countrygirl2
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 7, 2016 15:45:05 GMT -5
Posts: 16,893
|
Post by countrygirl2 on Aug 6, 2019 19:56:48 GMT -5
yeah, as some people said to me today, its because god has been taken out of the country. And trump is going to put god back? That phony piece of whatever is the countries way to god, what in the world is wrong with these people? I think they have lost their collective minds.
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Aug 6, 2019 19:58:42 GMT -5
Well Canada has cross dressing and separation of church and state.
But they don’t have near daily domestic terrorist attacks (I refuse to sanitize the term by saying “mass shooting”
|
|
djAdvocate
Member Emeritus
only posting when the mood strikes me.
Joined: Jun 21, 2011 12:33:54 GMT -5
Posts: 75,086
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"","color":"000307"}
|
Post by djAdvocate on Aug 6, 2019 20:01:08 GMT -5
they should stop blaming external factors like God.
we have too much in common in terms of laws, demographics, etc with places that have far lower gun violence. we need to have the strength of self examination.
it is probably not mental health in the classic sense. people love to dismiss the problem as crazy, but it just keeps growing (even though mental health is fairly stable in the US).
it is sociological, imo. there is no other logical explanation. if we want to start diving down, I think we can find it. but we have to be willing to look at ourselves and stop blaming others, and we suck at it.
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Aug 6, 2019 21:51:44 GMT -5
If it were true that when belief in God weakens, societal well-being diminishes, then we should see abundant evidence for this. But we don’t. In fact, we find just the opposite: Those societies today that are the most religious — where faith in God is strong and religious participation is high — tend to have the highest violent crime rates, while those societies in which faith and church attendance are the weakest — the most secular societies — tend to have the lowest. www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1101-zuckerman-violence-secularism-20151101-story.html
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Aug 6, 2019 23:50:40 GMT -5
|
|
thyme4change
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 26, 2010 13:54:08 GMT -5
Posts: 40,393
|
Post by thyme4change on Aug 7, 2019 15:07:30 GMT -5
If it were true that when belief in God weakens, societal well-being diminishes, then we should see abundant evidence for this. But we don’t. In fact, we find just the opposite: Those societies today that are the most religious — where faith in God is strong and religious participation is high — tend to have the highest violent crime rates, while those societies in which faith and church attendance are the weakest — the most secular societies — tend to have the lowest. www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1101-zuckerman-violence-secularism-20151101-story.htmlWhich one is the cause, which one is the effect?
|
|