swamp
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Post by swamp on May 20, 2019 10:31:04 GMT -5
Sort of like how you qualify for an annulment? You give a big enough donation, and your marriage was always a sham, never mind that it lasted 20 years, you had several kids, and you taught Pre Cana classes? There is a Deacon at my Mom's church that had a 6-8 kids, taught Pre Cana classes, performed marriages, and got divorced after all his kids were grown. Imho, he is no less entitled to a divorce than I was. If it is not working out, you should be miserable to your dying day? I told my Mom that I did not know what his marriage was like, and I was in no place to judge, but I thought his wife was a f'ing B.
Look at it this way, if he is entitled to move on, then so are the rest of us.
I do agree about the annulment though. The church has a liturgical explanation that sounds entirely valid, but I worked through the annulment process largely b/c I knew it was important to my Mother and my Grandmothers. I found it amazing that as soon as I made the last payment on the annulment, my documents appeared in the mail within a week or two.
I don't care who gets divorced, when or why. I have a problem with the church given out annulments based on financial contributions.
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Wisconsin Beth
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 20, 2019 10:40:09 GMT -5
There's a few people working their way through annulments on a different board I visit. They are not getting annulments based on financial contributions. I know one of them wrote that her former spouse was the one pursuing it. He/She answered truthfully and the board is granting the annulment but has changed the paperwork to show that the former spouse was actually the lying/problem.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 20, 2019 14:20:31 GMT -5
The country where I was born has some interesting history regarding the Spanish Catholic church. They came over and imposed their belief system to the indigenous people, resorting to torture if necessary. After all, these people were inferior and didn't really have a right to anything including life, but I digress. Anyway, one of the things they did in the 1800s was to sell certificates of acceptance to heaven. If you had enough money to afford this, the Catholic church will guarantee admittance to heaven no matter what you did in this earth. I kid you not. Just goes to show there is nothing new under the sun. After all who has not seen a news segment with someone showing up for a game or a concert, only to find out that the tickets they bought on-line are fakes and won't get them into the venue
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Post by Tennesseer on May 20, 2019 19:48:26 GMT -5
The country where I was born has some interesting history regarding the Spanish Catholic church. They came over and imposed their belief system to the indigenous people, resorting to torture if necessary. After all, these people were inferior and didn't really have a right to anything including life, but I digress. Anyway, one of the things they did in the 1800s was to sell certificates of acceptance to heaven. If you had enough money to afford this, the Catholic church will guarantee admittance to heaven no matter what you did in this earth. I kid you not. As a Catholic grammar school kid in the 1950s/60s, while we didn't have to pay to get into heaven, we were told if we went to church on a hole bunch of Fridays during a certain time of year (Lent?), we would get into heaven. So we went. Time will tell if the dkaim/promise was true or false.
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Post by Opti on May 20, 2019 19:50:17 GMT -5
Anyone want one for the low price of $42? (Just kidding, but seems like a business opportunity ...)
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NastyWoman
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Post by NastyWoman on May 20, 2019 20:23:44 GMT -5
The country where I was born has some interesting history regarding the Spanish Catholic church. They came over and imposed their belief system to the indigenous people, resorting to torture if necessary. After all, these people were inferior and didn't really have a right to anything including life, but I digress. Anyway, one of the things they did in the 1800s was to sell certificates of acceptance to heaven. If you had enough money to afford this, the Catholic church will guarantee admittance to heaven no matter what you did in this earth. I kid you not. As a Catholic grammar school kid in the 1950s/60s, while we didn't have to pay to get into heaven, we were told if we went to church on a hole bunch of Fridays during a certain time of year (Lent?), we would get into heaven. So we went. Time will tell if the dkaim/promise was true or false. You had the discount version. During Lent we were supposed to go daily. I don't think I'll manage to go to heaven
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