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Post by NastyWoman on May 14, 2019 15:04:49 GMT -5
Bolton has big ideas. He thinks (still) that we can reform the Middle East to our liking, by force. He thinks this way because of his great education in a US Military Academy, honed and tempered by his extensive wartime service. Um, wait a minute..... He has no military training? No military experience? Oh, shoot. no shooting → we won't have enough bullets after the DoD decided to give away billions of its budget to pay for the wall. Or do you propose we pay our military with IOU's until after the completion of this masterwork in futility?
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Post by happyhoix on May 14, 2019 15:20:09 GMT -5
Again u dislike giving all the facts...just enjoy trying to stir up the masses...believe it's called trolling ...a internet thing. The $ that Obama sent to Iran was their money...$ they gave us for arms when Shah was still in power but arms never delivered...plus interest....The case was going to be heard by international court and all the experts said we, USA, would lose that case...thus Obama ok the return og THEIR moneys....Along with that lets tackle the decision to pull out of IRAQ ..that was a agreement ww made with IRAQ unless IRAQ government wanted us to stay, PM, Malacki, and their parliament, would not agree to have our people be under US laws..[seems it is so elsewhere..protections our people] so had to leave Obama gave a known terrorist organization billions of$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,,
To fund even more terrorist activists!! Death to all Americans!!!
It was IRAN's money. We seized it, and we ended up giving it back, because we're not pirates.
Never mind. Continue to pretend Obama drove up in a plush Cadillac and made it rain for his fellow Muslims.
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Post by countrygirl2 on May 14, 2019 15:27:08 GMT -5
I hope my son gets out of there before this all explodes and I doubt it, he won't be home till end of September. I think they will have us in a war soon.
Yes, Bolton and Pompeo are both worthless. All they want is war, to bad he found some more swamp creatures.
Like my hubs said, why are we doing this Iran was living up to their agreement, Iraq did nothing either, what is wrong with us?. You yell rally around the flag and off the idiots go. They said if we go in there after Iran they can field a 1/2 million troops and we are sending 100,000? We are going to keep it up till we are going to get the world AGAINST us and get slaughtered. We used to be the good guys. I also agree with hubs, he said if trump gets in again the world is going to be writing us off as they will think we support that ignorant dumbass.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 14, 2019 15:31:16 GMT -5
Again u dislike giving all the facts...just enjoy trying to stir up the masses...believe it's called trolling ...a internet thing. The $ that Obama sent to Iran was their money...$ they gave us for arms when Shah was still in power but arms never delivered...plus interest....The case was going to be heard by international court and all the experts said we, USA, would lose that case...thus Obama ok the return og THEIR moneys....Along with that lets tackle the decision to pull out of IRAQ ..that was a agreement ww made with IRAQ unless IRAQ government wanted us to stay, PM, Malacki, and their parliament, would not agree to have our people be under US laws..[seems it is so elsewhere..protections our people] so had to leave Obama gave a known terrorist organization billions of$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,,
To fund even more terrorist activists!! Death to all Americans!!!
Does acting like an ignorant douche come naturally, or do you have to work at it?
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Post by countrygirl2 on May 14, 2019 15:35:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I have tried explaining to the local yokels too that was Iran's money we gave back, good luck with that
The farmers around here are getting anxious too. We see equipment hooked up, sitting in the farm yards or in a field, waiting. We see some corn up here and there, we drove to Odon today about an hour and a half away very little activity. One friend of hubs that is a big farmer is really worried, he said the prices are so far down he can't or doesn't want to sell his stored grain for nothing.
Now the season is getting late, not much longer for some crops and I'm sure before they were heavy on soybeans, now what?
We are seeing farmland around here for sale, 50, 100 acres, I'm wondering if they trying to sell some to help stay afloat this year. Several hundred acres south of us sold for $7k an acres, I believe before it was selling for $10k an acre.
We will see bankruptcies and suicides. The farmers here can't sell their land for millions unless a strip mine comes though and that's in the east part of the country. These guys want to farm, that's what they do and want to do.
AS, I really don't know about you, you are either stupid or as someone said you are just a troll. There seems to be nothing you say anymore that is credible, you definitely are a trump supporter.
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Post by dezii on May 14, 2019 15:56:22 GMT -5
Maybe Old Coyote can give us his analysis of the Hague Tribunal, and what the proper actions should have been. I guess we could have refused and continue to rack up owed interest. Or, was there another option? I have read about it, and I haven't come up with a good solution. Lol! What we'll get is another lame "Whoo Hooo! Trump is making America great ag that he consistently pulls out of his assPolitical analysis isn't exactly his strong suit. "he consistently pulls out of his ass"
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Post by dondub on May 14, 2019 18:00:52 GMT -5
Bolton is just one the many Repo-Con chicken hawks of PNAC. Although none of them served they seek complete American imperialist hegemony over the ME. I suspect smaller than average penises. First they phonied us into Iraq under treasonous lies. Then they doubled down on Afghanistan the ‘endless war’. This has cost trillions with trillions more to come. Now the hegemonists are rattling sabers after Trump’s foolish walking away from a sound treaty involving numerous of what used to be our allies. The work of ‘the Other’ must be undone. They have even convinced numerous idiots that Obama have a terrorist organization billions of dollars. The IQ’s on the right are a fucking tragedy! So go ahead all you complete fools and support a war on Iran and risk a worldwide conflagration. We even golfed today with a 66 year old retired vet who said he would go to Iran in a heartbeat. I didn’t get into it with him as we had 6 holes to play and we are on vacation.
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Post by tallguy on May 14, 2019 18:20:12 GMT -5
AS, I really don't know about you, you are either stupid or as someone said you are just a troll. There seems to be nothing you say anymore that is credible, you definitely are a trump supporter. Certainly a troll, and an admitted one. I must add, however, that there is nothing inherently contradictory about being both.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 14, 2019 18:25:51 GMT -5
Bolton is just one the many Repo-Con chicken hawks of PNAC. Although none of them served they seek complete American imperialist hegemony over the ME. I suspect smaller than average penises. First they phonied us into Iraq under treasonous lies. Then they doubled down on Afghanistan the ‘endless war’. This has cost trillions with trillions more to come. Now the hegemonists are rattling sabers after Trump’s foolish walking away from a sound treaty involving numerous of what used to be our allies. The work of ‘the Other’ must be undone. They have even convinced numerous idiots that Obama have a terrorist organization billions of dollars. The IQ’s on the right are a fucking tragedy! So go ahead all you complete fools and support a war on Iran and risk a worldwide conflagration. We even golfed today with a 66 year old retired vet who said he would go to Iran in a heartbeat. I didn’t get into it with him as we had 6 holes to play and we are on vacation. this is the same recipe that ended the USSR. now, rather than learning that lesson, the USSA is following their lead down the drain.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 21:26:36 GMT -5
It's been about 70 years since end of WW2 and just about most of the leadership, in fact the populace of the two major enemy belligerents, are either dead or super seniors.... Apologies have been made, restitution has been made, good citizenship has been made yet the two countries are still under a cloud... In Asia Japan is still not fully accepted....As far as Germany...when u think of that country , it brings up for the most part, negative images... So if we , USA, get involved militarily again in the world, I wonder if we too will start to be looked at in the same way...especially after Viet Nam, the invasion of Iraq, removal and death of Gaddafi..our recent history has not been that bright in the eyes of the world and under our newest leader..[hey , we elected him] it seems to be going down hill and now it seems with the China question...North Korean problems and the Iranian rhetoric....seems we are not doing anything to improve our image... Seems the "Ugly American" is alive and thriving.. Just saying. That's why there are good people like us here dezi- to push the ship in the other direction! Fighting for - Truth, Justice, and the American Way I see you have the flag flying here ,, Fighting for,,,, and the American way,, I did a post a ways back where I said I was proud to be an American,, Most of you weren't so proud.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 21:34:41 GMT -5
The farm sold for multi millions. It is all high priced houses now!
And I'm sure some farms were on top of oil or natural gas deposits, and some were on rich mineral deposits, and some others, like yours, were right in the path of suburban sprawl and the land suddenly became valuable.
However, for the majority of farmers making a living growing soybeans and corn out of dirt in fly over country, their land is only worth what they can coax to grow out of it, then turn around and sell for a profit.
For them, life is harder due to Trump's tariff fight. You can gloat about your great fortune that you're not one of them, or you can show some compassion to people who, through no fault of their own, are struggling to survive.
Your choice.
Why yes they were,, every time the big ol pump handle on those oil well goes up and down,, it pumps money right into a big bank account!!! Woooo Hooooo,, Trump is making America Great Again.. Don't forget about my gold mine,, we go up dig out some gold for fun,, let all those toxic things run down that stream,, after a while it finally clears up!
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 21:37:34 GMT -5
Don't forget the water rights,,, they sold for 100X what the entire farm sold for in the first place!
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Post by thyme4change on May 14, 2019 21:47:17 GMT -5
Again u dislike giving all the facts...just enjoy trying to stir up the masses...believe it's called trolling ...a internet thing. The $ that Obama sent to Iran was their money...$ they gave us for arms when Shah was still in power but arms never delivered...plus interest....The case was going to be heard by international court and all the experts said we, USA, would lose that case...thus Obama ok the return og THEIR moneys....Along with that lets tackle the decision to pull out of IRAQ ..that was a agreement ww made with IRAQ unless IRAQ government wanted us to stay, PM, Malacki, and their parliament, would not agree to have our people be under US laws..[seems it is so elsewhere..protections our people] so had to leave Obama gave a known terrorist organization billions of$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,,
To fund even more terrorist activists!! Death to all Americans!!!
Can you please give me your thoughts on the Hague and what the outcome should have been? I'm desperate to find an intelligent, educated alternative opinion, but haven't heard one. It is hard to understand opposing viewpoints when no one will discuss them with you.
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Post by dezii on May 14, 2019 21:58:38 GMT -5
Obama gave a known terrorist organization billions of$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,,
To fund even more terrorist activists!! Death to all Americans!!!
Does acting like an ignorant douche come naturally, or do you have to work at it?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 14, 2019 22:00:43 GMT -5
Obama gave a known terrorist organization billions of$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,,
To fund even more terrorist activists!! Death to all Americans!!!
Can you please give me your thoughts on the Hague and what the outcome should have been? I'm desperate to find an intelligent, educated alternative opinion, but haven't heard one. It is hard to understand opposing viewpoints when no one will discuss them with you.
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OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 22:08:29 GMT -5
Obama gave a known terrorist organization billions of$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,,
To fund even more terrorist activists!! Death to all Americans!!!
Can you please give me your thoughts on the Hague and what the outcome should have been? I'm desperate to find an intelligent, educated alternative opinion, but haven't heard one. It is hard to understand opposing viewpoints when no one will discuss them with you. Ok it is a city in the Nederlands!
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 22:15:12 GMT -5
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 22:21:22 GMT -5
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 22:23:42 GMT -5
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 22:25:19 GMT -5
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Post by OldCoyote on May 14, 2019 22:26:07 GMT -5
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Post by tallguy on May 14, 2019 23:10:23 GMT -5
Investor's Business Daily Next.
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Post by justme on May 15, 2019 0:01:34 GMT -5
I remember that.
My MIL was certain we would all be forced to be Muslims and have to live under Sharia law while my Mom was certain black people would be bussed into middle class neighborhoods like hers and they would be obligated to give the blacks their houses.
The irony is it's the Christians making restrictive religious laws here.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2019 0:04:19 GMT -5
Investor's Business Daily Next. IBD used to be a business journal.
until they were taken over by lunatics.
now they are somewhere between The Washington Times and WND.
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Post by tallguy on May 15, 2019 0:34:01 GMT -5
Investor's Business Daily Next. IBD used to be a business journal.
until they were taken over by lunatics.
now they are somewhere between The Washington Times and WND.
Not a surprise that the poster's other source was The Washington Times, is it? One wonders why he didn't go for the triple.
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Post by thyme4change on May 15, 2019 7:20:26 GMT -5
Can you please give me your thoughts on the Hague and what the outcome should have been? I'm desperate to find an intelligent, educated alternative opinion, but haven't heard one. It is hard to understand opposing viewpoints when no one will discuss them with you. Ok it is a city in the Nederlands!
Is this brand new information to you? Do you know what I am asking about? Because neither of your articles addressed my question.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 15, 2019 8:43:54 GMT -5
The Muslim's,,, are such nice loving people!!
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Post by dondub on May 15, 2019 8:52:23 GMT -5
For no legitimate reason the Christians bombed the crap out of Iraq killing half a million women and children. What nice people.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2019 8:54:18 GMT -5
The Muslim's,,, are such nice loving people!! Muslims are no more or less loving than Christians, in my experience.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on May 15, 2019 8:57:17 GMT -5
The Muslim's,,, are such nice loving people!! As were the Christians in the Crusades (1096 - 1291).
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