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Post by dezii on Apr 21, 2019 14:57:08 GMT -5
I don’t think they are ALL stupid. But the ones who aren’t are definitely racist and without any concern for ethicsEthics?? where are you going to find ethics in politics?? Demo's are the great one to point out Ethics You mean like Eric Holder, being held in Both Civil and Criminal contempt by the House, Or Obama using Executive Privilege to cover the Criminal act by his ATF, That resulted in the deaths of 350 Mexicans, and at least two Americans!! Ethics my ass. DFB.
This morning former NYC Mayor Rudy G on CNN today was selling his soul ...again....spouting that same refrain regarding the Donald and the importance of ethics in politics... This is the same guy who on 9/11 stood super tall as a American major, major city leader just hit by one of those tragic moments in our country's history...think Pearl Harbor...torpedoing of the Lusitania, shelling of Ft Sumpter, fall of the Alamo...but today, lost all credibility...[so sad] ---------------------------------------------------------------- www.yahoo.com/news/trump-lawyer-giuliani-says-theres-nothing-wrong-with-taking-information-from-russians-160341148.html
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 21, 2019 14:59:22 GMT -5
Ethics?? where are you going to find ethics in politics?? Demo's are the great one to point out Ethics You mean like Eric Holder, being held in Both Civil and Criminal contempt by the House, Or Obama using Executive Privilege to cover the Criminal act by his ATF, That resulted in the deaths of 350 Mexicans, and at least two Americans!! Ethics my ass. DFB.
This morning former NYC Mayor Rudy G on CNN today was selling his soul ...again....spouting that same refrain regarding the Donald and the importance of ethics in politics... This is the same guy who on 9/11 stood super tall as a American major, major city leader just hit by one of those tragic moments in our country's history...think Pearl Harbor...torpedoing of the Lusitania, shelling of Ft Sumpter, fall of the Alamo... but today, lost all credibility...[so sad]Today? That ship has sailed a long time ago.
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 21, 2019 18:29:40 GMT -5
This morning former NYC Mayor Rudy G on CNN today was selling his soul ...again....spouting that same refrain regarding the Donald and the importance of ethics in politics... This is the same guy who on 9/11 stood super tall as a American major, major city leader just hit by one of those tragic moments in our country's history...think Pearl Harbor...torpedoing of the Lusitania, shelling of Ft Sumpter, fall of the Alamo... but today, lost all credibility...[so sad]Today? That ship has sailed a long time ago. You guy's are funny.
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Post by dezii on Apr 21, 2019 19:43:16 GMT -5
This morning former NYC Mayor Rudy G on CNN today was selling his soul ...again....spouting that same refrain regarding the Donald and the importance of ethics in politics... This is the same guy who on 9/11 stood super tall as a American major, major city leader just hit by one of those tragic moments in our country's history...think Pearl Harbor...torpedoing of the Lusitania, shelling of Ft Sumpter, fall of the Alamo... but today, lost all credibility...[so sad]Today? That ship has sailed a long time ago.
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Post by dezii on Apr 21, 2019 19:48:53 GMT -5
Today? That ship has sailed a long time ago. You guy's are funny. Actually it is not funny.....your hatred of all things and folks who lean to the left is also not funny....gotten old....I have no idea on how the election of 2020 is going to end up....for it to be another four years of the Donald and his feeling of he can do no wrong scares the s__t out of me but it could happen...If he is not successful and goes quietly as is the correct way is what I would hope but from his actions since assuming the office...I have my doubts of that happening.
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Post by dezii on Apr 21, 2019 19:50:16 GMT -5
This morning former NYC Mayor Rudy G on CNN today was selling his soul ...again....spouting that same refrain regarding the Donald and the importance of ethics in politics... This is the same guy who on 9/11 stood super tall as a American major, major city leader just hit by one of those tragic moments in our country's history...think Pearl Harbor...torpedoing of the Lusitania, shelling of Ft Sumpter, fall of the Alamo...but today, lost all credibility...[so sad] I am to the point that I am disappointed that they had him on there at all. His performance was ridiculous. I saw it and in my opinion it was a dis-service to even use the venue for disseminating that crapola.
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 21, 2019 23:24:13 GMT -5
Annnd in the end,,, it was wind and rabbit tracks!!! Two years of hard investigating only to find nothing there!!
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 21, 2019 23:46:55 GMT -5
don't give a crap about the conspiracy charge any more.
on to obstruction.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 22, 2019 7:02:57 GMT -5
So have you found collusion or obstruction yet?? Drowning grasping for straws,,,
We can nit pick every word of the report and go back and forth with it...will probably do so...but the attitude of one respected Republican is interesting and telling to me...in fact should be to all fair minded folks..[realize that is asking for bit much regarding some ...also definitely here.. ============================ "Republican Sen. Mitt Romney said the conduct by President Donald Trump and his campaign outlined in special counsel Robert Mueller's report left him "sickened" and "appalled" — marking one of the first prominent Republicans to make such critical comments of the president in the aftermath of the blockbuster investigation."www.yahoo.com/news/gop-sen-mitt-romney-apos-211406814.htmlRomney lost to Obama. He should still be embarrassed and in hiding for that one.
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Post by dezii on Apr 22, 2019 7:43:47 GMT -5
We can nit pick every word of the report and go back and forth with it...will probably do so...but the attitude of one respected Republican is interesting and telling to me...in fact should be to all fair minded folks..[realize that is asking for bit much regarding some ...also definitely here.. ============================ "Republican Sen. Mitt Romney said the conduct by President Donald Trump and his campaign outlined in special counsel Robert Mueller's report left him "sickened" and "appalled" — marking one of the first prominent Republicans to make such critical comments of the president in the aftermath of the blockbuster investigation."www.yahoo.com/news/gop-sen-mitt-romney-apos-211406814.htmlRomney lost to Obama. He should still be embarrassed and in hiding for that one. Again, as always, your wrong..[sigh...gets old] President Obama is more popular today and climbing then when he was still President...That not in your book since when is that important...That Romney lost to the man is not a surprise...not sure who would beat him even with the race card thrown in which is still such a big deal in this country... Not that his wife would allow it...believe she has had it in that fish bowl....but it would be neat to see him run against our present POTUS....Personally, since it seems we are seeing younger and younger folks declaring themselves rubbing for that office...after serving two terms...if one leaves office for one term...would be in favor in a former POTUS being able to run again...for at least one term if not two.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 22, 2019 7:48:01 GMT -5
Annnd in the end,,, it was wind and rabbit tracks!!! Two years of hard investigating only to find nothing there!!
Read the report. It is available, and free to download. Trump is make your eyes pop guilty. "Worse than Watergate!" - now there is a scintillating review right there! Anonymous Source wants us to watch a one hour video about Seattle but won't even bother reading the first page of the Mueller report.
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Post by oped on Apr 22, 2019 8:16:20 GMT -5
We can nit pick every word of the report and go back and forth with it...will probably do so...but the attitude of one respected Republican is interesting and telling to me...in fact should be to all fair minded folks..[realize that is asking for bit much regarding some ...also definitely here.. ============================ "Republican Sen. Mitt Romney said the conduct by President Donald Trump and his campaign outlined in special counsel Robert Mueller's report left him "sickened" and "appalled" — marking one of the first prominent Republicans to make such critical comments of the president in the aftermath of the blockbuster investigation."www.yahoo.com/news/gop-sen-mitt-romney-apos-211406814.htmlRomney lost to Obama. He should still be embarrassed and in hiding for that one. Romney got a higher percentage of vote against Obama than Trump did against Clinton... Trump won through lies and manipulation. Wanna talk small pools... its people who actually like or respect Trump. Shallow waters of the murkiest sort.
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Post by swamp on Apr 22, 2019 8:24:51 GMT -5
Annnd in the end,,, it was wind and rabbit tracks!!! Two years of hard investigating only to find nothing there!!
did you actually read the report? Like, read it for yourself? It does not flatter Trump at all.
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 22, 2019 8:42:38 GMT -5
Annnd in the end,,, it was wind and rabbit tracks!!! Two years of hard investigating only to find nothing there!!
did you actually read the report? Like, read it for yourself? It does not flatter Trump at all. Yes I did read it, It said over and over they could not find actual proof! Or do I need to turn my glasses around, Take a Left sided view of the report? Did the report say or not,, every time they start down the road on what appears to be a good lead,, other find a dead end!
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Post by swamp on Apr 22, 2019 9:02:29 GMT -5
did you actually read the report? Like, read it for yourself? It does not flatter Trump at all. Yes I did read it, It said over and over they could not find actual proof! Or do I need to turn my glasses around, Take a Left sided view of the report? Did the report say or not,, every time they start down the road on what appears to be a good lead,, other find a dead end!
No, you have to read the part where it says, "we cannot exonerate him." They also refer to the law where a sitting president cannot be indicted.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 22, 2019 9:10:13 GMT -5
Yes I did read it, It said over and over they could not find actual proof! Or do I need to turn my glasses around, Take a Left sided view of the report? Did the report say or not,, every time they start down the road on what appears to be a good lead,, other find a dead end!
No, you have to read the part where it says, "we cannot exonerate him." They also refer to the law where a sitting president cannot be indicted. No. He has not read any part of the report. Reading trump's Tweets is not the same as reading the entire Mueller report.
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 22, 2019 9:13:06 GMT -5
Yes I did read it, It said over and over they could not find actual proof! Or do I need to turn my glasses around, Take a Left sided view of the report? Did the report say or not,, every time they start down the road on what appears to be a good lead,, other find a dead end!
No, you have to read the part where it says, "we cannot exonerate him." They also refer to the law where a sitting president cannot be indicted. Did they say they had the proof to indite him? Now or after he leaves office?
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Post by oped on Apr 22, 2019 9:29:05 GMT -5
Yes. Actually. Footnote. Page 390. Also... Mueller specifically said. 1) I do not have the power to charge him on obstruction. 2) I do have the power to find there is not sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction. 3) I cannot say that there is not sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction.
After that he basically said it becomes Congress's power to handle the issue, as there is an issue which needs to be addressed.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 22, 2019 9:35:57 GMT -5
Yes. Actually. Footnote. Page 390. Also... Mueller specifically said. 1) I do not have the power to charge him on obstruction. 2) I do have the power to find there is not sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction. 3) I cannot say that there is not sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction. After that he basically said it becomes Congress's power to handle the issue, as there is an issue which needs to be addressed. That double negative thing is tricky.
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Post by dezii on Apr 22, 2019 9:45:22 GMT -5
Annnd in the end,,, it was wind and rabbit tracks!!! Two years of hard investigating only to find nothing there!!
Wrong again...plenty wrong found...Important folks going to prison...plus many questions not answered...letting Congress decide and on a talk show Saturday [smerconish]...,question asked if the Mueller investigation needed ...almost 18,000 responded in less then a hour...86 % were positive on the necessity of the Mueller investigation...so there is a good example of how American public feels about this...granted not as u feel but since when does your bias count? Please don't attempt to suggest this commentator is a leftist...anything but and he gets plenty of dissing from both sides. ==================================== www.cnn.com/shows/smerconish
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 22, 2019 9:50:20 GMT -5
Borrowed from Ahams thread. Geeeees,Dezii,, what if all your writing about Trump's pee tape was nothing but Russian fabrication??
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 22, 2019 10:27:42 GMT -5
No, you have to read the part where it says, "we cannot exonerate him." They also refer to the law where a sitting president cannot be indicted. Did they say they had the proof to indite him? Now or after he leaves office?
that is how I took the 10 points and 182 pages on obstruction.
how did YOU take them?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 22, 2019 10:29:07 GMT -5
Yes. Actually. Footnote. Page 390. Also... Mueller specifically said. 1) I do not have the power to charge him on obstruction. 2) I do have the power to find there is not sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction. 3) I cannot say that there is not sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction.
After that he basically said it becomes Congress's power to handle the issue, as there is an issue which needs to be addressed. I think this is Mueller's way of saying that there actually IS sufficient grounds, but I can't charge him.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 22, 2019 11:01:47 GMT -5
Did they say they had the proof to indite him? Now or after he leaves office?
that is how I took the 10 points and 182 pages on obstruction.
how did YOU take them?
Worthy of awarding to himself the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
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Post by oped on Apr 22, 2019 12:25:16 GMT -5
Yes. Actually. Footnote. Page 390. Also... Mueller specifically said. 1) I do not have the power to charge him on obstruction. 2) I do have the power to find there is not sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction. 3) I cannot say that there is not sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction.
After that he basically said it becomes Congress's power to handle the issue, as there is an issue which needs to be addressed. I think this is Mueller's way of saying that there actually IS sufficient grounds, but I can't charge him. Definitely
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Post by dezii on Apr 23, 2019 10:03:20 GMT -5
The crying towels will be released to mass media and democrats immediately afterwards. Please ask for an extra one! It seems the American public, less those who will never find anything wrong with the Donald...including his own statement that he could commit murder on 5th Ave in NYC and witnesses if his followers would never admit seeing him do the crime...after the release of the Mueller report ...and the Donald crowing out how he is vindicated...nothing wrong as far as himself doing bad...but his approval ratings have dropped to lowest ever....over 5 plus points ...rating about 35%...so guess Public not buying it that he is innocent of all charges as he claims... =============================== "President Donald Trump’s approval rating plunged to below 40% after Thursday’s release of a redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report, according to two new polls.
A Reuters/Ipsos survey, conducted Thursday afternoon to Friday morning, found that Trump’s approval rating had dropped to 37% ― a decline of 3 percentage points from a similar poll days earlier. Reuters described the new rating as the president’s lowest of 2019. "
"A poll jointly conducted by Politico and Morning Consult Friday through Sunday found 39% of voters approved of Trump’s job performance — a 5-point drop from the previous week. That equaled Trump’s lowest-ever approval rating in Politico/Morning Consult polls, which he received in August 2017 following the white supremacist violence in Charlottesville."--------------------------------------------------- www.yahoo.com/news/trump-approval-ratings-mueller-report-102325460.html
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 23, 2019 12:14:58 GMT -5
I know this is really grinding his ass, too, because he's been tweeting about it lately.
Clinton oversaw a really great economy, too, and they still impeached him (or tried to). But since Trump never learned history and has short term memory loss, I doubt he remember it. He just wants to piss and moan about how mean the 'bad, sick and corrupt' Dems are.
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