Want To Go To Cuba?

[weltschmerz]

Forget it!


The US announced major new restrictions on US citizens traveling to Cuba on Tuesday, blocking the most common way Americans are able to visit the island -- through organized tour groups that license US citizens to travel automatically -- and banning US cruise ships from stopping in the country.

www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/us-cuba-travel-restrictions/index.html

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I mean it worked so well the last time we did this for decades.

[weltschmerz]

On Cuba and elsewhere, his bullying style, ostentatiously devoid of diplomatic niceties, pleases his most devout followers, but so far it doesn't seem to be achieving much of anything. That's because too often it appears to be motivated by his emotion-driven impulses, like those of an insecure child, pushing and menacing real and perceived foes, rather than examining causes and setting a smart course of action.
Like the threats against Mexico, the move against Cuba also punishes Americans. US consumers will have to pay for any tariffs imposed on Mexican imports, and US citizens are the ones who will no longer be allowed to travel to Cuba. To punish Cuba for its lack of freedom, Trump is restricting the freedom of Americans to travel there.

www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/opinions/trump-new-cuba-regulations-ghitis/index.html

[weltschmerz]

The Trump administration has canceled a deal between Major League Baseball and the Cuban Baseball Federation to allow Cuban players to play in the United States. CNN's Patrick Oppmann reports.

www.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/04/09/cuba-baseball-trump-oppmann-lkl-vpx.cnn

He's only against Cuba because Obama was for it. If Obama did it,Trump will undo it.  He's a petty, petty, little man.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Also Trump is stuck in a time warp, he can't move past the "good old days" when Cubans were the enemy, women and minorities knew their place and leaded gas filled the air with the smell of freedom.

[Deleted]

WTH?  Why must we pick fights withe everyone?    That was going to be my next cruise.  Probably not for years because I don't exactly have the funds, but I was so excited when they started allowing it and put it on my "list". 

[justme]

Not that I think we should have done this, but sooo many people stupidly didn't take what was released in April as the starting point. If I had a Cuba cruise that I could still cancel penalty free when they first announced stuff I would have canceled. 

He's also pissed off several huge companies that are going to have to lose some money to compensate their passengers. 

[kadee79]

Wonder if Rubio had any influence on this?

[justme]

Possibly, but I think it was more trying to court voters in a state that often decides the election. But Miami is almost always blue anyways, not sure this would make it turn.

[happyhoix]

Has anyone from the WH explained why they did it?

It's not like Cuba will collapse without the American tourist dollars.  The largest number of visitors are Canadian, second largest is European.

[weltschmerz]

Jun 5, 2019 15:47:45 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Has anyone from the WH explained why they did it?

It's not like Cuba will collapse without the American tourist dollars.  The largest number of visitors are Canadian, second largest is European.

To stick it to Obama. He's petty like that.

[happyhoix]

Jun 5, 2019 15:55:55 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 5, 2019 15:47:45 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Has anyone from the WH explained why they did it?

It's not like Cuba will collapse without the American tourist dollars.  The largest number of visitors are Canadian, second largest is European.

To stick it to Obama. He's petty like that.

He's got a lot of people living in his head, doesn't he.

Obama, Clinton, McCain.

[justme]

Jun 5, 2019 15:55:55 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 5, 2019 15:47:45 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Has anyone from the WH explained why they did it?

It's not like Cuba will collapse without the American tourist dollars.  The largest number of visitors are Canadian, second largest is European.

To stick it to Obama. He's petty like that.

I do think trying to court the Cuban American vote in Miami is part of it. Maybe more forefront in his team over him, but Florida is a must win and he barely won. And all the 2018 races were razor thin.

[Value Buy]

Jun 4, 2019 12:41:52 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Forget it!


The US announced major new restrictions on US citizens traveling to Cuba on Tuesday, blocking the most common way Americans are able to visit the island -- through organized tour groups that license US citizens to travel automatically -- and banning US cruise ships from stopping in the country.

www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/us-cuba-travel-restrictions/index.html

I read your link.
I  noticed he did not stop airline travel to Cuba.
This is where people go there for more than a three hour lay over where tourists spend money for three hours walking dilapidated streets.
The air flights allow people to go back visit family conduct business etc.
Ifhe wanted to really hurt Cuba airflights would have been stopped.
Now people will simply have totake a cruse from a Canadian port. A win for you!

[weltschmerz]

Jun 6, 2019 8:56:57 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 4, 2019 12:41:52 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Forget it!


The US announced major new restrictions on US citizens traveling to Cuba on Tuesday, blocking the most common way Americans are able to visit the island -- through organized tour groups that license US citizens to travel automatically -- and banning US cruise ships from stopping in the country.

www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/us-cuba-travel-restrictions/index.html

I read your link.
I  noticed he did not stop airline travel to Cuba.
This is where people go there for more than a three hour lay over where tourists spend money for three hours walking dilapidated streets.
The air flights allow people to go back visit family conduct business etc.
Ifhe wanted to really hurt Cuba airflights would have been stopped.
Now people will simply have totake a cruse from a Canadian port. A win for you!

Family.
Ordinary citizens can't go, book a hotel on the beach for a week and wander around, enjoying the beaches, nightlife and sights.  Cuba is communist, you know.
That being said, China is also communist. Funny how American tourists are still allowed to visit.

[justme]

Jun 6, 2019 12:09:28 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 6, 2019 8:56:57 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

I read your link.
I  noticed he did not stop airline travel to Cuba.
This is where people go there for more than a three hour lay over where tourists spend money for three hours walking dilapidated streets.
The air flights allow people to go back visit family conduct business etc.
Ifhe wanted to really hurt Cuba airflights would have been stopped.
Now people will simply have totake a cruse from a Canadian port. A win for you!

Family.
Ordinary citizens can't go, book a hotel on the beach for a week and wander around, enjoying the beaches, nightlife and sights.  Cuba is communist, you know.
That being said, China is also communist. Funny how American tourists are still allowed to visit.

To be fair, US citizens couldn't do this for the few years the ban was temporarily lifted. Didn't satisfy one of the few reasons allowed to visit.