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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 10, 2019 12:23:24 GMT -5
Slap up a picture of Trump there with him. One of the alleged underage assaults happened at Mar A Lago.
With Trump's affection for walking into dressing rooms with naked and semi-naked beauty pageant contestants so he can get a good look at the merch, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine he knew about it Epstein and looked the other way.
Creepiest thing about that story was that Ivanka told it, and then laughed about it. Makes me wonder about her relationship with her dad.
I was poking around on snopes.com yesterday and ran across this photo of Trump and his daughter. I thought it was creepy, due to where his hands are.
The photo "which features a young Ivanka and her father standing next to a motorcycle, was taken in 1993" per snopes. ETA - snopes credits Getty images with the photo. ETA2 she was about 12 at the time the photo was taken.
BuzzFeed reports that a Washington Post column comparing Donald Trump to Michael Corleone of The Godfather saga initially included a controversial quote later removed before its publication on Tuesday. Specifically, the quote dealt with Trump's relationship with his daughter Ivanka; columnist Richard Cohen quoted Trump asking "someone I know" of a then 13-year-old Ivanka: "Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?" www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8353161/donald-trump-sexual-attraction-ivanka-trump/
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 10, 2019 13:10:38 GMT -5
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 10, 2019 13:39:39 GMT -5
At least one Florida Business man seems to be claiming knowledge of Epstein and young girls. It's a quote from Slate Florida businessman George Houraney said he was the one who fulfilled Trump’s request in 1992 for the beautiful women to attend a VIP party at the Trump property. “I arranged to have some contestants fly in,” Houraney told the Times in an interview this week. “At the very first party, I said, ‘Who’s coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming.’ It was him and Epstein.” That the party wasn’t really a party at all surprised Houraney. “I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s. You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’ ” Houraney recalled. “I said, ‘Look, Donald, I know Jeff really well, I can’t have him going after younger girls.’ ” Houraney told Trump that he had “pretty much had to ban Jeff from my events” but said “Trump didn’t care about that.”
I'm confused from this Slate article - when he says 28 'girls' does he mean 'young ladies, all old enough to pose for a racy calendar?' or does he literally mean preteens?
If it's two wealthy guys staging a private party with 28 nude ( but of legal age) calendar girls, that's crude, but it's probably a wet dream for a segment of wealthy men. Well, wet dream for a certain segment of men, but only the really wealthy ones could actually have the money to achieve it. Not much of a stretch of the imagination to think that Trump (the self proclaimed lover of beautiful women, the one who can't help but grab them and kiss them) would have leapt at the chance to swim in a pool of beautiful young calendar women.
If he literally means girls as in 'under aged women' that's a whole other thing, and would be a true bombshell, if Trump did indeed participate in a party with Epstein where 28 tweens were shipped in for a party.
It would help if men stopped referring to women past the age of 18 as 'girls.' That's an uphill battle, though.
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Post by dondub on Jul 10, 2019 13:43:51 GMT -5
OC can't seem to do it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 10, 2019 13:48:18 GMT -5
He'll NEVER tell us what "little girls" he was talking about.
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Post by steff on Jul 10, 2019 14:02:23 GMT -5
And now the criminal syndicate in the administration are going to make it EASIER for the rich to sexually assault & traffic young girls. Again, that whole Pizzagate thing is looking more and more like projection to protect their own sexual assaults on children.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 10, 2019 14:04:46 GMT -5
The block feature can help you with that.
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Post by hurley1980 on Jul 10, 2019 14:05:25 GMT -5
meanwhile....Trump's approval rating hovers near a 2 year high....... Shows how effed up this country is...
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Post by dondub on Jul 10, 2019 14:08:37 GMT -5
The block feature can help you with that. I am completely opposed to blocking which I feel is censorship. I want to see all that the Repo-Cons have to offer.
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Post by steff on Jul 10, 2019 14:11:58 GMT -5
“Mr Epstein was a very wealthy and important person, his friends even more so, and these girls - much as we sympathized with them - just weren't either of those things." @secretaryacosta
Protecting the rich white man & blaming the victims. Where are all the kool aid drinkers now?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 10, 2019 14:15:39 GMT -5
The block feature can help you with that. I am completely opposed to blocking which I feel is censorship. I want to see all that the Repo-Cons have to offer. I see it more as saving myself a bunch of frustration but I admire you (and everyone else) who has the fortitude to keep reading everyone.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 10, 2019 14:24:52 GMT -5
“Mr Epstein was a very wealthy and important person, his friends even more so, and these girls - much as we sympathized with them - just weren't either of those things." @secretaryacosta
Protecting the rich white man & blaming the victims. Where are all the kool aid drinkers now?
They weren't rich or important, so they don't matter. Absolutely disgusting.
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Post by steff on Jul 10, 2019 14:28:47 GMT -5
“Mr Epstein was a very wealthy and important person, his friends even more so, and these girls - much as we sympathized with them - just weren't either of those things." @secretaryacosta
Protecting the rich white man & blaming the victims. Where are all the kool aid drinkers now?
They weren't rich or important, so they don't matter. Absolutely disgusting. Hell, he made sure they weren't even victims. He listed them as "child prostitutes" in the plea agreement. Young girls raped & sold to the highest bidder by a sex trafficker, but he's a "wealthy & important person" while they are just "child prostitutes".
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 10, 2019 14:35:45 GMT -5
I admit, I somehow missed the transition in word usage from prostitution to sex trafficking.
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Post by steff on Jul 10, 2019 15:20:45 GMT -5
Next time a man starts spewing about why don't rape victims come forward. This is just one of the multitude of reasons. These victims, young girls, were labeled "prostitutes" and not even given their chance to speak out by those in positions of authority to get justice for them.
A rich, connected, white man was "more important" than they were. Those are the words of the man who was meant to fight for justice for them.
So next time a man wants to say "why don't women come forward", they can sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
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Post by dondub on Jul 10, 2019 15:34:40 GMT -5
Amen sister.
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Jul 10, 2019 16:53:00 GMT -5
I know these men brag. Epstein bragged to Clinton and Trump, et al.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jul 11, 2019 0:31:50 GMT -5
And nobody seems to be upset about the many Democrats who sucked up to the many sexual predators in Hollywood. Whatever.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 11, 2019 1:42:17 GMT -5
And nobody seems to be upset about the many Democrats who sucked up to the many sexual predators in Hollywood. Whatever. you seem upset. you're somebody.
you are not alone. I have done quite a few women's marches. trust me. they are upset.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 11, 2019 7:01:11 GMT -5
And nobody seems to be upset about the many Democrats who sucked up to the many sexual predators in Hollywood. Whatever. On the contrary, I think the public mood right now is to out all the pervy guys, regardless of their wealth, power, or political orientation.
No one is trying to defend Clinton, one of the Dem's top pervy guys, and known to be a big pal of Epstein. If there is proof he knew about this, or engaged in it, I think he's fucked.
Hopefully when they get this rock turned over, all the child sex party guys get prosecuted, no matter how important they are in Hollywood, or the Dem or GOP party, or industry, or whatever.
It won't stop all this disturbing behavior, but it will stop some of it, and if we can make an example of some of these guys who thought they couldn't be touched, maybe it will stop some of the other pervy guys from abusing girls.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 11, 2019 8:17:54 GMT -5
And nobody seems to be upset about the many Democrats who sucked up to the many sexual predators in Hollywood. Whatever. On the contrary, I think the public mood right now is to out all the pervy guys, regardless of their wealth, power, or political orientation.
No one is trying to defend Clinton, one of the Dem's top pervy guys, and known to be a big pal of Epstein. If there is proof he knew about this, or engaged in it, I think he's fucked.
Hopefully when they get this rock turned over, all the child sex party guys get prosecuted, no matter how important they are in Hollywood, or the Dem or GOP party, or industry, or whatever.
It won't stop all this disturbing behavior, but it will stop some of it, and if we can make an example of some of these guys who thought they couldn't be touched, maybe it will stop some of the other pervy guys from abusing girls.
Yep, bring them all into the light, from top to bottom.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 11, 2019 9:55:31 GMT -5
Hard to see reality when your head is up the Trump Rump. Yeah, um...Trump supporters aren't the ones who are having an argument with reality, are we. It would take me the rest of the day to make a list of things we were right about and you were wrong about.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 11, 2019 9:57:14 GMT -5
meanwhile....Trump's approval rating hovers near a 2 year high....... And higher than Clinton, Bush, and Obama at this point in their first terms. They went on to win second terms. I did notice a smattering of articles yesterday which acknowledged the reality that Trump is cruising towards a second term. And that's before the second round of Dem debates-- which should be at least as big a farce as the first.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 11, 2019 9:58:54 GMT -5
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Post by dondub on Jul 11, 2019 10:06:38 GMT -5
Hard to see reality when your head is up the Trump Rump. Yeah, um...Trump supporters aren't the ones who are having an argument with reality, are we. It would take me the rest of the day to make a list of things we were right about and you were wrong about. Such as the results of the 2018 elections?
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 11, 2019 11:49:44 GMT -5
Yeah, um...Trump supporters aren't the ones who are having an argument with reality, are we. It would take me the rest of the day to make a list of things we were right about and you were wrong about. Such as the results of the 2018 elections? Clinton dead from Parkinsons.
All the Dems frog marched into the streets and shot, once the Mueller report comes out.
I could go on all day.
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Post by dondub on Jul 11, 2019 12:17:29 GMT -5
Keep going...you have Mittmentum!
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 12, 2019 8:50:57 GMT -5
Acosta just resigned. link
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