Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 10:18:45 GMT -5
I got an early morning call yesterday from the county's public health department. Scared the shit out of me, pun intended.
I have camphobacter from eating some under-cooked chicken from a BBQ a few days prior to becoming ill. This is so not fun, it will be a long time before I can look at chicken in any form again.
|
|
souldoubt
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 4, 2011 11:57:14 GMT -5
Posts: 2,745
|
Post by souldoubt on Jun 20, 2019 10:23:04 GMT -5
I thought this was pretty common knowledge. Unlike beef eating chicken that's under cooked at all is a recipe for disaster.
|
|
TheOtherMe
Distinguished Associate
Joined: Dec 24, 2010 14:40:52 GMT -5
Posts: 26,956
Mini-Profile Name Color: e619e6
|
Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 20, 2019 10:26:01 GMT -5
Sorry, Shasta.
While I know I can still get a food borne illness, it will not be from any kind of meat because I am vegetarian.
My mother used to insist we should not eat pink chicken. Guess I know why.
Feel better soon.
Does it have to run it's course or is there medication?
|
|
dannylion
Junior Associate
Gravity is a harsh mistress
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 12:17:52 GMT -5
Posts: 5,194
Location: Miles over the madness horizon and accelerating
|
Post by dannylion on Jun 20, 2019 10:30:00 GMT -5
I do not eat pink meat of any kind. I like to be sure my food and any little friends it brought with it are dead before I eat it.
Sorry you've had a bad bout of food poisoning, Shasta. It is definitely not fun. First you're afraid you're going to die, then you're afraid you won't (at least that was my experience--I hope yours was less dramatic). Carbonated soda was a blessing.
Hope you're feeling better soon.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 10:33:26 GMT -5
The chicken was BBQ'd by my son's GF's father and had been refrigerated. I didn't realize it was raw inside until biting into it. Apparently, that's all it took.
I'm on two of the strongest antibiotics you can take. So far, I no longer have fevers but otherwise still feel really crappy.
|
|
swamp
Community Leader
Don't be a fool. Call me!
Joined: Dec 19, 2010 16:03:22 GMT -5
Posts: 45,294
|
Post by swamp on Jun 20, 2019 10:36:14 GMT -5
Sorry you've had a bad bout of food poisoning, Shasta. It is definitely not fun. F irst you're afraid you're going to die, then you're afraid you won't (at least that was my experience--I hope yours was less dramatic). Carbonated soda was a blessing. Hope you're feeling better soon. , That is exactly my experience with food poisoning. Best wishes you recover quickly.
|
|
Tiny
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 29, 2010 21:22:34 GMT -5
Posts: 13,357
|
Post by Tiny on Jun 20, 2019 10:54:39 GMT -5
Sorry you are sick. I hear the road to recovery is slow and not particularly pleasant. A friend switched the family dog over to a "diet" which included raw chicken... Everyone in the family went thru several rounds of what they thought was a "noro virus" sickness over a six month period, until Mom was diagnosed with camphobacter.... the dog eats kibble again. They made 'excuses' - the kids were back to school so got it there and then gave it to their parents, their parents went on a 3 day trip and picked it up and gave it to the kids, they got "food poisoning" from the take out food they ate (and it made the rounds of the family again.) They think they all went thru rounds of salmonella - before Mom got really sick... You con't need to necessarily EAT under cooked chicken - you need to be careful with raw chicken (and the remains of it - like dog spit or dog spit left in the dog food bowl) that's been left out for long periods of time. There's a reason Mom cleaned up the knife(s), platters, cutting board quickly (didn't put it all in the sink for later) after cutting up the whole raw chicken. And then also washed the counter and her hands. And maybe even put the dishcloth used in the 'wash' sooner than later.
|
|
Wisconsin Beth
Distinguished Associate
No, we don't walk away. But when we're holding on to something precious, we run.
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 11:59:36 GMT -5
Posts: 30,626
|
Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 20, 2019 10:59:48 GMT -5
I'm sorry you're going thru this. I hope you get better, fast.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 10:59:52 GMT -5
Sorry you've had a bad bout of food poisoning, Shasta. It is definitely not fun. F irst you're afraid you're going to die, then you're afraid you won't (at least that was my experience--I hope yours was less dramatic). Carbonated soda was a blessing. Hope you're feeling better soon. , That is exactly my experience with food poisoning. Best wishes you recover quickly. I had food poisoning when I was a child. My father and I had gone to the beach and had some salami that got too warm and made us both sick. That experience was one of the colon wanting to come out of the body. OMG, it was horrid. This illness is different. This one makes my intestines feel like they are growing like someone blowing up a balloon. My back hurts from the pressure. The nerve in my leg hurts from the groin pressure. Eating anything makes the swelling worse and even on a very light diet of toast and jello, I have to go to bed in the evening because I feel so bloated and miserable. I had an insane headache for the first 5 days, and fevers that were unrelenting. But, the diarrhea, while miserable, wasn't anywhere near as bad as the previous experience. Thankfully!
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 11:08:03 GMT -5
Sorry you are sick. I hear the road to recovery is slow and not particularly pleasant.
(won't let me click to type below the quote box....)
Any idea how long?
They only gave me antibiotics for 7 days. I will be out in 3 and still feel miserable.
Online it says there is only one antibiotic this bacteria isn't resistant to and it isn't one of the two they gave me. I called my MDs office yesterday and no one has called me back. My doc quit recently and we are getting "traveling physician assistants" and they change weekly...
The public health nurse said I likely had another intestinal infection that's been causing the chronic pain, and that's what gave this bug the environment to blow up.
My dogs also ate some chicken. I may treat them both as well, just in case because one of my dogs has horrible gas. The last thing I want is to get this crap again.
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 38,386
|
Post by chiver78 on Jun 20, 2019 11:13:12 GMT -5
your pups will likely be okay without intervention. dogs can actually process raw chicken, not sure how that's a thing. the only question I would have is that grey area between raw and cooked, and then the hold time, did any additional bacteria find a home and flourish? definitely worth keeping an eye on. gentle hugs for you, though. I've had a couple violent bouts of food poisoning, and norovirus. none of it is fun, at all. here's hoping the meds work soon.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 11:18:00 GMT -5
your pups will likely be okay without intervention. dogs can actually process raw chicken, not sure how that's a thing. the only question I would have is that grey area between raw and cooked, and then the hold time, did any additional bacteria find a home and flourish? definitely worth keeping an eye on. gentle hugs for you, though. I've had a couple violent bouts of food poisoning, and norovirus. none of it is fun, at all. here's hoping the meds work soon. Thank you. I didn't process the chicken and it was cooked elsewhere. As far as I know, I'm the only person who got sick. The PHN said it's unusual to get this sick from this bug and I had to have an underlying condition. I think all the groin pain I have been having was colitis and this just made things more complicated.
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 38,386
|
Post by chiver78 on Jun 20, 2019 11:21:24 GMT -5
oh, I wasn't expecting you to have an answer, just thinking aloud. humans can't process the bacterias found in raw chicken, but pups can. and then whatever's in there that gets cooked is fine for all of us. I'm just wondering if something else could settle in during that middle ground of partially cooked and held, that the pups would react to.
sorry, trying not to think aloud too graphically. I know I didn't touch chicken for a long time after my most recent food poisoning incident, and it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever set foot again in the establishment where it happened.
|
|
Tiny
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 29, 2010 21:22:34 GMT -5
Posts: 13,357
|
Post by Tiny on Jun 20, 2019 13:17:10 GMT -5
Sorry you are sick. I hear the road to recovery is slow and not particularly pleasant.
(won't let me click to type below the quote box....)
Any idea how long?
They only gave me antibiotics for 7 days. I will be out in 3 and still feel miserable.
Online it says there is only one antibiotic this bacteria isn't resistant to and it isn't one of the two they gave me. I called my MDs office yesterday and no one has called me back. My doc quit recently and we are getting "traveling physician assistants" and they change weekly...
The public health nurse said I likely had another intestinal infection that's been causing the chronic pain, and that's what gave this bug the environment to blow up.
My dogs also ate some chicken. I may treat them both as well, just in case because one of my dogs has horrible gas. The last thing I want is to get this crap again.
Your dogs should be OK. They're built to process things like raw chicken and all sorts of gross stuff without a problem. I doubt you'd get anything back from them at this point. The friend (and family) think it was the dog's bowl that the raw chicken was dispensed from that was the biggest problem... they'd pick up and clean the bowl, put the raw chicken in the bowl - the dog would eat - and then they'd leave the bowl down/out until the next "feed the dog" time. Plenty of time for anything left on the bowl (or the mat under the bowl) to "grow". It wasn't always "pick up bowl and immediately wash bowl". Plus if they moved the bowl/mat between meals... plenty of occasions to touch something that might have been "growing" without immediately washing one's hands before doing something else. Before "Mom" got sick - they were becoming suspicious of the dog's food - and were trying to stick to a routine "feed dog, when dog done eating give dog some quiet time, remove and clean bowl." but it was hard - with an active family and changing schedules. Once the dog was back on "kibble" or actual dog food, no more "noro viruses" making the rounds of the family members. My friend started to feel better towards the end of the round of antibiotics. I think she returned to the doctor at the end of the course of antibiotics and got another round... I think she had 14 or 20 days of antibiotics. Once the antibiotics did their job - it was another 4 to 6 weeks before she felt 'normal' - not tired and achy. It was like recovering from the Flu - the real Flu - the one where you are in bed for 3 days with a " high fever and are coughing and feel like every joint hurts and starting to wonder if you are heading to Pneumonia and maybe you really are dying" Flu. They only gave me antibiotics for 7 days. I will be out in 3 and still feel miserable. Don't mess around - if your condition hasn't changed by the last day of antibiotics - I'd head back to the doctor's office. My friend wasn't very graphic about what she was experiencing - but I surmise it was diarrhea and gassy, intestinal pain continuously, she was also achy, headache-y, exhausted. Sometimes you need to be persistent until you get the right antibiotic. Be persistent.
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Jun 20, 2019 13:28:54 GMT -5
The chicken was BBQ'd by my son's GF's father and had been refrigerated. I didn't realize it was raw inside until biting into it. Apparently, that's all it took. I'm on two of the strongest antibiotics you can take. So far, I no longer have fevers but otherwise still feel really crappy. This is a concern. Are you taking probiotics to maintain the healthy flora in your gut?
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Jun 20, 2019 13:30:46 GMT -5
I thought this was pretty common knowledge. Unlike beef eating chicken that's under cooked at all is a recipe for disaster. No kidding! When I ate meat, I loved, loved, loved Steak Tartare. They don't make Chicken Tartare, for good reason.
|
|
Artemis Windsong
Senior Associate
The love in me salutes the love in you. M. Williamson
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 19:32:12 GMT -5
Posts: 12,284
Today's Mood: Twinkling
Location: Wishing Star
Favorite Drink: Fresh, clean cold bottled water.
|
Post by Artemis Windsong on Jun 20, 2019 14:20:31 GMT -5
Florastore was what was recommended when my H. had antibiotic intestine problems that yogurt wouldn't help.
I'm sorry you are sick. At least you got a diagnosis and medication. I hope your recovery is quick and easy. I had a terrible time getting some chicken cooked in a rental oven while on vacation. H. finally took over. Next time I'm slicing thin and quick frying.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 14:28:52 GMT -5
The chicken was BBQ'd by my son's GF's father and had been refrigerated. I didn't realize it was raw inside until biting into it. Apparently, that's all it took. I'm on two of the strongest antibiotics you can take. So far, I no longer have fevers but otherwise still feel really crappy. This is a concern. Are you taking probiotics to maintain the healthy flora in your gut? Since last Wednesday, I have eaten a diet of jello, toast, and water. I'm afraid to take anything the way I feel. Everything gives me indigestion and bloats me. I might try yogurt, but just the smell of it makes me want to vomit.
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Jun 20, 2019 14:57:29 GMT -5
This is a concern. Are you taking probiotics to maintain the healthy flora in your gut? Since last Wednesday, I have eaten a diet of jello, toast, and water. I'm afraid to take anything the way I feel. Everything gives me indigestion and bloats me. I might try yogurt, but just the smell of it makes me want to vomit. You can get probiotics in pill form. The refrigerated ones are best. They can be pretty pricey, but Natural Factors Acidophilus and Bifidus is the one I take...it's under $20. ($15.99 in the health food store). Quite a few nurses I know take that with a course of antibiotics.
|
|
Regis
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 27, 2010 12:26:50 GMT -5
Posts: 1,414
|
Post by Regis on Jun 20, 2019 15:21:54 GMT -5
The chicken was BBQ'd by my son's GF's father and had been refrigerated. I didn't realize it was raw inside until biting into it. Apparently, that's all it took. I'm on two of the strongest antibiotics you can take. So far, I no longer have fevers but otherwise still feel really crappy. You should buy him a meat thermometer. I don't BBQ without one.
|
|
countrygirl2
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 7, 2016 15:45:05 GMT -5
Posts: 16,709
|
Post by countrygirl2 on Jun 21, 2019 16:52:04 GMT -5
I have had food poisoning twice, ended up in the ER, was never so sick. I got it in a restaurant went back to file against them, the thing was multi page and it would have never gone anywhere. I had had a salad!
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 9:08:24 GMT -5
I asked for the right antibiotic to treat this bug and am just starting that.
I do feel better, but I am still having a lot of the same abdominal pain I was having before the intensive illness started.
I still believe I have a mesh problem. Since my doc quit and there is no doctor I can see now, I can only see a PA or a RNNP, I need to find a different doctor who will listen to the problem and find some sort of workable solution. I can't spend another year on the ice pack half the time...
|
|
Works4me
Senior Member
Someone responded to your personal ad - a German Shepherd named Tara wants to have you for dinner...
Joined: May 5, 2012 12:11:37 GMT -5
Posts: 2,522
|
Post by Works4me on Jun 22, 2019 9:58:48 GMT -5
I'm glad you are on what seems to be the right antibiotic. Please keep getting better - I look forward to your posts and am glad you are here.
Regarding your health care provuder, have you met either the PA or the RNNP? I have found that I frequently prefer a PA, a RNNP and even an OD over an MD.
Good luck and Godspeed.
|
|
|
Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 22, 2019 11:16:44 GMT -5
I asked for the right antibiotic to treat this bug and am just starting that. I do feel better, but I am still having a lot of the same abdominal pain I was having before the intensive illness started. I still believe I have a mesh problem. Since my doc quit and there is no doctor I can see now, I can only see a PA or a RNNP, I need to find a different doctor who will listen to the problem and find some sort of workable solution. I can't spend another year on the ice pack half the time... Between the antibiotics you were on for your colon infection, and those you were given for food poisoning, you will need to keep an eye out for a C. diff infection.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 14:01:59 GMT -5
I'm glad you are on what seems to be the right antibiotic. Please keep getting better - I look forward to your posts and am glad you are here. Regarding your health care provuder, have you met either the PA or the RNNP? I have found that I frequently prefer a PA, a RNNP and even an OD over an MD. Good luck and Godspeed. Thank you. I don't particularly like one of the RNNP's in the office. The other is the one who sent me to the unhelpful surgeon. The PA I saw was a "traveler" and we were notified their office will be served by various traveling PAs until a doctor can be recruited. The one I saw last week must have been in his 70s... The problem is the more medical professionals you see, the more opinions you have to deal with. Everyone seems to have their favorite drugs and ways of treating things, and I very much don't appreciate being a guinea pig. The ER lectured me how this can be fatal and requires close follow up. The PA said I didn't need any follow-up unless I get sick again. Then the doc that prescribed the new antibiotic said I must have follow up for it and wanted to know why I hadn't booked an appt yet for next week... /smh
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 14:05:37 GMT -5
Between the antibiotics you were on for your colon infection, and those you were given for food poisoning, you will need to keep an eye out for a C. diff infection. Both c.diff and Gillian-Barre scare the shit out of me. I wish I had gotten copies of my CT. I think I might go get them and see if I can see the mesh on the CT scan images. That might give me a better chance at someone listening to what I think is the root problem...
|
|
GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl
Senior Associate
"How you win matters." Ender, Ender's Game
Joined: Jan 2, 2011 13:33:09 GMT -5
Posts: 11,291
|
Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jun 22, 2019 14:09:12 GMT -5
Between the antibiotics you were on for your colon infection, and those you were given for food poisoning, you will need to keep an eye out for a C. diff infection. Both c.diff and Gillian-Barre scare the shit out of me. I wish I had gotten copies of my CT. I think I might go get them and see if I can see the mesh on the CT scan images. That might give me a better chance at someone listening to what I think is the root problem... Was the mesh implanted for a hernia?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 14:22:17 GMT -5
Was the mesh implanted for a hernia? When I had my hysterectomy my incision blew open. I saw this plastic stuff inside and could feel the edges poking into my tissue. I asked the doctor about it and she told me it was mesh. She said since I had 2 previous c-sections and a lot of scar tissue in the area it was there to help meld back together the tissues in hopes of avoiding the incision coming apart. They were already having problems with it back then, and I wasn't thrilled to have it and yet still have my incision come open anyway. There is no mention of mesh on the OR report, so everyone else tells me I can't have it and must be mistaken. So, either the GYN was talking about someone else and I hallucinated seeing it, or I have mesh. I have what feels like tearing of the tissue (burning) and constant swelling just behind my hysterectomy scar on one end. The more physical activity I do, the worse it hurts and the longer time I am unable to do anything. As soon as it heals, something as simple as lifting a heavy object or moving the wrong way ends me right back where I started. I thought it might be muscular, but find it interesting the infection in my colon is right in the same spot I have all the pain and swelling. One of the things they discovered with mesh is it can screw with your colon and tear apart from tissue causing a lot of pain, swelling from activity, and infection. The recent CT scan proved I don't have a hernia. And, I find the explanation that I have had an on-again, off-again infection for over a year a bit hard to swallow. At this point, I am feeling a lot better intestinally, but my groin is still burning like a mother and swollen.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 28, 2024 10:48:38 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 14:25:20 GMT -5
The public health RN told me I shouldn't have gotten so sick from this bug and it's due to my "underlying serious medical condition". I keep asking WHAT condition since everyone I see tells me there's nothing else wrong...
My liver and spleen were inflamed on the CT scan and the PA said that's because I am fat. Google says it's probably from the infection itself or another medical problem...
This time I am pretty determined to find the root cause. I need to be able to move around again before the spring when I sell my house.
|
|
finnime
Junior Associate
Be kind. Everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
Joined: Dec 23, 2010 7:14:35 GMT -5
Posts: 7,313
|
Post by finnime on Jun 22, 2019 14:58:32 GMT -5
Hope you get answers from qualified and competent medical staff who then effectively treat you, @rockhounder.
|
|