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Post by billisonboard on Jun 12, 2019 14:25:23 GMT -5
June 20197New York Time off to Vote
Effective as of April 12, 2019, employees who are registered voters may, without loss of pay for up to three hours, take time off from work in order to vote at any election. The employee shall be allowed time off for voting only at the beginning or end of his or her working shift, as the employer may designate, unless otherwise mutually agreed. If the employee requires time off to vote, the employee must notify his or her employer not less than two working days before the day of the election that he or she requires such time off. Not less than 10 working days before every election, the employer must post conspicuously in the workplace where it can be seen as employees come or go to their place of work, a notice setting forth the provisions of this law. Such notice must be kept posted until the close of the polls on the day of an election (Ch. 55 (S. 1505-C), enacted and effective April 12, 2019). link Trend? My state is all mail in ballots but will other states follow New York?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 14:37:47 GMT -5
Some states probably will.
At least where I am at you have several options to vote early or mail in your ballet, or vote prior to or after your shift. Not sure why private employers should have to support those that want to vote on the actual election day with time off if you have a lot of other options.
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Post by justme on Jun 12, 2019 15:00:47 GMT -5
I think states should be finding ways to get more people to vote, not finding ways to get less people to vote *cough*Georgia*cough*. This would certainly help get people to vote. And it's not like there's not other places that do this.
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Post by oped on Jun 12, 2019 15:03:32 GMT -5
We only have a few employees but we give them paid time off to vote. This should be a national paid holiday. Forget the others.
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Post by phil5185 on Jun 12, 2019 16:43:49 GMT -5
Is this just another way to appease 'snowflakes'? I graduated college and began working in 1963. Never missed an election. In AZ the polls are open from 6:00A to 7:00P, that's 4 hours before/after a workday - how long does it take for today's workers to vote? And did they really need legislation to manage this?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 12, 2019 17:32:59 GMT -5
Is this just another way to appease 'snowflakes'? I graduated college and began working in 1963. Never missed an election. In AZ the polls are open from 6:00A to 7:00P, that's 4 hours before/after a workday - how long does it take for today's workers to vote? And did they really need legislation to manage this? why make voting harder? is there some reason for it?
if not, and if we agree that the goal is to get those that are eligible to vote, why not make it as easy as possible?
unless you disagree that we should make it easier, there is really not much to argue about here.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 12, 2019 18:39:38 GMT -5
Is this just another way to appease 'snowflakes'? I graduated college and began working in 1963. Never missed an election. In AZ the polls are open from 6:00A to 7:00P, that's 4 hours before/after a workday - how long does it take for today's workers to vote? And did they really need legislation to manage this? I understand that "I" but here is a little There are a lot of people who don't work an 8 to 5 schedule. There are a lot of people who have significant travel time to and from work. Also plenty who use public transportation which isn't a quick way to get around from home to polling places to work site.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 18:58:29 GMT -5
I would be for changing a current National holiday to coincide with general election voting day.
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Post by oped on Jun 12, 2019 19:22:57 GMT -5
Is this just another way to appease 'snowflakes'? I graduated college and began working in 1963. Never missed an election. In AZ the polls are open from 6:00A to 7:00P, that's 4 hours before/after a workday - how long does it take for today's workers to vote? And did they really need legislation to manage this? Seriously? You are fucking obtuse. Anecdotes of your limited world view and even more limited experiences do not represent the greater world or even your whole state let alone the country. You really have no idea what some people have to go through to exercise the rights you take for granted. Snowflakes. Fucking fuck.
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Post by kadee79 on Jun 12, 2019 23:43:06 GMT -5
In the past, I've had to wait in line for 2 hrs. to vote...and that was in a little tiny burg way down here in SW Ga. I live in a different polling place area now & it's just down the road from me...I can look down & see if it's busy or not. Our polls are open 7am to 7pm....but transportation is often a problem for many in this area.
And when I had to wait in line that 2 hrs. to vote...my commute to/from work was at least 45 min....so 3 hrs. would be cutting it close in that case.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 12, 2019 23:47:10 GMT -5
Is this just another way to appease 'snowflakes'? I graduated college and began working in 1963. Never missed an election. In AZ the polls are open from 6:00A to 7:00P, that's 4 hours before/after a workday - how long does it take for today's workers to vote? And did they really need legislation to manage this? You never heard of working 12 hour shifts? Never heard of people working TWO jobs?
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Post by dondub on Jun 13, 2019 0:18:14 GMT -5
Clueless dolt time although he is in the party of voter suppression, opposition to motor/voter registration, culling legitimate voters to steal elections etc. so maybe just deviously sated on their success so why spoil it by making it easy for people that aren’t him.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 13, 2019 6:45:38 GMT -5
Omaha shut down a lot of voting sites making it hard for people who rely on public transportation to vote. They also changed a lot of the hours leaving people who can't get time off unable to get to the polls before they close.
I suppose they could walk up hill both ways in the snow and risk termination from their jobs because they should have a six month EF and be one of the approved board careers which means a new job in minutes.
Strangely enough all these polls were in areas with large minority and lower income voters.
I'm sure it's just them being snowflakes. This country has no history at all of trying to suppress voting and using whatever legal means they can to do so.
Read your history people. If they did make it a national holiday the very people they are trying to suppress would have the opportunity to vote. We can't have that.
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Post by resolution on Jun 13, 2019 7:31:54 GMT -5
Maricopa County Arizona (Phoenix area) closed 140 polling places for the 2016 elections, which resulted in wait times of up to 5 hours in minority areas.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 13, 2019 7:43:22 GMT -5
June 20197New York Time off to Vote
Effective as of April 12, 2019, employees who are registered voters may, without loss of pay for up to three hours, take time off from work in order to vote at any election. The employee shall be allowed time off for voting only at the beginning or end of his or her working shift, as the employer may designate, unless otherwise mutually agreed. If the employee requires time off to vote, the employee must notify his or her employer not less than two working days before the day of the election that he or she requires such time off. Not less than 10 working days before every election, the employer must post conspicuously in the workplace where it can be seen as employees come or go to their place of work, a notice setting forth the provisions of this law. Such notice must be kept posted until the close of the polls on the day of an election (Ch. 55 (S. 1505-C), enacted and effective April 12, 2019). link Trend? My state is all mail in ballots but will other states follow New York? I'm in favor of this as an alternative, NOT in addition to, early voting. We need to return to the concept of "Election Day"- with the only exception being absentee ballots for Active Duty Military & Active Reservists who cannot be present on election day due to official duty. Everyone else- get there, or you can't vote. You don't get to mail in a ballot because you're going to be on a cruise that day, or because you took a job in another state (or country).
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Post by oped on Jun 13, 2019 7:50:18 GMT -5
Actually I’d rather go all mail in. My sister is in Washington State and notonly is it easy, but paper trail buddy.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 13, 2019 8:10:19 GMT -5
Actually I’d rather go all mail in. My sister is in Washington State and notonly is it easy, but paper trail buddy. Why? So bins of ballots can go 'missing' in a shredder while 'replacement' ballots filled out elsewhere can take their place. No, thank you. I'd rather return to a hacker-proof paper ballot and a single election day with mail in ballots reserved for those serving our country who cannot physically be there as a result of their official duties. Everyone else, prioritize voting- or you don't get to vote.
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Post by bean29 on Jun 13, 2019 10:39:47 GMT -5
Is this just another way to appease 'snowflakes'? I graduated college and began working in 1963. Never missed an election. In AZ the polls are open from 6:00A to 7:00P, that's 4 hours before/after a workday - how long does it take for today's workers to vote? And did they really need legislation to manage this? Seriously? You are fucking obtuse. Anecdotes of your limited world view and even more limited experiences do not represent the greater world or even your whole state let alone the country. You really have no idea what some people have to go through to exercise the rights you take for granted. Snowflakes. Fucking fuck. Yep, I leave home about 7:30 am and normally don't get home again until about 7:30 pm. I had one job where the employer totally dictated my hours, and they would not adjust my mandatory overtime schedule so I could attend Parent Teacher Conferences/Open House during hours that were normally outside my core scheduled work hours of 8:30 am to 5 pm, and also refused to grant me a vacation PTO day beyond one day to travel to an out of state funeral. DH had to drive us there and back (At least 7 hours round trip) the same day. I had available Vacation and PTO which they had to pre-approve and would not approve. I don't recall having issues to vote, but either corporate did not let my B of a Boss mess with that, or I was able to manage it. I know I really have felt sympathy for lower end workers in my current position. My employer has a commitment to civic duty? So it has not been an issue even though my workload sometimes presents a conflict, I just need to tell myself 1) My employer will understand and 2) My priority needs to be voting...but if you finances are tight, and your job might be at risk if your employer doesn't feel voting should be a priority, you might need to put your continued employment first. I support this law. If someone wants to make life difficult, there are too many ways to do it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 13, 2019 11:47:23 GMT -5
Maricopa County Arizona (Phoenix area) closed 140 polling places for the 2016 elections, which resulted in wait times of up to 5 hours in minority areas. this is how the GOP plans on winning elections.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 13, 2019 11:50:39 GMT -5
is it really that hard to make voting on weekends?
I mean, wtf.
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Post by hurley1980 on Jun 13, 2019 11:52:56 GMT -5
I am all for a national holiday. Even weekends would be hard for some people.
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Post by oped on Jun 13, 2019 11:54:45 GMT -5
is it really that hard to make voting on weekends? I mean, wtf. Some people work weekends too but it might work, 2 day event?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 13, 2019 11:57:09 GMT -5
is it really that hard to make voting on weekends? I mean, wtf. Some people work weekends too but it might work, 2 day event? that is exactly what I meant. orthodox Jews don't do shit on Saturday, orthodox Christians don't do shit on Sunday. so, take the whole weekend. throw in Monday, too, if you like. put elections on FLAG DAY or some such bullshit. hell, even I would celebrate that.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 13, 2019 12:07:00 GMT -5
Many countries have a holiday on election day. Why? To encourage voting, what a novel and democratic idea. I can understand why our rightist friends would be terrified of it! Can you imagine all of those pseudo-socialist vermin that are in favor of more equitable wealth distribution actually participating in decision making? Why it is enough to give them the vapors, poor dears! I said I'm in favor of it. I like the idea of getting back to a day where we have an election called--- wait for it--- "Election Day". And I'm fine with making every accommodation we can to ensure people can vote on that day-- and in a non-hackable way.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 13, 2019 12:07:58 GMT -5
is it really that hard to make voting on weekends? I mean, wtf. Some people work weekends too but it might work, 2 day event? I could go two days- maybe three. The point is that an election should be an event, not a six month long circus.
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Post by hurley1980 on Jun 13, 2019 13:01:05 GMT -5
Yes, I think if its the entire weekend, that would work. I have a friend who is a restaurant manager who regularly pulls doubles on Saturdays, I was just thinking about him. But we are in California. A lot of people here mail it in if they can.
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Post by phil5185 on Jun 13, 2019 13:03:08 GMT -5
""You never heard of working 12 hour shifts? Never heard of people working TWO jobs? Some people work weekends too but it might work, 2 day event?
I am all for a national holiday. Even weekends would be hard for some people."""
Interesting - Dems immediately make a list of why they CAN'T do something. And Repubs list how they CAN do something.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 13, 2019 13:12:09 GMT -5
Dems think about all kinds of people and workers and jobs and situations. Reps think about the people they want voting, and conveniently forget others exist.
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Post by oped on Jun 13, 2019 13:17:03 GMT -5
White males wondering why the systemically oppressed don’t just do something....
Be careful what you wish for...
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Post by resolution on Jun 13, 2019 13:21:48 GMT -5
""You never heard of working 12 hour shifts? Never heard of people working TWO jobs? Some people work weekends too but it might work, 2 day event?
I am all for a national holiday. Even weekends would be hard for some people."""
Interesting - Dems immediately make a list of why they CAN'T do something. And Repubs list how they CAN do something.
Republicans did a pretty effective job at creating 5 hour wait times in minority areas.
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