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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 9, 2019 17:15:46 GMT -5
ALL political violence is on the left- except for radical islamic terror.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 9, 2019 17:31:01 GMT -5
ALL political violence is on the left- except for radical islamic terror. As you so quaintly put it......horseshit!
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Post by NastyWoman on Aug 9, 2019 17:55:15 GMT -5
Is this more outrageous than the white extremist killing people just because they are latino?
For the record: I find both disgusting (the killings and this type of poster). But the actual killings are mostly commited by the latter group
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Post by dondub on Aug 9, 2019 19:08:53 GMT -5
ALL political violence is on the left- except for radical islamic terror. Horseshit, of course. Starting to think this poster IS a White supremecist with smokescreens like that.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 9, 2019 22:16:04 GMT -5
It's not appropriate because guns don't shoot people. It's just another tool. Democrats are politicizing tragedy. You might want to check how many automatic weapons are used in mass killings. You might want to check out how many mass murderers have used knives, bats, ninja kicks or slingshots to murder more than 3 people at a time.
And please explain to me what occupation, besides soldiers and drug lords, have an occupational need for a tool like a military assault style weapon? Can something still be referred to as a tool if almost no one on the plant has a legitimate need for one? Isn't it just a toy at that point?
Me, but the AR15,, is not a military weapon, It may look similar, But, the Military weapon, allows, Automatic machine gun type of firing,, AR 15 does not allow that function. Will your car exceed the posted speed limit? Why would possible need a car that can exceed the speed limit? The same applies to guns and mags.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 9, 2019 22:20:56 GMT -5
Is this more outrageous than the white extremist killing people just because they are latino?
For the record: I find both disgusting (the killings and this type of poster). But the actual killings are mostly commited by the latter group
Latino's?
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 9, 2019 23:53:04 GMT -5
Is this more outrageous than the white extremist killing people just because they are latino?
For the record: I find both disgusting (the killings and this type of poster). But the actual killings are mostly commited by the latter group
Latino's? Is there a reason for an apostrophe after the word Latino? Did you mean 'Latinos'? And if you did, that would be incorrect too. Latino is correct at the end of Nasty Woman's sentence. Let's switch the sentence around. Let's change 'white' to 'latino' and 'latino' to 'whites' (as you wanted to put an 's' at the end of Latino): 'Is this more outrageous than the Latino extremist killing people just because they are whites?" Hmmmm - does that sound right? 'Whites'? No it does not. Correct word would be 'white'.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 10, 2019 1:56:49 GMT -5
Anybody here have any idea who Charles Whitman was? Charles Whitman shot 46 people, killing 14 of them, from a 300 foot tower at the University of Texas using a bolt action rifle that held three rounds in the magazine. We can sit here all day and talk about the weapons- and that's what most people would rather do because it's easier than talking about the real threat- which is human nature, the imperfections of the human mind, and the volatility of human emotions- and the fact that out of more than 300 million people, a few are going to crack. Some of them will go on a two-hour long killing spree with a knife- as happened this week in L.A.- some will drive vehicles into pedestrians, some will load a Ryder Truck with diesel fuel and fertilizer, some will hijack aircraft and fly them into buildings, and some will pick up a gun and do their evil that way. Believe me, we here are (mostly) all well aware of the imperfections of the human mind. We have confirmation forced on us nearly every day.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 12, 2019 20:05:08 GMT -5
Anybody here have any idea who Charles Whitman was? Charles Whitman shot 46 people, killing 14 of them, from a 300 foot tower at the University of Texas using a bolt action rifle that held three rounds in the magazine. We can sit here all day and talk about the weapons- and that's what most people would rather do because it's easier than talking about the real threat- which is human nature, the imperfections of the human mind, and the volatility of human emotions- and the fact that out of more than 300 million people, a few are going to crack. Some of them will go on a two-hour long killing spree with a knife- as happened this week in L.A.- some will drive vehicles into pedestrians, some will load a Ryder Truck with diesel fuel and fertilizer, some will hijack aircraft and fly them into buildings, and some will pick up a gun and do their evil that way. Believe me, we here are (mostly) all well aware of the imperfections of the human mind. We have confirmation forced on us nearly every day. Texas Tower Killer. I will take my chances with a bolt action rifle, thanks.
so, can we go back to that? because between 1966 and 1996 you could count the number of killings of this kind on one hand. now, you barely can go a week.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 13, 2019 15:19:15 GMT -5
ALL political violence is on the left- except for radical islamic terror. That is utter garbage and you're well aware it's utter garbage.
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Post by dezii on Aug 13, 2019 15:29:49 GMT -5
ALL political violence is on the left- except for radical islamic terror. That is utter garbage and you're well aware it's utter garbage. Personally I don't believe they care that they are posting " utter garbage"...and are fully aware of that...just saying.
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Post by dezii on Aug 13, 2019 15:35:42 GMT -5
Believe me, we here are (mostly) all well aware of the imperfections of the human mind. We have confirmation forced on us nearly every day. Texas Tower Killer. I will take my chances with a bolt action rifle, thanks.
so, can we go back to that? because between 1966 and 1996 you could count the number of killings of this kind on one hand. now, you barely can go a week.
He was also many hundreds of feet in the air above the ground, no other tall buildings around...able to hide behind the towers walls...I believe civiliens showed up with their own long rifles and scopes to keep him occupied while a few officers of the law..[sheriffs ?] worked them selves up to the floor he was on and took him down... I do remember that and yes, it was not a common occurrence at the time.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 13, 2019 15:53:50 GMT -5
ALL political violence is on the left- except for radical islamic terror. That is utter garbage and you're well aware it's utter garbage. it is pretty much exactly the opposite. but at least he realizes that radical Islam is a rightist movement.
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Post by dezii on Aug 13, 2019 15:56:01 GMT -5
Regarding the second amendment...I always, and still do today, believe it's purpose was to have a civilien armed force....affordable for a new basically broke country...to be able to be called upon to defend if necessary the States /country if needed against attacks...till regular army units formed and trained..and available..
When at the time, military actions where forces useing for the most part, cannon...small caliber in the field and single shot muskets...effect no longer then a 100 yards , used in a mass group firing followed up, and only with trained regular forces...see British, Hessian, French...the bayonet at close quarters.
Granted small quantities of more accurate rifled weapons ...used for skirmishing...possible sniping ..but slow to load thus only produced in small quantities and issued to small, in relation to large, units of soldiers. [See British rangers..]
I understand some feel the second amendment was there to allow civiliens to be able to forcibly use force to change governments if said elected government became abusive ..Since we are a nation of laws, Christian, Judea and checks and balances...I don't believe founding fathers had that in mind..
To compare the weapons of 1776 ….hand weapons...one shot and except for dueling pistols...smooth bore and limited in accuracy and limited in loading...same with long weapons...Most common, the Brown Bess...single shot, inaccurate to todays numerouse single, semi and automatic weapons..accurate out to hundreds of meters...is just ludercriss ..in other words just nuts.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 14, 2019 8:13:08 GMT -5
ALL political violence is on the left- except for radical islamic terror. That is utter garbage and you're well aware it's utter garbage. There have been almost 400 hate crimes (reported- or that we know about) against Trump supporters and more than 200 hoaxes or fake hate crimes attributed to Trump supporters. www.attacksontrumpsupporters.com/?fbclid=IwAR1DAuJo0ew90ZyuP-c4j7-kvWRafVlhvHm3Sg-w2xqBFhp6HDyVJ39wbnYThere are ZERO actual verified incidents of violent and/or property crimes perpetrated by Trump supporters against Democrats or leftists. None. And before you post one- do two things: 1. Make sure it's not on the hoax list; and 2. Make sure it's an actual Trump supporter and not just some nutter.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 14, 2019 8:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 14, 2019 8:15:43 GMT -5
Regarding the second amendment...I always, and still do today, believe it's purpose was to have a civilien armed force....affordable for a new basically broke country...to be able to be called upon to defend if necessary the States /country if needed against attacks...till regular army units formed and trained..and available.. When at the time, military actions where forces useing for the most part, cannon...small caliber in the field and single shot muskets...effect no longer then a 100 yards , used in a mass group firing followed up, and only with trained regular forces...see British, Hessian, French...the bayonet at close quarters. Granted small quantities of more accurate rifled weapons ...used for skirmishing...possible sniping ..but slow to load thus only produced in small quantities and issued to small, in relation to large, units of soldiers. [See British rangers..] I understand some feel the second amendment was there to allow civiliens to be able to forcibly use force to change governments if said elected government became abusive ..Since we are a nation of laws, Christian, Judea and checks and balances...I don't believe founding fathers had that in mind.. To compare the weapons of 1776 ….hand weapons...one shot and except for dueling pistols...smooth bore and limited in accuracy and limited in loading...same with long weapons...Most common, the Brown Bess...single shot, inaccurate to todays numerouse single, semi and automatic weapons..accurate out to hundreds of meters...is just ludercriss ..in other words just nuts. I guess we don't have a first amendment anymore because the internet is more powerful than a printing press? Come the fuck on.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 14, 2019 8:45:30 GMT -5
You're quoting from www.attacksontrumpsupporters.com, which is rated 'questionable source' from Mediafactcheck.com, which means it exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing.
You glom on to these far right websites and blogs and quote them as though they were Biblical text. Of course we're not going to believe you, when you quote such biased sources. Just because a website parrots back the exact same beliefs that you have, it does not make them a 'good' source.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 14, 2019 9:05:43 GMT -5
Yesterday, Trump was talking about a posting on a far right blog that was promoting the 'The Clintons arranged for Epstein to be killed' conspiracy theory.
Trump's reason that we should believe the post - the guy who made it had a bunch of followers, and he was a big Trump fan.
There's a lot of people who think the earth if flat, or that the earth is just 6000 years old, or that comtrails are chemical sprays our government is using to try to alter weather. Because a lot of people believe something that promotes their version of reality are the two worst reasons you should believe a web posting, but Trump does that all.the.time. Trump and a lot of other people who prefer fiction over fact.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2019 10:03:18 GMT -5
You're quoting from www.attacksontrumpsupporters.com, which is rated 'questionable source' from Mediafactcheck.com, which means it exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing.
You glom on to these far right websites and blogs and quote them as though they were Biblical text. Of course we're not going to believe you, when you quote such biased sources. Just because a website parrots back you parrot the exact same beliefs that you some blog has have, it does not make them a 'good' source.
my own observation: Paul could easily be a bot. he pretty much copies crap from the blogs wholesale.
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Post by dezii on Aug 14, 2019 10:06:01 GMT -5
You read the federalist? Figures.
Military assault weapons were used in the Dayton and El Paso shootings. In Dayton, how many people got killed within the 21 seconds the shooter was alive? Could that total be matched with Daniel Boone's squirrel hunting rifle?
Sure, handguns are involved in a lot of mass murders - but there are some legitimate reasons people would need a handgun for their job, or to protect themselves or their homes.
You have deflected away from my question about why anyone would need a military assault style weapon. I'm talking the rapid fire guns with cannisters that can hold 100 rounds. This is because there is no legitimate reason to own one, except the old 'I want to.' There is zero reason why these guns need to be out there at all. Zero.
And now, you'll come back with some word definitions to muddy the water, so you have a nice evening.
The classifications are also listed with the military, in regards to the federalist. The military uses assault rifles that can switch to full automatic. They fire at 1,000 rounds or more per minute. They weren't used at the last two mass murders. Assault weapons are simple semi-automatics, that fire one round per trigger pull, like my deer rifle. I've already posted that style doesn't affect operation Time to run away, as the correct descriptions have been posted. To clarify from the attempt, of you posting BS. "Time to run away" Even back in the day...on my bestest day I found I was unable to run away from a bullet...Just saying.
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Post by dondub on Aug 14, 2019 10:19:30 GMT -5
That is utter garbage and you're well aware it's utter garbage. There have been almost 400 hate crimes (reported- or that we know about) against Trump supporters and more than 200 hoaxes or fake hate crimes attributed to Trump supporters. www.attacksontrumpsupporters.com/?fbclid=IwAR1DAuJo0ew90ZyuP-c4j7-kvWRafVlhvHm3Sg-w2xqBFhp6HDyVJ39wbnYThere are ZERO actual verified incidents of violent and/or property crimes perpetrated by Trump supporters against Democrats or leftists. None. And before you post one- do two things: 1. Make sure it's not on the hoax list; and 2. Make sure it's an actual Trump supporter and not just some nutter. It appears to me that poster didn’t specifically mention Trump supporters, who are, of course, nutters.😎
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 14, 2019 10:27:04 GMT -5
The classifications are also listed with the military, in regards to the federalist. The military uses assault rifles that can switch to full automatic. They fire at 1,000 rounds or more per minute. They weren't used at the last two mass murders. Assault weapons are simple semi-automatics, that fire one round per trigger pull, like my deer rifle. I've already posted that style doesn't affect operation Time to run away, as the correct descriptions have been posted. To clarify from the attempt, of you posting BS. "Time to run away" Even back in the day...on my bestest day I found I was unable to run away from a bullet...Just saying. Last night at dinner we discussed that we should be focusing on hiding techniques, not running. Not only can a guy spraying bullets easily hit people who are running, but many injuries are caused by the crowd stampeding in chaos. Experts say hide and barricade is the way to go. They also say if they show up and you have a gun, they will shoot first, not knowing if you are the bad guy with a gun, or a good guy with a gun.
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Post by swamp on Aug 14, 2019 10:49:09 GMT -5
Who is Reza Aslan? And why do I care what he says?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2019 10:51:48 GMT -5
Who is Reza Aslan? And why do I care what he says? RA has been a target of the right since he wrote a book on Jesus from a scholarly perspective.
some Christians didn't understand how a Jewish man could write a book about Jesus.
he spoke very eloquently in his defense, which also pissed them off.
in other words, he is really smart, and knows a lot about Religion.
that makes him an enemy of the right.
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Post by NastyWoman on Aug 14, 2019 11:04:53 GMT -5
Yesterday, Trump was talking about a posting on a far right blog that was promoting the 'The Clintons arranged for Epstein to be killed' conspiracy theory.
Trump's reason that we should believe the post - the guy who made it had a bunch of followers, and he was a big Trump fan.
There's a lot of people who think the earth if flat, or that the earth is just 6000 years old, or that comtrails are chemical sprays our government is using to try to alter weather. Because a lot of people believe something that promotes their version of reality are the two worst reasons you should believe a web posting, but Trump does that all.the.time. Trump and a lot of other people who prefer fiction over fact.
I have one I heard this morning and (if he became aware of it) it would send dt off a cliff regarding CA not liking him. A DJ this morning mentioned that he didn't believe Epstein was dead, because he knew so many secrets about the president, royalty and other influential people. So he claims that Epstein has been hidden by the most powerful in this country (read dt) until they are certain there is no other proof that can certain and then he will disappear. So his demand, in line with the Bin Laden situation of a few years ago, is "show me the body.
This DJ is seriously weird, but in comparison to today's Republicans he is not even all that far out of the range of what is considered "normal"
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Post by kadee79 on Aug 14, 2019 11:05:04 GMT -5
Who is Reza Aslan? And why do I care what he says? RA has been a target of the right since he wrote a book on Jesus from a scholarly perspective.
some Christians didn't understand how a Jewish man could write a book about Jesus.
he spoke very eloquently in his defense, which also pissed them off.
in other words, he is really smart, and knows a lot about Religion.
that makes him an enemy of the right.
I thought the name was familiar, but just couldn't place it. I have the book. It's very interesting. It raised cane with the religious right. It is historically correct so it doesn't jive with a lot of the Bible. Yes, the author is a religion(s) expert. I sincerely doubt he cares one way or the other about DT's supporters. He has other irons in the fires so to speak.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 14, 2019 11:43:42 GMT -5
That is utter garbage and you're well aware it's utter garbage. There have been almost 400 hate crimes (reported- or that we know about) against Trump supporters and more than 200 hoaxes or fake hate crimes attributed to Trump supporters. www.attacksontrumpsupporters.com/?fbclid=IwAR1DAuJo0ew90ZyuP-c4j7-kvWRafVlhvHm3Sg-w2xqBFhp6HDyVJ39wbnYThere are ZERO actual verified incidents of violent and/or property crimes perpetrated by Trump supporters against Democrats or leftists. None. And before you post one- do two things: 1. Make sure it's not on the hoax list; and 2. Make sure it's an actual Trump supporter and not just some nutter. When did they not become one and the same?
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 14, 2019 11:55:37 GMT -5
That is utter garbage and you're well aware it's utter garbage. There have been almost 400 hate crimes (reported- or that we know about) against Trump supporters and more than 200 hoaxes or fake hate crimes attributed to Trump supporters. www.attacksontrumpsupporters.com/?fbclid=IwAR1DAuJo0ew90ZyuP-c4j7-kvWRafVlhvHm3Sg-w2xqBFhp6HDyVJ39wbnYThere are ZERO actual verified incidents of violent and/or property crimes perpetrated by Trump supporters against Democrats or leftists. None. And before you post one- do two things: 1. Make sure it's not on the hoax list; and 2. Make sure it's an actual Trump supporter and not just some nutter. Just the other day. Police: Man charged with assault after punching anti-Trump protester outside US Bank ArenaAugust 1, 2019 CINCINNATI — A Georgetown, Kentucky man was led away from U.S. Bank Arena to chants of “Lock him up!” after hitting an anti-Trump protester Thursday night. The brief confrontation — 29-year-old Dallas Frazier climbing out of a pickup and repeatedly punching 61-year-old protester Mike Alter in the head — was recorded and quickly posted to Facebook by fellow protester Scott Fantozzi. More than 1,600 people had shared the video by 10 p.m. A judge on Friday afternoon issued a $10,000 bond for Frazier. Police: Man charged with assault after punching anti-Trump protester outside US Bank Arena
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 14, 2019 11:59:17 GMT -5
'I’ll put a bullet in her': Trump supporter charged with threatening to kill Rep. Ilhan OmarELMIRA, N.Y. – A New York man is in custody after federal authorities say he threatened to kill freshman Congresswoman Rep. Ilhan Omar. Patrick W. Carlineo, 55, of Addison, was arrested Friday morning and charged by criminal complaint with threatening to assault and murder Omar, a Democrat representing Minnesota. On March 21, a staff member in Omar's office received a phone call around 12:20 p.m., the criminal complaint states. During the call, an individual, eventually identified as Carlineo, allegedly said to the staff member, "Do you work for the Muslim Brotherhood? Why are you working for her, she's an (expletive) terrorist. I’ll put a bullet in her (expletive) skull." 'I’ll put a bullet in her': Trump supporter charged with threatening to kill Rep. Ilhan Omar
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