monday morning. “This is a lynching in every sense. This is un-American. I’ve never seen a situation in my lifetime as a lawyer where somebody’s accused of a major misconduct who cannot confront the accusers, call witnesses on their behalf, and have the discussion in the light of day so the public can judge. ...”

www.thedailybeast.com/lindsey-graham-stands-up-for-trump-impeachment-inquiry-a-lynching-in-every-sense

So someone please explain to me why following an action set out in Constitution of United States is supposedly un-American?  Isn't this supposed to be a nation of laws in which "no person is above the law"?

[deadeyedick]

Oct 22, 2019 12:27:22 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 22, 2019 12:08:28 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

The word may have historical connotations but it is still a word which is used outside of that context. He has already used ‘witch hunt’, lynching seems to be another apt description. I think this criticism of Trump’s word choice is weak.

The word does, not may, have historical connotations here in the United States.  No ifs, ands, or buts abut it.

trump's use of the word is a dog whistle to his racist supporters.  Again, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I’d suggest that its absurd to be so certain that it’s dog whistle politics. Firstly, the term ‘lynching’ can be legitimately used outside of the racial historical context. Secondly what would be the motivation of using such ‘dog whistle’ politics? Do you think that he inserted that word in order to amuse white supremacists? I find it unlikely.

[NastyWoman]

Oct 22, 2019 13:08:06 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Lindsey Graham, the Senator who led the prosecution in the impeachment trial of President Clinton?  THAT Lindsey Graham?

Yep, that would be the one

[kadee79]

I stole this from some other place.....

"And now his spokesperson Hogan Gidley is out there saying that while tRump said lynching he didn't really mean lynching. That's just how he feels.



I saw the perfect descriptor for this administration the other day from a commenter at TPM. He was talking about the Mulvaney gaffes but it really applies to just about anything coming out of the WH right now and then the furious efforts that immediately follow to mitigate the damage.



Can’t deny this is fun - watching all these cats scratch furiously to cover up their own shit in such a small litter box. They keep exposing everyone else’s turds."

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

It plays right into the notion that white men are the real victims in this country which is popular with his core base.  Bullshit that Trump is using the term "lynching" in any way but face value.   The man wouldn't know what a thesaurus was if you hit him with it.

[dondub]

Oct 22, 2019 13:32:06 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

Oct 22, 2019 12:27:22 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

The word does, not may, have historical connotations here in the United States.  No ifs, ands, or buts abut it.

trump's use of the word is a dog whistle to his racist supporters.  Again, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I’d suggest that its absurd to be so certain that it’s dog whistle politics. Firstly, the term ‘lynching’ can be legitimately used outside of the racial historical context. Secondly what would be the motivation of using such ‘dog whistle’ politics? Do you think that he inserted that word in order to amuse white supremacists? I find it unlikely.

Sure, it Can be, just never really is as the real “ context” it’s now used in is the racial historical one.

Motivation? To get his white people constituents to feel like he is being treated unjustly. I doubt his intent was to amuse. More likely to rile up.

[djAdvocate]

Oct 22, 2019 12:56:57 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

And the "great *ss-licker" Lindsey Graham to the defense for dt:

"...Graham told a gaggle of reporters on Monday morning. “This is a lynching in every sense. This is un-American. I’ve never seen a situation in my lifetime as a lawyer where somebody’s accused of a major misconduct who cannot confront the accusers, call witnesses on their behalf, and have the discussion in the light of day so the public can judge. ...”

www.thedailybeast.com/lindsey-graham-stands-up-for-trump-impeachment-inquiry-a-lynching-in-every-sense

So someone please explain to me why following an action set out in Constitution of United States is supposedly un-American?  Isn't this supposed to be a nation of laws in which "no person is above the law"?

Lindsey Graham on the Bill Clinton "lynching":

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

[Tennesseer]

Oct 22, 2019 13:32:06 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

Oct 22, 2019 12:27:22 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

The word does, not may, have historical connotations here in the United States.  No ifs, ands, or buts abut it.

trump's use of the word is a dog whistle to his racist supporters.  Again, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I’d suggest that its absurd to be so certain that it’s dog whistle politics. Firstly, the term ‘lynching’ can be legitimately used outside of the racial historical context. Secondly what would be the motivation of using such ‘dog whistle’ politics? Do you think that he inserted that word in order to amuse white supremacists? I find it unlikely.

trump uses dog whistle words to incite his supporters because his impeachment appears to be inevitable. trump started using dog whistle words while running for office and has continued to use dog whistle words while president. There is a reason why white nationalists and others with similar biases support trump.

[NastyWoman]

Oct 22, 2019 15:20:24 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 22, 2019 12:56:57 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

And the "great *ss-licker" Lindsey Graham to the defense for dt:

"...Graham told a gaggle of reporters on Monday morning. “This is a lynching in every sense. This is un-American. I’ve never seen a situation in my lifetime as a lawyer where somebody’s accused of a major misconduct who cannot confront the accusers, call witnesses on their behalf, and have the discussion in the light of day so the public can judge. ...”

www.thedailybeast.com/lindsey-graham-stands-up-for-trump-impeachment-inquiry-a-lynching-in-every-sense

So someone please explain to me why following an action set out in Constitution of United States is supposedly un-American?  Isn't this supposed to be a nation of laws in which "no person is above the law"?

Lindsey Graham on the Bill Clinton "lynching":

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

But, but, but... that was about S.E.X. → totally different from violating the constitution, way worse that this. THIS attack is un-American.

Come to think about it and being 100% Dutch for a moment: with the hang-ups American society has about sex, that may actually be a true statement for many Americans

[deadeyedick]

Oct 22, 2019 14:37:30 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oct 22, 2019 13:32:06 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

I’d suggest that its absurd to be so certain that it’s dog whistle politics. Firstly, the term ‘lynching’ can be legitimately used outside of the racial historical context. Secondly what would be the motivation of using such ‘dog whistle’ politics? Do you think that he inserted that word in order to amuse white supremacists? I find it unlikely.

Sure, it Can be, just never really is as the real “ context” it’s now used in is the racial historical one.

Motivation? To get his white people constituents to feel like he is being treated unjustly. I doubt his intent was to amuse. More likely to rile up.

I’ve heard the term used many times in westerns and the targets weren’t black. A casual investigation indicates that the term was coined during the American Revolution, and the target were Loyalists.

Is it only Americans who can’t use the word, or white Americans, or Presidents or only Trump?

[deadeyedick]

Oct 22, 2019 15:25:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 22, 2019 13:32:06 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

I’d suggest that its absurd to be so certain that it’s dog whistle politics. Firstly, the term ‘lynching’ can be legitimately used outside of the racial historical context. Secondly what would be the motivation of using such ‘dog whistle’ politics? Do you think that he inserted that word in order to amuse white supremacists? I find it unlikely.

trump uses dog whistle words to incite his supporters because his impeachment appears to be inevitable. trump started using dog whistle words while running for office and has continued to use dog whistle words while president. There is a reason why white nationalists and others with similar biases support trump.

I think sometimes the interpretation of these ‘dog whistles’ is simply hysteria.

[deadeyedick]

Oct 22, 2019 14:37:30 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oct 22, 2019 13:32:06 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

I’d suggest that its absurd to be so certain that it’s dog whistle politics. Firstly, the term ‘lynching’ can be legitimately used outside of the racial historical context. Secondly what would be the motivation of using such ‘dog whistle’ politics? Do you think that he inserted that word in order to amuse white supremacists? I find it unlikely.

Sure, it Can be, just never really is as the real “ context” it’s now used in is the racial historical one.

Motivation? To get his white people constituents to feel like he is being treated unjustly. I doubt his intent was to amuse. More likely to rile up.

If the ‘real’ context its ‘now’ used in is the racial historic one, surely that would be reflected in online dictionaries. How many must I view before I find this ‘real’ context?

[dondub]

Oct 22, 2019 15:51:16 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

Oct 22, 2019 14:37:30 GMT -5 dondub said:

Sure, it Can be, just never really is as the real “ context” it’s now used in is the racial historical one.

Motivation? To get his white people constituents to feel like he is being treated unjustly. I doubt his intent was to amuse. More likely to rile up.

I’ve heard the term used many times in westerns and the targets weren’t black. A casual investigation indicates that the term was coined during American revolution, and the target were Loyalists.

Is it only Americans who can’t use the word, or white Americans, or Presidents or only Trump?

  Why back in the days of DeadEyeRick they were stringin' up desperadoes right and left in raw frontier justice. And if they used it on traitors during colonial times by golly, that's what you get.

 

  But lest anyone be mistaken and start spinning the reality of Trump's usage, I think 99.99% of Americans are quite sure of exactly what he meant and it didn't require dusting off a Zane Grey novel.

[dondub]

Oct 22, 2019 15:58:06 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

Oct 22, 2019 14:37:30 GMT -5 dondub said:

Sure, it Can be, just never really is as the real “ context” it’s now used in is the racial historical one.

Motivation? To get his white people constituents to feel like he is being treated unjustly. I doubt his intent was to amuse. More likely to rile up.

If the ‘real’ context its ‘now’ used in is the racial historic one, surely that would be reflected in online dictionaries. How many must I view before I find this ‘real’ context?

 Took me about 20 seconds to find it referred to as a way to control African Americans post emancipation. That good enough for you?

[dondub]

Oct 22, 2019 15:52:47 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

Oct 22, 2019 15:25:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

trump uses dog whistle words to incite his supporters because his impeachment appears to be inevitable. trump started using dog whistle words while running for office and has continued to use dog whistle words while president. There is a reason why white nationalists and others with similar biases support trump.

I think sometimes the interpretation of these ‘dog whistles’ is simply hysteria.

 Then why do millions of non hysterical people easily see them for what they are. Try again Dick.

[deadeyedick]

Oct 22, 2019 16:02:00 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oct 22, 2019 15:58:06 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

If the ‘real’ context its ‘now’ used in is the racial historic one, surely that would be reflected in online dictionaries. How many must I view before I find this ‘real’ context?

 Took me about 20 seconds to find it referred to as a way to control African Americans post emancipation. That good enough for you?

That’s quite slow if you’re entering ‘black’, ‘lynch’ and ‘definition’ as the keywords.

Why aren’t you mentioning the specific dictionary? The oxford and Cambridge ones don’t mention the racial historical context. Whilst we’re at it, is the expression ‘lynch mob’ also necessarily racist? Or just ‘lynching’?

I’m guessing that it’s only critics of Trump who see this as ‘dog whistle’ racism.

[deadeyedick]

Oct 22, 2019 16:02:54 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oct 22, 2019 15:52:47 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

I think sometimes the interpretation of these ‘dog whistles’ is simply hysteria.

 Then why do millions of non hysterical people easily see them for what they are. Try again Dick.

Because it’s mass hysteria. You think that an opinion is correct simply because millions believe it? 😂

[deadeyedick]

Oct 22, 2019 15:25:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 22, 2019 13:32:06 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

I’d suggest that its absurd to be so certain that it’s dog whistle politics. Firstly, the term ‘lynching’ can be legitimately used outside of the racial historical context. Secondly what would be the motivation of using such ‘dog whistle’ politics? Do you think that he inserted that word in order to amuse white supremacists? I find it unlikely.

trump uses dog whistle words to incite his supporters because his impeachment appears to be inevitable. trump started using dog whistle words while running for office and has continued to use dog whistle words while president. There is a reason why white nationalists and others with similar biases support trump.

His impeachment is not inevitable, thus your reasoning is fallacious.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 22, 2019 16:15:44 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

Oct 22, 2019 15:25:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

trump uses dog whistle words to incite his supporters because his impeachment appears to be inevitable. trump started using dog whistle words while running for office and has continued to use dog whistle words while president. There is a reason why white nationalists and others with similar biases support trump.

His impeachment is not inevitable, thus your reasoning is fallacious.

Time will tell, deadeyedick of Australia.

[dondub]

Impeachment appears inevitable. Conviction not. Thus his reasoning was just fine.

[dondub]

Oct 22, 2019 16:13:25 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

Oct 22, 2019 16:02:54 GMT -5 dondub said:

 Then why do millions of non hysterical people easily see them for what they are. Try again Dick.

Because it’s mass hysteria. You think that an opinion is correct simply because millions believe it? 😂

Not really. Do you think it's incorrect just because you don't believe it?

[dondub]

Oct 22, 2019 16:11:56 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

Oct 22, 2019 16:02:00 GMT -5 dondub said:

 Took me about 20 seconds to find it referred to as a way to control African Americans post emancipation. That good enough for you?

That’s quite slow if you’re entering ‘black’, ‘lynch’ and ‘definition’ as the keywords.

Why aren’t you mentioning the specific dictionary? The oxford and Cambridge ones don’t mention the racial historical context. Whilst we’re at it, is the expression ‘lynch mob’ also necessarily racist? Or just ‘lynching’?

I’m guessing that it’s only critics of Trump who see this as ‘dog whistle’ racism.

I was just tryiong to help as you stated you were incapable of finding it. I simply typed in lynching and within 20 seconds found it and read it. You can do the same. Do you have google?

[deadeyedick]

Oct 22, 2019 16:22:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 22, 2019 16:15:44 GMT -5 deadeyedick said:

His impeachment is not inevitable, thus your reasoning is fallacious.

Time will tell, deadeyedick of Australia.

Just like it did when he wasn’t supposed to be the Republican candidate, wasn’t going to debate Hillary after the p*ssy audio, wasn’t supposed to be President, wasn’t supposed to last a year.

Am I right to assume that you didn’t think he would get this far?