Not surprising to me, retired Senator Dodd gives ok to Biden

[dezii]

for POTUS...…………….I agree with him...always liked and supported Dodd when in Senate...IMHO the article kind of hits it right on the nail head...for me anyway.
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"Dodd, who represented Connecticut in the Senate from 1981 to 2011, said he is backing Biden because he believes the former vice president is the candidate who can defeat Republican President Donald Trump next year and chart a new direction for the nation."

"And every day, it is so important to restore the very soul of our nation.”
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www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-dodd-endorses-biden-20191018-4kxzivowffhhbo4vhlwzmr6i2y-story.html

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Oct 18, 2019 19:37:37 GMT -5 dezii said:

for POTUS...…………….I agree with him...always liked and supported Dodd when in Senate...IMHO the article kind of hits it right on the nail head...for me anyway.
=================================
"Dodd, who represented Connecticut in the Senate from 1981 to 2011, said he is backing Biden because he believes the former vice president is the candidate who can defeat Republican President Donald Trump next year and chart a new direction for the nation."

"And every day, it is so important to restore the very soul of our nation.”
---------------------------------------------------

www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-dodd-endorses-biden-20191018-4kxzivowffhhbo4vhlwzmr6i2y-story.html

Every time I read one of your posts, I swear it's like something from the Twilight Zone. Chris "Countrywide" Dodd embodies the exact kind of institutional Washington political establishment corruption Joe Biden is currently caught up in. This endorsement not only will not help Biden, it's actually one of the worst endorsements he could get. You've got one of the "Friends of Angelo" talking about restoring the soul of America? I mean you have to be fucking kidding me right now.

Bear in mind: we've got a President unafraid to "go there". He will get out a shovel and bury Biden with this.

www.entrepreneur.com/article/196180

[Tennesseer]

Oct 19, 2019 6:47:44 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 18, 2019 19:37:37 GMT -5 dezii said:

for POTUS...…………….I agree with him...always liked and supported Dodd when in Senate...IMHO the article kind of hits it right on the nail head...for me anyway.
=================================
"Dodd, who represented Connecticut in the Senate from 1981 to 2011, said he is backing Biden because he believes the former vice president is the candidate who can defeat Republican President Donald Trump next year and chart a new direction for the nation."

"And every day, it is so important to restore the very soul of our nation.”
---------------------------------------------------

www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-dodd-endorses-biden-20191018-4kxzivowffhhbo4vhlwzmr6i2y-story.html

Every time I read one of your posts, I swear it's like something from the Twilight Zone. Chris "Countrywide" Dodd embodies the exact kind of institutional Washington political establishment corruption Joe Biden is currently caught up in. This endorsement not only will not help Biden, it's actually one of the worst endorsements he could get. You've got one of the "Friends of Angelo" talking about restoring the soul of America? I mean you have to be fucking kidding me right now.

Bear in mind: we've got a President unafraid to "go there". He will get out a shovel and bury Biden with this.

www.entrepreneur.com/article/196180

Says the poster who threads read like SNL skits. Do you even have an inkling of self-awareness? 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Oct 19, 2019 8:02:27 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 19, 2019 6:47:44 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Every time I read one of your posts, I swear it's like something from the Twilight Zone. Chris "Countrywide" Dodd embodies the exact kind of institutional Washington political establishment corruption Joe Biden is currently caught up in. This endorsement not only will not help Biden, it's actually one of the worst endorsements he could get. You've got one of the "Friends of Angelo" talking about restoring the soul of America? I mean you have to be fucking kidding me right now.

Bear in mind: we've got a President unafraid to "go there". He will get out a shovel and bury Biden with this.

www.entrepreneur.com/article/196180

Says the poster who threads read like SNL skits. Do you even have an inkling of self-awareness? 

Dude, reality doesn’t look serious or real because you don’t live here. 2020 is going to be a political earthquake- a reckoning your side desperately needs.

[dezii]

Oct 19, 2019 8:02:27 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 19, 2019 6:47:44 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Every time I read one of your posts, I swear it's like something from the Twilight Zone. Chris "Countrywide" Dodd embodies the exact kind of institutional Washington political establishment corruption Joe Biden is currently caught up in. This endorsement not only will not help Biden, it's actually one of the worst endorsements he could get. You've got one of the "Friends of Angelo" talking about restoring the soul of America? I mean you have to be fucking kidding me right now.

Bear in mind: we've got a President unafraid to "go there". He will get out a shovel and bury Biden with this.

www.entrepreneur.com/article/196180

Says the poster who threads read like SNL skits. Do you even have an inkling of self-awareness? 

Actually Tenn I didn't see his post  but if I did my reply would have been along the lines of.... ……..

[tbop77]

Oct 19, 2019 6:47:44 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 18, 2019 19:37:37 GMT -5 dezii said:

for POTUS...…………….I agree with him...always liked and supported Dodd when in Senate...IMHO the article kind of hits it right on the nail head...for me anyway.
=================================
"Dodd, who represented Connecticut in the Senate from 1981 to 2011, said he is backing Biden because he believes the former vice president is the candidate who can defeat Republican President Donald Trump next year and chart a new direction for the nation."

"And every day, it is so important to restore the very soul of our nation.”
---------------------------------------------------

www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-dodd-endorses-biden-20191018-4kxzivowffhhbo4vhlwzmr6i2y-story.html

Every time I read one of your posts, I swear it's like something from the Twilight Zone. Chris "Countrywide" Dodd embodies the exact kind of institutional Washington political establishment corruption Joe Biden is currently caught up in. This endorsement not only will not help Biden, it's actually one of the worst endorsements he could get. You've got one of the "Friends of Angelo" talking about restoring the soul of America? I mean you have to be fucking kidding me right now.

Bear in mind: we've got a President unafraid to "go there". He will get out a shovel and bury Biden with this.

www.entrepreneur.com/article/196180

Every time I read one of you posts, I swear, it's like something from Dumb and Dumber.  The corruption President Trump is caught up in is worse than his political establishment corruption ever was.  Using the taxpayer money instead of his own.  I mean, you have to go be kidding me!
Bear in mind, we have a speaker of the house that is not afraid to "go there."  She will get a shovel out and bury Donald Trump.

But it wasn’t just committees on the far left side of the aisle that Trump was pouring money into…there were also light years to the left political individuals who reaped the reward from Trump’s deep left pocket.

Harry Reid has pocketed $8,400.00 from Donald Trump. Max Baccus…$2,000.00. Rahm Emmanual…$50,000.00, Jimmy Carter…$1,000.00, Joe Biden…$1,000.00, Shelly Berkley…$1,000.00, Kirsten Gillibrand…$4,800.00, Terry McCauliffe $25,000.00, Erskine Bowels…$1,000.00, Elliott Spitzer…$21,000.00, Hillary Clinton…$9,500.00, Andrew Cuomo…$84,000.00 and Tom Daschle…$4,000.00.

But that’s just the beginning…

There is also David Dinkins…$7,750.00, Chuck Schumer…$7,900.00, Chris Dodd…$3,000.00, Charlie Rangel…$24,750.00, Anthony Weiner…$4,450.00, Dick Durbin…$1,500.00, John Kerry…$5,500.00, Fritz Hollings…$3,000.00, Ted Kennedy…$7,000.00, Patrick Kennedy…$2,500.00, Bill Nelson…$2,000.00, Joe Leiberman…$4,000.00 and Carolyn Maloney who also pocketed $4,000.00 and those names don’t include other liberal organizations to which Trump financially supported like…
www.thenationalpatriot.com/2016/04/trumps-liberal-agenda-money-trail-part-2-of-2/

[Tennesseer]

Oct 19, 2019 9:40:08 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 19, 2019 8:02:27 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Says the poster who threads read like SNL skits. Do you even have an inkling of self-awareness? 

Dude, reality doesn’t look serious or real because you don’t live here. 2020 is going to be a political earthquake- a reckoning your side desperately needs.

Much like your 2018 red tsunami, eh?  How did that work out for you?

[dezii]

Oct 19, 2019 10:18:58 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Oct 19, 2019 6:47:44 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Every time I read one of your posts, I swear it's like something from the Twilight Zone. Chris "Countrywide" Dodd embodies the exact kind of institutional Washington political establishment corruption Joe Biden is currently caught up in. This endorsement not only will not help Biden, it's actually one of the worst endorsements he could get. You've got one of the "Friends of Angelo" talking about restoring the soul of America? I mean you have to be fucking kidding me right now.

Bear in mind: we've got a President unafraid to "go there". He will get out a shovel and bury Biden with this.

www.entrepreneur.com/article/196180

Every time I read one of you posts, I swear, it's like something from Dumb and Dumber.  The corruption President Trump is caught up in is worse than his political establishment corruption ever was.  Using the taxpayer money instead of his own.  I mean, you have to go be kidding me!
Bear in mind, we have a speaker of the house that is not afraid to "go there."  She will get a shovel out and bury Donald Trump.

But it wasn’t just committees on the far left side of the aisle that Trump was pouring money into…there were also light years to the left political individuals who reaped the reward from Trump’s deep left pocket.

Harry Reid has pocketed $8,400.00 from Donald Trump. Max Baccus…$2,000.00. Rahm Emmanual…$50,000.00, Jimmy Carter…$1,000.00, Joe Biden…$1,000.00, Shelly Berkley…$1,000.00, Kirsten Gillibrand…$4,800.00, Terry McCauliffe $25,000.00, Erskine Bowels…$1,000.00, Elliott Spitzer…$21,000.00, Hillary Clinton…$9,500.00, Andrew Cuomo…$84,000.00 and Tom Daschle…$4,000.00.

But that’s just the beginning…

There is also David Dinkins…$7,750.00, Chuck Schumer…$7,900.00, Chris Dodd…$3,000.00, Charlie Rangel…$24,750.00, Anthony Weiner…$4,450.00, Dick Durbin…$1,500.00, John Kerry…$5,500.00, Fritz Hollings…$3,000.00, Ted Kennedy…$7,000.00, Patrick Kennedy…$2,500.00, Bill Nelson…$2,000.00, Joe Leiberman…$4,000.00 and Carolyn Maloney who also pocketed $4,000.00 and those names don’t include other liberal organizations to which Trump financially supported like…
www.thenationalpatriot.com/2016/04/trumps-liberal-agenda-money-trail-part-2-of-2/

…………...a elite list of super liberal Dems over the years...the Kennedys..Liebermans...Dodd ...list is so long....Same Dems and their agendas  today as then that he disses daily and nightly.... …...

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Oct 19, 2019 10:44:24 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 19, 2019 9:40:08 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Dude, reality doesn’t look serious or real because you don’t live here. 2020 is going to be a political earthquake- a reckoning your side desperately needs.

Much like your 2018 red tsunami, eh?  How did that work out for you?

I underestimated how effective Paul Ryan's surrendering of the House would be. It worked. All in all, my prediction was more right than wrong. There was no "blue wave"- the GOP expanded its grip on the Senate, and Dems, who were predicted to win 60 plus House seats and 12 Senate Seats-- how'd that work out? 

Democrats are in the process of surrendering the White House and Congress. Impeachment is a tar baby. They're stuck with it- they can't drop it or they'll lose the nutters they need to hang on, and they can't actually go through with it or the wildly unpopular position will kill them with moderate and independent swing voters- that's why they've opted for fake impeachment. They'll never hold a vote because they can't go on record-- and the vote will fail. If the vote succeeded, the Senate would rapidly acquit and Trump would have been vindicated a fifth time. So, they're going to twist in the wind for another year trying to be "a little bit pregnant" on the impeachment issue-- and it's going to backfire. Bigly. And that's if the "Squad" doesn't get in the way and Tulsi doesn't gum up the works in the primary. Throw in Parscale's machine-- the formidable Trump ground game, and his natural buoancy in the polls and the actual facts on the ground- the Trump economic miracle, trade deals, finally getting us out of endless wars- among other things, and to be optimistic about Dems would not make much sense.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Oct 19, 2019 10:44:46 GMT -5 dezii said:

Oct 19, 2019 10:18:58 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Every time I read one of you posts, I swear, it's like something from Dumb and Dumber.  The corruption President Trump is caught up in is worse than his political establishment corruption ever was.  Using the taxpayer money instead of his own.  I mean, you have to go be kidding me!
Bear in mind, we have a speaker of the house that is not afraid to "go there."  She will get a shovel out and bury Donald Trump.

But it wasn’t just committees on the far left side of the aisle that Trump was pouring money into…there were also light years to the left political individuals who reaped the reward from Trump’s deep left pocket.

Harry Reid has pocketed $8,400.00 from Donald Trump. Max Baccus…$2,000.00. Rahm Emmanual…$50,000.00, Jimmy Carter…$1,000.00, Joe Biden…$1,000.00, Shelly Berkley…$1,000.00, Kirsten Gillibrand…$4,800.00, Terry McCauliffe $25,000.00, Erskine Bowels…$1,000.00, Elliott Spitzer…$21,000.00, Hillary Clinton…$9,500.00, Andrew Cuomo…$84,000.00 and Tom Daschle…$4,000.00.

But that’s just the beginning…

There is also David Dinkins…$7,750.00, Chuck Schumer…$7,900.00, Chris Dodd…$3,000.00, Charlie Rangel…$24,750.00, Anthony Weiner…$4,450.00, Dick Durbin…$1,500.00, John Kerry…$5,500.00, Fritz Hollings…$3,000.00, Ted Kennedy…$7,000.00, Patrick Kennedy…$2,500.00, Bill Nelson…$2,000.00, Joe Leiberman…$4,000.00 and Carolyn Maloney who also pocketed $4,000.00 and those names don’t include other liberal organizations to which Trump financially supported like…
www.thenationalpatriot.com/2016/04/trumps-liberal-agenda-money-trail-part-2-of-2/

…………...a elite list of super liberal Dems over the years...the Kennedys..Liebermans...Dodd ...list is so long....Same Dems and their agendas  today as then that he disses daily and nightly.... …...

Like I said- run of the mill moderate Republican billionaire from Manhattan. You guys calling him a "far right racist" is laughable.

[dondub]

Oct 19, 2019 15:03:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 19, 2019 10:44:24 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Much like your 2018 red tsunami, eh?  How did that work out for you?

I underestimated how effective Paul Ryan's surrendering of the House would be. It worked. All in all, my prediction was more right than wrong. There was no "blue wave"- the GOP expanded its grip on the Senate, and Dems, who were predicted to win 60 plus House seats and 12 Senate Seats-- how'd that work out? 

Democrats are in the process of surrendering the White House and Congress. Impeachment is a tar baby. They're stuck with it- they can't drop it or they'll lose the nutters they need to hang on, and they can't actually go through with it or the wildly unpopular position will kill them with moderate and independent swing voters- that's why they've opted for fake impeachment. They'll never hold a vote because they can't go on record-- and the vote will fail. If the vote succeeded, the Senate would rapidly acquit and Trump would have been vindicated a fifth time. So, they're going to twist in the wind for another year trying to be "a little bit pregnant" on the impeachment issue-- and it's going to backfire. Bigly. And that's if the "Squad" doesn't get in the way and Tulsi doesn't gum up the works in the primary. Throw in Parscale's machine-- the formidable Trump ground game, and his natural buoancy in the polls and the actual facts on the ground- the Trump economic miracle, trade deals, finally getting us out of endless wars- among other things, and to be optimistic about Dems would not make much sense.

Excellent spin on the 2018 elections, but snorting Dramamine can be injurious to your health.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 19, 2019 15:15:54 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oct 19, 2019 15:03:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I underestimated how effective Paul Ryan's surrendering of the House would be. It worked. All in all, my prediction was more right than wrong. There was no "blue wave"- the GOP expanded its grip on the Senate, and Dems, who were predicted to win 60 plus House seats and 12 Senate Seats-- how'd that work out? 

Democrats are in the process of surrendering the White House and Congress. Impeachment is a tar baby. They're stuck with it- they can't drop it or they'll lose the nutters they need to hang on, and they can't actually go through with it or the wildly unpopular position will kill them with moderate and independent swing voters- that's why they've opted for fake impeachment. They'll never hold a vote because they can't go on record-- and the vote will fail. If the vote succeeded, the Senate would rapidly acquit and Trump would have been vindicated a fifth time. So, they're going to twist in the wind for another year trying to be "a little bit pregnant" on the impeachment issue-- and it's going to backfire. Bigly. And that's if the "Squad" doesn't get in the way and Tulsi doesn't gum up the works in the primary. Throw in Parscale's machine-- the formidable Trump ground game, and his natural buoancy in the polls and the actual facts on the ground- the Trump economic miracle, trade deals, finally getting us out of endless wars- among other things, and to be optimistic about Dems would not make much sense.

Excellent spin on the 2018 elections, but snorting Dramamine can be injurious to your health.

Underestimated Mitt Romney too.

[tbop77]

Oct 19, 2019 15:05:54 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 19, 2019 10:44:46 GMT -5 dezii said:

…………...a elite list of super liberal Dems over the years...the Kennedys..Liebermans...Dodd ...list is so long....Same Dems and their agendas  today as then that he disses daily and nightly.... …...

Like I said- run of the mill moderate Republican billionaire from Manhattan. You guys calling him a "far right racist" is laughable.

What is even funnier is you calling him a Republican.  He'd throw you all under the bus if it benefitted him.  

[tallguy]

Oct 19, 2019 15:03:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 19, 2019 10:44:24 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Much like your 2018 red tsunami, eh?  How did that work out for you?

I underestimated how effective Paul Ryan's surrendering of the House would be. It worked. All in all, my prediction was more right than wrong. There was no "blue wave"- the GOP expanded its grip on the Senate, and Dems, who were predicted to win 60 plus House seats and 12 Senate Seats-- how'd that work out? 

Democrats are in the process of surrendering the White House and Congress. Impeachment is a tar baby. They're stuck with it- they can't drop it or they'll lose the nutters they need to hang on, and they can't actually go through with it or the wildly unpopular position will kill them with moderate and independent swing voters- that's why they've opted for fake impeachment. They'll never hold a vote because they can't go on record-- and the vote will fail. If the vote succeeded, the Senate would rapidly acquit and Trump would have been vindicated a fifth time. So, they're going to twist in the wind for another year trying to be "a little bit pregnant" on the impeachment issue-- and it's going to backfire. Bigly. And that's if the "Squad" doesn't get in the way and Tulsi doesn't gum up the works in the primary. Throw in Parscale's machine-- the formidable Trump ground game, and his natural buoancy in the polls and the actual facts on the ground- the Trump economic miracle, trade deals, finally getting us out of endless wars- among other things, and to be optimistic about Dems would not make much sense.

I have to give you credit.  I have never in my life seen anyone so absolutely convinced about their rightness while being so utterly, incredibly wrong pretty much always.  I don't even think Trump himself can challenge you on that score.  You can say with a straight face that you were more right than wrong when you would actually have been considered epically, historically wrong?  Unbelievable.   

First, nobody, ANYWHERE, was predicting the Democrats would pick up 60+ House seats.  There was pretty good evidence that they would pick up the 23 they needed to take control but it was not assured.  You as I recall predicted a +12 for the Republicans.  How did that go?  I recall telling you that Republicans only had to win 55 of the last eleven undecided races for you to be correct.  More right than wrong?    

And nobody, ANYWHERE, was predicting the Democrats would gain 12 Senate seats.  Do you know why?  Because it would have been F***ING IMPOSSIBLE!  The Republicans only had nine seats up for re-election, and most were considered safe.  Please tell us how the Democrats could win twelve of the nine available seats, and how anyone this side of a raving lunatic would predict a +12?  And let's go back a few years.  I recall you claiming that Romney could likely get over 370 electoral votes in 2012, and that no matter what happened it would be a blowout for him.  More right than wrong?

Nobody, ANYWHERE, is more consistently wrong on their political predictions.  And not only wrong, but utterly, incredibly, epically, historically, mind-blowingly wrong.  Pretty much always.      

[dondub]

Nailed it with a silver hammer and a golden nail.

[tallguy]

Oct 19, 2019 19:14:56 GMT -5 dondub said:

Nailed it with a silver hammer and a golden nail.

At some point one would hope that a poster would realize they cannot pass off such ridiculous lies and bulllsh** to someone who:
1.  Cares about the truth.
2.  Cares about the issue.
3.  Is smarter than they are.

Then again, lunatics are not often blessed with self-awareness.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Oct 19, 2019 19:01:32 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Oct 19, 2019 15:03:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I underestimated how effective Paul Ryan's surrendering of the House would be. It worked. All in all, my prediction was more right than wrong. There was no "blue wave"- the GOP expanded its grip on the Senate, and Dems, who were predicted to win 60 plus House seats and 12 Senate Seats-- how'd that work out? 

Democrats are in the process of surrendering the White House and Congress. Impeachment is a tar baby. They're stuck with it- they can't drop it or they'll lose the nutters they need to hang on, and they can't actually go through with it or the wildly unpopular position will kill them with moderate and independent swing voters- that's why they've opted for fake impeachment. They'll never hold a vote because they can't go on record-- and the vote will fail. If the vote succeeded, the Senate would rapidly acquit and Trump would have been vindicated a fifth time. So, they're going to twist in the wind for another year trying to be "a little bit pregnant" on the impeachment issue-- and it's going to backfire. Bigly. And that's if the "Squad" doesn't get in the way and Tulsi doesn't gum up the works in the primary. Throw in Parscale's machine-- the formidable Trump ground game, and his natural buoancy in the polls and the actual facts on the ground- the Trump economic miracle, trade deals, finally getting us out of endless wars- among other things, and to be optimistic about Dems would not make much sense.

I have to give you credit.  I have never in my life seen anyone so absolutely convinced about their rightness while being so utterly, incredibly wrong pretty much always.  I don't even think Trump himself can challenge you on that score.  You can say with a straight face that you were more right than wrong when you would actually have been considered epically, historically wrong?  Unbelievable.   

First, nobody, ANYWHERE, was predicting the Democrats would pick up 60+ House seats.  There was pretty good evidence that they would pick up the 23 they needed to take control but it was not assured.  You as I recall predicted a +12 for the Republicans.  How did that go?  I recall telling you that Republicans only had to win 55 of the last eleven undecided races for you to be correct.  More right than wrong?    

And nobody, ANYWHERE, was predicting the Democrats would gain 12 Senate seats.  Do you know why?  Because it would have been F***ING IMPOSSIBLE!  The Republicans only had nine seats up for re-election, and most were considered safe.  Please tell us how the Democrats could win twelve of the nine available seats, and how anyone this side of a raving lunatic would predict a +12?  And let's go back a few years.  I recall you claiming that Romney could likely get over 370 electoral votes in 2012, and that no matter what happened it would be a blowout for him.  More right than wrong?

Nobody, ANYWHERE, is more consistently wrong on their political predictions.  And not only wrong, but utterly, incredibly, epically, historically, mind-blowingly wrong.  Pretty much always.      

I'm sorry- who got the GOP nomination in 2016? And who beat Hillary? And Bob Mueller is...where is he these days? And who is still POTUS? 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Oct 19, 2019 17:06:47 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Oct 19, 2019 15:05:54 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Like I said- run of the mill moderate Republican billionaire from Manhattan. You guys calling him a "far right racist" is laughable.

What is even funnier is you calling him a Republican.  He'd throw you all under the bus if it benefitted him.  

Well, there's where you're wrong. He may not be my ideological fellow traveler, but like FDR- with whom I disagree on virtually everything, and who more than any other POTUS with the possible exception of LBJ, put us in the mess we're in today- he's a patriot. People without TDS see this quite clearly though we may disagree with him on many issues.

[tallguy]

Oct 19, 2019 23:03:26 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 19, 2019 19:01:32 GMT -5 tallguy said:

I have to give you credit.  I have never in my life seen anyone so absolutely convinced about their rightness while being so utterly, incredibly wrong pretty much always.  I don't even think Trump himself can challenge you on that score.  You can say with a straight face that you were more right than wrong when you would actually have been considered epically, historically wrong?  Unbelievable.   

First, nobody, ANYWHERE, was predicting the Democrats would pick up 60+ House seats.  There was pretty good evidence that they would pick up the 23 they needed to take control but it was not assured.  You as I recall predicted a +12 for the Republicans.  How did that go?  I recall telling you that Republicans only had to win 55 of the last eleven undecided races for you to be correct.  More right than wrong?    

And nobody, ANYWHERE, was predicting the Democrats would gain 12 Senate seats.  Do you know why?  Because it would have been F***ING IMPOSSIBLE!  The Republicans only had nine seats up for re-election, and most were considered safe.  Please tell us how the Democrats could win twelve of the nine available seats, and how anyone this side of a raving lunatic would predict a +12?  And let's go back a few years.  I recall you claiming that Romney could likely get over 370 electoral votes in 2012, and that no matter what happened it would be a blowout for him.  More right than wrong?

Nobody, ANYWHERE, is more consistently wrong on their political predictions.  And not only wrong, but utterly, incredibly, epically, historically, mind-blowingly wrong.  Pretty much always.      

I'm sorry- who got the GOP nomination in 2016? And who beat Hillary? And Bob Mueller is...where is he these days? And who is still POTUS? 

I did say "pretty much always" because even a broken clock can be right twice a day, but let's examine those:

Trump did get the nomination, due mostly to the short-sightedness and gullibility (not to mention hypocrisy and stupidity) of GOP voters.  He was a horrible person and candidate, mere marketer and conman, and promised to be a horrible president.  He has sadly fulfilled that expectation to a worse degree than most thought possible, and even his supporters are starting to realize that now.

He beat Hillary, who was a flawed candidate herself, but how many things can you attribute that to?  In no particular (maybe chronological?) order, there was the death of Beau Biden which caused Joe Biden not to run.  Joe would most likely have beaten Trump easily.  There was the possible (probable?) influence of foreign nationals or countries, which is at least arguable.  There was the systematic disenfranchisement of voters by far-right conservatives, which is documented.  There was the poor campaign run by Clinton, who was not an inspiring choice to begin with, and a poor choice by James Comey which likely caused late-deciding voters to break for Trump.  Primarily, however, there was the historical anachronism called the Electoral College, which should have been abolished a century ago and twice in 16 years has served to subvert the will of the American people.  The American people did not vote for Donald Trump.  2.9 million more voted for Hillary Clinton.  

Bob Mueller did his job, laying out the argument for 10 cases of obstruction of justice.  He was constrained by the prevailing opinion that he could not charge a sitting president, but did basically state that there was enough evidence to charge Trump once he was out of office, and implied strongly that he would have charged Trump if he could have.

And Trump is still president...for now.  I'll say again that it took only one month for public opinion to hit 50% in favor of Trump's impeachment and removal from office.  It took 14 months for Richard Nixon to cross that line.  I do not have a lot of faith that Republicans in the Senate have the integrity to actually put the country first and remove this idiot, but if the evidence keeps mounting, and public clamor keeps building, they may indeed be shamed into it.  I do believe that, as was reported, more than 30 GOP members would vote to remove Trump if there was a secret ballot to convict.  I hope they can develop enough courage to actually do their job, or that there is enough of a change in public opinion that they think they have the political cover to do what is needed.     


     

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Oct 19, 2019 19:01:32 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Oct 19, 2019 15:03:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I underestimated how effective Paul Ryan's surrendering of the House would be. It worked. All in all, my prediction was more right than wrong. There was no "blue wave"- the GOP expanded its grip on the Senate, and Dems, who were predicted to win 60 plus House seats and 12 Senate Seats-- how'd that work out? 

Democrats are in the process of surrendering the White House and Congress. Impeachment is a tar baby. They're stuck with it- they can't drop it or they'll lose the nutters they need to hang on, and they can't actually go through with it or the wildly unpopular position will kill them with moderate and independent swing voters- that's why they've opted for fake impeachment. They'll never hold a vote because they can't go on record-- and the vote will fail. If the vote succeeded, the Senate would rapidly acquit and Trump would have been vindicated a fifth time. So, they're going to twist in the wind for another year trying to be "a little bit pregnant" on the impeachment issue-- and it's going to backfire. Bigly. And that's if the "Squad" doesn't get in the way and Tulsi doesn't gum up the works in the primary. Throw in Parscale's machine-- the formidable Trump ground game, and his natural buoancy in the polls and the actual facts on the ground- the Trump economic miracle, trade deals, finally getting us out of endless wars- among other things, and to be optimistic about Dems would not make much sense.

I have to give you credit.  I have never in my life seen anyone so absolutely convinced about their rightness while being so utterly, incredibly wrong pretty much always.  I don't even think Trump himself can challenge you on that score.  You can say with a straight face that you were more right than wrong when you would actually have been considered epically, historically wrong?  Unbelievable.   

First, nobody, ANYWHERE, was predicting the Democrats would pick up 60+ House seats.  There was pretty good evidence that they would pick up the 23 they needed to take control but it was not assured.  You as I recall predicted a +12 for the Republicans.  How did that go?  I recall telling you that Republicans only had to win 55 of the last eleven undecided races for you to be correct.  More right than wrong?    

And nobody, ANYWHERE, was predicting the Democrats would gain 12 Senate seats.  Do you know why?  Because it would have been F***ING IMPOSSIBLE!  The Republicans only had nine seats up for re-election, and most were considered safe.  Please tell us how the Democrats could win twelve of the nine available seats, and how anyone this side of a raving lunatic would predict a +12?  And let's go back a few years.  I recall you claiming that Romney could likely get over 370 electoral votes in 2012, and that no matter what happened it would be a blowout for him.  More right than wrong?

Nobody, ANYWHERE, is more consistently wrong on their political predictions.  And not only wrong, but utterly, incredibly, epically, historically, mind-blowingly wrong.  Pretty much always.      

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Oct 19, 2019 23:13:05 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 19, 2019 17:06:47 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

What is even funnier is you calling him a Republican.  He'd throw you all under the bus if it benefitted him.  

Well, there's where you're wrong. He may not be my ideological fellow traveler, but like FDR- with whom I disagree on virtually everything, and who more than any other POTUS with the possible exception of LBJ, put us in the mess we're in today- he's a patriot. People without TDS see this quite clearly though we may disagree with him on many issues.

See, there is where you are wrong.  One symptom of TDS is you think because I see President Trump clearly for what he is, that I have it....when in all reality, you are the one suffering from TDS.  And like President Trump, you hear voices....of Hillary and President Obama.  And don't worry, if you disagree with him on an issue, he'll change with the wind....if it benefits him.