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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 14, 2019 9:31:38 GMT -5
Some People Did Something!
You have to be kidding , Pelosi takes Trump to task, defends Omar?? 2977 people died, over 6000 injured,, Annnnnnd Some people did something!!!
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 14, 2019 9:39:43 GMT -5
Now Outraged, Trump Boasted On 9/11 That His Building Was Tallest After AttackAppallingly insensitive — and false, Democratic strategist Paul Begala recalls after the president tries to bash Rep. Ilhan Omar using images of the terrorist strike. President Donald Trump is expressing outrage now about 9/11 through a controversial attempt to use the tragedy to slam Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), but his grief wasn’t quite so obvious right after the terrorist attacks. At the time, Trump gloated that his building at 40 Wall St. had become the tallest in New York City with the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. Not only was the statement appallingly insensitive, but it was also a lie, former Democratic political strategist and CNN political contributor Paul Begala told Chris Cuomo on Friday. “This guy has no moral standing ever to try to use our greatest day of national pain for his political gain,” Begala said. “Before the bodies had been cleared or identified, before the wounded had been treated, [Trump] went on television ... and he said: ‘Well, my building at 40 Wall Street is now the tallest building in America,’” Begala recalled. “He bragged about it; it wasn’t true. And it was appallingly bad taste.” (Hear Begala’s comments at 3:12 in the video above.) Now Outraged, Trump Boasted On 9/11 That His Building Was Tallest After Attack
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 14, 2019 10:30:03 GMT -5
Ahhh, yes, Nothing Omar said will be heard by the Demo base,, But everything Trump said even eighteen years ago in a non political casual setting, will be heard and echoed forever! Really?? What Rights did Omar lose?? Her Civil Liberties?? only in her mind is she a second class citizen,, From her comments,, What are Jew's third or forth class?? She is a racist, and refuses to acknowledge that Muslims were the ones that killed 2977 and injured 6000 more!! Her intent is the same as the one's that flew the airplanes into the World Trade Center on 911 Destroy America, All you have to do is look at her actions!! Some People Did Something
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 14, 2019 11:16:36 GMT -5
... Muslims were the ones that killed 2977 and injured 6000 more!! ... Some People Did Something True. Muslims were also heros and victims of the terrorist attack on 9/11. Never forget, these Muslims died saving lives on 9/11I can understand her intent in the wording she used was to highlight it was individuals who attacked. But she should have realized how it would be used against her and not worded it that way.
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Post by oped on Apr 14, 2019 11:29:07 GMT -5
And Bush once refered to the perpetrators as ‘people who knocked these buildings down‘... see how taking a phase out of context of larger speech and actions means jack fucking shit... ?
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Post by oped on Apr 14, 2019 11:34:12 GMT -5
Amazing how that inflames you... but trump and Kushner selling weapons and military information to the country that actually perpetrated the attack’s is a-ok.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 14, 2019 12:25:51 GMT -5
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/14/ilhan-omar-republicans-silence
Trump has been virulently anti-Muslim since he entered the campaign. Remember that part of his platform was the Muslim travel ban. Omar is an especially attractive target for him because she's not only Muslim, she's female. He will be tweeting inflammatory statements about her from now until he's defeated in the 2020 election (or until some frenzied whack job assassinates her) to throw raw meat at his base.
There's been a rise in hate crimes, most of it related to religious hate crimes, since Trump took office. This is not an accidental result, this is due to Trump specifically targeting those minorities he knows will get the biggest reaction from his base. Let's all pray, whatever our religion is, that none of the Trump voting base decides Omar (or any other Muslim Americans) needs to go. www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/apr/03/hate-crimes-are-increasingly-reported-us/
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 14, 2019 22:11:33 GMT -5
Amazing how that inflames you... but trump and Kushner selling weapons and military information to the country that actually perpetrated the attack’s is a-ok. 9-11- 2001 That day I was headed for work, over the radio it was announced the an airplane had crashed into the World Trade Center. I turned around went back home , turned on the TV in time to see the second plane fly into the Trade Center! My Country was under attack,, I can not express the anger I felt towards who ever did this. Obviously you could care less,, as does Omar!! Yea, Some one did something. it was such a trivial little thing!
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 14, 2019 22:15:14 GMT -5
... Muslims were the ones that killed 2977 and injured 6000 more!! ... Some People Did Something True. Muslims were also heros and victims of the terrorist attack on 9/11. Never forget, these Muslims died saving lives on 9/11I can understand her intent in the wording she used was to highlight it was individuals who attacked. But she should have realized how it would be used against her and not worded it that way. Yea ,I see you managed to find two Muslim heroes out of the thousands of other heroes, that were there!
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 14, 2019 22:32:52 GMT -5
True. Muslims were also heros and victims of the terrorist attack on 9/11. Never forget, these Muslims died saving lives on 9/11I can understand her intent in the wording she used was to highlight it was individuals who attacked. But she should have realized how it would be used against her and not worded it that way. Yea ,I see you managed to find two Muslim heroes out of the thousands of other heroes, that were there! And you found nineteen Muslim terrorists out of millions of Muslims in the United States.
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 14, 2019 22:44:33 GMT -5
Yea ,I see you managed to find two Muslim heroes out of the thousands of other heroes, that were there! And you found nineteen Muslim terrorists out of millions of Muslims in the United States. Those nineteen managed to kill almost three thousand people, none of which had done anything harmful against them.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 14, 2019 22:52:03 GMT -5
And you found nineteen Muslim terrorists out of millions of Muslims in the United States. Those nineteen managed to kill almost three thousand people, none of which had done anything harmful against them. Yes, those nineteen people did.
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Post by mroped on Apr 14, 2019 23:02:06 GMT -5
Those nineteen weren’t American citizens. They were citizens of a country whith which we maintained cordial relations while invading two that had nothing to do with 9/11. But that doesn’t count! Neither is the over 500000 that we killed after that. The 3000 are important because they were Americans. All others are from some shithole country.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 15, 2019 7:26:46 GMT -5
Amazing how that inflames you... but trump and Kushner selling weapons and military information to the country that actually perpetrated the attack’s is a-ok. 9-11- 2001 That day I was headed for work, over the radio it was announced the an airplane had crashed into the World Trade Center. I turned around went back home , turned on the TV in time to see the second plane fly into the Trade Center! My Country was under attack,, I can not express the anger I felt towards who ever did this. Obviously you could care less,, as does Omar!! Yea, Some one did something. it was such a trivial little thing!
Did you go back and find the video of her whole statement, or are you just running with this cherry picked phrase Trump cut and pasted from her speech?
If you listen to the sentences that come before and after this phrase, she's talking about something completely different.
Remember when Trump, when talking to a group of Jewish people, referred to the Israeli PM as 'your PM' ? Was he implying Jews have more allegiance to Israel than they do to the US? Why is Trump ok with Jews having allegiance to Israel, but he's ready to jump on Muslims that he claims don't have allegiance to the US?
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 15, 2019 7:58:12 GMT -5
Those nineteen weren’t American citizens. They were citizens of a country whith which we maintained cordial relations while invading two that had nothing to do with 9/11. But that doesn’t count! Neither is the over 500000 that we killed after that. The 3000 are important because they were Americans. All others are from some shithole country. The Complete blame goes to Osama bin Laden, If he had not attacked America, with the planes crashing into the World Trade Center,
We would have not invaded those two Countries! Place the blame directly where it belongs. Or we can again trivialize the attack on the World trade Center , with Some people Did Something,,,
or means nothing now that it happened so long ago.
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 15, 2019 8:02:36 GMT -5
9-11- 2001 That day I was headed for work, over the radio it was announced the an airplane had crashed into the World Trade Center. I turned around went back home , turned on the TV in time to see the second plane fly into the Trade Center! My Country was under attack,, I can not express the anger I felt towards who ever did this. Obviously you could care less,, as does Omar!! Yea, Some one did something. it was such a trivial little thing!
Did you go back and find the video of her whole statement, or are you just running with this cherry picked phrase Trump cut and pasted from her speech?
If you listen to the sentences that come before and after this phrase, she's talking about something completely different.
Remember when Trump, when talking to a group of Jewish people, referred to the Israeli PM as 'your PM' ? Was he implying Jews have more allegiance to Israel than they do to the US? Why is Trump ok with Jews having allegiance to Israel, but he's ready to jump on Muslims that he claims don't have allegiance to the US?
You entire argument trying to make excuses for Omar, is,,, Trump did,, trump did,,, Trump did,,, is that it??
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Post by oped on Apr 15, 2019 8:02:44 GMT -5
Hijackers by Airplane:
American Airlines Flight 11
Mohamed Atta - Egypt, tactical leader of 9/11 plot and pilot
Abdul Aziz al Omari - Saudi Arabia
Wail al Shehri - Saudi Arabia
Waleed al Shehri - Saudi Arabia
Satam al Suqami - Saudi Arabia
United Airlines Flight 175
Fayez Banihammad - United Arab Emirates
Ahmed al Ghamdi - Saudi Arabia
Hamza al Ghamdi - Saudi Arabia
Marwan al Shehhi - United Arab Emirates, pilot
Mohand al Shehri - Saudi Arabia
American Airlines Flight 77
Hani Hanjour - Saudi Arabia, pilot
Nawaf al Hazmi - Saudi Arabia
Salem al Hazmi - Saudi Arabia
Khalid al Mihdhar - Saudi Arabia
Majed Moqed - Saudi Arabia
United Airlines Flight 93
Saeed al Ghamdi - Saudi Arabia
Ahmad al Haznawi - Saudi Arabia
Ziad Jarrah - Lebanon, pilot
Ahmed al Nami - Saudi Arabia
Hijackers by Nationality:
Egypt
Mohamed Atta
Lebanon
Ziad Jarrah
Saudi Arabia
Ahmed al Ghamdi
Hamza al Ghamdi
Saeed al Ghamdi
Hani Hanjour
Nawaf al Hazmi
Salem al Hazmi
Ahmad al Haznawi
Ahmed al Nami
Khalid al Mihdhar
Majed Moqed
Abdul Aziz al Omari
Mohand al Shehri
Wail al Shehri
Waleed al Shehri
Satam al Suqami
United Arab Emirates
Fayez Banihammad
Marwan al Shehhi
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Post by oped on Apr 15, 2019 8:04:07 GMT -5
Did you go back and find the video of her whole statement, or are you just running with this cherry picked phrase Trump cut and pasted from her speech?
If you listen to the sentences that come before and after this phrase, she's talking about something completely different.
Remember when Trump, when talking to a group of Jewish people, referred to the Israeli PM as 'your PM' ? Was he implying Jews have more allegiance to Israel than they do to the US? Why is Trump ok with Jews having allegiance to Israel, but he's ready to jump on Muslims that he claims don't have allegiance to the US?
You entire argument trying to make excuses for Omar, is,,, Trump did,, trump did,,, Trump did,,, is that it?? No. It's pretty much you are a low information person who is willing to take propaganda at face value and not gather all of the information or think critically...
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 15, 2019 8:06:11 GMT -5
Those nineteen weren’t American citizens. They were citizens of a country whith which we maintained cordial relations while invading two that had nothing to do with 9/11. But that doesn’t count! Neither is the over 500000 that we killed after that. The 3000 are important because they were Americans. All others are from some shithole country. The Complete blame goes to Osama bin Laden, If he had not attacked America, with the planes crashing into the World Trade Center,
We would have not invaded those two Countries! Place the blame directly where it belongs. Or we can again trivialize the attack on the World trade Center , with Some people Did Something,,,
or means nothing now that it happened so long ago.
No one is arguing with you that Osama bin Laden gets the complete blame for the WTC attack.
No one, including Omar, has trivialized the attacks. Go look at the whole video of her speech.
You're letting Trump jerk your chain. He keeps getting away with horrible shit because he can successfully stir up fear against browns and Muslims - time to stop rising to the bait. He's a terrible person trying to cloak his criminal and/or immoral behavior behind a patriotic façade.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 15, 2019 8:06:28 GMT -5
People, I bet if you go back to that fateful day, and the next few weeks most of us had very emotional reactions to this attack. It was not just NYC. It was D.C. and potentially the WH, except for some brave American souls that made sure the plane went down before it could do it in a field in Pennsylvania. If you cannot say this was a group of extremist Muslims, then you have the problem. Remember posters here have no problem calling out white males for blowing up buildings or mass shootings, who have no religious affiliations, or far right white religious groups for their misdeeds and label them accordingly. A terorist Muslim who professes his faith to Allah before killing is still a Muslim.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 15, 2019 8:57:33 GMT -5
... refuses to acknowledge that Muslims were the ones that killed 2977 and injured 6000 more!! ... ... If you cannot say this was a group of extremist Muslims, then you have the problem. ... I have no problem with identifying them as "a group", "a group of extremist(s), or "a group of extremist Muslims". My issue is with identifying them simply as "Muslims".
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 15, 2019 9:09:29 GMT -5
People, I bet if you go back to that fateful day, and the next few weeks most of us had very emotional reactions to this attack. It was not just NYC. It was D.C. and potentially the WH, except for some brave American souls that made sure the plane went down before it could do it in a field in Pennsylvania. If you cannot say this was a group of extremist Muslims, then you have the problem. Remember posters here have no problem calling out white males for blowing up buildings or mass shootings, who have no religious affiliations, or far right white religious groups for their misdeeds and label them accordingly. A terorist Muslim who professes his faith to Allah before killing is still a Muslim. A terorist Christian who professes his faith to God/Jesus Christ before killing is still a Christian, right?
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 15, 2019 10:35:24 GMT -5
People, I bet if you go back to that fateful day, and the next few weeks most of us had very emotional reactions to this attack. It was not just NYC. It was D.C. and potentially the WH, except for some brave American souls that made sure the plane went down before it could do it in a field in Pennsylvania. If you cannot say this was a group of extremist Muslims, then you have the problem. Remember posters here have no problem calling out white males for blowing up buildings or mass shootings, who have no religious affiliations, or far right white religious groups for their misdeeds and label them accordingly. A terorist Muslim who professes his faith to Allah before killing is still a Muslim. A terorist Christian who professes his faith to God/Jesus Christ before killing is still a Christian, right? Mortals like you or I will disagree with this. Here we go about making it religious......I am over and out.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 15, 2019 10:44:38 GMT -5
A terorist Christian who professes his faith to God/Jesus Christ before killing is still a Christian, right? Mortals like you or I will disagree with this. Here we go about making it religious......I am over and out. Are you capable of even hearing yourself? I didn't introduce religion. You did. You wrote (before I replied): "A terorist Muslim who professes his faith to Allah before killing is still a Muslim."You are right; you are out. Remember that.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 15, 2019 10:47:53 GMT -5
Mortals like you or I will disagree with this. Here we go about making it religious......I am over and out. Are you capable of even hearing yourself? I didn't introduce religion. You did. You wrote (before I replied): "A terorist Muslim who professes his faith to Allah before killing is still a Muslim."You are right; you are out. Remember that. I knew that. I was not singling you out. Just did not want a monitor smacking me......
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 15, 2019 10:53:11 GMT -5
Are you capable of even hearing yourself? I didn't introduce religion. You did. You wrote (before I replied): "A terorist Muslim who professes his faith to Allah before killing is still a Muslim."You are right; you are out. Remember that. I knew that. I was not singling you out. Just did not want a monitor smacking me...... But you did single me out.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 15, 2019 10:53:35 GMT -5
Mortals like you or I will disagree with this. Here we go about making it religious......I am over and out. ... I didn't introduce religion. You did. ... Actually, it was OldCoyote in Reply #2 that introduced it.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 15, 2019 10:59:56 GMT -5
People, I bet if you go back to that fateful day, and the next few weeks most of us had very emotional reactions to this attack. It was not just NYC. It was D.C. and potentially the WH, except for some brave American souls that made sure the plane went down before it could do it in a field in Pennsylvania. If you cannot say this was a group of extremist Muslims, then you have the problem. Remember posters here have no problem calling out white males for blowing up buildings or mass shootings, who have no religious affiliations, or far right white religious groups for their misdeeds and label them accordingly. A terorist Muslim who professes his faith to Allah before killing is still a Muslim. So since it was a white Australian who shot up the mosque in New Zealand recently, should New Zealand kick out all white people? Kick out all Australians? Put travel bans on whites/ Australians trying to enter the country? Start dogging the white people who used to be Australians who are currently New Zealand politicians because they might be white first, or Australian first, rather than New Zealand first?
Let's exam what they did - they passed gun control legislation, and not a word in it about the white Australians terrorists. Oh, and some kid whacked a far right politician in the head with an egg.
Crazy, right? It's like they don't know their true enemy is not guns, but white Australian terrorists!
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 15, 2019 11:20:59 GMT -5
... I didn't introduce religion. You did. ... Actually, it was OldCoyote in Reply #2 that introduced it. While the word Muslim applies to anyone who follows the Islamic religion, Anonymous Source did not bring up Allah like Valuebuy did and who attempted to portray all Muslims as terrorists just because the 9/11 hijackers were Islamic terrorists.
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