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Post by happyhoix on Oct 21, 2019 7:38:37 GMT -5
Exactly! VB missed the whole point...." So one little community in any state does not represent an entire state nor does it predict who will win." <<<< As I said in my reply above. Also, in 2016 DT only won the electoral college, he didn't win the popular vote...and more & more are turning away from him every day in this area...which is HIGHLY RED!You missed my whole point in my post. People from all over middle America are now out in the open talking about the disgrace of the democratic party actions and can no longer believe in their party. Florida will not even be close in the Presidential election, and democrats are basically financially broke right now and will have to spend a billion dollars to win the midwest states as well as a few that they won in 2016. It ain't going to happen. Democratic doations to so many candidates running for the nomination have robbed the DNC of money and the money is not going to be there for their nominee to win so many critical states. The finances are going to look like 1964 when the Repuvlicans had Goldwater going against Johnson. It is going to be painful for some people here. Do you have anything to support your claim? Polling data? Some kind of journalistic study? Or are you parroting back what you've heard on Rush or some other far right echo chamber - or taking what you've heard from your middle age white neighbors in Florida and extrapolating that to the entire voting public?
My book club used to be fairly nonpolitical, with a few pro-Trumpers back in 2016. They are now 100% anti-Trump and every book club meeting ends up in a complaint session against Trump and his admin. I would be extremely foolish, however, to imagine that the very rural, very red, very blue collar, very conservative Southern county that I live in has become anti-Trump based only on what my book club says, wouldn't I? It will go pro-Trump in 2020, even if Trump set fire to a pile of babies before then (fake news!).
If we learned nothing else from 2016, we should have learned to never be swaggeringly cocky about how we think elections will go.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 21, 2019 8:38:53 GMT -5
I live in middle America and that's not what I am hearing/seeing/reading. I just read an article in the paper about how now ranchers are getting pissed at Trump over his trade practices and staged a protest. I'm sure all those Nebraskan ranchers are secret democratic plants and the truth will come out eventually. I don't see this unified undying love for Trump that people claim exists out here in the Midwest. There appear to be plenty of dissenters out there who the last time happily voted him. Doubt they could swing Nebraska but you never know.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 21, 2019 9:53:18 GMT -5
I know there are quite a bit of farmers in Iowa angry with Trump too over soybeans and ethanol. Whether they vote for him or not in the next election IDK.
I did read if that urban voters had come out as anticipated that Hillary would have won Iowa in the last election. So us urban voters need to get off our asses this election and vote, even if it means holding your nose to do it.
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 21, 2019 10:05:33 GMT -5
He will use the same playbook. If you don't want to vote for him at least vote against the other person.
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 21, 2019 10:14:37 GMT -5
Exactly! VB missed the whole point...." So one little community in any state does not represent an entire state nor does it predict who will win." <<<< As I said in my reply above. Also, in 2016 DT only won the electoral college, he didn't win the popular vote...and more & more are turning away from him every day in this area...which is HIGHLY RED!You missed my whole point in my post. People from all over middle America are now out in the open talking about the disgrace of the democratic party actions and can no longer believe in their party. Florida will not even be close in the Presidential election, and democrats are basically financially broke right now and will have to spend a billion dollars to win the midwest states as well as a few that they won in 2016. It ain't going to happen. Democratic doations to so many candidates running for the nomination have robbed the DNC of money and the money is not going to be there for their nominee to win so many critical states. The finances are going to look like 1964 when the Repuvlicans had Goldwater going against Johnson. It is going to be painful for some people here. We shall see. I hear a lot of talk about both parties being non-viable for the future. I don't think any of it is true. They will both veer back towards the middle.
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Post by kadee79 on Oct 21, 2019 10:44:14 GMT -5
Exactly! VB missed the whole point...." So one little community in any state does not represent an entire state nor does it predict who will win." <<<< As I said in my reply above. Also, in 2016 DT only won the electoral college, he didn't win the popular vote...and more & more are turning away from him every day in this area...which is HIGHLY RED!You missed my whole point in my post. People from all over middle America are now out in the open talking about the disgrace of the democratic party actions and can no longer believe in their party. Florida will not even be close in the Presidential election, and democrats are basically financially broke right now and will have to spend a billion dollars to win the midwest states as well as a few that they won in 2016. It ain't going to happen. Democratic doations to so many candidates running for the nomination have robbed the DNC of money and the money is not going to be there for their nominee to win so many critical states. The finances are going to look like 1964 when the Repuvlicans had Goldwater going against Johnson. It is going to be painful for some people here. Well, I grew up in middle America in Ill. Still have MANY friends & relatives there...what you are saying is NOT what I'm hearing is being said up there either. As I was trying to point out in my original reply...it all depends on who you listen to. No small group in any part of the country is going to give you a look at the entire country. And I'm seeing & hearing from more & more who are turning away from DT...they can no longer excuse his actions or his constant lies!...and this is from their lips, not mine. So I guess we are just hearing different things. Some of my DH's family down here nearly fainted when they found out I was liberal...they have since changed their tune...can no longer support DT!
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 21, 2019 11:21:38 GMT -5
If memory serves me correctly, you did not believe Trump had a snowball's chance in 2016. Nothing has changed for you. I don't think the point is if Trump can/will win. I think it is that if you are surrounded by Trump supporters you think is win is inevitable and if you are surrounded by progressives, you think his loss is inevitable. Both opinions are wrong. It is hard to "hear" the full spectrum if you are going about your daily business. this is why we have scientific polls. so you can dissect the electorate.
and to anticipate the response from a certain Floridian, the national polls were accurate to 1% in 2016.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 21, 2019 11:23:28 GMT -5
Exactly! VB missed the whole point...." So one little community in any state does not represent an entire state nor does it predict who will win." <<<< As I said in my reply above. Also, in 2016 DT only won the electoral college, he didn't win the popular vote...and more & more are turning away from him every day in this area...which is HIGHLY RED!You missed my whole point in my post. People from all over middle America are now out in the open talking about the disgrace of the democratic party actions and can no longer believe in their party. huh? people out here are saying "it's about time".
I think that is the point that others here are making.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 21, 2019 11:28:08 GMT -5
You missed my whole point in my post. People from all over middle America are now out in the open talking about the disgrace of the democratic party actions and can no longer believe in their party. Florida will not even be close in the Presidential election, and democrats are basically financially broke right now and will have to spend a billion dollars to win the midwest states as well as a few that they won in 2016. It ain't going to happen. Democratic doations to so many candidates running for the nomination have robbed the DNC of money and the money is not going to be there for their nominee to win so many critical states. The finances are going to look like 1964 when the Repuvlicans had Goldwater going against Johnson. It is going to be painful for some people here. Do you have anything to support your claim? Polling data? Some kind of journalistic study? Or are you parroting back what you've heard on Rush or some other far right echo chamber - or taking what you've heard from your middle age white neighbors in Florida and extrapolating that to the entire voting public?
My book club used to be fairly nonpolitical, with a few pro-Trumpers back in 2016. They are now 100% anti-Trump and every book club meeting ends up in a complaint session against Trump and his admin. I would be extremely foolish, however, to imagine that the very rural, very red, very blue collar, very conservative Southern county that I live in has become anti-Trump based only on what my book club says, wouldn't I? It will go pro-Trump in 2020, even if Trump set fire to a pile of babies before then (fake news!).
If we learned nothing else from 2016, we should have learned to never be swaggeringly cocky about how we think elections will go.
exactly, which is why I am so much enjoying the swagger on the right this time, and have said very little to contest it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 21, 2019 12:14:13 GMT -5
Exactly! VB missed the whole point...." So one little community in any state does not represent an entire state nor does it predict who will win." <<<< As I said in my reply above. Also, in 2016 DT only won the electoral college, he didn't win the popular vote...and more & more are turning away from him every day in this area...which is HIGHLY RED!You missed my whole point in my post. People from all over middle America are now out in the open talking about the disgrace of the democratic party actions and can no longer believe in their party. Florida will not even be close in the Presidential election, and democrats are basically financially broke right now and will have to spend a billion dollars to win the midwest states as well as a few that they won in 2016. It ain't going to happen. Democratic doations to so many candidates running for the nomination have robbed the DNC of money and the money is not going to be there for their nominee to win so many critical states. The finances are going to look like 1964 when the Repuvlicans had Goldwater going against Johnson. It is going to be painful for some people here. It may be painful for some people here but a good probability not the ones you think. I'm also starting to think you're attending the Space Coast Academy of Bloviation and Hyperbole.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 21, 2019 12:44:47 GMT -5
Media is anti Trump and wants his scalp and involved in the Russian collusion push.
Democrats after the collusion collapse will not stop at anything.
People are not happy about secret investigations without some public viewing if you want to Impeach him.
Socialism and open borders by every democratic runner is a no vote for them.
Media is anti-Trump because they report all the things he says and does, which are usually really stupid? Perhaps they should sweep all the stupid and ignorant things he does under the rug, so nobody knows about them? Not going to happen, because the fool tweets, exposing his stupidity and narcissism for the whole world to see.
Again with the socialism? Which democratic front runner is in favour of no private businesses? In favour of the state owning everything? I'll wait while you look it up. Republicans are so easily frightened by imaginary boogeymen.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 21, 2019 14:59:09 GMT -5
Media is anti Trump
I suppose that they shouldn't report that Trump referred to the Italian President as President Mozzarella. Or calling the defense secretary, Mark Esper as Mark Esperanto. Or calling Tim Cook, Tim Apple. Or calling Prince Charles "The Prince of Whales" Or making up the names of countries, like Nambia, Nipple and Button.
His "great and unmatched wisdom" and his "highest IQ" are belied by everything that comes out of his mouth. If the media dares report on his abject ignorance, they're anti-Trump?
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Post by tallguy on Oct 21, 2019 15:04:07 GMT -5
Media is anti Trump
I suppose that they shouldn't report that Trump referred to the Italian President as President Mozzarella. Or calling the defense secretary, Mark Esper as Mark Esperanto. Or calling Tim Cook, Tim Apple. Or calling Prince Charles "The Prince of Whales" Or making up the names of countries, like Nambia, Nipple and Button. His "great and unmatched wisdom" and his "highest IQ" are belied by everything that comes out of his mouth. If the media dares report on his abject ignorance, they're anti-Trump? Of course! They should worship him in all of his greatness, and if you don't believe that, well, he'll tell you again!
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 21, 2019 15:34:19 GMT -5
Republicans are so easily frightened by imaginary boogeymen.
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Exactly! VB missed the whole point...." So one little community in any state does not represent an entire state nor does it predict who will win." <<<< As I said in my reply above. Also, in 2016 DT only won the electoral college, he didn't win the popular vote...and more & more are turning away from him every day in this area...which is HIGHLY RED!You missed my whole point in my post. People from all over middle America are now out in the open talking about the disgrace of the democratic party actions and can no longer believe in their party. Florida will not even be close in the Presidential election, and democrats are basically financially broke right now and will have to spend a billion dollars to win the midwest states as well as a few that they won in 2016. It ain't going to happen. Democratic doations to so many candidates running for the nomination have robbed the DNC of money and the money is not going to be there for their nominee to win so many critical states. The finances are going to look like 1964 when the Repuvlicans had Goldwater going against Johnson. It is going to be painful for some people here. "People from all over middle America …" Your assuming that middle America would be a haven for Dems?... As far as Presidential finances.....I still believe there will be substantial $ for who ever is the Democratic candidate...not that I am one of those prime giver of $ political...but I gave zero during primary season...who ever is the candidate will get my vote against the Donald...though I have my preference and who I believe will be best candidate against a sitting POTUS...but once candidate is chosen..they will get my few $...prably about a few hundred...possible a bit more...as I have given in past. Maybe I am alone in doing this this way..then again.... ….. For our country's sake...for what I grew up believing about my country and what it stood for...what served long long ago and bled a bit for....hopefully there will be a change at the top...fingers and toes crossed...if not...……. ………………….. …………..
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Post by Opti on Oct 21, 2019 17:28:03 GMT -5
Just some thoughts on the Presidential race as of this month. As you know we winter in Florida. Our development is about 45% year round residents with a good mix of retired as well as families with school age children, the rest snowbirds with about 5 to 6% Canadians. This year as people are coming back, there is a pronounced difference in political views and attitudes. In 2016 2017 qnd even 2018 few snowbirds and permanent residents discussed a lot of politics amongst each other. Why, I am not sure......maybe did not want to ruffle feathers as everyone just wanted to enjoy the weather and restaurants and beaches etc. In 2019 as people arrive, they are talking politics. Surprisingly, I will say many are talking about Trump. Well, maybe not surprisingly based on media news about collusion and now impeachment. I will say people who never talked in 2016 or 2017 are expressing views now. I remember in 2016 if you were an avid trump supporter you were looked at with some concern by other residents..... Highlights are basically these topics. Media is anti Trump and wants his scalp and involved in the Russian collusion push. Democrats after the collusion collapse will not stop at anything. People are not happy about secret investigations without some public viewing if you want to Impeach him. Socialism and open borders by every democratic runner is a no vote for them.These views are not only from snowbirds but some of the full time residents. I was a Trump suporter and they knew it, but did not discuss with me then. They sure are now, and I am not asking anyone to give me their views. They bring it up to me. Surprisingly, the economy is not really talked about by most people. Some permanent Florida residents are turning to Trump after the O'Rourke gun confiscation fiasco. They like their guns down here. I am surprised at the openess of the political discussion here this fall. Since the snowbirds are primarily Midwest and a smattering of Jersey and New Yorkers, it looks like Trump is solid again in the midwest, and Florida. I admit Jersey is probably a no, and NY is definitely no. I am now thinking Trump will not only win in 2020, but win big. Canadians, although they do not count in this discussion are basically not here yet. Most wait til November to spend their exact six months out of Canada....and for the most part would be democrats if they could vote here. While I agree many in the media would be happy to see Trump gone, I don't think they are doing anything atypical in their stories and coverage pre-Trump and now. I disagree with your second sentence as I am a registered Democrat and I definitely have limits. Third sentence, there are no secret investigations, it is much like it has usually been. The information gathering on Nixon and Clinton wasn't publicized and open, and nor should it be. There will not be secret impeachment hearings. I hope you aren't swallowing Trump blather on this, because you are basically asking for him to be treated better than any other President ... or any other accused person for that matter. Until the information and evidence is gathered, you generally don't schedule impeachment hearings. And lastly, I am sick of the lie that the Democratic party is pro open border. I have not seen one, not one person promoting open borders. That is a big ass lie that you and others repeat. And IMO there is a difference between Socialism and social programs. I understand many conservatives are not in favor of either, unless it affects their roads, Medicare, and similar things. There's a huge variability on what people want in social programs. I am not pro all this free college costs because I know that a more educated workforce will not automatically breed better jobs and better pay.
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 21, 2019 18:14:07 GMT -5
Just some thoughts on the Presidential race as of this month. As you know we winter in Florida. Our development is about 45% year round residents with a good mix of retired as well as families with school age children, the rest snowbirds with about 5 to 6% Canadians. This year as people are coming back, there is a pronounced difference in political views and attitudes. In 2016 2017 qnd even 2018 few snowbirds and permanent residents discussed a lot of politics amongst each other. Why, I am not sure......maybe did not want to ruffle feathers as everyone just wanted to enjoy the weather and restaurants and beaches etc. In 2019 as people arrive, they are talking politics. Surprisingly, I will say many are talking about Trump. Well, maybe not surprisingly based on media news about collusion and now impeachment. I will say people who never talked in 2016 or 2017 are expressing views now. I remember in 2016 if you were an avid trump supporter you were looked at with some concern by other residents..... Highlights are basically these topics. Media is anti Trump and wants his scalp and involved in the Russian collusion push. Democrats after the collusion collapse will not stop at anything. People are not happy about secret investigations without some public viewing if you want to Impeach him. Socialism and open borders by every democratic runner is a no vote for them.These views are not only from snowbirds but some of the full time residents. I was a Trump suporter and they knew it, but did not discuss with me then. They sure are now, and I am not asking anyone to give me their views. They bring it up to me. Surprisingly, the economy is not really talked about by most people. Some permanent Florida residents are turning to Trump after the O'Rourke gun confiscation fiasco. They like their guns down here. I am surprised at the openess of the political discussion here this fall. Since the snowbirds are primarily Midwest and a smattering of Jersey and New Yorkers, it looks like Trump is solid again in the midwest, and Florida. I admit Jersey is probably a no, and NY is definitely no. I am now thinking Trump will not only win in 2020, but win big. Canadians, although they do not count in this discussion are basically not here yet. Most wait til November to spend their exact six months out of Canada....and for the most part would be democrats if they could vote here. While I agree many in the media would be happy to see Trump gone, I don't think they are doing anything atypical in their stories and coverage pre-Trump and now. I disagree with your second sentence as I am a registered Democrat and I definitely have limits. Third sentence, there are no secret investigations, it is much like it has usually been. The information gathering on Nixon and Clinton wasn't publicized and open, and nor should it be. There will not be secret impeachment hearings. I hope you aren't swallowing Trump blather on this, because you are basically asking for him to be treated better than any other President ... or any other accused person for that matter. Until the information and evidence is gathered, you generally don't schedule impeachment hearings. And lastly, I am sick of the lie that the Democratic party is pro open border. I have not seen one, not one person promoting open borders. That is a big ass lie that you and others repeat. And IMO there is a difference between Socialism and social programs. I understand many conservatives are not in favor of either, unless it affects their roads, Medicare, and similar things. There's a huge variability on what people want in social programs. I am not pro all this free college costs because I know that a more educated workforce will not automatically breed better jobs and better pay. I don't think CNN wants him out of office. I think they are in bank mode. I think they are making money like Fox did when Obama was in office. Being the angry underdog raging at power is exciting. I am starting to wonder if Fox wants him out of office, so they can go back to flinging shit about Democrats and not having it overshadowed by their President.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 22, 2019 7:33:01 GMT -5
You missed my whole point in my post. People from all over middle America are now out in the open talking about the disgrace of the democratic party actions and can no longer believe in their party. Florida will not even be close in the Presidential election, and democrats are basically financially broke right now and will have to spend a billion dollars to win the midwest states as well as a few that they won in 2016. It ain't going to happen. Democratic doations to so many candidates running for the nomination have robbed the DNC of money and the money is not going to be there for their nominee to win so many critical states. The finances are going to look like 1964 when the Repuvlicans had Goldwater going against Johnson. It is going to be painful for some people here. "People from all over middle America …" Your assuming that middle America would be a haven for Dems?... As far as Presidential finances.....I still believe there will be substantial $ for who ever is the Democratic candidate...not that I am one of those prime giver of $ political...but I gave zero during primary season...who ever is the candidate will get my vote against the Donald...though I have my preference and who I believe will be best candidate against a sitting POTUS...but once candidate is chosen..they will get my few $...prably about a few hundred...possible a bit more...as I have given in past. Maybe I am alone in doing this this way..then again.... ….. For our country's sake...for what I grew up believing about my country and what it stood for...what served long long ago and bled a bit for....hopefully there will be a change at the top...fingers and toes crossed...if not...……. ………………….. ………….. Bolded. Although Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota are middle America, they run either way, although in national elections they leaned Democratic in the last few elections. Until 2016, although Minnesota still vote leftwing You are talking Union land here except for maybe Minnesota which is fairly political liberal by midddle America standards. Iowa is not a lock either way, but Illinois bleeds blue for Presidential races and Indiana is always red although we do elect a Democratic Senator and some state offices regularily.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 22, 2019 7:36:08 GMT -5
While I agree many in the media would be happy to see Trump gone, I don't think they are doing anything atypical in their stories and coverage pre-Trump and now. I disagree with your second sentence as I am a registered Democrat and I definitely have limits. Third sentence, there are no secret investigations, it is much like it has usually been. The information gathering on Nixon and Clinton wasn't publicized and open, and nor should it be. There will not be secret impeachment hearings. I hope you aren't swallowing Trump blather on this, because you are basically asking for him to be treated better than any other President ... or any other accused person for that matter. Until the information and evidence is gathered, you generally don't schedule impeachment hearings. And lastly, I am sick of the lie that the Democratic party is pro open border. I have not seen one, not one person promoting open borders. That is a big ass lie that you and others repeat. And IMO there is a difference between Socialism and social programs. I understand many conservatives are not in favor of either, unless it affects their roads, Medicare, and similar things. There's a huge variability on what people want in social programs. I am not pro all this free college costs because I know that a more educated workforce will not automatically breed better jobs and better pay. I don't think CNN wants him out of office. I think they are in bank mode. I think they are making money like Fox did when Obama was in office. Being the angry underdog raging at power is exciting. I am starting to wonder if Fox wants him out of office, so they can go back to flinging shit about Democrats and not having it overshadowed by their President. Based on actual viewer numbers CNN is out of business. Whether their advertisers are paying regular rates for ads with diminished viewer numbers, I do not know. If advertisers like the economic value of the viewers watching and is worth paying regular rates is up to advertisers
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 22, 2019 8:24:50 GMT -5
It's sad that our voting mostly falls among party lines and liberal / conservative lines instead of what-a-f*&king-toxic-nutjob-did-and-is-still-doing lines.
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 22, 2019 9:59:04 GMT -5
I don't think CNN wants him out of office. I think they are in bank mode. I think they are making money like Fox did when Obama was in office. Being the angry underdog raging at power is exciting. I am starting to wonder if Fox wants him out of office, so they can go back to flinging shit about Democrats and not having it overshadowed by their President. Based on actual viewer numbers CNN is out of business. Whether their advertisers are paying regular rates for ads with diminished viewer numbers, I do not know. If advertisers like the economic value of the viewers watching and is worth paying regular rates is up to advertisers Their profits have doubled in the past 6 years.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 23, 2019 8:15:59 GMT -5
Based on actual viewer numbers CNN is out of business. Whether their advertisers are paying regular rates for ads with diminished viewer numbers, I do not know. If advertisers like the economic value of the viewers watching and is worth paying regular rates is up to advertisers Their profits have doubled in the past 6 years. Are you referencing CNN'S profits or Time Warner's numbers? I ask because I cannot find any breakout for CNN, other than cfo's saying CNN'S numbers in 2016 increased because they started charging cable networks higher rates to have the network on their service. ATT bought Time Warner and I cannot find the data yet. Their viewer numbers are dead last now and only one hour on CNN is even listedt in the top 20 cable shows and that is Anderson Cooper who is #20, dead last.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 24, 2019 14:49:28 GMT -5
Slowly but surely, the winnowing process is taking its toll on the Democratic presidential field. On Thursday, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan dropped out of the race to focus on his reelection bid in the House.
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Post by swamp on Oct 24, 2019 15:01:53 GMT -5
I don't think CNN wants him out of office. I think they are in bank mode. I think they are making money like Fox did when Obama was in office. Being the angry underdog raging at power is exciting. I am starting to wonder if Fox wants him out of office, so they can go back to flinging shit about Democrats and not having it overshadowed by their President. Based on actual viewer numbers CNN is out of business. Whether their advertisers are paying regular rates for ads with diminished viewer numbers, I do not know. If advertisers like the economic value of the viewers watching and is worth paying regular rates is up to advertisers www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/06/awful-ratings-record-profits-whats-cnns-secret/258477/
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 24, 2019 16:49:09 GMT -5
Swamp, I thought you got me! Then I saw the date of the article Somehow I have to dig up Time Warner's balance sheet for a previous qtr this year and see if they break out CNN separately. Since ATT bought them out earlier this year, wil have to wait to see how they break it out.
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Post by Opti on Oct 24, 2019 18:08:22 GMT -5
Slowly but surely, the winnowing process is taking its toll on the Democratic presidential field. On Thursday, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan dropped out of the race to focus on his reelection bid in the House.
Its often about the money and whether you think you got backing to stay in. Trump's war chest is supposed to be huge.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 25, 2019 8:44:37 GMT -5
Trump issued an order that no federal government offices can subscribe to the WP or New York Times, because they are 'fake' news and treat him horribly. His spokes person insists this will save tax payers 'hundreds of thousands of dollars.'
WP pointed out that they give a free digital subscription to anyone who has a .gov email address, so, no tax payer expense for any of them.
Apparently, this is what Trump means when he says everyone in the GOP has to 'fight back viciously' because the Dems are all vicious with this impeachment nonsense.
Glad Trump is using his time wisely by trying to punish people and organizations who fail to glorify him adequately. That's a huge waste of tax payer money, his salary.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 25, 2019 8:55:37 GMT -5
Trump issued an order that no federal government offices can subscribe to the WP or New York Times, because they are 'fake' news and treat him horribly. His spokes person insists this will save tax payers 'hundreds of thousands of dollars.'
WP pointed out that they give a free digital subscription to anyone who has a .gov email address, so, no tax payer expense for any of them.
Apparently, this is what Trump means when he says everyone in the GOP has to 'fight back viciously' because the Dems are all vicious with this impeachment nonsense.
Glad Trump is using his time wisely by trying to punish people and organizations who fail to glorify him adequately. That's a huge waste of tax payer money, his salary.
Another childish action from the petulent president.
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