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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 9, 2019 15:02:14 GMT -5
What, are we middle school girls passing notes now?
I'm going to blow your mind and say "I don't know"
Any reputable news source that has mentioned this case that I have personally seen has always called her the 'alleged' 13 year old accuser. I haven't seen anything that provides documented proof one way or another, so I've always filed this in the 'rumor' category, which doesn't make it true, and doesn't make it false. Just like the pee tapes.
Since the only thing I've ever read asserting she didn't exist is something you wrote, and I know from experience where you get your 'facts,' I'm afraid I have to continue to keep this in the 'rumor' file.
When it comes to trump and sexual perversion, there is an AMAZING amount of smoke. What is that saying again? Actually, there's virtually no credible evidence of "sexual perversion" at all. Save for a succession of imported wives in the 1990's-- one of which is still with him-- there's very little evidence Trump is into much of anything. A lot of people would be amazed at the shit you don't get into when you don't drink and use drugs.
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Post by dondub on Jul 9, 2019 15:12:33 GMT -5
Hard to see reality when your head is up the Trump Rump.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 9, 2019 15:14:26 GMT -5
When it comes to trump and sexual perversion, there is an AMAZING amount of smoke. What is that saying again? Actually, there's virtually no credible evidence of "sexual perversion" at all. Save for a succession of imported wives in the 1990's-- one of which is still with him-- there's very little evidence Trump is into much of anything. A lot of people would be amazed at the shit you don't get into when you don't drink and use drugs. I think getting a hooker to spank your ass with a magazine that has your picture on the cover right after your wife gave birth is pretty perverse, but that's just me.
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Post by dondub on Jul 9, 2019 15:15:46 GMT -5
Was it a fake TIME with his picture on the cover?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 9, 2019 15:15:48 GMT -5
I think telling Howard Stern that it's OK to call your daughter "a piece of ass" is pretty perverse, but that's just me.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 9, 2019 15:16:58 GMT -5
I think barging into the Miss Teen USA dressing rooms when they were naked, "just because I can" is pretty perverse, but that's just me.
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Post by dondub on Jul 9, 2019 15:17:46 GMT -5
What about grabbing women by the vulva, welts?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 9, 2019 15:18:46 GMT -5
What about grabbing women by the vulva, welts? Well that goes without saying.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 9, 2019 15:19:38 GMT -5
What did Trump have for lunch. Paul? You have your head so far up Trump's ass, that I'm sure you can taste it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 9, 2019 15:22:21 GMT -5
What, like the Whitewater scandal?
Remind me again what the Clintons were convicted for from that, after so many hours and so much money spent investigating it?
who cares, anyway. Bill will be dead from Parkinson's any day now.
oh wait. that was Hillary.
never mind.
Hillary died in September, 2016 after her diagnosis was provided us several weeks earlier back then. Who you see today is her look-a-like stand-in.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 9, 2019 15:34:13 GMT -5
Neither was Trump. I'm not surprised a bunch of Dems still believe this, but just so you know- it was a fictional accuser. You read that right. The 13 year old in question doesn't even exist. There is no accuser. It was a total and complete fabrication-- to the point where even the victim was made up. There never was a Jane Doe. The salacious allegations have no basis in fact and the "anonymous" accuser has yet to surface- because she doesn't exist. Got any proof of that? Conservative Nuthouse doesn't count. Anything yet? Or was that the product of a fever dream?
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Post by dondub on Jul 9, 2019 15:41:32 GMT -5
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 9, 2019 16:05:45 GMT -5
Slap up a picture of Trump there with him. One of the alleged underage assaults happened at Mar A Lago.
With Trump's affection for walking into dressing rooms with naked and semi-naked beauty pageant contestants so he can get a good look at the merch, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine he knew about it Epstein and looked the other way.
Creepiest thing about that story was that Ivanka told it, and then laughed about it. Makes me wonder about her relationship with her dad.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 9, 2019 16:09:23 GMT -5
Slap up a picture of Trump there with him. One of the alleged underage assaults happened at Mar A Lago.
With Trump's affection for walking into dressing rooms with naked and semi-naked TEEN beauty pageant contestants so he can get a good look at the merch, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine he knew about it Epstein and looked the other way.
Creepiest thing about that story was that Ivanka told it, and then laughed about it. Makes me wonder about her relationship with her dad.
fixed one word. it makes it a lot creepier.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 9, 2019 16:32:56 GMT -5
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Post by jkapp on Jul 9, 2019 21:16:40 GMT -5
The issue isn't that Epstein gave money to a political party. ‘I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.’ - Donald Trump, 2002” The quote is from a 2002 New York Magazine profile of Epstein. (emphasis added)
www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-praised-terrific-guy-epstein-who-likes-women-on-the-younger-side-1.7453257 It is about who enjoyed hanging out with him and why that might have been the case. Kind of like the people who thought Charlie Rose was a great guy, or Matt Lauer, or how all these righteous Hollywood types celebrated and even awarded Roman Polanski. Funny how liberals seem to forget these other "monsters" and how much they liked them and even defended them.
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Post by kadee79 on Jul 9, 2019 21:29:32 GMT -5
Deflection!!!
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 9, 2019 21:34:41 GMT -5
The issue isn't that Epstein gave money to a political party. ‘I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.’ - Donald Trump, 2002” The quote is from a 2002 New York Magazine profile of Epstein. (emphasis added)
www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-praised-terrific-guy-epstein-who-likes-women-on-the-younger-side-1.7453257 It is about who enjoyed hanging out with him and why that might have been the case. Kind of like the people who thought Charlie Rose was a great guy, or Matt Lauer, or how all these righteous Hollywood types celebrated and even awarded Roman Polanski. Funny how liberals seem to forget these other "monsters" and how much they liked them and even defended them. Nope, not in any way like.
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Post by dondub on Jul 9, 2019 21:46:31 GMT -5
Maybe Kapp is a Catholic.
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Post by steff on Jul 9, 2019 21:49:04 GMT -5
Polanski, Lauer, & Rose didn't give a cabinet position the prosecutor who gave a sex trafficker a sweet heart deal, called young girls who were raped, photographed, exploited & sold to the highest bidder "prostitutes" when writing that sweetheart deal. Polanski, Lauer, & Rose didn't give a cabinet position to the prosecutor who wrote a sweetheart deal without ever even informing the victims. P,L&R didn't give a cabinet position to a guy that he offered up sympathy for while never even mentioning the actual victims of a child trafficker.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 9, 2019 22:56:26 GMT -5
The issue isn't that Epstein gave money to a political party. ‘I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.’ - Donald Trump, 2002” The quote is from a 2002 New York Magazine profile of Epstein. (emphasis added)
www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-praised-terrific-guy-epstein-who-likes-women-on-the-younger-side-1.7453257 It is about who enjoyed hanging out with him and why that might have been the case. Kind of like the people who thought Charlie Rose was a great guy, or Matt Lauer, or how all these righteous Hollywood types celebrated and even awarded Roman Polanski. Funny how liberals seem to forget these other "monsters" and how much they liked them and even defended them. I have a wide variance of opinion with other liberals on this subject. I actually don't care if the artist is an asshole or not. I only care about the art. if the art is good, that is all that matters to me. I get that some people can't stomach the art if the artist is an asshole. I really do get that. and that's fine. I promise not to criticize people who feel that way. as long as they don't criticize me for feeling differently.
that having been said, I have no qualms saying "the guy is a prick, but I like his movies".
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Post by tallguy on Jul 9, 2019 23:28:00 GMT -5
Kind of like the people who thought Charlie Rose was a great guy, or Matt Lauer, or how all these righteous Hollywood types celebrated and even awarded Roman Polanski. Funny how liberals seem to forget these other "monsters" and how much they liked them and even defended them. I have a wide variance of opinion with other liberals on this subject. I actually don't care if the artist is an asshole or not. I only care about the art. if the art is good, that is all that matters to me. I get that some people can't stomach the art if the artist is an asshole. I really do get that. and that's fine. I promise not to criticize people who feel that way. as long as they don't criticize me for feeling differently.
that having been said, I have no qualms saying "the guy is a prick, but I like his movies".
My GF has an issue with the artist as a person. I don't. She won't watch Woody Allen or listen to Michael Jackson for example, among others. I figure if I liked the movie or the song before I heard negative information about the person, I can still like it afterwards. What they did later doesn't retroactively make all of their previous work bad. If seeing or hearing the art strikes a negative chord in someone, fine. It doesn't for me. It is separate.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 10, 2019 7:36:34 GMT -5
Epstein has apparently gone around telling a bunch of people that he introduced Trump to wife #3.
Don't know if it's true or not. Another rumor.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 10, 2019 9:03:55 GMT -5
Slap up a picture of Trump there with him. One of the alleged underage assaults happened at Mar A Lago.
With Trump's affection for walking into dressing rooms with naked and semi-naked beauty pageant contestants so he can get a good look at the merch, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine he knew about it Epstein and looked the other way.
Creepiest thing about that story was that Ivanka told it, and then laughed about it. Makes me wonder about her relationship with her dad.
I was poking around on snopes.com yesterday and ran across this photo of Trump and his daughter. I thought it was creepy, due to where his hands are.
The photo "which features a young Ivanka and her father standing next to a motorcycle, was taken in 1993" per snopes. ETA - snopes credits Getty images with the photo. ETA2 she was about 12 at the time the photo was taken.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 10, 2019 9:53:52 GMT -5
What, are we middle school girls passing notes now?
I'm going to blow your mind and say "I don't know"
Any reputable news source that has mentioned this case that I have personally seen has always called her the 'alleged' 13 year old accuser. I haven't seen anything that provides documented proof one way or another, so I've always filed this in the 'rumor' category, which doesn't make it true, and doesn't make it false. Just like the pee tapes.
Since the only thing I've ever read asserting she didn't exist is something you wrote, and I know from experience where you get your 'facts,' I'm afraid I have to continue to keep this in the 'rumor' file.
When it comes to trump and sexual perversion, there is an AMAZING amount of smoke. What is that saying again? And it ain't from one minute of friction.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 10, 2019 9:55:05 GMT -5
Slap up a picture of Trump there with him. One of the alleged underage assaults happened at Mar A Lago.
With Trump's affection for walking into dressing rooms with naked and semi-naked beauty pageant contestants so he can get a good look at the merch, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine he knew about it Epstein and looked the other way.
Creepiest thing about that story was that Ivanka told it, and then laughed about it. Makes me wonder about her relationship with her dad.
I was poking around on snopes.com yesterday and ran across this photo of Trump and his daughter. I thought it was creepy, due to where his hands are.
The photo "which features a young Ivanka and her father standing next to a motorcycle, was taken in 1993" per snopes. ETA - snopes credits Getty images with the photo. ETA2 she was about 12 at the time the photo was taken.
Daddy rights.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 10, 2019 11:01:25 GMT -5
Yeah, very interesting.
Just too murky, I think, and the two anti-Trumpers pushing the story sound like real whack jobs.
I'm more inclined to believe what the detective says - that Epstein had private sex parties with under aged girls, but never with other men participating.
Epstein had large, lavish parties that other men attended, but those didn't include under aged sex with girls.
This sounds more plausible - I would think a middle aged guy who liked very young girls would keep that habit to himself, to avoid being exposed as a pedophile. I know the response my DH would have if he went over to some guy's house and the guy produced a couple tweens and suggested they all have sex. Probably 99% of the adult male population would feel the same way. Epstein wouldn't risk blackmail by letting that little secret slip out to just anyone.
There's already plenty of adult women who have credible assault stories about Trump for us to know he's a creep, don't need to make up any.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 10, 2019 11:17:05 GMT -5
At least one Florida Business man seems to be claiming knowledge of Epstein and young girls. It's a quote from Slate Florida businessman George Houraney said he was the one who fulfilled Trump’s request in 1992 for the beautiful women to attend a VIP party at the Trump property. “I arranged to have some contestants fly in,” Houraney told the Times in an interview this week. “At the very first party, I said, ‘Who’s coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming.’ It was him and Epstein.” That the party wasn’t really a party at all surprised Houraney. “I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s. You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’ ” Houraney recalled. “I said, ‘Look, Donald, I know Jeff really well, I can’t have him going after younger girls.’ ” Houraney told Trump that he had “pretty much had to ban Jeff from my events” but said “Trump didn’t care about that.”
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 10, 2019 11:21:16 GMT -5
meanwhile....Trump's approval rating hovers near a 2 year high.......
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Post by dondub on Jul 10, 2019 11:28:13 GMT -5
I believe NYC police have gathered evidence at Epstien’s Including photos of men and young girls. We’ll see where that goes. Seeing some rich and famous go down for illegal sex acts would be gratifying.
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