formerroomate99
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jul 31, 2019 16:22:36 GMT -5
Happy, the Russians have been trying to interfere with our democracy for close to 100 years. Welcome to the real world. They were going to do what they were going to do, and they certainly weren’t going to take orders from a guy that nobody expected to become President of the United States. Only a fool would think the Russians were taking orders from Trump. They have their own agenda. and only a fool would think that Trump didn't invite it.
are you OK with that?
What do you mean by invite it? Do you honestly think that Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat politician would be upset if the Russians hacked the Republican party email system and sent it over to WikiLeaks? Candidate Trump have absolutely no control whatsoever on the Russians actions and he knew it. And Muller’s two-year investigation has found that neither Trump nor any other American were working with the Russians.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 31, 2019 16:46:03 GMT -5
and only a fool would think that Trump didn't invite it.
are you OK with that?
What do you mean by invite it? Do you honestly think that Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat politician would be upset if the Russians hacked the Republican party email system and sent it over to WikiLeaks? Candidate Trump have absolutely no control whatsoever on the Russians actions and he knew it. And Muller’s two-year investigation has found that neither Trump nor any other American were working with the Russians. the same thing you would mean by invite it.
and if Hillary invited it, I would say that she should be investigated, as well.
again: ARE YOU OK WITH IT?
because if you are NOT, then it follows that the dozen or so meetings that his staff had with Russians should never have happened. and Donny Junior is an American, last I checked. he most definitely encouraged Russian interference. so did Manafort. I don't get how you can say that no Americans were not working with Russia to assist the Trump campaign, because that is clearly not true.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jul 31, 2019 17:30:43 GMT -5
What do you mean by invite it? Do you honestly think that Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat politician would be upset if the Russians hacked the Republican party email system and sent it over to WikiLeaks? Candidate Trump have absolutely no control whatsoever on the Russians actions and he knew it. And Muller’s two-year investigation has found that neither Trump nor any other American were working with the Russians. the same thing you would mean by invite it.
and if Hillary invited it, I would say that she should be investigated, as well.
again: ARE YOU OK WITH IT?
because if you are NOT, then it follows that the dozen or so meetings that his staff had with Russians should never have happened. and Donny Junior is an American, last I checked. he most definitely encouraged Russian interference. so did Manafort. I don't get how you can say that no Americans were not working with Russia to assist the Trump campaign, because that is clearly not true.
Nobody was indicted for collusion, much less convicted in a court of law. And let me remind you that the Hillary Clinton campaign paid Russians indirectly for the information that appeared in the steel dossier. She didn’t just invite Russian meddling, she hired them to do it. And while she didn’t directly release the steel dossier herself, she did manage to make damn sure it got out. Are you OK with that? Hillary Clinton collected tens of millions of dollars from the Russians in the Clinton foundation slush fund while she was serving as secretary of state. She had her email on a private server and deleted a lot of them when they were subpoenaed. That behavior only makes sense if you’re trying to cover your tracks. But because Comey said that her behavior wasn’t criminal we’re just supposed to except that it’s OK. And if we don’t we’re all crazy conspiracy theorist. Meanwhile, you’re saying that a guy who survived a two year investigation, did not receive an indictment recommendation, and did not destroy the evidence couldn’t possibly be innocent. Can you not see the double standard going on here? You sound exactly like the folks on talk radio during and after the Ken Starr investigation.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 31, 2019 18:35:35 GMT -5
the same thing you would mean by invite it.
and if Hillary invited it, I would say that she should be investigated, as well.
again: ARE YOU OK WITH IT?
because if you are NOT, then it follows that the dozen or so meetings that his staff had with Russians should never have happened. and Donny Junior is an American, last I checked. he most definitely encouraged Russian interference. so did Manafort. I don't get how you can say that no Americans were not working with Russia to assist the Trump campaign, because that is clearly not true.
Nobody was indicted for collusion, much less convicted in a court of law. there is no charge called "collusion". do you mean CONSPIRACY?
I agree. there was no conspiracy. that does not mean that nobody in the Trump campaign willingly cooperated and encouraged the Russians. it just means that there was no coordinated effort to do so.
do you mind just answering the question?\/
are you OK with members of the Trump campaign and Trump supporters aiding and abetting the Russians efforts to undermine Hillary and support Trump in 2016?
PS- I am not going to talk about Clinton. she lost. I don't care about her anymore. the Steele Dossier had no impact on the election, as far as I can tell. but you want to drag her out in front of the firing squad? be my guest. for me, this is about Trump and the sanctity of future elections. I would appreciate a response to my question about that issue.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Aug 4, 2019 8:31:58 GMT -5
Nobody was indicted for collusion, much less convicted in a court of law. there is no charge called "collusion". do you mean CONSPIRACY?
I agree. there was no conspiracy. that does not mean that nobody in the Trump campaign willingly cooperated and encouraged the Russians. it just means that there was no coordinated effort to do so.
do you mind just answering the question?\/
are you OK with members of the Trump campaign and Trump supporters aiding and abetting the Russians efforts to undermine Hillary and support Trump in 2016?
PS- I am not going to talk about Clinton. she lost. I don't care about her anymore. the Steele Dossier had no impact on the election, as far as I can tell. but you want to drag her out in front of the firing squad? be my guest. for me, this is about Trump and the sanctity of future elections. I would appreciate a response to my question about that issue.
Saying you don't care about Clinton because she lost is a good way to cover up your double standards. Had she won, you wouldn't be talking about the Russians, even though she sought them out to spread disinformation, collected millions from them while in office, and would still be on the take if she had gotten in.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 4, 2019 11:42:09 GMT -5
there is no charge called "collusion". do you mean CONSPIRACY?
I agree. there was no conspiracy. that does not mean that nobody in the Trump campaign willingly cooperated and encouraged the Russians. it just means that there was no coordinated effort to do so.
do you mind just answering the question?\/
are you OK with members of the Trump campaign and Trump supporters aiding and abetting the Russians efforts to undermine Hillary and support Trump in 2016?
PS- I am not going to talk about Clinton. she lost. I don't care about her anymore. the Steele Dossier had no impact on the election, as far as I can tell. but you want to drag her out in front of the firing squad? be my guest. for me, this is about Trump and the sanctity of future elections. I would appreciate a response to my question about that issue.
Saying you don't care about Clinton because she lost is a good way to cover up your double standards. Had she won, you wouldn't be talking about the Russians, even though she sought them out to spread disinformation, collected millions from them while in office, and would still be on the take if she had gotten in. bullshit. I didn't vote for Clinton, and I am not covering for her. I have no double standards. if she is involved, go after her, try her, convict her of treason, and hang her right out there on the whitehouse lawn. but the fact remains that she lost, and Trump won, and that is what Putin wanted.
now, can you please answer my question?
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