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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 31, 2019 16:38:08 GMT -5
Ten teenagers were injured Friday night during a shooting at a high school football game in Mobile, Alabama, according to local police. According to Mobile Police Chief Lawrence L. Battiste IV, two people were detained for questioning. Saturday morning, police arrested Deangelo Parnell, 17, and charged him with nine counts of attempted murder, according to local news outlet WKRG. Local news outlet WPMI reported that all victims were listed in police reports as injured. According to the Associated Press, at least six of the injured had been shot, and one appears to have had a seizure after the shooting began. Five victims are in critical condition, but their injuries are not life-threatening, according to Steven Millhouse, a spokesperson for the Mobile Fire-Rescue Department. The victims range in age from 15 to 18, according to Battiste. www.vox.com/2019/8/31/20841994/high-school-football-game-shooting-mobile-alabama-ladd-peebles-stadiumThoughts and prayers. That should fix it.
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Post by laterbloomer on Aug 31, 2019 16:49:10 GMT -5
I obviously don't know what critucal condition means. I thought the exact definition of critical condition was to be in danger of dying.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 31, 2019 17:02:28 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 31, 2019 17:04:37 GMT -5
I obviously don't know what critucal condition means. I thought the exact definition of critical condition was to be in danger of dying. if you go to the article, it says "WERE" in critical condition, not ARE.
only three remain in the hospital at this time. one can assume from this (reading between the lines) that they are "serious, but stable". though I admit it is contradictory.
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Post by steff on Aug 31, 2019 17:34:10 GMT -5
Active shooter(s) situation in Midland/Odessa Texas. 2 suspects randomly shooting down the highway/roads. 2 vehicles are being searched for including a hijacked USPS mail truck. 1 dead, 20 wounded at this time. Reports of a Texas State trooper also shot. Some reports saying 1 suspect in custody and/or killed. Odessa & Midland are in far West Texas. NOT a border town/city.
Currently situation is still active. Coverage on tv.
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Post by steff on Aug 31, 2019 17:49:07 GMT -5
1 shooter confirmed dead 1 DPS officer injured (did not say shot)
1 Midland officer shot 1 victim is a 17 month old shot in the face, being air lifted to Lubbock 20 wounded
Midland police say no active shooter currently
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 31, 2019 17:50:40 GMT -5
1 shooter confirmed dead 1 DPS officer injured (did not say shot)
1 Midland officer shot 1 victim is a 17 month old shot in the face, being air lifted to Lubbock 20 wounded
Midland police say no active shooter currently
Charming. Clearly, the answer to these mass shootings is more guns.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 31, 2019 17:53:16 GMT -5
Your country is So! Fucked! Up!
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Post by steff on Aug 31, 2019 18:03:58 GMT -5
5 dead, 21 injured suspect is a white male in his 30's, police know his identity. No confirmations of a 2nd shooter at this time. Suspect is dead. Scene was hard to contain because it was constantly moving as suspect was shooting while driving. 2 vehicles were both the suspect, which is why they cannot confirm a 2nd suspect & are treating it as a no longer active situation. All started with a DPS traffic stop.
Odessa press conference currently happening.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2019 18:20:06 GMT -5
Thoughts and prayers.
Let's have some fun and play 'Where Will Be The Next Mass Shooting': post the state where it will occur. The one who correctly guesses the state will get bragging rights for the next 12 months.
I'll go first: Mississippi.
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Post by steff on Aug 31, 2019 18:25:46 GMT -5
Thoughts and prayers. Let's have some fun and play 'Where Will Be The Next Mass Shooting': post the state where it will occur. The one who correctly guesses the state will get bragging rights for the next 12 months. I'll go first: Mississippi. I'm sticking with Texas. More gun owners & very very very lax open carry laws.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2019 18:28:10 GMT -5
Tennesseer - Mississippi
steff - Texas
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 31, 2019 18:29:11 GMT -5
Your idiot pro-lifers are running around, trying to shut down Planned Parenthood clinics, but dead schoolchildren and 17 month old babies being shot in the face? No Problem! People have the right to own guns. You can't make this shit up.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 31, 2019 18:45:31 GMT -5
Tennesseer - Mississippi steff - Texas New Mexico
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Post by steff on Aug 31, 2019 18:51:13 GMT -5
Your idiot pro-lifers are running around, trying to shut down Planned Parenthood clinics, but dead schoolchildren and 17 month old babies being shot in the face? No Problem! People have the right to own guns. You can't make this shit up. They only care from womb to delivery room. After that kids can literally die for all they care. As long as it doesn't involve their 2nd amendment & tax dollars, they don't care. No healthcare, don't care. No food, don't care. No housing, don't care. Killed at school, don't care. Dying of cancer, don't care. Not born yet, OMG SAVE THAT CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Aug 31, 2019 18:54:28 GMT -5
Texas
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2019 19:15:25 GMT -5
Tennesseer - Mississippi
steff - Texas
weltschmerz - New Mexico
Gardening Grandma - Texas
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Post by Tiny on Aug 31, 2019 19:24:59 GMT -5
What definition of Mass Shooting are we using for the "pool"? 4 or more DEAD or any incident where 4 or more are injured?
If it's 4 or more DEAD... I'm gonna go with California (it's a big state with lots of people).
If it's 4 or more injured.... I'm torn between Florida and Texas. OK. I'm gonna go with Florida.
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Post by steff on Aug 31, 2019 19:42:26 GMT -5
Under U.S. federal law, the Attorney General – on a request from a state – may assist in investigating “mass killings,” rather than mass shootings. The term was originally defined as the murder of four or more people with no cooling-off period[1][5] but redefined by Congress in 2013 as being murder of three or more people.[6] In “Behind the Bloodshed”, a report by USA Today, a mass killing is defined as: any incident in which four or more were killed, including familial killings.[7] A crowdsourced data site cited by CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Economist, the BBC, etc., Mass Shooting Tracker, defines a mass shooting as any incident in which five or more people are shot, whether injured or killed.[8][9] According to the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012, signed into law in January 2013, a mass killing is defined as a killing with at least three deaths, excluding the perpetrator.[10][11] An unofficial definition of a mass shooting is an event involving the shooting (not necessarily resulting in death) of five or more people (sometimes four)[12] with no cooling-off period.[8][12][13] Crime violence research group Gun Violence Archive, whose research is used by all major American media outlets, defines mass shooting as “FOUR or more shot and/or killed in a single event [incident], at the same general time and location, not including the shooter,” differentiating between mass shooting and mass murder and not counting shooters as victims.[15] Think we're just gonna have to go with 4 or 5 DEAD to call it a mass shooting.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2019 20:01:36 GMT -5
Four or more victims dead, not including the perpetrator if killed by police/other law enforcement or by the very rare good guy with a gun.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2019 20:03:06 GMT -5
Tennesseer - Mississippi
steff - Texas
weltschmerz - New Mexico
Gardening Grandma - Texas
Ti4ny - California
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Post by kadee79 on Aug 31, 2019 20:05:21 GMT -5
Georgia.....
This is so sick & we are gun owners.
Write, call, email your Congress people...let them know what YOU want them to do....shut down the gun shows!, major background checks, smaller clips/magazines, assault weapons ban!
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2019 20:11:51 GMT -5
Tennesseer - Mississippi
steff - Texas
weltschmerz - New Mexico
Gardening Grandma - Texas
Ti4ny - California
Kadee74 - Georgia
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 31, 2019 21:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Aug 31, 2019 22:38:06 GMT -5
Georgia..... This is so sick & we are gun owners. Write, call, email your Congress people...let them know what YOU want them to do....shut down the gun shows!, major background checks, smaller clips/magazines, assault weapons ban! I quite agree (and so are we - gun owners)
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 1, 2019 8:23:30 GMT -5
We need to quit telling white men their lives will be so much better if we just get rid of gays, brown people, women.
Times and the world has changed. We need to figure out why people aren't adapting and help rather than promise a 1950s utopia that never existed outside a Norman Rockwell painting.
We're radicalizing people just like those Middle Eastern brown people we're so scared of do.
And Trump is gleefully kicking the nest because it keeps him in the limelight and his administration sees it as a point of pride to remain ignorant and tout conspiracy theories rather than listen to experts and develop real solutions.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 1, 2019 10:19:42 GMT -5
5 dead, 21 injured suspect is a white male in his 30's, police know his identity. No confirmations of a 2nd shooter at this time. Suspect is dead. Scene was hard to contain because it was constantly moving as suspect was shooting while driving. 2 vehicles were both the suspect, which is why they cannot confirm a 2nd suspect & are treating it as a no longer active situation. All started with a DPS traffic stop.
Odessa press conference currently happening.
White male in his 30’s...... what do you want to bet he is a white supremacist?
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 1, 2019 10:26:56 GMT -5
We need to quit telling white men their lives will be so much better if we just get rid of gays, brown people, women. Times and the world has changed. We need to figure out why people aren't adapting and help rather than promise a 1950s utopia that never existed outside a Norman Rockwell painting. We're radicalizing people just like those Middle Eastern brown people we're so scared of do. And Trump is gleefully kicking the nest because it keeps him in the limelight and his administration sees it as a point of pride to remain ignorant and tout conspiracy theories rather than listen to experts and develop real solutions. We need to quit telling white men their lives will be so much better if we just get rid of gays, brown people, women. Where did you come up with this??
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 1, 2019 13:26:40 GMT -5
5 dead, 21 injured suspect is a white male in his 30's, police know his identity. No confirmations of a 2nd shooter at this time. Suspect is dead. Scene was hard to contain because it was constantly moving as suspect was shooting while driving. 2 vehicles were both the suspect, which is why they cannot confirm a 2nd suspect & are treating it as a no longer active situation. All started with a DPS traffic stop.
Odessa press conference currently happening.
White male in his 30’s...... what do you want to bet he is a white supremacist? One news source said the guy was fired a day or two ago, so it might just be another case of toxic masculinity ruining the party again.
Good news = 17 month old was shot in the mouth but it didn't damage her jaw bones, just teeth, lips and tongue. She's having surgery tomorrow to remove the shrapnel and do some reconstructive work on her mouth, but they think she'll make a full recovery and she was running around her hospital room today having fun.
How fucked up is it that this little girl faces years of reconstructive surgery and massive facial scarring and we consider that a 'win' because she could have been killed.
#American carnage
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 1, 2019 13:33:17 GMT -5
One woman was driving her 2 year old grandson and her DH on the freeway when this asshole pulled up next to them, pointed his weapon at them and grinned, then started to shoot. Woman floored the car and managed to escape. Terrifying.
I'm waiting for all the gun advocates to explain to me why is was that, in a state like Texas where so many people own weapons, the "good guy with a gun" wasn't able to take out this asshole as he drove along the freeway firing at random cars for two damn hours. Is it possible the 'good guy with a gun' theory is pure bullshit? (This is a rhetorical question - I already posted a study in a different 'mass shooting' thread (we have so many of them, sadly) where it was proven that shooters are more often jumped and overpowered by other people rather than getting shot). Why wasn't he killed until he finally got surrounded by cops at a field near a movie theater?
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