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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 17, 2019 19:23:52 GMT -5
Coming to a West coast city near you,,
Homeless. the filth, the trash, the drugs, the alcohol, human excrement ever where, old needles, Have caused a huge rat, rodent problem!
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 17, 2019 19:25:45 GMT -5
L.a. now, San Fransisco next then Portland, and then Seattle!
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 18, 2019 1:17:40 GMT -5
homelessness is a problem in all temperate cities in the US. it is a problem of a scale not seen since the depression. it has nothing to do with our policies, it has to do with cost of housing, and to a lesser degree, the opioid crisis.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 18, 2019 5:23:39 GMT -5
homelessness is a problem in all temperate cities in the US. it is a problem of a scale not seen since the depression. it has nothing to do with our policies, it has to do with cost of housing, and to a lesser degree, the opioid crisis. You know this is pretty much a liberal talking point. L.A. has absorbed about 200,000, maybe more, Latin Americans in the last decade and almost all live in housing. Cost of housing is way down the list of reasons forthe vast majority of homeless. Many were not current residents of these cities hosting these thousands of people before living on the streets. The homeless overwhelmingly are not homeless. They are either drug dependent or mentaly ill. Neither group cares about housing.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 18, 2019 5:32:15 GMT -5
I really get upset with Republicans saying it is DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP PROBLEM in these major cities concerning the homeless. Yeh, the politicians might allow them to live on the streets, but republicans always claim treat the drug culture and mental illnesses of the homeless. As if it is that simple. You can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink....... America no longer permits the country to house these people until they are cured of addiction or on proper meds for mental illness, and as we all know once released, do not stay on medication.......People with mental illnesses need permanent housing with staff to maintain their mental health status. This will not happen, due to so many reasons.......
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Post by resolution on Jul 18, 2019 7:57:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately it is difficult for people to access mental health treatment even if they want treatment, much less people that aren't seeking it.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 18, 2019 10:07:32 GMT -5
Unfortunately it is difficult for people to access mental health treatment even if they want treatment, much less people that aren't seeking it. Hard to get access to addiction treatment, too, especially if you don't have insurance.
I knew a lady at my church whose sister with MH issues was living with her elderly mother. The other siblings were afraid the sister was abusing her mother, verbally and physically. (The sister suffered from paranoia - she thought she was being spied on by the government and by aliens, and thought everyone around her was participating in the spying, even her mom). Sister would go to a clinic for a week or two, get on meds, get released, be ok a month or two, stop taking her meds, start self medicating with other drugs, and go back to abusing poor Mom. Sister was close to 60, and she'd been doing this her whole life.
The siblings finally got the sister taken to a MH hospital an hour away, they only held her 72 hours, then wanted to release her. (No insurance). Family refused to come pick her up, so the hospital got a state trooper to drive her back and deposit her on Mom's driveway.
The way we treat the MH and addicted sucks. Add in vets with PTSD, and it sucks even worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 12:56:52 GMT -5
homelessness is a problem in all temperate cities in the US. it is a problem of a scale not seen since the depression. it has nothing to do with our policies, it has to do with cost of housing, and to a lesser degree, the opioid crisis. You know this is pretty much a liberal talking point. L.A. has absorbed about 200,000, maybe more, Latin Americans in the last decade and almost all live in housing. Cost of housing is way down the list of reasons forthe vast majority of homeless. Many were not current residents of these cities hosting these thousands of people before living on the streets. The homeless overwhelmingly are not homeless. They are either drug dependent or mentaly ill. Neither group cares about housing. The homeless, overwhelmingly are not homeless ? If they don't care about housing, they are not homeless ?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 18, 2019 13:39:37 GMT -5
I really get upset with Republicans saying it is DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP PROBLEM in these major cities concerning the homeless. Yeh, the politicians might allow them to live on the streets, but republicans always claim treat the drug culture and mental illnesses of the homeless. As if it is that simple. You can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink....... America no longer permits the country to house these people until they are cured of addiction or on proper meds for mental illness, and as we all know once released, do not stay on medication.......People with mental illnesses need permanent housing with staff to maintain their mental health status. This will not happen, due to so many reasons....... Trump said the homeless like it that way, so there's no reason to fix anything.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 18, 2019 13:52:02 GMT -5
You know this is pretty much a liberal talking point. L.A. has absorbed about 200,000, maybe more, Latin Americans in the last decade and almost all live in housing. Cost of housing is way down the list of reasons forthe vast majority of homeless. Many were not current residents of these cities hosting these thousands of people before living on the streets. The homeless overwhelmingly are not homeless. They are either drug dependent or mentaly ill. Neither group cares about housing. The homeless, overwhelmingly are not homeless ? If they don't care about housing, they are not homeless ? When I read that I just thought like Otter:
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 22, 2019 18:59:08 GMT -5
homelessness is a problem in all temperate cities in the US. it is a problem of a scale not seen since the depression. it has nothing to do with our policies, it has to do with cost of housing, and to a lesser degree, the opioid crisis. You know this is pretty much a liberal talking point. L.A. has absorbed about 200,000, maybe more, 60k. that is the best number I have seen.
PS- I just love the dismissal of this as a "liberal talking point". not. I don't repeat talking points, VB. you should know that by now. others might repeat me, but I repeat nobody.
edit: I don't consider what I wrote to be controversial in the least. methinks thou dost protest too much.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 22, 2019 19:00:40 GMT -5
You know this is pretty much a liberal talking point. L.A. has absorbed about 200,000, maybe more, Latin Americans in the last decade and almost all live in housing. Cost of housing is way down the list of reasons forthe vast majority of homeless. Many were not current residents of these cities hosting these thousands of people before living on the streets. The homeless overwhelmingly are not homeless. They are either drug dependent or mentaly ill. Neither group cares about housing. The homeless, overwhelmingly are not homeless ? If they don't care about housing, they are not homeless ? war is peace. ignorance is strength. freedom is slavery. Orwell has nothing on VB.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 22, 2019 19:01:40 GMT -5
Unfortunately it is difficult for people to access mental health treatment even if they want treatment, much less people that aren't seeking it. to paraphrase another poster, that is a conservative talking point.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 22, 2019 19:02:36 GMT -5
Unfortunately it is difficult for people to access mental health treatment even if they want treatment, much less people that aren't seeking it. Hard to get access to addiction treatment, too, especially if you don't have insurance.
also difficult if you have no physical address.
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Post by resolution on Jul 22, 2019 19:49:17 GMT -5
Unfortunately it is difficult for people to access mental health treatment even if they want treatment, much less people that aren't seeking it. to paraphrase another poster, that is a conservative talking point. It is experience working with the homeless, not a talking point.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 22, 2019 19:52:04 GMT -5
to paraphrase another poster, that is a conservative talking point. It is experience working with the homeless, not a talking point. I was being sarcastic, res. did I use the wrong emoji?
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Post by tallguy on Jul 22, 2019 21:04:05 GMT -5
I generally use . You know, the one that says "sarcasm" when you hover over it.
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Post by resolution on Jul 22, 2019 21:23:13 GMT -5
Sorry I am sick and kind of cranky tonight.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 23, 2019 0:19:09 GMT -5
I generally use . You know, the one that says "sarcasm" when you hover over it. for some reason that one never strikes me as "sarcasm".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 8:37:20 GMT -5
Hard to get access to addiction treatment, too, especially if you don't have insurance.
also difficult if you have no physical address. I understand it's hard to get hired at just about any type of job with no address.
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Post by busymom on Jul 23, 2019 9:57:33 GMT -5
I can verify there are plenty of homeless folks in Florida. And this is supposedly a "red" state. Of course the homeless are going to set up camp in warmer states. It beats freezing to death up North.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 23, 2019 10:01:13 GMT -5
Los Angeles is the second most populated city in the country. California is the most populated state in the country. Coastal California, especially southern California, has a mild climate. Ergo, Los Angeles is ripe for a high homeless population.
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