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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 14, 2019 19:37:15 GMT -5
Someone else is dating their palm now?
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 14, 2019 19:39:37 GMT -5
Before I could really make a judgement, I would want to sit through a trial.
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Post by oped on Apr 14, 2019 19:41:57 GMT -5
Sounds like it was collectibles.
I don’t know what I’d do? Besides not collect porn or leave a porn collection st my parents... it is a lot of money though, if the valuation is accurate... still, takes some kind of balls to publically sue your parents for this...
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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 14, 2019 19:42:34 GMT -5
I said that if the collection were that valuable and important to him, he should have moved it himself.
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Post by oped on Apr 14, 2019 19:49:18 GMT -5
Hard to tell value if you don’t know what you are looking at. I could see my dad just toss a box of sons old video games but there are some worth quite a bit (not thousands, still...)
I took boxes of books to a friend this week because her mom is selling the childhood house. She said her husband would probably bebpissed but holy bonanza Batman... I looked up a few that were prices 10-25$ a piece... I said pick what you want and call a collector... glad I took them and looked it up before her husband came home and tossed them.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 14, 2019 20:02:23 GMT -5
40 yr old man moving in with Mommie and daddy even if temporary makes me want to puke. And then he expected Mommie and daddy to bring his stuff to him. Cry me a river big ass tittie baby. Go sit in a corner and indulge.
Should have taken care of his own stuff like an adult. Wonder why he got divorced and why he hasn't been identified? Is he ashamed?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 20:06:48 GMT -5
I can't imagine asking your parents to move your porn collection. I also can't imagine suing them over it. I don't get why he's suing for triple the estimated value either. Does he really think that is the future value or something?
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 14, 2019 20:21:29 GMT -5
40 yr old man moving in with Mommie and daddy even if temporary makes me want to puke. And then he expected Mommie and daddy to bring his stuff to him. Cry me a river big ass tittie baby. Go sit in a corner and indulge. Should have taken care of his own stuff like an adult. Wonder why he got divorced and why he hasn't been identified? Is he ashamed? I love the auto correct that pro boards did on my post. Didn't know I had committed a no no! My bad!
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 14, 2019 20:28:24 GMT -5
40 yr old man moving in with Mommie and daddy even if temporary makes me want to puke. And then he expected Mommie and daddy to bring his stuff to him. Cry me a river big ass tittie baby. Go sit in a corner and indulge. Should have taken care of his own stuff like an adult. Wonder why he got divorced and why he hasn't been identified? Is he ashamed? He was unemployed for a year and had used all his savings on living expenses for his family. He got a new job in another state that started in a couple of months. His ex-wife refused to move because she didn't want to give up her boyfriend. Every place he found to rent required a year's lease. His parents were retired and offered to bring him his stuff because they were looking for things to do to fill their days.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 14, 2019 20:35:29 GMT -5
40 yr old man moving in with Mommie and daddy even if temporary makes me want to puke. And then he expected Mommie and daddy to bring his stuff to him. Cry me a river big ass tittie baby. Go sit in a corner and indulge. Should have taken care of his own stuff like an adult. Wonder why he got divorced and why he hasn't been identified? Is he ashamed? He was unemployed for a year and had used all his savings on living expenses for his family. He got a new job in another state that started in a couple of months. His ex-wife refused to move because she didn't want to give up her boyfriend. Every place he found to rent required a year's lease. His parents were retired and offered to bring him his stuff because they were looking for things to do to fill their days. Didn't see any of that in the link provided. Maybe short version came across on iPad?? Small screen and all that.
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Post by oped on Apr 14, 2019 20:38:22 GMT -5
Or it’s just reading in a different set of hypotheticals.,,
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 14, 2019 20:42:30 GMT -5
He was unemployed for a year and had used all his savings on living expenses for his family. He got a new job in another state that started in a couple of months. His ex-wife refused to move because she didn't want to give up her boyfriend. Every place he found to rent required a year's lease. His parents were retired and offered to bring him his stuff because they were looking for things to do to fill their days. Didn't see any of that in the link provided. Maybe short version came across on iPad?? Small screen and all that. Actually, there were no details in the article that appeared on my screen. I just decided I would type positive instead of ripping on a fellow human being in a situation that I know next to nothing about.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 14, 2019 21:22:14 GMT -5
Didn't see any of that in the link provided. Maybe short version came across on iPad?? Small screen and all that. Actually, there were no details in the article that appeared on my screen. I just decided I would type positive instead of ripping on a fellow human being in a situation that I know next to nothing about. Here's some information. Ottawa county, where the parents live, is quite churchy conservative pretty much throughout the county. There are farms scattered throughout, taking up probably 1/2 the area, if I were to hazard a guess. It's a more well-to-do area, that has more of a preppy look, even in this day and age. It is very nice, but not particularly fun in an artistic, tolerant way, if you catch my drift. My educated guess is that these parents are also churchy conservative. I would also hazard a guess that this son is at least somewhat aware of his parents attitudes and tolerance for this sort of thing, since he's likely lived with them for some portion of his life.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 15, 2019 6:56:15 GMT -5
Didn't see any of that in the link provided. Maybe short version came across on iPad?? Small screen and all that. Actually, there were no details in the article that appeared on my screen. I just decided I would type positive instead of ripping on a fellow human being in a situation that I know next to nothing about. Well, I have to admit that if I was sitting in the jury box with you as his attorney and the story you wrote I might actually consider giving the man compensation for his lost collectable porn collection. By chance are you an attorney in real life?
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Post by lund on Apr 15, 2019 8:19:20 GMT -5
Wonder how the parents found the collection? Did they open boxes taped shut to rummage through them? If so, how maturely and respectfully they were behaving!
Having such a collection, even if many (me included) would see it as morally deplorable, is legal. The law has to be respected.
Taking somebody else's stuff and throwing it away, when the agreement was to store and transport it, is IMO theft.
The parents could have refused to transport it, or asked the son to come and get a.s.a.p., or rented storage for it if they did not want it under their roof.
If he used his savings for paying for his children, this collection might have been something that he could, and would, sell if necessary. I think that (beside the moral aspects), it is similar to that many women probably would hang on to some of their jewelry as "last resort" possessions.
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Post by gs11rmb on Apr 15, 2019 8:23:39 GMT -5
Wonder how the parents found the collection? Did they open boxes taped shut to rummage through them? If so, how maturely and respectfully they were behaving! Having such a collection, even if many (me included) would see it as morally deplorable, is legal. The law has to be respected. Taking somebody else's stuff and throwing it away, when the agreement was to store and transport it, is IMO theft. The parents could have refused to transport it, or asked the son to come and get a.s.a.p., or rented storage for it if they did not want it under their roof. If he used his savings for paying for his children, this collection might have been something that he could, and would, sell if necessary. I think that (beside the moral aspects), it is similar to that many women probably would hang on to some of their jewelry as "last resort" possessions. In general I don't disagree. However, I think he's largely overestimating the value of the collection. Admittedly, I don't actually know, but is there such a thing as high value porn? He may have paid $29,000 for it over the years but that doesn't mean that's what it's worth.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 15, 2019 8:24:47 GMT -5
Wonder how the parents found the collection? Did they open boxes taped shut to rummage through them? If so, how maturely and respectfully they were behaving! Having such a collection, even if many (me included) would see it as morally deplorable, is legal. The law has to be respected. Taking somebody else's stuff and throwing it away, when the agreement was to store and transport it, is IMO theft. The parents could have refused to transport it, or asked the son to come and get a.s.a.p., or rented storage for it if they did not want it under their roof. If he used his savings for paying for his children, this collection might have been something that he could, and would, sell if necessary. I think that (beside the moral aspects), it is similar to that many women probably would hang on to some of their jewelry as "last resort" possessions. What children?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 8:25:51 GMT -5
Wonder how the parents found the collection? Did they open boxes taped shut to rummage through them? If so, how maturely and respectfully they were behaving! Having such a collection, even if many (me included) would see it as morally deplorable, is legal. The law has to be respected. Taking somebody else's stuff and throwing it away, when the agreement was to store and transport it, is IMO theft. The parents could have refused to transport it, or asked the son to come and get a.s.a.p., or rented storage for it if they did not want it under their roof. If he used his savings for paying for his children, this collection might have been something that he could, and would, sell if necessary. I think that (beside the moral aspects), it is similar to that many women probably would hang on to some of their jewelry as "last resort" possessions. What children? The hypothetical ones.
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Post by lund on Apr 15, 2019 8:28:59 GMT -5
He may very well be - we can't know -, but there are antique and collectible items of that kind too.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 15, 2019 8:30:00 GMT -5
Ok, so ignoring it was porn, if the story is accurate, it's kind of shitty of the parents. It sounds like the father's response was "I did you a favor getting rid of that stuff". It's one thing if the parents thought it was a bunch of old crappy magazines, or VHS tapes, and simply thought "oh, it's trash, toss it out". Sounds like it was more like "I don't approve of this, I'm going to get rid of it, even though I know the owner clearly wants it". That's not ok, regardless of their personal beliefs on the items (assuming it's not illegal items, then it's hard to file a lawsuit though!).
You don't get to throw things away that someone has entrusted you with, that you seem to have accepted responsibility for, simply because you don't like the things. That doesn't mean it's worth what he says, or that he's entitled to triple damages, or that it's worth suing your parents over...but what they did does not sound ok.
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Post by gs11rmb on Apr 15, 2019 8:31:48 GMT -5
Well, does someone who is not using their work computer want to Google and find out the cost of purchasing a copy of "Big Bad Grannies" .
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 15, 2019 8:37:39 GMT -5
Well, does someone who is not using their work computer want to Google and find out the cost of purchasing a copy of "Big Bad Grannies" . I just googled collectible porn. Have to admit that I didn't open any links but they are out there. I wonder if he had homeowners insurance on the "collectible porn"? Why not file a claim? And if it was that valuable why not have it in a safe deposit box or two or three for safe keeping. Be interesting if it ever comes out what "kind" of porn it was. Adult, kiddie, doggie whatever. Guess mom and dad may have destroyed all the evidence if it ever reaches court.
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Post by gs11rmb on Apr 15, 2019 8:40:13 GMT -5
Well, does someone who is not using their work computer want to Google and find out the cost of purchasing a copy of "Big Bad Grannies" . I just googled collectible porn. Have to admit that I didn't open any links but they are out there. I wonder if he had homeowners insurance on the "collectible porn"? Why not file a claim? And if it was that valuable why not have it in a safe deposit box or two or three for safe keeping. Be interesting if it ever comes out what "kind" of porn it was. Adult, kiddie, doggie whatever. Guess mom and dad may have destroyed all the evidence if it ever reaches court. It has to be adult. One can't sue to recover illegal material.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 15, 2019 8:47:04 GMT -5
I just googled collectible porn. Have to admit that I didn't open any links but they are out there. I wonder if he had homeowners insurance on the "collectible porn"? Why not file a claim? And if it was that valuable why not have it in a safe deposit box or two or three for safe keeping. Be interesting if it ever comes out what "kind" of porn it was. Adult, kiddie, doggie whatever. Guess mom and dad may have destroyed all the evidence if it ever reaches court. It has to be adult. One can't sue to recover illegal material. It's been thrown away so unless Mom and Dad watched it to say it was illegal he can sue all he wants to since it's his word against theirs that it was legal. And we all know how the legal system works. It's who has the best attorney not what is right/wrong/legal/illegal.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 15, 2019 8:50:28 GMT -5
It has to be adult. One can't sue to recover illegal material. It's been thrown away so unless Mom and Dad watched it to say it was illegal he can sue all he wants to since it's his word against theirs that it was legal. And we all know how the legal system works. It's who has the best attorney not what is right/wrong/legal/illegal. Yes, but he's still likely to need proof of what he had, and that he actually purchased it, so that he can prove damages. Of course he can do the same as what I could do today, pick out a random person and say "I had a bunch of priceless stuff that I have no proof of, make them give me money". But if the plan is to sue them over stuff he never actually had...well nothing had to happen for that. He could just random sue anyone for that.
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Post by andi9899 on Apr 15, 2019 8:54:46 GMT -5
Well, does someone who is not using their work computer want to Google and find out the cost of purchasing a copy of "Big Bad Grannies" . I nominate you. I can't look.
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Post by resolution on Apr 15, 2019 9:00:57 GMT -5
OK for my risky click of the day, the first Google response to "Big Bad Grannies" was an offer to watch it for free on three sites.
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Post by resolution on Apr 15, 2019 9:09:27 GMT -5
The article said he had left 12 boxes of films and magazines at their house for them to deliver to him. I couldn't imagine putting my parents to that much work for something they would disapprove of, and something potentially so unsanitary.
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Post by alabamagal on Apr 15, 2019 9:19:38 GMT -5
I am also thinking he is way overvaluing his collection. Items which cost a lot a when purchased many years ago (VCR tapes anyone?) are not necessarily valuable now, and a lot of it is available for free now.
DH is a collector of several sci-fi shows. He bought VCR collections, DVD collections. We still have them and I give up on suggesting he dispose of them as worthless. To him they are priceless.
I’m thinking a porn collection might be similar.
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