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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 31, 2019 12:59:34 GMT -5
Many of you know I have had profound hearing loss my whole life. Therefore music held no importance in my life. From what I understand, most people cannot fathom this.
That said, now that I have cochlear implants, I do listen to music. I tried different types to listen to while I am working. Classical made me want to stab someone which surprised me. I like jazz but not when I am working. I hit on classic rock for work music. This genre is what I remember people around me growing up listening to.
The longer I listen, the quicker I pick up on specific artists. One that really stands out is Elvis. His voice is so distinctive. I got to pondering the fact that I have no understanding of the complete fanaticism that occurred when he played live.
Can those to whom music culture is deeply rooted please explain this phenomenon? I do understand that music stirs emotions, particular times and places, but I can't comprehend the depth with which it moves people to tears, screaming, and fainting when attending live events. What comes to mind is images of fans at concerts.
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Post by busymom on May 31, 2019 13:21:50 GMT -5
JMHO, but I believe music is connected to emotion. For myself, certain songs can trigger certain memories. My Mom's favorite songs while I was growing up, music that I really enjoyed (I was a kid when the Beatles were popular, and in junior high when Chicago was moving up the charts.) Different songs make me feel differently. Fast tempos work best for me when exercising, and after a rough day, I might want to listen to something slow-paced and mellow. As you can tell, I listen to a wide variety of music, everything from Broadway show tunes, to classical, to whatever is playing on the radio right now. I recommend listening to a wide variety of music styles, and see what "speaks" to you personally. (For me, I never did get into opera.)
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Post by swamp on May 31, 2019 13:22:16 GMT -5
Many of you know I have had profound hearing loss my whole life. Therefore music held no importance in my life. From what I understand, most people cannot fathom this. That said, now that I have cochlear implants, I do listen to music. I tried different types to listen to while I am working. Classical made me want to stab someone which surprised me. I like jazz but not when I am working. I hit on classic rock for work music. This genre is what I remember people around me growing up listening to. The longer I listen, the quicker I pick up on specific artists. One that really stands out is Elvis. His voice is so distinctive. I got to pondering the fact that I have no understanding of the complete fanaticism that occurred when he played live. Can those to whom music culture is deeply rooted please explain this phenomenon? I do understand that music stirs emotions, particular times and places, but I can't comprehend the depth with which it moves people to tears, screaming, and fainting when attending live events. What comes to mind is images of fans at concerts.I love music and certain songs will bring out strong emotions and memories, but I don't get it either. I've gone to plenty of live concerts. I've cheered, sang, along, danced, and thoroughly enjoyed myself, but I can't say I've ever cried or fainted. I've even had my hand touched by Vince Neil, spit on by Jon Bon Jovi while he was singing, and caught a guitar pick from Nita Strauss (Alice Cooper's guitarist), but other than thinking it was cool, meh.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 31, 2019 13:22:41 GMT -5
Being a hormonal tween (word didn't exist then) of 12 when the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan in 1964, I didn't understand what the music and the sight of those four men made me feel. I would scream listening to their music. Happy screams of pure joy and delight.
That is what music has brought me, at least the music from my teenage years.
My musical taste matured when I was in college and I got into music like Crosby, Stills and Nash and political music. While I no longer scream at live concerts, music makes me both cry and feel great joy,
Had I seen the Beatles as a teenager, I'm sure I would have fainted. But I didn't see the Beatles in their prime. Seeing either Paul McCartney or Ringo Starr has never made me faint--I have only felt faint when I was already sick before walking in to the concert.
Let It Be makes me cry almost every time I hear it, whether live or on CD or the radio. I truly believe that song saved my life.
For me, so much of it is memories that stir my emotions.
I can't explain Elvis. His popularity was before my time and I find him too weird to have positive feelings about him, especially after visiting Graceland.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 31, 2019 13:25:31 GMT -5
JMHO, but I believe music is connected to emotion. For myself, certain songs can trigger certain memories. My Mom's favorite songs while I was growing up, music that I really enjoyed (I was a kid when the Beatles were popular, and in junior high when Chicago was moving up the charts.) Different songs make me feel differently. Fast tempos work best for me when exercising, and after a rough day, I might want to listen to something slow-paced and mellow. As you can tell, I listen to a wide variety of music, everything from Broadway show tunes, to classical, to whatever is playing on the radio right now. I recommend listening to a wide variety of music styles, and see what "speaks" to you personally. (For me, I never did get into opera.) That is just the thing. Music doesn't "speak" to me. It is something I can actually live without. I am mid-50s now, and I don't believe it will ever do so the way it does with people who have had it in their lives from a very young age. I am trying to comprehend how music causes such depth of emotion. It may be that no one can really answer what seems to me is intangible.
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Post by swamp on May 31, 2019 13:27:01 GMT -5
JMHO, but I believe music is connected to emotion. For myself, certain songs can trigger certain memories. My Mom's favorite songs while I was growing up, music that I really enjoyed (I was a kid when the Beatles were popular, and in junior high when Chicago was moving up the charts.) Different songs make me feel differently. Fast tempos work best for me when exercising, and after a rough day, I might want to listen to something slow-paced and mellow. As you can tell, I listen to a wide variety of music, everything from Broadway show tunes, to classical, to whatever is playing on the radio right now. I recommend listening to a wide variety of music styles, and see what "speaks" to you personally. (For me, I never did get into opera.) My mom played Neil Diamond when cleaning. Sweet Caroline makes we want to vacuum.
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Post by swamp on May 31, 2019 13:29:51 GMT -5
JMHO, but I believe music is connected to emotion. For myself, certain songs can trigger certain memories. My Mom's favorite songs while I was growing up, music that I really enjoyed (I was a kid when the Beatles were popular, and in junior high when Chicago was moving up the charts.) Different songs make me feel differently. Fast tempos work best for me when exercising, and after a rough day, I might want to listen to something slow-paced and mellow. As you can tell, I listen to a wide variety of music, everything from Broadway show tunes, to classical, to whatever is playing on the radio right now. I recommend listening to a wide variety of music styles, and see what "speaks" to you personally. (For me, I never did get into opera.) That is just the thing. Music doesn't "speak" to me. It is something I can actually live without. I am mid-50s now, and I don't believe it will ever do so the way it does with people who have had it in their lives from a very young age. I am trying to comprehend how music causes such depth of emotion. It may be that no one can really answer what seems to me is intangible. You know how movies have soundtracks and the music playing is supposed to influence your mood and perceptions of the movie? Certain songs are on my soundtrack.
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Post by souldoubt on May 31, 2019 13:32:17 GMT -5
The same reason sporting events, political events, religious events and so on can bring some people to tears or make them emotional. There's no one size fits all answer because two people who are brought to tears or get emotional over an event may do so for different reasons. Certain songs take me back to different times in my life instantly just like certain sounds, smells, images and places. I always remember getting home when summer started one year in grade school and the Golden Grahams cereal commercial came on with Happy Together by The Turtles. Any time I hear that song I connect it with that memory of just getting out of school and being excited for summer. I've never cried because of a song but there's definitely certain songs that stir different emotions because of the context (first baseball game after 9/11 National Anthem) or that I connect with different times, people and memories from my life. I can be coming home from a long day and a song comes on that reminds me of someone whose passed away, friends I've lost contact with, the first girl I ever loved, experiences with friends and so on. I enjoy music but wasn't into it as much as some of my friends while for them it has more meaning both good and bad.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on May 31, 2019 13:35:36 GMT -5
I grew up listening to all kinds of music and I never got the fanaticism that some people felt about watching a performance, either live or on tv/video. My younger sister watched the Beatles when they were first on the Ed Sullivan show and screamed and almost fainted. My older sister was all about Elvis. While I love music, especially certain artists, I just don’t get that outpouring of emotion. I go to concerts by my faves (CSN, Foreigner, etc.), I don’t get crazy.
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Post by steff on May 31, 2019 13:37:41 GMT -5
Growing up in an abusive home, music was an escape. It was my safe space. It could express my anger, sadness, fears, happiness, & joy for me. When I would be angry but knew that I had no outlet for it, music expressed that anger for me. When I needed a hug & to feel love, music wrapped me in its arms & comforted me. When I needed to cry, I could let it go thru the music instead of falling down a hole of self pity.
and to cover the negative side, I can still tell you the songs that are the soundtracks to horrible events or certain abusive nights. One brother & I have the same screaming reaction to Southern Cross by Crosby, Stills and Nash. It was the soundtrack to one of the worst nights of our lives. We will nearly hurt people to change the radio station if that song comes on. I don't know that either of us have ever listened to the song in its entirety since that 1 night. My mom however, doesn't even remember that the song was playing on an eternal loop that night. It was a 90 minute cassette with that 1 song over and over and over on both sides.
Music was always playing when I was a child. Sunday was Elvis day for my mom. To this day, she plays Elvis on Sunday mornings. I can tell you the 1st song I remember ever hearing. It was Maggie May by Rod Stewart. I was about 4, laying on giant pillows on the floor under giant 70's headphones listening to my mom's reel to reel. Music triggers bad and many good memories. Whenever my brother hears Welcome to the Jungle it reminds him of a night he got to tag around with my bff & I when he was little. For him, that song is the soundtrack of that fun night when he got to be part of the party.
for me, it was a safe space, it was my voice, it was my comfort, and at times, I feel like it saved me because it gave me an outlet to voice what I couldn't on my own.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 31, 2019 13:44:22 GMT -5
Growing up in an abusive home, music was an escape. It was my safe space. It could express my anger, sadness, fears, happiness, & joy for me. When I would be angry but knew that I had no outlet for it, music expressed that anger for me. When I needed a hug & to feel love, music wrapped me in its arms & comforted me. When I needed to cry, I could let it go thru the music instead of falling down a hole of self pity.
and to cover the negative side, I can still tell you the songs that are the soundtracks to horrible events or certain abusive nights. One brother & I have the same screaming reaction to Southern Cross by Crosby, Stills and Nash. It was the soundtrack to one of the worst nights of our lives. We will nearly hurt people to change the radio station if that song comes on. I don't know that either of us have ever listened to the song in its entirety since that 1 night. My mom however, doesn't even remember that the song was playing on an eternal loop that night. It was a 90 minute cassette with that 1 song over and over and over on both sides.
Music was always playing when I was a child. Sunday was Elvis day for my mom. To this day, she plays Elvis on Sunday mornings. I can tell you the 1st song I remember ever hearing. It was Maggie May by Rod Stewart. I was about 4, laying on giant pillows on the floor under giant 70's headphones listening to my mom's reel to reel. Music triggers bad and many good memories. Whenever my brother hears Welcome to the Jungle it reminds him of a night he got to tag around with my bff & I when he was little. For him, that song is the soundtrack of that fun night when he got to be part of the party.
for me, it was a safe space, it was my voice, it was my comfort, and at times, I feel like it saved me because it gave me an outlet to voice what I couldn't on my own.
Wow, I am amazed at the multiple facets of how music has affected you!
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Post by NastyWoman on May 31, 2019 13:48:11 GMT -5
JMHO, but I believe music is connected to emotion. For myself, certain songs can trigger certain memories. My Mom's favorite songs while I was growing up, music that I really enjoyed (I was a kid when the Beatles were popular, and in junior high when Chicago was moving up the charts.) Different songs make me feel differently. Fast tempos work best for me when exercising, and after a rough day, I might want to listen to something slow-paced and mellow. As you can tell, I listen to a wide variety of music, everything from Broadway show tunes, to classical, to whatever is playing on the radio right now. I recommend listening to a wide variety of music styles, and see what "speaks" to you personally. (For me, I never did get into opera.) My mom played Neil Diamond when cleaning. Sweet Caroline makes we want to vacuum. oooohhhhhh! I see possibilities --- come to my home and I will play Sweet Caroline on a loop. Will provide wine and cheese and all kind of other goodies after the loop gets interupted
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 31, 2019 13:54:18 GMT -5
For me certain songs trigger memories. "Need to know" by Hoobastank reminds me of when DH and I started dating. I still dance to Step by Step by New Kids on the Block, which was my first ever cassette tape. Madonna's Like a Virgin was my second. Salt n'Peppa was my third. It also evokes emotions. I cannot listen to "Happy" by Blue October and remain in a bad mood. Other songs of theirs are a release because I can relate to the lyrics. They are coming back to Omaha and I am hoping it's on a Saturday so I can go. I can't say I am really a fanatic about any music though Blue October comes close. I do find certain singers sexy or sexy when they sing certain songs. Justin Timberlake is HOT in the "Sexy Back" video, I can't say that I wouldn't start screaming if I watched him perform it live.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 14:00:25 GMT -5
Well, I think a lot of the fanatic crying/fainting behavior is more about lusting after the artist than anything.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 31, 2019 14:04:35 GMT -5
I have found that I cannot stand Madonna's voice. For the most part, I am unable to connect a song to an artist/band, so when I hear something that puts me on edge, I check who is singing. Madonna always ends up getting skipped.
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Post by Pants on May 31, 2019 14:09:01 GMT -5
I think some people just react emotionally to music. For others of us it's tied up in times and places and memories.
I remember my mom's cousin's boyfriend singing me "Love of the Common people" and trying to make me eat fish-eye soup. (He was Jamaican.) I still love that song. I remember being 12 and riding in a car with my mom in the throes of a crazy crush and a love song coming on and me really actually "getting it" for the first time. I don't remember what the song was, but I remember all of a sudden I just went "Oh. OH." I remember listening to Rubber Soul and The Big Chill soundtracks back and forth across the country on roadtrips with my parents. I can sing every word to every song. I remember a dozen songs of yearning and breaking up in high school and college and the way that it would just make me feel like I wasn't alone.
But my emotional connection is all memories of various kinds.
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Post by giramomma on May 31, 2019 14:09:54 GMT -5
I'm a classically trained musician. So, to quote Detective Pikachu "I feel it in my jellies." Listening to it, though, vs playing it are two different things for me. Listening depends on how well I know the piece. If I know it well, I listen differently than if I don't. Usually if I have music on at work or whatever, I tune it out. Which is weird. I do that to books on tape, too.
Playing in a group, when it's going super well, is simply electric. The smaller the group...it's a really intimate experience...and the only thing to equate it to is sex.
There's a few songs that do get me more emotional...but for personal reasons. I imagine Post Malone's "Better Now" is something DH would say to me..and it makes me feel better. Similarly, Kesha's Prayin' reflects how I feel about DH a fair amount. And I cry when I hear it. I also cry when I hear Bridge over Troubled Water.
But, otherwise I'm pretty meh on pop culture. Even when I was in Jr. High, and my fellow students were walking around with teen beat clutched in their hands drooling over singer and actors/actresses I thought they were being kinda stupid.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on May 31, 2019 14:24:57 GMT -5
I don't think I have the writing skills to explain it. Some people have done pretty well already. My dad's a musician, I grew up listening to all kinds of stuff. I was in my early teens before I really got the concept that not everyone knew all the words to Hotel California since birth I've used music to get anger out of my system, to put me in a better mood, to wallow in whatever was making me sad (I have to really watch that one now, no sad music for sad moods, it'll make me worse). I can appreciate skills without something being my favorite, but will listen to my favorites until everyone around me is sick to death of it. Thank goodness for headphones. For me, there's nothing better than seeing a favorite live, but I've never passed out at a concert. Done a lot of screaming, singing, dancing...but no passing out. You miss stuff if you do that.
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Post by swamp on May 31, 2019 14:28:20 GMT -5
I don't think I have the writing skills to explain it. Some people have done pretty well already. My dad's a musician, I grew up listening to all kinds of stuff. I was in my early teens before I really got the concept that not everyone knew all the words to Hotel California since birth I've used music to get anger out of my system, to put me in a better mood, to wallow in whatever was making me sad (I have to really watch that one now, no sad music for sad moods, it'll make me worse). I can appreciate skills without something being my favorite, but will listen to my favorites until everyone around me is sick to death of it. Thank goodness for headphones. For me, there's nothing better than seeing a favorite live, but I've never passed out at a concert. Done a lot of screaming, singing, dancing...but no passing out. You miss stuff if you do that. Welcome to the Jungle is the best for getting anger out.
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Post by swamp on May 31, 2019 14:31:21 GMT -5
For me certain songs trigger memories. "Need to know" by Hoobastank reminds me of when DH and I started dating. I still dance to Step by Step by New Kids on the Block, which was my first ever cassette tape. Madonna's Like a Virgin was my second. Salt n'Peppa was my third. It also evokes emotions. I cannot listen to "Happy" by Blue October and remain in a bad mood. Other songs of theirs are a release because I can relate to the lyrics. They are coming back to Omaha and I am hoping it's on a Saturday so I can go. I can't say I am really a fanatic about any music though Blue October comes close. I do find certain singers sexy or sexy when they sing certain songs. Justin Timberlake is HOT in the "Sexy Back" video, I can't say that I wouldn't start screaming if I watched him perform it live. I happened to see a Youtube video of Robert Plant singing The Immigrant song back when he was about 19 years old. OMG. So hot. And Zepplin isn't even in the list of my top 50 bands.
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Post by Pants on May 31, 2019 14:44:13 GMT -5
For me certain songs trigger memories. "Need to know" by Hoobastank reminds me of when DH and I started dating. I still dance to Step by Step by New Kids on the Block, which was my first ever cassette tape. Madonna's Like a Virgin was my second. Salt n'Peppa was my third. It also evokes emotions. I cannot listen to "Happy" by Blue October and remain in a bad mood. Other songs of theirs are a release because I can relate to the lyrics. They are coming back to Omaha and I am hoping it's on a Saturday so I can go. I can't say I am really a fanatic about any music though Blue October comes close. I do find certain singers sexy or sexy when they sing certain songs. Justin Timberlake is HOT in the "Sexy Back" video, I can't say that I wouldn't start screaming if I watched him perform it live. I happened to see a Youtube video of Robert Plant singing The Immigrant song back when he was about 19 years old. OMG. So hot. And Zepplin isn't even in the list of my top 50 bands. Please to send me this video. For research purposes.
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Post by Pants on May 31, 2019 14:46:00 GMT -5
I don't think I have the writing skills to explain it. Some people have done pretty well already. My dad's a musician, I grew up listening to all kinds of stuff. I was in my early teens before I really got the concept that not everyone knew all the words to Hotel California since birth I've used music to get anger out of my system, to put me in a better mood, to wallow in whatever was making me sad (I have to really watch that one now, no sad music for sad moods, it'll make me worse). I can appreciate skills without something being my favorite, but will listen to my favorites until everyone around me is sick to death of it. Thank goodness for headphones. For me, there's nothing better than seeing a favorite live, but I've never passed out at a concert. Done a lot of screaming, singing, dancing...but no passing out. You miss stuff if you do that. Welcome to the Jungle is the best for getting anger out. Welcome to the jungle isn't an angry song for me? It's more like... raucous joy and youthful immaturity? Immigrant song is a rage song though. I think it's the abundance of just straight screaming.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on May 31, 2019 14:52:45 GMT -5
Music has been my escape, hobby, and lifesaver since childhood. And, like others, no fainting, etc.. However, I'm still a fairly good headbanger for a "middle-ager", and can hold my own up front near the pit.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 31, 2019 14:54:47 GMT -5
Welcome to the Jungle is the best for getting anger out. Welcome to the jungle isn't an angry song for me? It's more like... raucous joy and youthful immaturity? Immigrant song is a rage song though. I think it's the abundance of just straight screaming. That sounds like it is pretty hideous. That doesn't sound like music, but more like just noise.
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Post by Opti on May 31, 2019 15:03:34 GMT -5
Many of you know I have had profound hearing loss my whole life. Therefore music held no importance in my life. From what I understand, most people cannot fathom this. That said, now that I have cochlear implants, I do listen to music. I tried different types to listen to while I am working. Classical made me want to stab someone which surprised me. I like jazz but not when I am working. I hit on classic rock for work music. This genre is what I remember people around me growing up listening to. The longer I listen, the quicker I pick up on specific artists. One that really stands out is Elvis. His voice is so distinctive. I got to pondering the fact that I have no understanding of the complete fanaticism that occurred when he played live. Can those to whom music culture is deeply rooted please explain this phenomenon? I do understand that music stirs emotions, particular times and places, but I can't comprehend the depth with which it moves people to tears, screaming, and fainting when attending live events. What comes to mind is images of fans at concerts. I can fathom music not being important to you due to profound hearing loss. I am wondering what kind of classical music you are listening to, because there are so many kinds. Its like hating hard rock and deciding all rock music makes you stabby. My Mom believed strongly in education and music. Those were huge priorities for her so I learned piano, cello, and sang in a choir all before I was in fifth grade. It is part of me, but I don't always have the radio on at home, as an example. Music can be like food, evoking emotions or times in our lives. For me as a performer, and even as a listener it is about the song itself - what it means to me and what emotions or feelings I feel when hearing or singing it. I was blessed with a very good musical education through school, church, and through youth orchestra. Watching Bohemian Rhapsody the movie for example, brought back memories of my Mom and that time of my life. Me and my two best friends used to sing three part harmony to Queen songs, which apparently was one of my Mom's favorite memories. So listening to Queen now reminds me of my deceased Mom and also good memories of friends and music. P.S. I prefer early classical music like Bach, etc. although I have a few later pieces I like. Most of it is because I played it or performed something similar. In my everyday life I mostly listen to rock and pop.
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Post by Opti on May 31, 2019 15:05:08 GMT -5
I think also, various people bring certain music into your life. I like Blue Oyster Cult because I was introduced to it in HS math class.
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Post by Opti on May 31, 2019 15:13:36 GMT -5
I'm a classically trained musician. So, to quote Detective Pikachu "I feel it in my jellies." Listening to it, though, vs playing it are two different things for me. Listening depends on how well I know the piece. If I know it well, I listen differently than if I don't. Usually if I have music on at work or whatever, I tune it out. Which is weird. I do that to books on tape, too.
Playing in a group, when it's going super well, is simply electric. The smaller the group...it's a really intimate experience...and the only thing to equate it to is sex.
There's a few songs that do get me more emotional...but for personal reasons. I imagine Post Malone's "Better Now" is something DH would say to me..and it makes me feel better. Similarly, Kesha's Prayin' reflects how I feel about DH a fair amount. And I cry when I hear it. I also cry when I hear Bridge over Troubled Water.
But, otherwise I'm pretty meh on pop culture. Even when I was in Jr. High, and my fellow students were walking around with teen beat clutched in their hands drooling over singer and actors/actresses I thought they were being kinda stupid.
First, I am jealous you have already seen Detective Pikachu. Good point about listening to it different if you have performed it. I also am impressed by certain things too if I know hard it is to do well. The cello has a 5 octave range. Playing that last octave close to bridge well is extremely difficult and shows amazing talent and practice. I do remember a time when the cello section was cheering on a cellist playing a violin part a young violinist was playing. The non cellists were raving over the young violinist. The cellists were, raving over the cellist because it was a master level performance.
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Post by giramomma on May 31, 2019 15:13:53 GMT -5
Welcome to the Jungle is the best for getting anger out. I prefer OffSpring's Americana album.
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