Mudd: "Clock Ticking" For Dems Before Barr Finds Out...

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

...How Trump Probe Started.

"There's one other issue nobody talks about, Don, that's important and that is eventually the FBI and the DOJ are going to conclude the investigations as to how the [Russian collusion probe] was initiated. I'm going to predict to you that that is going to go ugly early. In other words, the Democrats have a clock ticking. If they can't get things under way before the Department of Justice says, "Here's our report on how the investigation was initiated", they're in trouble because the Department of Justice, I'm going to tell you is going to say, "When this thing got started about the Trump campaign, it was pretty ugly", and then we're off to the races- the White House will have some real ammo.

So, impeachment inquiry theater is all a smoke screen. 


www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/04/cnns_phil_mudd_clock_ticking_for_democrats_before_barr_finds_out_how_trump_probe_started.html?fbclid=IwAR2TjWv_JlCcoLmw1TnlCPp-JSb6eXIhgmn-l-_iKgp8ND8Vj8HtoaWk0t8

[weltschmerz]

Lol! Tell us ignorant peons again about how there were only 12 American soldiers in Syria. 

 I think you were confusing them with a carton of eggs.

[Tennesseer]

It's regicide!

[tbop77]

Should have them all locked up by....what? Jan 2021?

[dezii]

Oct 9, 2019 16:19:21 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Lol! Tell us ignorant peons again about how there were only 12 American soldiers in Syria. 

 I think you were confusing them with a carton of eggs.

I thought about 2000 or so which is a small detachment....

I believe that the # actually involved in the area Turks are attacking is quite small however....

Since the mission of American Special Forces, the green beret folks, is not to be super offensive types but to be teachers of the what ever local forces they are attached to..Thus deployed in small teanms...specialist in their fields as cross trained in others.....

Able to mobilize them as seriouse fighting allies...their mission...Examples, Montagnard and Vietnamese villages…. and today folks like the Kurds and according to reports, they did a great job against ISIS...

Few Americans actually fighting and dyeing...many ISIS and Kurds dying...and now to abandon them...being bombed...hit with artillery with no defense..and the Donalds answer to abandoning them is to bring up Normandy...WW2..? The man is f ing off the wall...

I am sure many Kurds did participate in WW2 but it would have been in the Soviet theater and with over twenty million dead by the Soviets.....I am sure there were the fair amount of kurds in that #..

For shame on this man and his supporters here to remain silent and agree with his abandonment...if so...then shame on them  too...  

[dondub]

Your guy just sold out the Kurds, huge allies in the War On Terror. Doesn’t he support the War On Terror?

[NastyWoman]

Oct 9, 2019 21:23:14 GMT -5 dondub said:

Your guy just sold out the Kurds, huge allies in the War On Terror. Doesn’t he support the War On Terror?

I can't believe I have to explain this to you. It's called the Art of the Deal. You make others do your work for you and then you renege on your responsibilities. It is similar to stiffing your contractors after they build your casinos/hotels/whatever. But with a twist: by having the Turks slaughter the Kurds he is cutting out the lawyers -> more money "saved". 

[OldCoyote]

Why should We stay in a war that is not winnable??

You think We should keep throwing tons of money into when when it can not be won.

We put money in, the Russians put money in!!

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Oct 9, 2019 21:23:14 GMT -5 dondub said:

Your guy just sold out the Kurds, huge allies in the War On Terror. Doesn’t he support the War On Terror?

Who gives a fuck about the Kurds. Fuck the Kurds. What's in THEIR fight for us? Impractical, virtue-signalling, thankless Europeans will soon get a taste of what it means to be without US security—as removal of US forces enables migrants to move freely to Turkey. Americans have been conditioned to believe that Kurds are some kind of saints in the desert. This has been done using glorified—real, imagined and mostly mythical—stories of Kurd female fighters. Westerners have been taken in by video and pics of attractive young women in the middle east with no head covering in military contexts. It's important to understand the culture- there is no loyalty. There is no concept of betrayal in the Middle East. Everything is based on expediency. These are tribal people—including the Kurds—who fight with everyone, including within their tribes and families, the reason why they are so impotent and self-destructive. Internecine violence helps them stay focused within their own borders and will keep Iran, Turkey, etc. focused as well. And exactly how many people like this does the world need running around? I'd say fewer- so conflict helps with that as well. I've never seen the problem with tribal people thousands of miles away killing each other-- if that's what they choose to do-- and I certainly can't figure out the benefit to us of trying to break up the fight?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Oct 10, 2019 10:02:30 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Why should We stay in a war that is not winnable??

You think We should keep throwing tons of money into when when it can not be won.

We put money in, the Russians put money in!!

It's not even just unwinnable-- it's undefinable. When an American soldier comes home dead, it ought to at least be explainable what war he was killed fighting in, what the war was about? If you can't explain how the country is worse off for having not sent our soldiers to die there- then you don't send them.

[weltschmerz]

Oct 10, 2019 13:00:08 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 9, 2019 21:23:14 GMT -5 dondub said:

Your guy just sold out the Kurds, huge allies in the War On Terror. Doesn’t he support the War On Terror?

Who gives a fuck about the Kurds. Fuck the Kurds. What's in THEIR fight for us? Impractical, virtue-signalling, thankless Europeans will soon get a taste of what it means to be without US security—as removal of US forces enables migrants to move freely to Turkey. Americans have been conditioned to believe that Kurds are some kind of saints in the desert. This has been done using glorified—real, imagined and mostly mythical—stories of Kurd female fighters. Westerners have been taken in by video and pics of attractive young women in the middle east with no head covering in military contexts. It's important to understand the culture- there is no loyalty. There is no concept of betrayal in the Middle East. Everything is based on expediency. These are tribal people—including the Kurds—who fight with everyone, including within their tribes and families, the reason why they are so impotent and self-destructive. Internecine violence helps them stay focused within their own borders and will keep Iran, Turkey, etc. focused as well. And exactly how many people like this does the world need running around? I'd say fewer- so conflict helps with that as well. I've never seen the problem with tribal people thousands of miles away killing each other-- if that's what they choose to do-- and I certainly can't figure out the benefit to us of trying to break up the fight?

You're such a good Christian, filled with the milk of human kindness.

[kadee79]

Oct 10, 2019 13:09:03 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Oct 10, 2019 13:00:08 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Who gives a fuck about the Kurds. Fuck the Kurds. What's in THEIR fight for us? Impractical, virtue-signalling, thankless Europeans will soon get a taste of what it means to be without US security—as removal of US forces enables migrants to move freely to Turkey. Americans have been conditioned to believe that Kurds are some kind of saints in the desert. This has been done using glorified—real, imagined and mostly mythical—stories of Kurd female fighters. Westerners have been taken in by video and pics of attractive young women in the middle east with no head covering in military contexts. It's important to understand the culture- there is no loyalty. There is no concept of betrayal in the Middle East. Everything is based on expediency. These are tribal people—including the Kurds—who fight with everyone, including within their tribes and families, the reason why they are so impotent and self-destructive. Internecine violence helps them stay focused within their own borders and will keep Iran, Turkey, etc. focused as well. And exactly how many people like this does the world need running around? I'd say fewer- so conflict helps with that as well. I've never seen the problem with tribal people thousands of miles away killing each other-- if that's what they choose to do-- and I certainly can't figure out the benefit to us of trying to break up the fight?

You're such a good Christian, filled with the milk of human kindness.

And so short sighted too....who will come to our aid when we need it since the US can no longer be trusted to stand by it's allies?

[mmhmm]

Oct 10, 2019 13:00:08 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 9, 2019 21:23:14 GMT -5 dondub said:

Your guy just sold out the Kurds, huge allies in the War On Terror. Doesn’t he support the War On Terror?

Who gives a fuck about the Kurds. Fuck the Kurds. What's in THEIR fight for us? Impractical, virtue-signalling, thankless Europeans will soon get a taste of what it means to be without US security—as removal of US forces enables migrants to move freely to Turkey. Americans have been conditioned to believe that Kurds are some kind of saints in the desert. This has been done using glorified—real, imagined and mostly mythical—stories of Kurd female fighters. Westerners have been taken in by video and pics of attractive young women in the middle east with no head covering in military contexts. It's important to understand the culture- there is no loyalty. There is no concept of betrayal in the Middle East. Everything is based on expediency. These are tribal people—including the Kurds—who fight with everyone, including within their tribes and families, the reason why they are so impotent and self-destructive. Internecine violence helps them stay focused within their own borders and will keep Iran, Turkey, etc. focused as well. And exactly how many people like this does the world need running around? I'd say fewer- so conflict helps with that as well. I've never seen the problem with tribal people thousands of miles away killing each other-- if that's what they choose to do-- and I certainly can't figure out the benefit to us of trying to break up the fight?

I give a fuck about Kurds! You don't know one damned thing about Kurds. You've never met one, never spoken with one, never shared a meal with one. You just babble on highlighting your ignorance. Give us a break!

[djAdvocate]

Osama Bin Laden would be proud of his achievement.

[thyme4change]

Oct 10, 2019 13:52:30 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Oct 10, 2019 13:09:03 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

You're such a good Christian, filled with the milk of human kindness.

And so short sighted too....who will come to our aid when we need it since the US can no longer be trusted to stand by it's allies?

I think it has been proven that bad actors can get here very easily and bring this fight onto American soil. Just as long as they don't bring more than 3 oz of shampoo.

[OldCoyote]

Oct 10, 2019 13:52:30 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Oct 10, 2019 13:09:03 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

You're such a good Christian, filled with the milk of human kindness.

And so short sighted too....who will come to our aid when we need it since the US can no longer be trusted to stand by it's allies?

WHO cares if they don't like it!!

[NastyWoman]

Oct 10, 2019 18:28:06 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Oct 10, 2019 13:52:30 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

And so short sighted too....who will come to our aid when we need it since the US can no longer be trusted to stand by it's allies?

I think it has been proven that bad actors can get here very easily and bring this fight onto American soil. Just as long as they don't bring more than 3 oz of shampoo.

In a clear plastic baggy → or else...

[hurley1980]

Oct 10, 2019 17:51:03 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Oct 10, 2019 13:00:08 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Who gives a fuck about the Kurds. Fuck the Kurds. What's in THEIR fight for us? Impractical, virtue-signalling, thankless Europeans will soon get a taste of what it means to be without US security—as removal of US forces enables migrants to move freely to Turkey. Americans have been conditioned to believe that Kurds are some kind of saints in the desert. This has been done using glorified—real, imagined and mostly mythical—stories of Kurd female fighters. Westerners have been taken in by video and pics of attractive young women in the middle east with no head covering in military contexts. It's important to understand the culture- there is no loyalty. There is no concept of betrayal in the Middle East. Everything is based on expediency. These are tribal people—including the Kurds—who fight with everyone, including within their tribes and families, the reason why they are so impotent and self-destructive. Internecine violence helps them stay focused within their own borders and will keep Iran, Turkey, etc. focused as well. And exactly how many people like this does the world need running around? I'd say fewer- so conflict helps with that as well. I've never seen the problem with tribal people thousands of miles away killing each other-- if that's what they choose to do-- and I certainly can't figure out the benefit to us of trying to break up the fight?

I give a fuck about Kurds! You don't know one damned thing about Kurds. You've never met one, never spoken with one, never shared a meal with one. You just babble on highlighting your ignorance. Give us a break!

I do as well.  And most importantly, our boots on the ground care about the Kurds!  They are more than just an ally, they are our brothers and sisters in arms who have been fighting along side us as one team!  Anyone who thinks it is okay to abandon the Kurds is basically saying it is okay to abandon our own soldiers.  I sure hope the people for this withdrawal were never or aren't currently a part of our military, because they are the type of people that would abandon their own unit when the going gets tough.  The US military doesn't have room for "kitties" like that.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Oct 10, 2019 21:57:18 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Oct 10, 2019 13:52:30 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

And so short sighted too....who will come to our aid when we need it since the US can no longer be trusted to stand by it's allies?

WHO cares if they don't like it!!

People who realize that the US is not the center of the universe.  

But who cares you'll be dead by the time the consequences of our decisions become clear.

[thyme4change]

Oct 10, 2019 21:57:18 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Oct 10, 2019 13:52:30 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

And so short sighted too....who will come to our aid when we need it since the US can no longer be trusted to stand by it's allies?

WHO cares if they don't like it!!

I believe you misinterpreted this statement. The 'short sightedness' means if we need them some day, they won't be there for us. And, we did need them to fight ISIS. It is entirely possible we will need them again.

[weltschmerz]

Oct 11, 2019 14:48:12 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

Oct 10, 2019 17:51:03 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I give a fuck about Kurds! You don't know one damned thing about Kurds. You've never met one, never spoken with one, never shared a meal with one. You just babble on highlighting your ignorance. Give us a break!

I do as well.  And most importantly, our boots on the ground care about the Kurds!  They are more than just an ally, they are our brothers and sisters in arms who have been fighting along side us as one team!  Anyone who thinks it is okay to abandon the Kurds is basically saying it is okay to abandon our own soldiers.  I sure hope the people for this withdrawal were never or aren't currently a part of our military, because they are the type of people that would abandon their own unit when the going gets tough.  The US military doesn't have room for "kitties" like that.

Through these fields of destruction

Baptisms of fire

I've witnessed your suffering

As the battle raged higher

And though they did hurt me so bad

In the fear and alarm

You did not desert me

My brothers in arms

-Dire Straits

Well, that certainly doesn't hold true anymore, with that ignorant psycho in the WH.

[dondub]

[weltschmerz]

Great song!

[dondub]

Well you brought it up!

[happyhoix]

Oct 10, 2019 13:00:08 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Oct 9, 2019 21:23:14 GMT -5 dondub said:

Your guy just sold out the Kurds, huge allies in the War On Terror. Doesn’t he support the War On Terror?

Who gives a fuck about the Kurds. Fuck the Kurds. What's in THEIR fight for us? Impractical, virtue-signalling, thankless Europeans will soon get a taste of what it means to be without US security—as removal of US forces enables migrants to move freely to Turkey. Americans have been conditioned to believe that Kurds are some kind of saints in the desert. This has been done using glorified—real, imagined and mostly mythical—stories of Kurd female fighters. Westerners have been taken in by video and pics of attractive young women in the middle east with no head covering in military contexts. It's important to understand the culture- there is no loyalty. There is no concept of betrayal in the Middle East. Everything is based on expediency. These are tribal people—including the Kurds—who fight with everyone, including within their tribes and families, the reason why they are so impotent and self-destructive. Internecine violence helps them stay focused within their own borders and will keep Iran, Turkey, etc. focused as well. And exactly how many people like this does the world need running around? I'd say fewer- so conflict helps with that as well. I've never seen the problem with tribal people thousands of miles away killing each other-- if that's what they choose to do-- and I certainly can't figure out the benefit to us of trying to break up the fight?

Except for this: 750 ISIS affiliates escaped Syrian camp after Turkish shelling.   www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/13/kurds-say-785-isis-affiliates-have-escaped-camp-after-turkish-shelling

 

Trump seems to think all those liberated ISIS fighters will only want to go to Europe - given his track record internationally so far, I think we can all be confident the resurgence of ISIS is going to pose significant security issues for the US.

For example, Trump claimed Erdogan promised he would not go after civilians and Kurds - of course, we found out immediately that was a lie, and now that Trump has attempted to rein Erdogan in with threats of economic sanctions, Erdogan is claiming he will never accept a ceasefire, and won't even talk to Pence or Pompano when they visit. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/erdogan-trump-turkey-syria-ceasefire-sanctions-a9157621.html

Trump literally opened Pandora's box in the Middle East, and you're blowing that off as 'tribal fighting' - like the tinder box in the Middle East has never and will never matter to the US.

And seriously, your rant about female Kurd fighters is disturbing on a whole different level.

[swamp]

I've posted here long enough that I should not be surprised and sickened by certain posts.    yet, here I am, again, mouth agape and wondering how a few people can be so cold hearted, evil, short sighted, and stupid.  

[happyhoix]

This whole 'Barr is investigating something that will blow open this whole country and will lead to all the Dems being frog marched out to the streets and shot at dawn' story line is nearly identical to the conspiracy theory that claimed the whole Mueller investigation was actually researching how the DNC and Hillary had conspired to create the fake dossier and once Mueller was finished, it would all be revealed, and it would blow the whole country apart and lead to all the Dems (especially Hillary) being frog marched to the streets and shot.

I think with some effort the conspiracy black hat/dark star nut jobs could come up with more diverse and entertaining deep throat plots. The Hillary child sex rings being run out of a pizza joint - that was pretty damn entertaining. The QAnon melodrama, with the cryptic notes and photos taken out of plane windows that may or may not be Air Force One plane windows - we need more conspiracy plots like those, or I'm going to lose interest.

[kadee79]

^^^^I thought there was a new one out...but I can't remember what it was now....read about it a day or two ago but don't remember where now either.

[billisonboard]

The clock went off: