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Post by chapeau on Apr 30, 2019 14:11:25 GMT -5
NO, NO, NO, NO!!! You can't do this to us → your next car has to be PURPLE Looking for purple cars is my car game with DS. They are extremely hard to find! It makes me want to get a custom paint job or a wrap on my next car. My current is a bright blue and even that is hard to find anymore. Both DH’s and my cars are bright blue. We both roll our eyes at it, we’re not a matchy couple.
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Post by tractor on Apr 30, 2019 14:15:20 GMT -5
I have no limit, I typically buy on emotion, with a solid buy and hold approach. I also tend to buy used, depending on the vehicle. When we bought our truck last year, it was $42K used, it was what I wanted at the time and I don’t regret it.
If it’s a car, I also buy and hold until it’s used up. My current daily driver has 230,000 miles on it. I’m hoping for 300+, and only spent $14K on it. Currently dreaming about a Porsche 911 AWD, wife says go for it, but I’m waiting for my car to die first (hopefully in a few years). I spend at least 3 hours in a car everyday, might as well have something I enjoy.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Apr 30, 2019 14:16:13 GMT -5
I am maxed out at $20k right now for new. $16k or so for used.
I just spent $18.5k for a new SUV. It felt like too much. I had some emotional trauma afterwards because it was more than I felt like I could handle. Too many years on YM, I guess. 🙄
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Post by movingforward on Apr 30, 2019 14:30:46 GMT -5
I have a 2012 Hyundai Tuscon and really like it. I bought it at Carmax in 2014 with only 23K miles on it and it has been a good car. My plan is to keep it another 1.5 - 2 years. I get the 7 years itch when it comes to cars.
Right now I am trying to decide if I should replace the front windshield. It has a crack about 18 inches long (not really sure where it came from). I am hoping they might just be able to do a repair but I have a feeling they might not. Since I am keeping it for a while maybe I should just get it replaced if needed . I think I am just being cheap... Yea my friend had a 2013 he just replaced with a 2019 (or maybe 2018). I drove down to Miami with him in the thing so know it's a comfy ride. I've had the itch for a new car for a few years, I've just so far been too cheap and would rather vacation a lot. Does your insurance not cover windshield repair for free? I know is mandated in Florida - they've filled 3 chips and I just got a fourth last week I need repaired. Yay road construction. No, I have a $500 deductible for the windshield which means it isn't even worth filing a claim. I haven't taken in for a "real" quote yet but when I described it over the phone, along with make/model of the car they said around $300 - $400.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Apr 30, 2019 15:13:03 GMT -5
We tend to pay cash for a great deal and never hurry into getting a new(er) car. Mine is a 2009 Accord I bought from a neighbor when he went to live with his daughter. It had 82k miles on it and I am still under 100k about two and a half years later. I don’t drive much. DH replaced his 1987 Pontiac with a 2004 Ford truck that we got for about 3k a year or so ago. We will drive them until they die (or one of us does) , then replace if necessary. Our cars are well maintained and generally don’t need a lot of work, although I suspect DH’s truck will need replacing sooner than mine. I’ve only had one new car and that was a Ford Pinto, way before we know about the gas tank issues. I did buy a Mazda 323 that was a year old once. I loved that car and only got rid of it when I was rear ended and the trunk was sprung and they could never fix it properly. We rent SUV’s for trips as they are more comfortable for long trips.
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Post by oped on Apr 30, 2019 15:23:20 GMT -5
So the Pacifica Hybrid starts at $40k and the regular one starts at $27k. The non-hybrid is a much more sane amount. I would think the additional cost of hybrids only make sense for people that are driving a shit ton of miles, not ones that drive about the average. I’m guessing you can’t avoid all gas? I’m ignorant on hybrids... but 13k miles a year, average nost cars is what 26. So 500 gallons a year depending on gas prices, 1200-1500 a year? So break even price wise at about 10 years? Unless gas goes up more. Is it much better for the environment? I drive more than 13 but highway doesn’t hybrid use gas anyway?
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Post by justme on Apr 30, 2019 15:33:38 GMT -5
So the Pacifica Hybrid starts at $40k and the regular one starts at $27k. The non-hybrid is a much more sane amount. I would think the additional cost of hybrids only make sense for people that are driving a shit ton of miles, not ones that drive about the average. I’m guessing you can’t avoid all gas? I’m ignorant on hybrids... but 13k miles a year, average nost cars is what 26. So 500 gallons a year depending on gas prices, 1200-1500 a year? So break even price wise at about 10 years? Unless gas goes up more. Is it much better for the environment? I drive more than 13 but highway doesn’t hybrid use gas anyway? Unless you're only driving very close to home, yes. Because they also have gas engines, they don't get anywhere near the range Teslas do. At first look your math seems about right and close to what I've heard. The 'idea' is that hybrid is better for the environment, but you're charging the cars with the electricity you get from your house which currently in the US is like 65% from fossil fuels. Ya know, fossil fuel...like what gas is made out of! So it then becomes is burning coal better or gas? As much as I am for the environment, based on all of what I hear hybrids seem to me more of a feel good gimmick with a hefty price tag than anything else. Natural gas is much cleaner than coal or gasoline, and there's already some cars out there that run on natural gas. Which I would think would be better than hybrids charged by coal and fueled by gasoline. But I'm either missing something, or there's powers at be that want to keep on the gas and coal train.
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Post by saveinla on Apr 30, 2019 15:50:41 GMT -5
My DH has leased an Acura RDX last year - they were advertising the 2018 models with 600$ down and 300$ per month for 36 months. Since it was way less than the 3K they were asking for other cars, he went for it. Since he was looking at cars for 3 years, I told him it was time to make the decision or just shut up.
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Post by cktc on Apr 30, 2019 15:54:09 GMT -5
So the Pacifica Hybrid starts at $40k and the regular one starts at $27k. The non-hybrid is a much more sane amount. I would think the additional cost of hybrids only make sense for people that are driving a shit ton of miles, not ones that drive about the average. I’m guessing you can’t avoid all gas? I’m ignorant on hybrids... but 13k miles a year, average nost cars is what 26. So 500 gallons a year depending on gas prices, 1200-1500 a year? So break even price wise at about 10 years? Unless gas goes up more. Is it much better for the environment? I drive more than 13 but highway doesn’t hybrid use gas anyway? Good points! There is also a $7500 tax credit with the Pacifica and $4500 with the Niro. I suppose the question is do we want a bigger vehicle or a fuel efficient one. Both doesn't currently make sense. If we get a standard minivan I'm happy to buy used. Hybrid I'd want new because the batteries still scare me a bit and I'd like the full warranty. Kia is nice because they have the 60k basic/100k powertrain. As for use, I'm work from home so DH would probably steal the hybrid and I'm stuck with the older smaller vehicle with the kids. We'd like to road trip more, but realistically we're still only talking a couple thousand miles a year, and renting is still an option. New car is still about a year away so we have time to ponder and save.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Apr 30, 2019 16:18:48 GMT -5
$20,000 is our mental block right now. I have a 2013 Honda Fit and hubs has a 2018 Fit. He has a five mile commute and mine is one mile to the train station. No judgement on driving one mile to the train; I can leave my house at 6:37 and be on the 6:41. It's my way of living dangerously.
We like hatchbacks. It's nice not having to deal with a bike rack anymore.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Apr 30, 2019 18:22:49 GMT -5
The 2012 Honda Fit was about $16K. I can't see myself every spending more than $20K.
I drive my cars until they die so I figure I will buy one more car in my lifetime. Next car will be a sedan and not a hatchback so I may have to spend a bit more.
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Post by jelloshots4all on Apr 30, 2019 18:43:59 GMT -5
I like nice cars. I'm probably going to spend 60k on the next one (possibly more, depending on what I finally decide to get). I'm retired and did enough traveling while I was working to last a lifetime, so my retirement indulgence is going to be nice cars. Whatever I get, it's going to have all the new safety-related equipment and features and will definitely make future car-purchase decisions on the basis of whatever new options of that kind become available. Those are the features that will help me remain independent for as long as possible. I have been putting $500 to $1000 into the "next car" car fund every month since I bought my last car in 2010, so I'm primarily going to be concerned about the total price of the car and will focus negotiations on that. Since I tend to keep my cars for a while, it is very possible that this might be my last car or at least next to last, so I'm going to get exactly what I want. I think I want a red one this time. Yes, I know I can get a good car with all the features I want for a lot less money, but I like shiny things and really nice interiors and find the groveling obsequiousness of the staff at luxury car dealerships to be entertaining. Women like me achieve a level of invisibility that reaches superpower status as we get older, so we tend to have a soft spot for businesses and people who actually acknowledge our existence.
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Post by jelloshots4all on Apr 30, 2019 18:49:40 GMT -5
dannylion one thing to consider is a luxury loaner car for sale. I bought one last year, it was 2 years old with 6,000 miles and the price was reduced from original sticker by about 40%. Has all the safety features and luxury features- heated seats, heated steering wheel, electronics etc. And it came with a warranty. I never would have paid new sticker car price, but this was a steal in my book.
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Post by giramomma on Apr 30, 2019 19:09:49 GMT -5
Well, I've spent $0 on all of my cars. They've all been hand me downs.
My first car I got was 15 years old; then I got a 12 year old car when the heater was dying on my first car-which was 18 years old by that point. My third car was DH's subaru that he bought right before we were married. It was a 2001, and I got it in 2007. So. Moving up, like the Jeffersons.
When we had #3, I got DH's 2008 (purchased in 2007). subaru. which I am still currently driving. He has the van.
I don't remember how the first subaru was paid for. It's almost been 20 years. The second was paid for from an inheritance DH got after his grandma died; the van was paid for from a gift from the ILs. Long story short, they "forgave" a temporary loan when we were buying/selling housing. So, we earmarked that windfall for the van...(we didn't buy it until a few years later).
I drive 5-6K miles a year. We live 7 or so miles from work, and the kids' k-8 school is in between. We live within walking distance to places like the grocery store...I take public transportation when I can. If I only worked one job, we'd only really need one car.
Eventually my car will need to be replaced. I'm hoping to wait with that until I'm done cashflowing school. If my car craps out before then, I think we'll likely lease. My budget is 10-15K. I don't want to part with cash right now, given that we're sinking a ton of money into the house, and there's still more that can go wrong (like having to replace a furnace).
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Post by dannylion on Apr 30, 2019 19:18:07 GMT -5
dannylion one thing to consider is a luxury loaner car for sale. I bought one last year, it was 2 years old with 6,000 miles and the price was reduced from original sticker by about 20%. Has all the safety features and luxury features- heated seats, heated steering wheel, electronics etc. And it came with a warranty. I never would have paid new sticker car price, but this was a steal in my book. Wow, that is a good deal. I'm too lazy to shop at several dealerships, and the nearest Cadillac dealership is small and doesn't have loaners (they have an arrangement with an Enterprise rental agency). They have "specials," but they are only on the cars nobody wanted to buy because they have some weird interior color or do not have features people want. If I get a Cadillac, I'm going to have to order one to get what I want. It would be fun to find a good car at a great price like you did, but it is unlikely to happen without making more effort than I want to make. The local dealer is 1.4 miles away. All the others are 30 to 40 miles away and require traveling on either the Baltimore Beltway or the Washington Beltway, both of which are nightmares on a good day. Congratulations on your nice unicorn!
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Post by tskeeter on Apr 30, 2019 19:53:52 GMT -5
I have no limit, I typically buy on emotion, with a solid buy and hold approach. I also tend to buy used, depending on the vehicle. When we bought our truck last year, it was $42K used, it was what I wanted at the time and I don’t regret it. If it’s a car, I also buy and hold until it’s used up. My current daily driver has 230,000 miles on it. I’m hoping for 300+, and only spent $14K on it. Currently dreaming about a Porsche 911 AWD, wife says go for it, but I’m waiting for my car to die first (hopefully in a few years). I spend at least 3 hours in a car everyday, might as well have something I enjoy. Tskeeter volunteers to come over and put your daily driver out of your misery so that you can get on to fun with a 911.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 7:27:38 GMT -5
I also have a mental block over $20K. I hope I don't need to replace my current car (2012 Nissan Sentra) for a very long time. I hate the whole car-buying process and will likely use the car broker I used when I got rid of the older of our 2 cars after DH died to sell the one I have. I may use him to buy as well, although we got the last 2 through Enterprise and that was pretty painless.
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Post by jelloshots4all on May 1, 2019 7:59:37 GMT -5
dannylion one thing to consider is a luxury loaner car for sale. I bought one last year, it was 2 years old with 6,000 miles and the price was reduced from original sticker by about 20%. Has all the safety features and luxury features- heated seats, heated steering wheel, electronics etc. And it came with a warranty. I never would have paid new sticker car price, but this was a steal in my book. Wow, that is a good deal. I'm too lazy to shop at several dealerships, and the nearest Cadillac dealership is small and doesn't have loaners (they have an arrangement with an Enterprise rental agency). They have "specials," but they are only on the cars nobody wanted to buy because they have some weird interior color or do not have features people want. If I get a Cadillac, I'm going to have to order one to get what I want. It would be fun to find a good car at a great price like you did, but it is unlikely to happen without making more effort than I want to make. The local dealer is 1.4 miles away. All the others are 30 to 40 miles away and require traveling on either the Baltimore Beltway or the Washington Beltway, both of which are nightmares on a good day. Congratulations on your nice unicorn! Sorry I meant 40%. A $50K car for $30K with the 6,000 miles. I live in a major metro area and the dealer is only about 10 min away. I knew I needed to replace my Mercedes SUV, and started looking online. Saw the deal, went for a couple test drives and then purchased it. Normally I wouldn't purchase a loaner car, but I assumed since it was a luxury car, the people who drove it probably took good care of it. Buy the car you want- you deserve it!!
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Post by dannylion on May 1, 2019 9:41:58 GMT -5
Wow, that is a good deal. I'm too lazy to shop at several dealerships, and the nearest Cadillac dealership is small and doesn't have loaners (they have an arrangement with an Enterprise rental agency). They have "specials," but they are only on the cars nobody wanted to buy because they have some weird interior color or do not have features people want. If I get a Cadillac, I'm going to have to order one to get what I want. It would be fun to find a good car at a great price like you did, but it is unlikely to happen without making more effort than I want to make. The local dealer is 1.4 miles away. All the others are 30 to 40 miles away and require traveling on either the Baltimore Beltway or the Washington Beltway, both of which are nightmares on a good day. Congratulations on your nice unicorn! Sorry I meant 40%. A $50K car for $30K with the 6,000 miles. I live in a major metro area and the dealer is only about 10 min away. I knew I needed to replace my Mercedes SUV, and started looking online. Saw the deal, went for a couple test drives and then purchased it. Normally I wouldn't purchase a loaner car, but I assumed since it was a luxury car, the people who drove it probably took good care of it. Buy the car you want- you deserve it!! Whoa! Even better! That's a great deal, indeed! Well done. I was considering one of the small Mercedes SUVs earlier because there is a Mercedes dealer just a couple of miles farther down the road from the Cadillac dealer (proximity being the primary consideration -- did I mention I'm lazy?), but then I discovered it had been purchased by one of the mega-dealership companies that seem to be gobbling up all the small local dealerships in this area, so that made it off limits. They are awful to deal with and have very poor customer service records. So, I'm back to the local Cadillac dealer. I hope they are not devoured by one of the giants before I can get my car. I'd love to find an treasure like yours, but I think it is unlikely.
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Post by movingforward on May 1, 2019 9:54:43 GMT -5
All this car talk has me wanting to go look...I think some of the Fiats are freaking adorable. I know absolutely nothing beyond that though...might go test drive one this weekend for fun.
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Post by tskeeter on May 1, 2019 11:15:00 GMT -5
All this car talk has me wanting to go look...I think some of the Fiats are freaking adorable. I know absolutely nothing beyond that though...might go test drive one this weekend for fun. You do know that Fiat is the acronym for “Fix it Again, Tony”, don’t you? Actually I don’t know how reliable Fiat’s are these days. But, Fiat is part of the Chrysler/Fiat family. Having recently retired from my half time volunteer position as a Dodge/Jeep mechanic for our two cars (we now have two Toyota’s), I suspect that if you value reliability over styling you might want to be cautious about understanding Fiat’s maintenance and repair history.
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Post by movingforward on May 1, 2019 11:21:51 GMT -5
All this car talk has me wanting to go look...I think some of the Fiats are freaking adorable. I know absolutely nothing beyond that though...might go test drive one this weekend for fun. You do know that Fiat is the acronym for “Fix it Again, Tony”, don’t you? Actually I don’t know how reliable Fiat’s are these days. But, Fiat is part of the Chrysler/Fiat family. Having recently retired from my half time volunteer position as a Dodge/Jeep mechanic for our two cars (we now have two Toyota’s), I suspect that if you value reliability over styling you might want to be cautious about understanding Fiat’s maintenance and repair history. Thanks tskeeter! I honestly know zero about the Fiat so I appreciate your response.
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Post by flamingo on May 1, 2019 15:19:47 GMT -5
When I was buying 2.5 years ago, $20k was my hard limit. I got a new to me small SUV for $18k (1.5 years old, 18k miles on it). It's fine, it does exactly what I need, it has 4WD which is important where I live.
Of course, now I wish I had upped my budget a little to get what I really wanted. Which is too bad for me, since I live 2.5 miles from work and most of my highway driving is done in rentals for work. And while I can afford a more expensive car, I just can't wrap my brain around trading in my perfectly good, not yet paid off car for something different.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 1, 2019 15:34:57 GMT -5
I paid about $2,200 for my last new-to-me car. It's a 2005 and runs great. I love Tiburons, so I snapped it up. It will probably be my last car, as my vision is deteriorating.
That's why I love the location of this apartment. Major grocery store across the street and within walking distance of everything....bank, medical clinic, community pool, library, park, etc. There's also a gym right across the street, so I left my epileptic machine behind.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 19:12:49 GMT -5
I am a car person who has spent the last 10 years or so pretending I am not. My BF bought a 2016 last year and for a while, riding in a newer car all the time was killing me! His other vehicles are old and don't give me new car fever. I still drive my '03 Accord that I bought new. I think I paid low 20's for it, more than I should've paid for a car at the time. That was before YM got ahold of me. My dream car is older than me and would cost more than my BF paid for his 2016. And I'd still need a daily driver. And a bigger garage, which would mean a whole new house. So that one would be pretty expensive lol. But it sure would make me happy. I should be thinking about getting another car, but I honestly dread it. I want something sexy that I'll enjoy driving. But sexy and enjoyable to drive doesn't necessarily equal reliable, and even if it did, I don't really want to pay for it. I haven't had a car payment in over a decade and I'm not sure I'd survive the trauma of paying for a whole car in one transaction. So, I keep driving my '03 to avoid having to make any decisions. I'm not sure how much longer that's going to work out though because even though she has been the most awesomest car ever as far as being reliable, ol' girl is getting..... old. Ugh!
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Post by alabamagal on May 1, 2019 19:39:14 GMT -5
The most we have paid for a vehicle is $22k, and that was Honda Odyssey 15 years ago. Most of our “new” cars were year old, lease returns and we got good deals and never had any problems.
We usually keep cars for a long time and try to offset purchases so that we only have a single car payment. My car is 2011 and paid off, DH is 2016 and has 2 more years to pay off. My problem now is that once we got past driving kids around we kind of overdid it and have 2 small vehicles. I would really like to trade my 2011 Ford Fiesta for a mid size or small SUV. Will probably do that once my job situation gets resolved, and I think we might go up to $30k😳.
We also have a 3rd vehicle, a 2002 Ford Explorer Truck. We use it for hauling stuff and for any time we take dogs (due to shedding). We will keep it as long as it runs. It is in rough shape with 220k miles on it.
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I'm not a car person and I've been a person that buys a car and then keeps it for a VERY long time (last one was 14 years old when I sold it and it was my main car for 12 of those years). I'm now getting to the point that I'm getting sick of cars after a point. Part of it is that I bought my last car in a huge rush (daughter wrecked her car and I thought it was totaled). I've hated it since the day after I bought it but since I bought it I'm stuck with it. I'm considering leasing in the future. I might only do it once but it will force me to stop being so F'n cheap and get a nice, shiny, new car every few years! Yes, I know it is more expensive in the long run but I make a lot of money and can afford it....just have to get past the mental block! I don't know the cost of cars. Like I said, I have a car that I hate and my payment is something like $350/month (over way too many months- but the interest rate is really low so I drag it out). ETA: I know the cost of MY car!lol I just don't know what it would cost to get a car that I don't hate. BF keeps telling me to go buy something I like but I haven't yet. Being duly notified that you insist on spending frivolously, we find we must request that you turn in your YMer card. Not only do you plan on buying a new car, rather than a perfectly serviceable two to three year old, low mileage, impeccably maintained unicorn, you plan on leasing that new car, and then you plan on doing the same every few years for the foreseeable future. Despite your financial status as a near 1%er, your spendthrift tendency is beyond all comprehension and in obvious conflict with YMer values. We look forward to receipt of your YMer card at your earliest convenience. lol! I know...does it help that I haven't actually leased anything, yet? I'm still cheap at heart :-( It is honestly the freedom that leasing gives that I like. If I don't like a car I'm not stuck with it for 10-12 years (I kept my last one 14 years but really didn't use it the last two).
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 8:00:18 GMT -5
Being duly notified that you insist on spending frivolously, we find we must request that you turn in your YMer card. Not only do you plan on buying a new car, rather than a perfectly serviceable two to three year old, low mileage, impeccably maintained unicorn, you plan on leasing that new car, and then you plan on doing the same every few years for the foreseeable future. Despite your financial status as a near 1%er, your spendthrift tendency is beyond all comprehension and in obvious conflict with YMer values. We look forward to receipt of your YMer card at your earliest convenience. lol! I know...does it help that I haven't actually leased anything, yet? I'm still cheap at heart :-( It is honestly the freedom that leasing gives that I like. If I don't like a car I'm not stuck with it for 10-12 years (I kept my last one 14 years but really didn't use it the last two). Why are you stuck with a car you buy for 10-12 years? At least if you buy you can sell it after 3 years and get money, not just turn it in for nothing.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 2, 2019 8:12:26 GMT -5
lol! I know...does it help that I haven't actually leased anything, yet? I'm still cheap at heart :-( It is honestly the freedom that leasing gives that I like. If I don't like a car I'm not stuck with it for 10-12 years (I kept my last one 14 years but really didn't use it the last two). Why are you stuck with a car you buy for 10-12 years? At least if you buy you can sell it after 3 years and get money, not just turn it in for nothing. The greatest depreciation happens in the first few years. How much are you getting for the car versus what you paid for it? I sold one car once after only 3 summers and I took a major beating on it. I would have been much better off leasing my "mid-life crisis mobile" and turning it in.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 8:31:41 GMT -5
Why are you stuck with a car you buy for 10-12 years? At least if you buy you can sell it after 3 years and get money, not just turn it in for nothing. The greatest depreciation happens in the first few years. How much are you getting for the car versus what you paid for it? I sold one car once after only 3 summers and I took a major beating on it. I would have been much better off leasing my "mid-life crisis mobile" and turning it in. I don't know. I have a hard time believing the car dealerships aren't collecting all that depreciation in the lease payments.
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