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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 17, 2019 14:41:15 GMT -5
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 17, 2019 20:22:54 GMT -5
Actually, it was the part where said if she was elected, she would take the guns. But that was only one brick in the wall. but it was the one that topped that wall.
Doesn't seem to bother you that President Trump has said the same thing? BTW---did Mexico pay for those bricks in the wall? Pink Floyd.
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Post by Opti on Aug 18, 2019 9:21:53 GMT -5
Who are vigilantes. You don't know a thing about it do you Tenn. You read some biased report from the far left law center, then act like you know everything, when you don't!
Best not to assume where anyone gets their info. I went to the Oathkeepers website which is obviously partisan given the articles posted. One is linked from Breitbart and is full of assumptions and no legit analysis.
www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/07/17/robert-epstein-big-tech-will-go-all-out-with-election-meddling-in-2020/
First off, its important to know who the self reported votes came from and whether they even reported the parties and candidates voted for, or whether that was just assumed.
Second, most "Go vote" reminders can only encourage those who are already registered to vote.
Third, and very important, one would need proof that a certain voting demographic was targeted AND that they voted according to assumptions. The first should be able to be found out. the latter only if those targeted report back and report back accurately. Highly unlikely.
Lastly, how do you separate out the influence of all the non partisan get out the vote messages from one from any social media? Late night show hosts and many political hosts will make these comments right before a Presidential election. As will many of their guests. And there are also the local political organizations that make the calls to registered voters before an election urging them to vote and hoping to find out if they vote their way.
I find it irresponsible for this prof to toss out numbers without any proof or analysis to back them up. 360,000 in 2012 to magically 450,000 in 2016. And how does the prof know where these people voted. Additional votes in states already won by a party are only useful from a margin perspective, not a generate a win perspective. So, yet another puff piece designed to scare with no actual facts and evidence to back it up that a reader may check on.
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Post by Opti on Aug 18, 2019 9:32:12 GMT -5
Also, every election including Presidential ones, those who go out to vote or not are swayed by many factors. Many intend to vote, but in the end do not due to various factors including the weather, a change in work schedule or caregiver duties.
The professor has a history with Google, angry about security warnings on links to his website in 2012 I think. I think he's FOS with his numbers and perhaps is being paid by some conservative group to put them out there. oathkeepers.org/2019/07/big-tech-will-go-all-out-election-meddling-in-2020/
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 18, 2019 11:40:33 GMT -5
Also, every election including Presidential ones, those who go out to vote or not are swayed by many factors. Many intend to vote, but in the end do not due to various factors including the weather, a change in work schedule or caregiver duties.
The professor has a history with Google, angry about security warnings on links to his website in 2012 I think. I think he's FOS with his numbers and perhaps is being paid by some conservative group to put them out there. oathkeepers.org/2019/07/big-tech-will-go-all-out-election-meddling-in-2020/
this is absolutely true. the election in 2016 was so close that we can discuss whether WEATHER was a factor. little things matter in elections. that is why NOBODY can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY what will happen.
this is why anyone who is CERTAIN Trump will lose is trolling. ditto for anyone who is CERTAIN Trump will win.
let's not mince words, mmmkay?
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 19, 2019 12:33:06 GMT -5
Also, every election including Presidential ones, those who go out to vote or not are swayed by many factors. Many intend to vote, but in the end do not due to various factors including the weather, a change in work schedule or caregiver duties.
The professor has a history with Google, angry about security warnings on links to his website in 2012 I think. I think he's FOS with his numbers and perhaps is being paid by some conservative group to put them out there. oathkeepers.org/2019/07/big-tech-will-go-all-out-election-meddling-in-2020/
this is absolutely true. the election in 2016 was so close that we can discuss whether WEATHER was a factor. little things matter in elections. that is why NOBODY can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY what will happen.
this is why anyone who is CERTAIN Trump will lose is trolling. ditto for anyone who is CERTAIN Trump will win.
let's not mince words, mmmkay?
No kidding! I'm continually entertained by the sheer number of soothsayers we have trotting about the internet with their wee paws tapping out the future.
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