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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 10:55:43 GMT -5
No-kill shelters would almost guaranteed not take an injured animal. Not to get into the fact that no-kill shelters will euthanize non-adoptable animals and the longer an animal is left there, especially dogs, the less likely they are to ever be adopted. It's marketing, and a reason more animals are abandoned. Shelters in rural areas can barely take in puppies and kittens. Why are they called no-kill shelters? I get that they stop taking animals because they are full but I didn't know they would then euthanize. I thought that was the point of a no-kill shelter? That's a big myth that no-kill shelters don't euthanize period. They still do for medical or non-adoptable. It's impossible for them not to. Plus ours will farm out adoptable animals to other shelters once it's over full. Some of the shelters it utilizes are kill shelters.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 1, 2019 11:04:56 GMT -5
No-kill shelters would almost guaranteed not take an injured animal. Not to get into the fact that no-kill shelters will euthanize non-adoptable animals and the longer an animal is left there, especially dogs, the less likely they are to ever be adopted. It's marketing, and a reason more animals are abandoned. Shelters in rural areas can barely take in puppies and kittens. Why are they called no-kill shelters? I get that they stop taking animals because they are full but I didn't know they would then euthanize. I thought that was the point of a no-kill shelter? My guess is a lot of mental gymnastics. They don't kill animals just because they're out of room and new animals are coming, and that definitely happens at traditional shelters. But the no-kill shelter simply refusing to accept new animals increases the likelihood that the animal will be dumped on the side of the road which definitely isn't better than a humane euthanasia. Plus animals that stay at the shelter are more and more likely to become unadoptable. Dsis spent the last several years managing a no-kill cat shelter. She increased adoptions significantly and was trying to get to a point that they never turned someone away, but we've also had 2 years where it's warm enough to always be kitten season which makes that goal pretty tough. She had a few cats that would never leave that shelter. I know the staff and volunteers, and they were about as ideal a set up as possible. They certainly love the animals and they did keep those cats even knowing they'd never be adopted. But that love isn't enough imo to live out the rest of your life essentially institutionalized. Euthanasia is still preferable.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 1, 2019 11:38:41 GMT -5
Let's not make this into a similar kind of situation and don't judge so harshly without having walked a mile in Rockhounder's shoes
It already happened. Shasta deleted her account.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 1, 2019 11:41:22 GMT -5
The local no-kill shelter takes in overflow from other shelters, mostly dogs.
For unsociable cats, they will let them be farm cats. Not all no-kill shelters are rural enough that they can do that.
It also isn't good for an animal to be in a shelter for years, which can happen in a no-kill shelter.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 1, 2019 12:17:12 GMT -5
Let's not make this into a similar kind of situation and don't judge so harshly without having walked a mile in Rockhounder's shoes
It already happened. Shasta deleted her account. we should really be ashamed of ourselves...
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 1, 2019 12:19:18 GMT -5
It already happened. Shasta deleted her account. we should really be ashamed of ourselves... I feel really bad.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 1, 2019 12:25:23 GMT -5
we should really be ashamed of ourselves... I feel really bad. I understand and I am not letting anyone off the hook here: I believe that no one intended to chase Shasta off. But we all have read her posts and are to some extend aware of how tenuous her financial situation is.
Some comments should not have been made on the one hand, yet on the other hand I (and others) should have spoken up way earlier. I hope she'll come back as she does present a side of this world we live in that few of us have any true insight in. And she does an admirable job with the tools she has available
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 12:28:52 GMT -5
For unsociable cats, they will let them be farm cats. Not all no-kill shelters are rural enough that they can do that.. That's how I get my barn cats.
But, even with free adoption animals our shelter is still overrun with cats and have now taken to establishing feral colonies on the fringes of town which has been causing a bit of an uproar with residents. They basically put up a shelter and volunteers put food out for the cats, but the open troughs of food are attracting skunks and possums to the area in droves as well as the cats.
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Post by bobosensei on Oct 3, 2019 6:59:35 GMT -5
I waited over 3 hours to see the vet yesterday only for him to basically make me feel horrible about not coughing up over $1K to "fix" my dog. This happened to me too when i decided not to do a bunch of stuff for my 13 year old dog that had a very aggressive malignant tumor. I boarded the dogs and during a drop off exam from the vet techs I got a call saying we feel a mass can we xray it will be 200 bucks. After the xray they call back and say there is a 15cm tumor and it is so large we can't see where all it is impacting can we ultrasound it will be 250? They call back after ultrasound same vet as before, but not the one that did the ultrasound and say we still can't see what we need to can we do exploratory surgery? If it is just a liver tumor we can remove and he will live the rest of his life normally. Keep in mind he's 13 and recovery is 2 months minimum. But if it has spread we might need to put him down on the table or refer to a specialist or maybe do chemo. When I said what is the prognosis they admitted it was likely an aggressive malignant tumor because of the size and how fast it grew (he'd had his checkup 2 months earlier with no sign of a problem) that it likely was not good. So I said I don't want to treat. The vet said well we will do our best to keep him comfortable and hopefully he makes it until you get back. I asked how long does he have and she said most people take the dog home to say goodbye and then put them down within days. When I picked the dog up from boarding the vet that did the ultrasound told me that he could see the tumor was on the spleen and liver (the vet I'd been talking to outright LIED about that) and he said take him home and if you seen that he is not eating or can't get up bring him back. Vet said they had no idea how big the tumor would keep getting or how long. My dog lasted another 2 months before I decided to take him back. He'd gone from eating 4 cans of dog food a day to about .75 of one and had regular moments where he didn't want to go for walks and had stopped playing with his toys the week before. It was tough on me, but I am glad I got those extra few months. I am still angry about feeling like that first vet was just out to make as much money as she could and might have convinced me to put down my dog when he wasn't in pain and had weeks of good life left. I mean I get that they should present all the options, but she withheld information and tried to guilt me. I will never go back to that place again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 9:15:49 GMT -5
I waited over 3 hours to see the vet yesterday only for him to basically make me feel horrible about not coughing up over $1K to "fix" my dog. This happened to me too when i decided not to do a bunch of stuff for my 13 year old dog that had a very aggressive malignant tumor. I boarded the dogs and during a drop off exam from the vet techs I got a call saying we feel a mass can we xray it will be 200 bucks. After the xray they call back and say there is a 15cm tumor and it is so large we can't see where all it is impacting can we ultrasound it will be 250? They call back after ultrasound same vet as before, but not the one that did the ultrasound and say we still can't see what we need to can we do exploratory surgery? If it is just a liver tumor we can remove and he will live the rest of his life normally. Keep in mind he's 13 and recovery is 2 months minimum. But if it has spread we might need to put him down on the table or refer to a specialist or maybe do chemo. When I said what is the prognosis they admitted it was likely an aggressive malignant tumor because of the size and how fast it grew (he'd had his checkup 2 months earlier with no sign of a problem) that it likely was not good. So I said I don't want to treat. The vet said well we will do our best to keep him comfortable and hopefully he makes it until you get back. I asked how long does he have and she said most people take the dog home to say goodbye and then put them down within days. When I picked the dog up from boarding the vet that did the ultrasound told me that he could see the tumor was on the spleen and liver (the vet I'd been talking to outright LIED about that) and he said take him home and if you seen that he is not eating or can't get up bring him back. Vet said they had no idea how big the tumor would keep getting or how long. My dog lasted another 2 months before I decided to take him back. He'd gone from eating 4 cans of dog food a day to about .75 of one and had regular moments where he didn't want to go for walks and had stopped playing with his toys the week before. It was tough on me, but I am glad I got those extra few months. I am still angry about feeling like that first vet was just out to make as much money as she could and might have convinced me to put down my dog when he wasn't in pain and had weeks of good life left. I mean I get that they should present all the options, but she withheld information and tried to guilt me. I will never go back to that place again. I don't know that vets are out to make money. I just think they are trained to treat their patients the way doctors are trained to treat human patients. In other words, they will suggest extreme measures regardless of cost. After all, these are our "fur babies" and "members of our family." This is a shift, I think, from how we used to think about pets. I love Abby with all my heart, but I do try to remember that she is a dog . . . at least every once in awhile.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 5, 2019 9:27:45 GMT -5
Anyone know why Rockhounder is no longer a member of the boards?
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Post by seriousthistime on Oct 5, 2019 10:05:57 GMT -5
I just tried to tag rockhounder and it looks like she may have left the board again.
Maybe she is still reading, so I'll post this for her and anyone else who may be in a similar situation.
There are lots of dog rescue organizations that may help. I adopted my lab mix from one of them. The organization I worked with often pulls dogs from shelters, even when they need serious medical help. They solicit donations from their large contact base, get the dogs fixed up if they can, and adopt them out to new owners. If they can't be fixed, they stay with a foster until their time comes. MANY senior dogs are adopted.
I tried to see if there was a Lab rescue organization in Northern California. There is, but they don't accept dogs who are not in good health. They do have a section on what to do if you can't afford medical care for your pet. It links to a page that provides assistance nationwide. In California, there are a lot of such places, with most providing pet food and spay/neuter services, but there are others that might be able to help in this situation.
As to whether someone should own a pet if they can't afford the costs, I have had that very conversation with my brother when he was thinking about buying a puppy (he's on disability and lives a very lean life) and we didn't speak after that for three years. Having had the $20,000 dog who lived almost 14 years, the cost is not in the acquisition or the routine maintenance, it's the catastrophic costs.
Anyway, rockhounder, if you're still reading, I'm sorry for your troubles.
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Post by seriousthistime on Oct 5, 2019 10:41:35 GMT -5
This happened to me too when i decided not to do a bunch of stuff for my 13 year old dog that had a very aggressive malignant tumor. I boarded the dogs and during a drop off exam from the vet techs I got a call saying we feel a mass can we xray it will be 200 bucks. After the xray they call back and say there is a 15cm tumor and it is so large we can't see where all it is impacting can we ultrasound it will be 250? They call back after ultrasound same vet as before, but not the one that did the ultrasound and say we still can't see what we need to can we do exploratory surgery? If it is just a liver tumor we can remove and he will live the rest of his life normally. Keep in mind he's 13 and recovery is 2 months minimum. But if it has spread we might need to put him down on the table or refer to a specialist or maybe do chemo. When I said what is the prognosis they admitted it was likely an aggressive malignant tumor because of the size and how fast it grew (he'd had his checkup 2 months earlier with no sign of a problem) that it likely was not good. So I said I don't want to treat. The vet said well we will do our best to keep him comfortable and hopefully he makes it until you get back. I asked how long does he have and she said most people take the dog home to say goodbye and then put them down within days. When I picked the dog up from boarding the vet that did the ultrasound told me that he could see the tumor was on the spleen and liver (the vet I'd been talking to outright LIED about that) and he said take him home and if you seen that he is not eating or can't get up bring him back. Vet said they had no idea how big the tumor would keep getting or how long. My dog lasted another 2 months before I decided to take him back. He'd gone from eating 4 cans of dog food a day to about .75 of one and had regular moments where he didn't want to go for walks and had stopped playing with his toys the week before. It was tough on me, but I am glad I got those extra few months. I am still angry about feeling like that first vet was just out to make as much money as she could and might have convinced me to put down my dog when he wasn't in pain and had weeks of good life left. I mean I get that they should present all the options, but she withheld information and tried to guilt me. I will never go back to that place again. I don't know that vets are out to make money. I just think they are trained to treat their patients the way doctors are trained to treat human patients. In other words, they will suggest extreme measures regardless of cost. After all, these are our "fur babies" and "members of our family." This is a shift, I think, from how we used to think about pets. I love Abby with all my heart, but I do try to remember that she is a dog . . . at least every once in awhile. Something similar happened to me. My dog was in for her annual dental and they felt a mass in her abdomen. While she was still under anesthesia (and with my permission) they took x-rays. They saw a large mass, "probably splenic, probably malignant and aggressive" and suggested I take her to their sister clinic for an ultrasound. I told the vet that I would not subject a 12-year-old dog to treatment for that kind of diagnosis so an ultrasound wouldn't be happening. He completely understood, and said to take her home, love her, and keep an eye on her quality of life. And if it got to a point where she was in pain or lost her appetite, I would know it was time. The dog lived for two more years. Considering the dog was getting a $175 injection from that vet every 25 days, they made a lot more money off her than they would have made treating her tumor. The vet's explanation was that the tumor must have stabilized and didn't interfere with her quality of life (i.e., she was living with a large, non-growing tumor in her abdomen). I wonder if they misread the x-rays. He showed them to me, and what he pointed out looked like a tumor, but my experience reading x-rays is nil. I think it is in their training to try to save the animal, not to maximize their income. They are probably professionally obligated to try to save the animal if possible, and not euthanize simply because the owner can't afford the recommended treatment. Their human clients run the gamut from wanting to do every treatment at all costs to owners who want to euthanize because the dog peed on the carpet and chewed the kids' toys. I understand, too, why vets will perform surgery or provide expensive treatment if the owner relinquishes the animal and it's adoptable. You fix the immediate medical issue for the owner for free this time, and what happens if the owner keeps the animal and the next pricey medical need arises? My son has a Lab, and she needed the ACL surgery. He had it done, and a few years later they had to do it on the other leg. Both times, the vet (same one as mine) encouraged them to try conservative measures first. The bond between humans and their animals is an amazing and lovely thing.
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Post by Ava on Oct 5, 2019 12:21:53 GMT -5
I was working part-time, minimum wage jobs (several jobs to try to cobble together a reasonable income) when I adopted my cat.
This happened 15 years ago. In other words, I shouldn't have adopted her.
I had enough to buy her food, and I was computer savvy enough to look up low cost vet clinics for her.
There was a Petco store nearby with a low cost clinic inside, and there was a spay and neuter bus that was there every third Saturday. So I made an appointment for her at the low cost clinic at Petco, had all her shots done, and had her fixed at the bus. I knew once she had all her shots and was fixed, she had a really good shot to make it to adult.
Dogs and cats could attend the low cost clinic until they turned seven years old. That's what I did, take her there for shots and check ups until that age. By the time she became a senior cat I made enough income to take her to a regular vet.
Looking back, it was irresponsible to take her on. I barely had enough for me. I didn't consider any of that. I didn't think. She was born on a backyard and the people who lived there were about to get rid of her somehow. They were going to bring her to a shelter, or throw her somewhere far, etc. So I took her in.
She made a big difference in my life. I was very, very lucky that she's been incredibly healthy all her life. I always took her for shots and check ups, and fed her the best food I could afford. I'm sure that played a part in her good health.
Now that's she's an old cat I always keep my eyes open for any changes in feeding habits, how she moves, if I can notice any pain, etc. It would be tough but I think when the moment comes I'll try to keep her pain-free and comfortable for as long as possible, but no extraordinary measures to prolong her life. She's already had a long, good life and she's nowhere nearly done yet. I see her easily living another 3 to 5 years, maybe more.
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Post by mcsangel2 on Oct 7, 2019 19:09:51 GMT -5
Anyone know why Rockhounder is no longer a member of the boards? I'm guessing it's because of how this thread went. A shame if you ask me, the only person who should be ashamed of themselves is the vet who refused to put Shasta's dog down humanely when she asked. If you are reading this Shasta, I'm very sorry about your dog. I hope you are able to take care of things one way or another.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 7, 2019 19:10:58 GMT -5
Anyone know why Rockhounder is no longer a member of the boards? I'm guessing it's because of how this thread went. A shame if you ask me, the only person who should be ashamed of themselves is the vet who refused to put Shasta's dog down humanely when she asked. Understandable.
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Post by sesfw on Oct 8, 2019 20:50:47 GMT -5
(((((((((((((( rock ))))))))))) it's tough to lose a furbaby. Hope things work out to the best.
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Post by snapdragon on Oct 9, 2019 11:50:23 GMT -5
I am really annoyed about how the vet treated you Shasta. I am so sorry this has just added another rock to the pile that you have had to deal with for the last several years. Hoping no matter what happens with your dog things get easier. I know how difficult and emotional it is when a pet has a expensive problem occur. Making someone feel crappy because they are unable to treat the animal is just wrong on so many levels.
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Post by souldoubt on Oct 9, 2019 13:34:07 GMT -5
My issue is the people who have pets they don't take care of and they get more or replace pets as they pass. Someone I know had a cat who took to living in agony under their car for a few days. She knew the cat was in pain but did nothing about it and ultimately rationalized it by saying she just thought he ate something that didn't agree with him. This was after she asked multiple people what to do, they told her to take him to a vet/shelter and had those people known she would do nothing they would have stepped up. Turns out he had a urinary blockage and even though they didn't have the money for an expensive surgery had she taken him to a vet or shelter they could have helped him or at least euthanized him rather than let him suffer.
Within a few months she was online talking about how she just got two new puppies. The puppies have free reign of the house and yard while they sleep indoors at night. She has another dog who is a big dog that's extremely nice but he has some issues, he gets relegated to a small spot in the backyard and it's akin to the Simpson's Halloween episode where they keep Bart's twin locked up in the attic and feed him a bucket of fish heads. Shortly after getting the puppies one of them had issues and this person who criticizes the hell out of some of her family for the help they get was calling her mom whining about how the dog needed a, b and c and they couldn't afford it because she knew her mom wouldn't let an animal suffer. Not trying to hijack the thread as I hope shasta comes back because I know she is someone who will do what she can for her pets. Some people on the other hand shouldn't be allowed to own pets.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 17:56:36 GMT -5
I had a thread go kind of sideways a few years ago when I asked about some stray cats in my yard. It was winter and I was willing to feed them if I needed to, but I quickly got resounding “NO’s” on that. Uh..... okay. But some people had issues with my not immediately agreeing to try to catch the cats and take them somewhere to get “fixed” or whatever. I remember one former poster in particular being the most outraged and acting like I was not a decent human being. As if it was my fault stray cats were running around when the only cat I’ve ever owned died over 40 years ago.
Rockhounder’s dilemma is a real one. It can be hard to spend thousands on a pet, especially if your financial situation is such that you’d have to pull the money out your ass. I’ve spent more than $1k each to treat more than 1 of my dogs, and I’ve also had dogs put to sleep for reasons I guess I better not share here.
It would be kinder to not bash Shasta for not having the money to go all out for her dog, unless you’re willing to put your money where your mouth is. In that case, fuss away...... as you pay the vet bill.
The first time I had a dog put to sleep in my adulthood, the receptionist at the vet’s office held me and cried with me. She told me “Think about it, she was going to live somewhere. You gave her a good life and too good care of her, she might not have had that somewhere else. I know you did, because you’ve been bringing her to us for years. It’s tough to let her go now, but take comfort in knowing you gave her a good life”. That was over 15 years ago and even though I still cried for days, I valued and obviously still remember what she said. That wasn’t the last dog I’ve had put to sleep. I always cry like a baby for days, it’s always been a very painful decision. It’s never easy. And FWIW, it costs money too.
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Post by steph08 on Oct 9, 2019 19:00:54 GMT -5
I'm of two minds about this issue. I think that if you have pets, you have to have the money to take care of them. But I also think that you should be able to decide what your limit is and be able to make a decision that your vet accepts (whether it's the one they want you to pick or not).
One of our boxers was diagnosed with lymphoma when he was 6. It took me a month to get the vet to diagnose it - at first we thought it was a bladder infection because he kept drinking a ton of water. Antibiotics didn't help. I took him back and they assigned me a different vet - she told me it was doggy Alzheimer's. He was 6. I complained about her and demanded a different vet to see me on Saturday morning. I didn't care how long I had to wait. Finally, the next vet (it's a practice and that stupid vet was gone shortly after I complained) ran bloodwork which showed elevated calcium levels and enlarged lymph nodes and diagnosed him with lymphoma. Even though he was only 6, we opted not to do chemo. Not only because of the cost (probably $5k) but because the vet explained that it isn't a cure like it is for people. It would put him in remission, but he would have to keep going back to chemo when remission ended - and each time he came out of remission, the chance was less that he would be "cured" again. Instead, the vet accepted our decision and gave him a chemo pill and steroid combo that cost me maybe $50/month. And it put him in remission and gave us an extra six months where he was happy and healthy.
Our beagle had her eye removed last year. The vet did say that we could go to a dog ophthalmologist, but cautioned that because she had already gone blind in that eye, it didn't make a lot of sense and that it would cost a lot of money (probably $1500). She recommended surgery to remove it (turns out there was a glaucoma-like growth behind it, causing it to swell and which caused the blindness). We did that - without asking what the cost was. Unlike our boxer, she was perfectly healthy except for the eye and likely has many years ahead of her, even though she was 7.5 at the time. I thought it would cost a lot more than it did (it cost me around $100, even with an overnight stay because the anesthesia affected her a little badly). So far, so good.
It depends on the dog and on what it needs. Our other boxer is 11 now, and no, I would not do ACL surgery on him if he happened to tear his. I would do crate rest and pain meds and hoped they worked. Boxers are notoriously short-lived (at least mine are!), and I feel lucky that we got 11 years with him.
Sorry for the book. I'm just feeling sad because our boxer has gone downhill since his 11th birthday last month - he has been dragging his one foot more and today fell over while barking at the UPS guy (I think his back legs gave out on the hardwood floor and he couldn't get up). I'm worried that age is catching up with him, and that I may have to make that tough decision sooner than I thought.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 9, 2019 19:09:51 GMT -5
I'm sorry for your troubles, Shasta. That's one big reason I don't want any pets right now. I actually have $1000 to spend on an animal, but I have 2 kids that need a college education in the future. It's the priorities. Somehow, they got whacked out of shape regarding animals with some people. People first.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 19:51:42 GMT -5
The last dog I had put to sleep was the most lovable one I’ve ever owned. I took her to the vet thinking they’d tell me what was wrong and how much it would cost, fix her up, and send us on our way. I even took my children with me. Her kidneys were failing. I could spend at least $2k trying to treat it, but he was honest and said the odds were against us. As he’s telling me this, she’s leaned up against my leg looking at me with adoration while I rub her head. My kids treated this 110lb Bullmastiff like a baby, especially DD, who was a teen at the time. We’d raised her from a puppy, she was only 6yo, and now everybody’s looking at me. I paid $800 or $850 to buy her, then almost immediately had to spend over $1k treating a condition she had. Spent a few hundred trying to find out why she was limping a few months later, only to learn it was just “growing pains”. She did indeed stop limping after I’d spent my money lol. Everything I ever did, from shots to heart worm medicine to boarding her, was more money than I’d ever spent on a dog, because of her size. I never regretted any of the costs. To know her was to love her. Honestly, if the vet had been more optimistic, I would probably have thrown every penny I could scrape up at it, trying to fix it. And I didn’t have a lot of pennies at the time. But realistically, Bullmastiffs don’t tend to have long lifespans, the odds weren’t in our favor, and since my circumstances had changed I didn’t really have the money anyway. So yeah, that was a fun day.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 13, 2019 18:46:56 GMT -5
It already happened. Shasta deleted her account. we should really be ashamed of ourselves... Some most certainly should! There's nobody here with holes in their hands. We've all got difficulties with which we try to deal in the best way we know how. What's right and possible for one may not be right and possible for another. That doesn't give anybody the right to start throwing darts. For those who think they've got the only right answer for every situation, think twice before you post insults or say hurtful things. There's been quite enough of that!
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sesfw
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Post by sesfw on Oct 13, 2019 21:01:38 GMT -5
So yeah, that was a fun day.
Pink, I'm so sorry ........ Furbabies are family ..... and dang, it hurts to lose them.
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Gardening Grandma
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 13, 2019 21:18:07 GMT -5
So yeah, that was a fun day.Pink, I'm so sorry ........ Furbabies are family ..... and dang, it hurts to lose them. It’s been three years since we had ours put to sleep. We have photos of her around the house and I still tear up missing her.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 17:03:44 GMT -5
So yeah, that was a fun day.Pink, I'm so sorry ........ Furbabies are family ..... and dang, it hurts to lose them. Thank you. It was several years ago, but I do still miss her. My Mom doesn’t dislike dogs, but she is definitely NOT a dog lover. And she let me have dogs without complaining about the work and vet bills that came with them. She actually got me my first one, when I was in 4th grade. When he died, she was upset because I was so upset. She told me I wasn’t getting another one because it’s too hard losing them, they become a member of the family. A few months later, she took me to the animal shelter, to get me another fur baby.
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Artemis Windsong
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Oct 14, 2019 19:26:31 GMT -5
There is no way this group could have helped in this situation. She needed to find a different vet.
Rockhounder is emotionally tapped out. I feel bad for her. So sad.
I wish her my best.
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Miss Tequila
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 15, 2019 16:17:38 GMT -5
Anyone know why Rockhounder is no longer a member of the boards? I'm guessing it's because of how this thread went. A shame if you ask me, the only person who should be ashamed of themselves is the vet who refused to put Shasta's dog down humanely when she asked. If you are reading this Shasta, I'm very sorry about your dog. I hope you are able to take care of things one way or another. But wouldn't a vet have a moral obligation not to kill an otherwise healthy animal? Admittedly, I am not up on medical standards of vets. But I can't euthanize my child just because I can't afford their medical bills. I'm certainly not stepping in the middle of the arguing, but I wouldn't think a vet could just euthanize an animal without cause. But I could be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 16:21:30 GMT -5
I'm guessing it's because of how this thread went. A shame if you ask me, the only person who should be ashamed of themselves is the vet who refused to put Shasta's dog down humanely when she asked. If you are reading this Shasta, I'm very sorry about your dog. I hope you are able to take care of things one way or another. But wouldn't a vet have a moral obligation not to kill an otherwise healthy animal? Admittedly, I am not up on medical standards of vets. But I can't euthanize my child just because I can't afford their medical bills. I'm certainly not stepping in the middle of the arguing, but I wouldn't think a vet could just euthanize an animal without cause. But I could be wrong. They euthanize thousands of healthy animals every single day just because there are no homes for them all.
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