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Post by tbop77 on Oct 21, 2019 10:57:32 GMT -5
You should be worrying about whether the United States of America will make it that long. Since the Cabol including CNN and their leader has been partially exposed, I am hopeful we will be fine. It is the democratic voters who have to remove their blinders. I think the whole country should worry....both parties.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 21, 2019 12:04:46 GMT -5
You should be worrying about whether the United States of America will make it that long. Since the Cabol including CNN and their leader has been partially exposed, I am hopeful we will be fine. It is the democratic voters who have to remove their blinders. The what, now? What's a Cabol?
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 21, 2019 12:04:54 GMT -5
Five years and 93 days to go! I am not sure if all of you will make it that long. i am betting he will be impeached within 93 days. he will probably survive it.
the next thing he will have to survive is the worst approval rating since Carter. that will be far more challenging.
Even worse for trump: he will go down in history as one of only three presidents ever impeached. trump will have to live with the reputation as being no better than Bill Clinton or Andrew Johnson. trump just won't be able to stand the comparison to Bill Clinton. Hillary will laugh and laugh at trump.
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 21, 2019 12:32:05 GMT -5
I wonder what evidence would have to come to light to sway your average Trump base supporter? My guess is "no amount" and that is scary. Trump seems like an odd choice to pledge one's undying allegiance.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 21, 2019 13:24:58 GMT -5
"fight dirty" said the guy who invited several of the women who accused Bill Clinton of sexual harassment and abuse to his presidential debate with Hillary Clinton. Just one of among many, many other deplorable things he has said and done toward others. Trump urges GOP to defend him more strongly on impeachmentPresident Trump on Monday urged Republicans to offer him a tougher defense on impeachment amid a few signs of GOP discontent with his administration. At a Cabinet meeting, Trump praised Democratic unity while criticizing his own party for not sticking together. "The two things they have: They’re vicious and they stick together," he said of Democrats. "They don’t’ have (Sen.) Mitt Romney (R-Utah) in their midst. They don’t have people like that." Trump said Republicans have to "get tougher and fight" to counteract Democrats pursuing an impeachment inquiry. "And Republicans have to get tougher and fight," he continued. "We have some that are great fighters, but they have to get tougher and fight because the Democrats are trying to hurt the Republican party for the election, which is coming up, where we’re doing very well." Asked later to elaborate on his desire to see Republicans get tougher, Trump said he felt Democrats were "vicious." "I think the Democrats fight dirty. I think the Democrat are lousy politicians with lousy policy," he said. Complete article here: Trump urges GOP to defend him more strongly on impeachment
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 21, 2019 13:33:10 GMT -5
I wonder what evidence would have to come to light to sway your average Trump base supporter? My guess is "no amount" and that is scary. Trump seems like an odd choice to pledge one's undying allegiance. Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On HimPeter Wehner said there’s a reason why many of President Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters won’t turn on him. “It is almost like a hermetically sealed world,” Wehner said on CNN’s “Reliable Sources.” “Facts are like BBs, they’re just bouncing off of a brick wall. They just don’t penetrate.” “People decided early on for a variety of reasons to accommodate themselves to Donald Trump, some of them thinking that things would get better, that he would grow in office, that he would be surrounded by good people,” Wehner said. Instead, Trump has gotten worse. But because of their early accommodation of the president, these voters are essentially stuck with him. “Now it’s not just a defense of Trump. It’s a defense of their defense of Trump,” Wehner said. “To indict him is to indict themselves, and to indict their own judgment, and that’s hard for any human being.” The result: “They will defend him regardless of what happens, come hell or high water.” Article here: Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On Him
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 21, 2019 13:35:14 GMT -5
Interesting read and explains the doubling down on Trump despite repeated evidence, from his own mouth no less, that he is not suitable for presidency. www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-convince-someone-when-facts-fail/In these examples, proponents' deepest held worldviews were perceived to be threatened by skeptics, making facts the enemy to be slayed. This power of belief over evidence is the result of two factors: cognitive dissonance and the backfire effect
In the classic 1956 book When Prophecy Fails, psychologist Leon Festinger and his co-authors described what happened to a UFO cult when the mother ship failed to arrive at the appointed time. Instead of admitting error, “members of the group sought frantically to convince the world of their beliefs,” and they made “a series of desperate attempts to erase their rankling dissonance by making prediction after prediction in the hope that one would come true.” Festinger called this cognitive dissonance, or the uncomfortable tension that comes from holding two conflicting thoughts simultaneously.
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Post by swamp on Oct 21, 2019 14:02:40 GMT -5
Since the Cabol including CNN and their leader has been partially exposed, I am hopeful we will be fine. It is the democratic voters who have to remove their blinders. The what, now? What's a Cabol? I thought it was the capital of Afghanistan
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 21, 2019 14:08:12 GMT -5
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 21, 2019 14:18:46 GMT -5
I wonder what evidence would have to come to light to sway your average Trump base supporter? My guess is "no amount" and that is scary. Trump seems like an odd choice to pledge one's undying allegiance. Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On HimPeter Wehner said there’s a reason why many of President Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters won’t turn on him. “It is almost like a hermetically sealed world,” Wehner said on CNN’s “Reliable Sources.” “Facts are like BBs, they’re just bouncing off of a brick wall. They just don’t penetrate.” “People decided early on for a variety of reasons to accommodate themselves to Donald Trump, some of them thinking that things would get better, that he would grow in office, that he would be surrounded by good people,” Wehner said. Instead, Trump has gotten worse. But because of their early accommodation of the president, these voters are essentially stuck with him. “Now it’s not just a defense of Trump. It’s a defense of their defense of Trump,” Wehner said. “To indict him is to indict themselves, and to indict their own judgment, and that’s hard for any human being.” The result: “They will defend him regardless of what happens, come hell or high water.” Article here: Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On HimI have my own theory. Conservatives have a much larger amygdala, which is the "fear center" of the brain. Trump's minions will continue to defend him, no matter what he does, as long as he can trot out various boogeymen to be afraid of. Mexican rapists. Terrorist Muslims. Lying media. Communist Democrats. Gun grabbers. Civil war. www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/11/22/at-yale-we-conducted-an-experiment-to-turn-conservatives-into-liberals-the-results-say-a-lot-about-our-political-divisions/Conservatives, it turns out, react more strongly to physical threat than liberals do. In fact, their greater concern with physical safety seems to be determined early in life: In one University of California study, the more fear a 4-year-old showed in a laboratory situation, the more conservative his or her political attitudes were found to be 20 years later. Brain imaging studies have even shown that the fear center of the brain, the amygdala, is actually larger in conservatives than in liberals.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 21, 2019 14:45:45 GMT -5
Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On HimPeter Wehner said there’s a reason why many of President Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters won’t turn on him. “It is almost like a hermetically sealed world,” Wehner said on CNN’s “Reliable Sources.” “Facts are like BBs, they’re just bouncing off of a brick wall. They just don’t penetrate.” “People decided early on for a variety of reasons to accommodate themselves to Donald Trump, some of them thinking that things would get better, that he would grow in office, that he would be surrounded by good people,” Wehner said. Instead, Trump has gotten worse. But because of their early accommodation of the president, these voters are essentially stuck with him. “Now it’s not just a defense of Trump. It’s a defense of their defense of Trump,” Wehner said. “To indict him is to indict themselves, and to indict their own judgment, and that’s hard for any human being.” The result: “They will defend him regardless of what happens, come hell or high water.” Article here: Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On Him I have my own theory. Conservatives have a much larger amygdala, which is the "fear center" of the brain. Trump's minions will continue to defend him, no matter what he does, as long as he can trot out various boogeymen to be afraid of. Mexican rapists. Terrorist Muslims. Lying media. Communist Democrats. Gun grabbers. Civil war. www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/11/22/at-yale-we-conducted-an-experiment-to-turn-conservatives-into-liberals-the-results-say-a-lot-about-our-political-divisions/Conservatives, it turns out, react more strongly to physical threat than liberals do. In fact, their greater concern with physical safety seems to be determined early in life: In one University of California study, the more fear a 4-year-old showed in a laboratory situation, the more conservative his or her political attitudes were found to be 20 years later. Brain imaging studies have even shown that the fear center of the brain, the amygdala, is actually larger in conservatives than in liberals. Maybe it's everything a few of us have posited.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 21, 2019 17:40:16 GMT -5
I wonder what evidence would have to come to light to sway your average Trump base supporter? My guess is "no amount" and that is scary. Trump seems like an odd choice to pledge one's undying allegiance. Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On HimPeter Wehner said there’s a reason why many of President Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters won’t turn on him. “It is almost like a hermetically sealed world,” Wehner said on CNN’s “Reliable Sources.” “Facts are like BBs, they’re just bouncing off of a brick wall. They just don’t penetrate.” “People decided early on for a variety of reasons to accommodate themselves to Donald Trump, some of them thinking that things would get better, that he would grow in office, that he would be surrounded by good people,” Wehner said. Instead, Trump has gotten worse. But because of their early accommodation of the president, these voters are essentially stuck with him. “Now it’s not just a defense of Trump. It’s a defense of their defense of Trump,” Wehner said. “To indict him is to indict themselves, and to indict their own judgment, and that’s hard for any human being.” The result: “They will defend him regardless of what happens, come hell or high water.” Article here: Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On Him#jurytampering
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 21, 2019 17:41:13 GMT -5
There is that too.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 21, 2019 17:41:45 GMT -5
The what, now? What's a Cabol? I thought it was the capital of Afghanistan i thought it was something we plug into our TV.
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Post by Opti on Oct 21, 2019 17:45:50 GMT -5
I think he means cabal. He has bought into the shit Trump was selling from the beginning, that a coup existed to take him out before he was elected. But that is impossible. There can be no coup of someone trying to be elected.
But its a loaded word, and it scared many conservatives into a OMG, OMG fear that awful others are trying to squelch Trump's ability to be elected. I didn't matter it was false. It didn't matter that most of the squelching came from the GOP side in the form of gerry-mandering and getting rid of voter classes perceived to be more likely to vote against the GOP. The fear was activated and logic has been ignored since.
Trump started the belief of the false coup. I'm not sure anyone can really stop it but him. He is the coup and so far seems to have found nothing of worth except two former lovers hoping Trump doesn't get elected and doing nothing worthwhile or even criminal to stop him. You can't stop a nothing burger coup. #Stop Trump's fake coup
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Post by Opti on Oct 21, 2019 17:51:09 GMT -5
"fight dirty" said the guy who invited several of the women who accused Bill Clinton of sexual harassment and abuse to his presidential debate with Hillary Clinton. Just one of among many, many other deplorable things he has said and done toward others. Trump urges GOP to defend him more strongly on impeachmentPresident Trump on Monday urged Republicans to offer him a tougher defense on impeachment amid a few signs of GOP discontent with his administration. At a Cabinet meeting, Trump praised Democratic unity while criticizing his own party for not sticking together. "The two things they have: They’re vicious and they stick together," he said of Democrats. "They don’t’ have (Sen.) Mitt Romney (R-Utah) in their midst. They don’t have people like that." Trump said Republicans have to "get tougher and fight" to counteract Democrats pursuing an impeachment inquiry. "And Republicans have to get tougher and fight," he continued. "We have some that are great fighters, but they have to get tougher and fight because the Democrats are trying to hurt the Republican party for the election, which is coming up, where we’re doing very well." Asked later to elaborate on his desire to see Republicans get tougher, Trump said he felt Democrats were "vicious." "I think the Democrats fight dirty. I think the Democrat are lousy politicians with lousy policy," he said. Complete article here: Trump urges GOP to defend him more strongly on impeachmentHe's doing his usual sell. He's lying about the Democrats in order to manipulate his Republicans to protect him. But I kind of love how he's really speaking about himself. He fights dirty, he's a lousy politician and has lousy policy. (His policy is a grab bag of what various Republicans had in the hopper. Except of course for his impulsive moves like sharing classified info with Russians and telling Turkey to go ahead.)
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 21, 2019 18:21:10 GMT -5
I wonder what evidence would have to come to light to sway your average Trump base supporter? My guess is "no amount" and that is scary. Trump seems like an odd choice to pledge one's undying allegiance. Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On HimPeter Wehner said there’s a reason why many of President Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters won’t turn on him. “It is almost like a hermetically sealed world,” Wehner said on CNN’s “Reliable Sources.” “Facts are like BBs, they’re just bouncing off of a brick wall. They just don’t penetrate.” “People decided early on for a variety of reasons to accommodate themselves to Donald Trump, some of them thinking that things would get better, that he would grow in office, that he would be surrounded by good people,” Wehner said. Instead, Trump has gotten worse. But because of their early accommodation of the president, these voters are essentially stuck with him. “Now it’s not just a defense of Trump. It’s a defense of their defense of Trump,” Wehner said. “To indict him is to indict themselves, and to indict their own judgment, and that’s hard for any human being.” The result: “They will defend him regardless of what happens, come hell or high water.” Article here: Ex-Bush Aide Has Damning Theory For Why Trump Supporters Won't Turn On HimMakes sense.
All the conservatives I know who support Trump claim that there are a lot of things they don't like about him - his tweets, his meanness, his lack of presidential demeanor, but they claim they have to reluctantly vote for him - I think it's because they don't want to admit they were wrong to buy into his whole song and dance.
Plus - some of my in laws are racists and while they don't like a lot of the shit Trump does, they feel like he's the only presidential candidate in their lifetime who was truly 'like them' and would defend the country from the brown invasion.
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